RBN # 12 - 6/19 - 6/20/05

[blfit]

Checking out the FOX NEWS this morning.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,159910,00.html#poll

Look at the poll

In it, of the 30,000 aprox. people who voted on the question, "Who do you hold most accountable for Natalee Holloway's disappearance?", 61 percent answered either Natalie or the chaperones.

I think alot of people just "assume" and haven't read the facts and certainly haven't done all of the research that everyone has done on this site.

[wbvious]

wondering if anyone knows...

is the Sabana that is referred to (where the fellow was recently found murdered & nearly decapitated),  is that Sabana Basora down near Saveneta or is it Sabana Liber up next to Montana (where the van der Sloots live)...?

[Faith]

wondering if anyone knows...

is the Sabana that is referred to (where the fellow was recently found murdered & nearly decapitated),  is that Sabana Basora down near Saveneta or is it Sabana Liber up next to Montana (where the van der Sloots live)...?

I'm sorry I don't know and don't remember this being discussed.
Just curious....Where did you find this info?

[Rob]

Does anyone knoe anymore about VanRijn and Paul Brough? Are they possibly connected? I do not generally like Geraldo at all and think he is a complete ass. But he disappeared very quickly after breaking his story and left Aruba. He was "away on assignment" last night. In researching VanRijn and Paul Brough I found some disturbing things. There are people of both names living in Aruba running a sex trade. They sell videos and sex toys via the internet (the site is now closed) and at a shop on the island. Per the cached pages some tapes are homemade, the descriptions as follows...
sister gives handjob
teen gangbang on the beach
fistf^&*&* under the stars     by Island Hopper on RiehlWorld

Lorenzo Van Rijn is reportedly the illegitimate son of one Paul Van Der Sloot. Van Rijn is the son of a Volkswagen dealer that comitted suicide a few years ago. (Father hanged himself) Has a "crazy spray painted" house in Saveneta on main Savaneta road. Some of Natalee's belongings were reportedly found inside Van Rijn's house. Also has a gigantic house at Jaraweg in the Jara neighborhood.

whoa! whats this about "belongings being found"?

[Herkimer]

wondering if anyone knows...

is the Sabana that is referred to (where the fellow was recently found murdered & nearly decapitated),  is that Sabana Basora down near Saveneta or is it Sabana Liber up next to Montana (where the van der Sloots live)...?

Santa Basora, I believe..

From what I understand, he was given a 'Columbian Necktie'...

[Shellbell]

Good morning all!!!!  Any news?  Read the posts from last night and I see a lot of people are starting to want to question Nats family.  That is crazy.

[festa]

[. Some of Natalee's belongings were reportedly found inside Van Rijn's house. Also has a gigantic house at Jaraweg in the Jara neighborhood.[/quote]

whoa! whats this about "belongings being found"?[/quote]

Found this on site listed below :

The other guy I mentioned before, son of the Volkswagen Dealer owner, his last name is Van Rijn. This guy's father (the father commited suicide a few years ago) left him a house in the town called Savaneta. I've also heard that this guy owns a speed boat (cigarette). Apparently they found some belongings of Natalee at Van Rijn's house. Guys, these are just rumors, I can't confirm them yet.

17 June 2005 at 02:46 PM
 
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:5zgtZXJ7AlcJ:hcgtv.com/item/1124+Van+Rijn+natalee&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[huntsy]

Morning All.
That is really something if they did find Natalees things inside his house. I am suprised the media has not been on it. I wonder if they checked for DNA while they were in there.

[Rob]

seeing as how natalee was packed to leave. that leave very little belongings that actually could have been discovered. would have to be her clothing

[huntsy]

seeing as how natalee was packed to leave. that leave very little belongings that actually could have been discovered. would have to be her clothing

Which is scary in its self.

[air23ac]

i can't help that the slow pace of this case is intentional............aruba is very afraid that thise case will hurt tourism which is their entire economy.

as morbid as it sounds, maybe they feel a missing persons case is better than horrid truths they are uncovering. i am directing this at the decision makers and government........not the everyday person.

[Rob]

seeing as how natalee was packed to leave. that leave very little belongings that actually could have been discovered. would have to be her clothing

Which is scary in its self.

i dont want to believe that.....

[Rob]

aruba has already damaged itself with the slow pace and lack of info. that said. im leaving on sat for 11 days there...

[Catriana]

According to Paul Harvey this morning...

Tourism: Aruba gets more then a million visitors a year, since Natalee's disappearance, Tourism has INCREASED.

Not sure that Aruba would be holding up the investigation because of a fear of decline of tourism.

[air23ac]

i am not saying they are sitting there basing their investigation on tourism directly......but i think they are definitely trying to be strategic/exercise damage control as they go about this case.

[air23ac]

rob, i was there in september......it was and still is the nicest place i have ever seen.......i would even go back and probably will.............

i just would be a little more concerned about my safety than i was first time around.

[Rob]

something had changed.. headless bodies, missing teenagers, supposed drug cartels. this will be my 9 trip to aruba and i guess i ll see for myself

[momto5]

Hey everyone,
is there anything new going on? I tried to catch up last night. So far I caught where they questioned jorans father more on sunday? I saw Fox last night until around 10-10:30. I also saw where there might be a private search team going to look from TX?I turned it off a lil after a man on tv said something about polygraphing natalees family. Uhmmm ok? Just everything seems so strange to me at this point. To me theres no way her family was involved so unless he was insinuating home issues and she ran away then what was that about? I personally cant see her as a runaway, its been too long, and she would have atleast gone to get some fresh air and been spotted if that were the case.
As for the aruban govt. I think that some people are being too hard on them myself. We are used to things going a certain way here in the states. Yes maybe it seems at times our govt moves more quickly,but there are times they are enept as well. Anyone remember jon benet or other cold cases? I try to remind myself when I get frustrated, Aruba isnt the USA. They have diff laws, and standards they practice, and unless we are from there we probably wont ever understand their laws. Heck sometimes it is hard to understand our own laws here.
Ok that was just my opinion and 2 cents for whatever its worth. Hope I didnt offend anyone or anything or misinterpret any information. I am still recovering from the fathers day horrah we had. Hope everyone else had a fine fathers day. I only wish Natalee would have been found safe and returned yesterday.

[sandy]

add - missing truck driver and drive by shootings

[Rob]

i guess thee one thing that really concerns me, other than natalee missing, is that prime minister ubdeur*sp and bikker are getting into a political battle, and thats not good for natalee...theres a time for politics.. now s not it