RBN # 11 - 6/19/05

[absolut]

   

With a beheading and a drive by shooting at a hotel.

   Drive by shooting  

The answer to this from arubagirl is that it was solved and not related.

aruba's crime rate went up like 200% this week end

Probably more, what don't we know yet or ever.

[TTownMike]

iquitos said, "In any case, "Jug" has dropped his southern charm today and showed he is pissed. I attribute it to culture shock. He may not be used to prolonged stays foreign."

And maybe just a little to do with his stepdaughter missing and feared dead??? And 3 weeks of waiting and watching after observing that things Pop VDS told him the first night turned out to have occurred differently???????

 And it seems to me that by now we now know the kid has lied!

[batmanCJ]

[
Lorenzo Van Rijn.  He's the one who is crazy.  His father committed suicide by hanging 3 years ago.  Speculation that he is actually the illigitemate son of Paulas Van Der Sloot.[/quote]

Still trying to catch up . . . where is this speculation coming from that Lorenzo might be PVDS's son?

[RB]

Culture Smulture!  They lost their daughter! Anybody with an ounce of compassion would welcome them in and be concerned and try to help as much as they could. That is unles they either knew or were afraid that their little baby boy had done something bad!

I've been around the world enough to know not every European (and make no mistake about it - the VS's do appear to be the epitome of a typical Dutch attitude, from what I've experienced) thinks nor acts the same way we Americans do.  That does NOT mean I agree with them, I just recognize and accept the realities of things I cannot change

[writenow]

The Twitty's were with the authorities. Opening the door to the police at 1 is considered rude?
If my teenager was out of the house and the authorities showed up I'd be opening that door in a second fearing something had happened to my child, that is unless I knew why they were there.

Please point me to a link that specifically states they went with authorities.

I thought they went without authorities.  I read the authorities didn't get involved until later.  Right?

No. They went that night, but then seemed to blow off the parents for a few days until media picked up on it and US senator called Aruban PM asking FBI be allowed to assist.

[batmanCJ]

Disregard previous post about speculation on Lorenzo . . . found the answer

[absolut]

Well kid missing or not, I live out in the sticks and I would not go knock on a door at 1am without that police escort. Nothing like a deer rifle meeting you at the door.

[Juvenal]

   

With a beheading and a drive by shooting at a hotel.

   Drive by shooting  

The answer to this from arubagirl is that it was solved and not related.

Now that the attention's been turned on, we've heard about an awful lot of unrelated crimes on this little island with no crime at all.

[TTownMike]

wow you guys see this..?

An Aruban blogger from another site wrote that some of Natalee's belongings were found at Van Rijn's house...

http://www.nataleeholloway.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=43&PN=1

any resident from aruba can you confirm this..?

which one is van rijns?

Lorenzo

I have such a hard time believing this!!  IMO this is Bull.  If that were the case this Lorenzo guy would be in jail!!! They bring people in and hold them for much less.   Plus, the added info that Lorenzo is the child of Joran's dad.  Sure, it's possible...but, highly unlikely.

I think there are folks spinning these yarns for attention.

But then again perhaps he's nowhere to be found!  Maybe driving around in Columbia somewhere, ya think?

[mehill10]

Does anyone know what Jug Twitty does for a living, where we works? My reason for asking this is being that they live in a very upscale, influential section of Birmingham I'm sure that through his work or people he knows they would be able to hire a very good lawyer through acquintances or work.

Personally, I would much prefer a lawyer that I knew or that I knew of to represent by best wishes.

manager at a metal company in birmingham i think  i forget the name

McWane Metals I think!

its not mcwane  i think it is phenix Metal i think

It is Phoenix Metals, he is listed as Manager on their website.  I was also thinking it was McWane because I remember that being the private jet that flew them all to Aruba (The parents that is).

i drive the the place that is out side of tarrent city all the time  i thought it was just their warehouse

[friend of monkeys]

not officially anything

[arrabba]

Just found this at websleuths.com:

Originally Posted by nanandjim
A poster named samthebam at Riehl's blog is stating that she is from Mountain Brook and has some interesting information. She states that the father VDS was seen at at McDonald's at 3 a.m. Someone stated that McDonald's closes at 1 a.m. He could have been there discarding something in a dumpster. samthebam says that because his behavior is very suspicious, he has not been allowed to see his son. Following is another post of hers:
...I am very confident that the dad was out at 3 a.m. and that the authorities are extremely suspicious.

