RBN # 11 - 6/19/05

[friend of monkeys]

wow you guys see this..?

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=43&PN=1

any resident from aruba can you confirm this..?

which one is van rijns?

Lorenzo

hes the guy in sav with the crzy paint on his house??? psycho guy??
do he and joran share the same mother??  his dad big pol guy b4 his suicide??

[Michael22]

wow you guys see this..?

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=43&PN=1

any resident from aruba can you confirm this..?

Here is the entire post:

QUOTE************
According to neighbours of van Rijn's mom, this lady had an affair with v/d Sloot before he was married to his current wife, and the result was Lorenzo van Rijn. Natalee was held at Lorenzo's house (who lives alone), since he has a basement (not many houses here have a basement). Natalee has been moved from house to house belonging to those that are in the plan (don't know what plan that is). They are afraid to kill her what with everybody focusing on the case.

Look, I KNOW. I KNOW. It's sounds to utterly fantastic and ridiculous. Please don't kill me, troll me, flame me. Not for this. I WANT it to be true, that she is still alive.

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

van rijn is either a very popular name in Aruba or this boy sells homemade porn videos over the internet. Do a google search, you'll have to look at the cached pages as the pages are now gone!
UNQUOTE****************

This sounds way too crazy to be true. However, the homemade porn part is interesting... could Geraldo have been RIGHT???

if Geraldo is right then van rijn is the one holding the camera.....

[Kkial]

littletxlady

The police accompanied the Twittys - they were not privy to conversation, or Jug Twitty would not have said in his CNN interview a short while ago that he hadn't "shared" his conversation with Daddy VS with the police.

Regardless, you have to understand if there was a question about Joran Van der Sloot's involvement, Mr Van der Sloot would have expected all of this to come through the "normal" channels.  I'm not defending the VS's, I'm just saying I can see how this could get perceived in the manner it is by Jug Twitty.

RB I completely understand your position. My husband is a German citizen(altho very Americanized..LOL), I have spent time in Holland as well as lived in several European countries. I understand the cultural difference better than you may think.  I have posted this link 5x sure wish someone would read it!

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050618/NEWS01/50618004/1002

Thanks,,,I did read.....  Go Jug, see that they hired a local attorney?

[Terry]

CancunMole, you're welcome - I expected flames and explosions.  Someone else mentioned that they wondered why Daddy VS got irate and it's very simple, really.  Provided he really isn't hiding anything, he probably felt he'd already ignored the rudeness by talking to the Twittys, and under the stress of their daughter missing, the Twittys probably because getting frustrated and, perhaps, slightly accusatory.  That would take the "rudeness" to a whole new level, and Daddy VS probably was irate at his "graciousness" being, as he's perceived it, taken advantage of.

Speculation of the scenario, of course.

Nope!  Don't think you're right!  The Twitty's were very under control.  In fact Beth stayed in the car.  She didn't want to be close to him.  Yep, SLIMEBALL!

But she later said she did talk to him.

[Professor]

The Twitty's were with the authorities. Opening the door to the police at 1 is considered rude?
If my teenager was out of the house and the authorities showed up I'd be opening that door in a second fearing something had happened to my child, that is unless I knew why they were there.

Precisely!

But I take exception to the comment that only Alabamians would do whatever they could to help someone with a missing daughter, even if they showed up in the wee hours of the morning.

I imagine that most Arubians would also. It's just that the Van der Sloots are obnoxious slimeballs.

Ever'body's got 'em.

[Kkial]

littletxlady

The police accompanied the Twittys - they were not privy to conversation, or Jug Twitty would not have said in his CNN interview a short while ago that he hadn't "shared" his conversation with Daddy VS with the police.

Regardless, you have to understand if there was a question about Joran Van der Sloot's involvement, Mr Van der Sloot would have expected all of this to come through the "normal" channels.  I'm not defending the VS's, I'm just saying I can see how this could get perceived in the manner it is by Jug Twitty.

RB I completely understand your position. My husband is a German citizen(altho very Americanized..LOL), I have spent time in Holland as well as lived in several European countries. I understand the cultural difference better than you may think.  I have posted this link 5x sure wish someone would read it!

