RBN # 12 - 6/19 - 6/20/05

[GreatOwl]

that is what i am doing.  is it my mac?

I doubt it is the Mac.  I am using one.  Check to see if the HTML is OFF and the BBCode is ON.

which should be on?  i am disable bbc[/quote]

The BBC should be on.

[luna]

GreatOwl....before I saw your name I was trying to figure out your signature line, and, well, let's just say I saw something else!

[RPG]

Even though I think that the kidnap story just might be true....If money was what was keeping them from getting Natalee...all they would have to do is ask the public to help...wait..they are...oh my

donations to banks to help family...hmmmmm

I just can't believe money is object.

[friend of monkeys]

Joran and his father were known to frequent bars and casinos until the wee hours of the morning.  Who among us would allow our teenagers to go out without a curfew no later than midnight?  Nothing good happens in the early morning hours.  IMO, the lack of rules assigned to Joran has contributed to this crime.

ya think???it is probably genetic

[WoodGuy]

I think you're right...if this works now.

[WoodGuy]

nope..didn't work. I'll go back to cut and paste.

[klaasend]

GreatOwl....before I saw your name I was trying to figure out your signature line, and, well, let's just say I saw something else!

     

[waitingtoknow]

that is what i am doing.  is it my mac?

I doubt it is the Mac.  I am using one.  Check to see if the HTML is OFF and the BBCode is ON.

which should be on?  i am disable bbc

The BBC should be on.[/quote]seeing if this works

[iquitos]

that is what i am doing.  is it my mac?

I doubt it is the Mac.  I am using one.  Check to see if the HTML is OFF and the BBCode is ON.

which should be on?  i am disable bbc[/quote]

[mbhs05]

Joran and his father were known to frequent bars and casinos until the wee hours of the morning.  Who among us would allow our teenagers to go out without a curfew no later than midnight?  Nothing good happens in the early morning hours.  IMO, the lack of rules assigned to Joran has contributed to this crime.

Hey I'm allowed out after 12...and believe you me my parents are the "tight rein" type. Ask Dash. My mom is nuts about that. Granted I have to have a good reason to be out later...like prom or something, but still. These things aren't the judge of a good parent. I think what's more telling is that his dad lets him gamble and drink underage, and that his parents don't know where he is. I mean when I stay out after 12, I'd better damn sure be telling my parents my every move, or my keys are gone in a heartbeat.

[Geraldosgirlfriend]

GreatOwl....before I saw your name I was trying to figure out your signature line, and, well, let's just say I saw something else!

     

Too funny!

[KerinTX]

Joran and his father were known to frequent bars and casinos until the wee hours of the morning.  Who among us would allow our teenagers to go out without a curfew no later than midnight?  Nothing good happens in the early morning hours.  IMO, the lack of rules assigned to Joran has contributed to this crime.

ya think???it is probably genetic

FOM....LMAO
( I love it when the Monkey gets going )

[CaliGirl]

Joran and his father were known to frequent bars and casinos until the wee hours of the morning.  Who among us would allow our teenagers to go out without a curfew no later than midnight?  Nothing good happens in the early morning hours.  IMO, the lack of rules assigned to Joran has contributed to this crime.

::raising hand::

Euro culture is very different than american culture. In fact, just a point to make, in Germany, they legally drink when they are 16 and drive when they are 18. Not sure if it is still the same but that was how it was when I was 16. The are a little more open with things in their culture, so IMHO I don't find it odd or unusual being they are from The Netherlands but that doesn't make someone a killer or bad person because they are able to stay out late at night.

[writenow]

This Site has what the FBI investigates:  http://www.fbi.gov/hq.htm

I'd appreciate it if someone coulld tell me what on this list applies to this case because I can't figure it out.

FBI is a federal agency.
Kidnapping is a FEDERAL not a local or state crime.
ALL kidnappings of Americans are handled by the FBI whether they are local, cross state lines or cross country lines. (and foreigners if it happens within the US)

However, in a foreign country, the FBI has to be invited to participate in the search/negotiations.