Hint: the person who told me this has the last name of Twitty

[luna]

RB...okay, I'm just going to make one more comment on this:

RB wrote:
Luna, coming to a Dutch house at 1am uninvited (whether business or not) is considered rude. They're lucky he opened the door.
_____________

So do you still stand by this statement?  It's not like they stopped by for tea.

The police honked their car horn repeatedly every few minutes til Pop VDS came out.  It was apparent that this was a serious matter.  So are the Twitty's still rude?  And are they lucky Pop opened the door?

[iquitos]

"Jug" is a Manager at Phoenix Metals and is getting support from McWane Company.  Look them up.  They are big in the pipe manufacturing business.  Headquartered in Birmingham.  They provided the jet for the chop chop arrival of the family to Aruba and, I suspect, with local support of the heavy kind at least initially.  A senior guy at McWane has a daughter at mountain brook high.  "Jug" also obviously knows his way around.    

Does anyone know what Jug Twitty does for a living, where we works? My reason for asking this is being that they live in a very upscale, influential section of Birmingham I'm sure that through his work or people he knows they would be able to hire a very good lawyer through acquintances or work.

Personally, I would much prefer a lawyer that I knew or that I knew of to represent by best wishes.

yeah-
and if i were joran , that guy would be my dad

[TTownMike]

The Twitty's were with the authorities. Opening the door to the police at 1 is considered rude?
If my teenager was out of the house and the authorities showed up I'd be opening that door in a second fearing something had happened to my child, that is unless I knew why they were there.

Precisely!

But I take exception to the comment that only Alabamians would do whatever they could to help someone with a missing daughter, even if they showed up in the wee hours of the morning.

I imagine that most Arubians would also. It's just that the Van der Sloots are obnoxious slimeballs.

Ever'body's got 'em.

Go prof!

[goon squad]

Even if the police were not yet ready to declare the opening of an official investigation, it would have been prudent to send officers along with a group that would certainly be zealous in its pursuit of answers.

Re: the "rudeness" of approaching the VDS home at 12:30 AM... Does anybody doubt that PVDS, by this time, was apprised of the situation with NH, and that his son was certainly going to be a target of anybody looking for answers?  He had to be prepared for something like that.

As for "cultural differences"... Mr. Twitty declared his assessment of PVDS after three weeks on the island, during which time he likely met other residents of Dutch descent to which he could make a decent comparison.

[writenow]

By the way, "Jug" has  brother "Jar".  Are these indicative of parents in the white lightning business?

[/quote]

Iquitos,

You SOOOOO don't understand southerners. They ALL have nicknames. And, honey, these are more southern aristocracy than moonshiners. Not everyone in the south is a redneck.

Good grief.

[TTownMike]

Whether or not the police where there for an "official interview" is irrelevent.  It was a serious enough matter for the police to accompany Natalee's parents to the house at 1 AM.

Though it was "not a police matter", the cops went because they didn't want Jug to whup his ass!

[TTownMike]

Does anyone know what Jug Twitty does for a living, where we works? My reason for asking this is being that they live in a very upscale, influential section of Birmingham I'm sure that through his work or people he knows they would be able to hire a very good lawyer through acquintances or work.

Personally, I would much prefer a lawyer that I knew or that I knew of to represent by best wishes.

manager at a metal company in birmingham i think  i forget the name

McWane Metals I think!

its not mcwane  i think it is phenix Metal i think

OK, I was trying to help but i think you are right.  McWane loaned the plane I fergot!

[friend of monkeys]

By the way, "Jug" has  brother "Jar".  Are these indicative of parents in the white lightning business?

Iquitos,

You SOOOOO don't understand southerners. They ALL have nicknames. And, honey, these are more southern aristocracy than moonshiners. Not everyone in the south is a redneck.

Good grief.[/quote]

dag
 has gangsta rap on now in english

no other news i guess