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050618/NEWS01/50618004/1002

Thanks,,,I did read.....  Go Jug, see that they hired a local attorney?

[Y'alls Psychic Detective]

Whether or not the police where there for an "official interview" is irrelevent.  It was a serious enough matter for the police to accompany Natalee's parents to the house at 1 AM.

[mehill10]

Does anyone know what Jug Twitty does for a living, where we works? My reason for asking this is being that they live in a very upscale, influential section of Birmingham I'm sure that through his work or people he knows they would be able to hire a very good lawyer through acquintances or work.

Personally, I would much prefer a lawyer that I knew or that I knew of to represent by best wishes.

manager at a metal company in birmingham i think  i forget the name

McWane Metals I think!

its not mcwane  i think it is phenix Metal i think

[RB]

Exactly,  It was on here last night.

I did read the link to the Mississippi paper article.

According to the trip planner who was with them, the police were with them at the house that night.  

No doubt about it.

It says police "escorted" them to the house.  The "interrogating" was done by the Twittys, not the police.  The police "accompanied" them.  The police did not do the questioning, otherwise the article would state they did.

[iquitos]

Cancunmole.  Good catch.  We needed that.  

The first story was they went to the lighthouse and had sex with natalee and then dropped at the holiday inn (this from the first AP dispatch) where the security guards entered the scene.  Two security guards were arrested.  When they got out, one, I think Mickey, who was in a cell near Deepak, announced that Deepak told him it was all a lie and that in fact they went to the lighthouse then dropped Joran and Natalee at the Marriott and then went home and then Deepak went back when Joran sent him a text message.  The other guard was near Joran and said that Joran told him they dropped him off at home then took Natalee presumably to the hotel.   So, there are two hearsay versions.  Now Joran's lawyer is being dsiciplined for talking to one of these guys to get information from him on the case.  Did Joran's lawyer put him up to broadcasting Joran's alibi?

Notably (or not), we've never heard a word directly from guard #2.  Whats up with that?

Yeah we did:

Story posted to BNN 6/13/2005 9:02:08 AM
Breaking News by Dan Riehl
Unconfirmed but from regular reader Mimi. Consider the source, even if true. Looks like two against one scenario could be playing out.

According to the attorney ,Jones declared that Joran is convinced that he is being framed. Joran is saying that he did not go to the lighthouse with the group at all. He testified that after he left the club, he caught a ride home with his Surinamese friends, the brothers Kalpoe. At that time Natalee Holloway was in the car. Joran allegedly testified that the Kalpoes dropped him off at his home and drove off with Natalee in car. It was only afterwards (a few days later), around the swimming pool at his house, that the Kalpoes made plans to come out with one version of the events. But now it seems that they are trying to frame Joran. The attorney also told the radio station that his client has been hearing Joran van der Sloot sobbing a lot lately.

[writenow]

Luna, coming to a Dutch house at 1am uninvited (whether business or not) is considered rude.  They're lucky he opened the door.

But there ARE parents who don't make excuses for and cover up their childrens' bad behavior. they're the ones who back up teachers trying to discipline unruly students, not the ones who say their little angel would never do anything wrong. The v.d.sloots appear to fall in this later category. Some parents actually believe in doing the right thing and encouraging their children to tell the truth, even if it means their kid is going to go thru an uncomfortable situation because of their wrong actions.

[Red]

The pool group's story was posted so often because their presence seemed to contradict the boys' story of dropping Nat off near the pool area.

u know they were all too wasted

Be careful! Don't get them all pissed off at you!!!! Don't you know, according to Dash/Alana, they were drinking responsibly! Come on, let's all tell the truth.............[/quote]

I guess its how one defines "responsible"?

[georgiablues]

   

With a beheading and a drive by shooting at a hotel.

   Drive by shooting ?

::edit   THX - found it!   still 12 pages behind    ::

[TTownMike]

littletxlady

The police accompanied the Twittys - they were not privy to conversation, or Jug Twitty would not have said in his CNN interview a short while ago that he hadn't "shared" his conversation with Daddy VS with the police.

