RBN # 11 - 6/19/05

[bendex]

Hi Writenow,

I was not trying promoting vows of silence Just trying to find an explanation why everybody appears to be covering each other backs in this case I think it has a strong cultural bias.

I understand your feeling. It has to do with our protestant background, and the dissapearance, betrayel and murder of tens and thousands innocent people in the second world war in our country.

I know your country (and possibly even your own family) did suffer a heavy loss in WW2 (as we did though it wasn't on our homeland) and I think we're all very sorry for that. If what you say is true, that the betrayal of friends to the Nazis has affected the nation so much that they feel the safest recourse 60 years later is silence in any situation, I understand. But I think it's just very sad. Though certainly it's an eye-opener for many in this country. There are criminals behind bars in our country now -- taken off the streets -- because their own family members turned them in -- feeling they had more of a moral responsibility to protect innocent people than protect their criminal relatives and friends.

Definitely a cultural difference.

[Lausa]

Is the shirt you were speaking about is the one Mrs. van der Shoot wore to the party where you could see her white bra showing through?  To be fair, it may not have looked like that at all if you saw her in person...something the camera does. picks up the white...and all you see is the bra.  Once upon a time, I learned this lesson the hard way and was mortified.  Only "nude" bras from then on.

[ottwolves]

This is awful disturbing to me.  This is taken from a personal ad made by Jorans father.  (originally posted by "lilorphan" I believe")

"As money is involved, I will mention it openly ... the right, intelligent, attractive female, not older than 26 years of age and single, will be paid B 7.500 per month, increasing by B 2.500 per month until B 15.000 is reached after 4 month. That will be her money and she will be free to spend it the way she wants. Our normal living expenses together will be taken care of by me."

http://www.khonkaen.com/english/classifieds/view_print.asp?id=50066311085100009

NO!!  It is NOT Joran's father!

That is really disturbing to me as well....is that Joran's father?

Thats the dirty old Dutchman in Thailand who is friends with many of urine's friends and aquaintances!

This guy's name is Marten van den Berg and he appears to be one strange cat...

http://www.meetingthaipeople.com/about.html

Strange is a nice word.  Read his reply to this girls post.  I wish I could book a ticket to Thailand right about now.

http://www.meetingthaipeople.com/mtp/viewtopic.php?t=262

[TG]

This was NOT written by Jorans father, sorry, :::Edit: Sorry, I won't let you call yourself an idiot.. not on my watch. Catriana:::   [/size]

"As money is involved, I will mention it openly ... the right, intelligent, attractive female, not older than 26 years of age and single, will be paid B 7.500 per month, increasing by B 2.500 per month until B 15.000 is reached after 4 month. That will be her money and she will be free to spend it the way she wants. Our normal living expenses together will be taken care of by me."

http://www.khonkaen.com/english/classifieds/view_print.asp?id=50066311085100009

[Shellbell]

I wasnt aware nats family got an attorney.  That is smart.

[hope]

Well- needless to say that dumb B(*)(* on Fox just cut off the retired police officer-- get her the hell out of there

[Another K in Texas]

Well he was about to blame the parents of Natalee so I don't blame here.

[Ben]

Well- needless to say that dumb B(*)(* on Fox just cut off the retired police officer-- get her the hell out of there

yeah...two nights in a row!!!  she and dee fine should run off together!

She won't let him talk about Natalee's family...

And why does he think they (NH's family) should be polygraphed?

[littletxlady]

Are they still saying that they are following a car?  Or that she's being moved from one place on the Island to another?

NO, I'm just saying I think it is a plausable scenario, actually I hope it is true. Then Natalee will be alive.

[Shellbell]

She is playing old interviews.

[absolut]

Elio really wants her parents to take a polygraph.

[KerinTX]

Funny...FOX brings people on to talk about the case and yet they cut them off? Seems like they never cut off the experts in the US who are only making "educated guesses" but then they have Aruban Spokespeople/LE come on and give them the BOOT right in the middle of them speaking!

[Shellbell]

Elio really wants her parents to take a polygraph.

WTF?  Why that is stupid.

[TTownMike]

Is the shirt you were speaking about is the one Mrs. van der Shoot wore to the party where you could see her white bra showing through?  To be fair, it may not have looked like that at all if you saw her in person...something the camera does. picks up the white...and all you see is the bra.  Once upon a time, I learned this lesson the hard way and was mortified.  Only "nude" bras from then on.

Yeah, right! Yuk,  yuk

[absolut]

Elio really wants her parents to take a polygraph.

WTF?  Why that is stupid.

It would happen here in the states. Even if it happened on a trip.

[Another K in Texas]

I think that is why they cut them off.  It just makes no sense.

[air23ac]

the retired police officer wanted to point the finger at natalee....he obviously had an agenda with what he wanted to say....he refused to talk about the van der sloot's

[mountainmac]

Strange is a nice word.  Read his reply to this girls post.  I wish I could book a ticket to Thailand right about now.

http://www.meetingthaipeople.com/mtp/viewtopic.php?t=262[/quote]

This guy is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Call me crazy but if an senior citizen carrying a handbag send me this message, I'd be less than friendly to him. YUCK...all I think about is Adam Sandler saying "Old, wrinkled, balls."

[hope]

I think that is why they cut them off.  It just makes no sense.

And he could be wanting people to start speculating about NH and family to try and  take the heat off of Aruba- possibly?

[redquartz]

Have they looked in the Bird  Sanctuary?