[reese]

********THEORY**********

HOLY CRAP!!!

It just hit me..

Natalee has been kidnapped and is being ransomed.  The family knows, the Aruban authorities know, the FBI knows, but whover did it said "NO PRESS..or the girl dies."   Look at everything that fits.

1. Jug's comment about negotiations.
2. The fruitless searches (dog and pony show) and misinformation (diversions).
3. The lack of information (being blamed on the "Dutch system")
4. Beth's apparent 'belief' (knowledge) that Nat is alive.
5. The US government official's comment about sending FBI and something disturbing and the family knows.
6. Lack of body
7. 3 suspects 'silence'
8. Diario editors recent comments falling straight off the radar almost immediately (snuffed out).
9. Family's 'frustration' at not being kept informed (easy way to shift media pressure off the family)
10. The throat slashing 'message' being sent.
11.
12.
13.

What else am I leaving off?

It ALL fits.  No sex trafficking. No columbian drug cartel.  Just a simple case of kidnapping for ransom with the threat of death if 'real story' gets to the press.

I thought about that too. Good points.

Only one problem with that theory. Kidnappers normally try to get in contact with the FAMILY.

Oh, well. All the piece of the puzzle fit together, except for the most important piece.

I have just been sitting here reading all along not saying much, but as far as this is concerned I wonder is this entire thing has nothing to do with the familys money but the American DEA agents and the recent bust they made. Maybe they are holding an american girl to get something from them or someone?

[KerinTX]

Joran and his father were known to frequent bars and casinos until the wee hours of the morning.  Who among us would allow our teenagers to go out without a curfew no later than midnight?  Nothing good happens in the early morning hours.  IMO, the lack of rules assigned to Joran has contributed to this crime.

Hey I'm allowed out after 12...and believe you me my parents are the "tight rein" type. Ask Dash. My mom is nuts about that. Granted I have to have a good reason to be out later...like prom or something, but still. These things aren't the judge of a good parent. I think what's more telling is that his dad lets him gamble and drink underage, and that his parents don't know where he is. I mean when I stay out after 12, I'd better damn sure be telling my parents my every move, or my keys are gone in a heartbeat.

So MBHS...since it is slow and you are talking teen stuff...let me ask a question. When I have teens spend the night here, I collect all their car keys until the morning. What would you think about this? (since your mom and I seem to be the same "type")  

[iquitos]

folks- it has been a long day. i need to get some rest.  it has been good.  sleep tite and don't come up with any more half baked theories while i am gone.  just more arrests and some clarity here.

[tuberide]

Joran and his father were known to frequent bars and casinos until the wee hours of the morning.  Who among us would allow our teenagers to go out without a curfew no later than midnight?  Nothing good happens in the early morning hours.  IMO, the lack of rules assigned to Joran has contributed to this crime.

Hey I'm allowed out after 12...and believe you me my parents are the "tight rein" type. Ask Dash. My mom is nuts about that. Granted I have to have a good reason to be out later...like prom or something, but still. These things aren't the judge of a good parent. I think what's more telling is that his dad lets him gamble and drink underage, and that his parents don't know where he is. I mean when I stay out after 12, I'd better damn sure be telling my parents my every move, or my keys are gone in a heartbeat.

So MBHS...since it is slow and you are talking teen stuff...let me ask a question. When I have teens spend the night here, I collect all their car keys until the morning. What would you think about this? (since your mom and I seem to be the same "type")  

extra set of keys??? most of us have them....um, nice try though

[KerinTX]

Night Iquitos

[waitingtoknow]

This Site has what the FBI investigates:  http://www.fbi.gov/hq.htm

I'd appreciate it if someone coulld tell me what on this list applies to this case because I can't figure it out.

FBI is a federal agency.
Kidnapping is a FEDERAL not a local or state crime.
ALL kidnappings of Americans are handled by the FBI whether they are local, cross state lines or cross country lines. (and foreigners if it happens within the US)

However, in a foreign country, the FBI has to be invited to participate in the search/negotiations.

are you saying that the FBI will prosecute?  (really wanted to do the quote thing again)