Regardless, you have to understand if there was a question about Joran Van der Sloot's involvement, Mr Van der Sloot would have expected all of this to come through the "normal" channels.  I'm not defending the VS's, I'm just saying I can see how this could get perceived in the manner it is by Jug Twitty.

RB I completely understand your position. My husband is a German citizen(altho very Americanized..LOL), I have spent time in Holland as well as lived in several European countries. I understand the cultural difference better than you may think.  I have posted this link 5x sure wish someone would read it!

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050618/NEWS01/50618004/1002

Culture Smulture! They lost their daughter!  Anybody with an ounce of compassion would welcome them in and be concerned and try to help as much as they could.  That is unles they either knew or were afraid that their little baby boy had done something bad!

[absolut]

   

With a beheading and a drive by shooting at a hotel.

   Drive by shooting  

The answer to this from arubagirl is that it was solved and not related.

[dragonfly]

Exactly,  It was on here last night.

I did read the link to the Mississippi paper article.

According to the trip planner who was with them, the police were with them at the house that night.  

No doubt about it.

It says police "escorted" them to the house.  The "interrogating" was done by the Twittys, not the police.  The police "accompanied" them.  The police did not do the questioning, otherwise the article would state they did.

I don't think anyone was stating that the police questioned them but that they were there for the questioning which is evident from the article link by Absolut.  That was the contention that Twitty had not shared the content of the conversation with the police and we were trying to clarify that the police were present during that conversation and not waiting in the car which is what the article states:

While Aruban police were present during the questioning of van der Sloot, which lasted until about 3 a.m., officers left the talking to Holloway's family until things began to get "heated," Bearman said.

[mehill10]

   

With a beheading and a drive by shooting at a hotel.

   Drive by shooting  

The answer to this from arubagirl is that it was solved and not related.

aruba's crime rate went up like 200% this week end

[DAG]

Does anyone know what Jug Twitty does for a living, where we works? My reason for asking this is being that they live in a very upscale, influential section of Birmingham I'm sure that through his work or people he knows they would be able to hire a very good lawyer through acquintances or work.

Personally, I would much prefer a lawyer that I knew or that I knew of to represent by best wishes.

manager at a metal company in birmingham i think  i forget the name

McWane Metals I think!

its not mcwane  i think it is phenix Metal i think

It is Phoenix Metals, he is listed as Manager on their website.  I was also thinking it was McWane because I remember that being the private jet that flew them all to Aruba (The parents that is).

[friend of monkeys]

The pool group's story was posted so often because their presence seemed to contradict the boys' story of dropping Nat off near the pool area.

u know they were all too wasted

Be careful! Don't get them all pissed off at you!!!! Don't you know, according to Dash/Alana, they were drinking responsibly! Come on, let's all tell the truth.............

I guess its how one defines "responsible"?[/quote]

sorry-
not my intention..i just know what fun i had in aruba.....
helf time i didn't know where i was!!! tg for my friends there.

[nancy_drew]

littletxlady

The police accompanied the Twittys - they were not privy to conversation, or Jug Twitty would not have said in his CNN interview a short while ago that he hadn't "shared" his conversation with Daddy VS with the police.

Regardless, you have to understand if there was a question about Joran Van der Sloot's involvement, Mr Van der Sloot would have expected all of this to come through the "normal" channels.  I'm not defending the VS's, I'm just saying I can see how this could get perceived in the manner it is by Jug Twitty.

RB I completely understand your position. My husband is a German citizen(altho very Americanized..LOL), I have spent time in Holland as well as lived in several European countries. I understand the cultural difference better than you may think.  I have posted this link 5x sure wish someone would read it!

http://www.clarionledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050618/NEWS01/50618004/1002

Culture Smulture! :x They lost their daughter!  Anybody with an ounce of compassion would welcome them in and be concerned and try to help as much as they could.  That is unles they either knew or were afraid that their little baby boy had done something bad![/quot

I think that's an excellent point. Even if the Dutch have a distant/dry attitute.  When a child is missing ALL  parents unless they are knuckleheads are compassionate and caring.

I only have had one parent in many years ever give me a hard time for a late night phone call. She was/is a self-possessed mother who let the kid drop out of high school (where he was an A student) and take off to learn to be a tatoo artist!  Sheesh