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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2015, 12:07:56 PM »

Nut, thanks for the new cage.

I received emails from a couple of "guests" this morning inquiring how to locate past Kyron Horman threads.  I provided the links but then thought that there may be others having difficulty navigating.

Its been a while ....

I hope you are having a good summer.  I am ... sorta.  It's way too hot.

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Kyron Horman Threads

Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum > Missing Persons - High Profile > Missing Persons High Profile

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=69.0

Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #45
January 1, 2014 - August 8, 2015
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12958.0


Scared Monkeys Discussion Forum > Missing Persons - High Profile > Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?board=42.0

Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #39
December 24, 2010 - January 2, 2010
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9159.0

Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #40
January 2, 2011 - January 18, 2011
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9196.0

Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #41
January 18, 2011 - February 8, 2011
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9222.0
   
Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland OR #42
February 8, 2011 - May 23, 2011
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9317.0

Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #43
May 23, 2011 - April 11, 2012
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9426.0

Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #44
April 11, 2012 - January 1, 2014
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=9941.0
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« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2015, 07:34:56 PM »

JAMES MOULTON

The civil suit filed against Terri Horman by Desiree Young was delayed by the District Attorney and Sheriff in November 2012 and ultimately dropped in 2013.  Both actions cited the compromising of the Kyron Horman investigation.

If the civil suit had gone forward ... could it be that James Moulton's August 2012 deposition/ testimony would have revealed the truth encompassing the disputed dynamics behind the move to his grandparents' Roseburg home in February/March 2010?  Could it be that James' testimony would have revealed so much more?

BOTTOM LINE!   Why was James' testimony so important in the furtherance of the $10,000,000 lawsuit?

Could it be that James Moulton's August 2012 deposition was submitted to investigators as Kyron Horman case evidence?  Could it be that James will be a Prosecution witness at an eventual trial?
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2015, 09:28:16 AM »

JAMES MOULTON (Continued)

2010




1.  The Family Dynamics

According to Kaine

Terri Moulton Horman: Kyron Horman's stepmother is a profile in contradictions
August 19, 2010


<snipped.

In February, Terri sent James to Roseburg to live with his maternal grandparents.

"I was on a business trip when she made that decision," Kaine said. "She called me on my first day (in California) and said they had gotten into a fight. She couldn't handle it anymore. She was going to call his dad to talk about other options."

Kaine said he didn't want James to move out, but it wasn't his decision. ....

James said he misses his little sister — and would like to see Kaine as well.

"He was like a dad to me," James said. "I lived with him for eight years."

Kaine hopes to talk to James again soon.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_horman.html


According to James' Father

Irreconcilable
The Kyron Horman case: An interview with Terri Moulton Horman’s first ex-husband
June 30th, 2010


<snipped>

James was a student at Lincoln High School in Portland, where he was on the swim team and played trumpet in the school band. Tarver says Terri Moulton Horman sent the boy to Roseburg in March this year because his grades were slipping and he was acting out at home.

“He and Kaine on occasion butted heads, because James is hard-headed,” Tarver says.

<snipped>

http://wweek.com/editorial/3634/14214/


She Said - He Said

Terri Horman e-mail provides insight into family tensions
August 22, 2010


<snipped>

One version - in Horman’s own words - was recently forwarded to KATU News.

“I had my son go to live with my parents so he would be happy - went from D’s to straight A’s within one month of being away from Kaine,” she wrote in an April 6 e-mail. ....

But Kaine Horman told The Oregonian their relationship was typical and that Terri and her son were the ones who didn’t get along. Kaine said he was often the mitigator between the two of them.

But that’s not what Terri’s friend from 24-Hour Fitness, who testified before the grand jury Monday, said they heard. In the weeks before Kyron disappeared, that person said Terri was upset, telling the friend her husband forced her son to move out.

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100511654.html


2012

2.  The Civil Lawsuit - Delay Denied - A Temporary Victory



Desiree Young's lawyer argues against any delay in civil suit against Terri Horman
August 02, 2012


There is no reason to delay Desiree Young's civil lawsuit against Terri Horman, Young's lawyer argues in a 39-page motion filed in Multnomah County Circuit Court on Thursday.
"The big picture is this: Kyron Horman has been missing for 26 months,'' attorney Elden Rosenthal wrote. "Despite a monumental investigative effort by the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office, Terri Horman has not been indicted. The trail is getting cold.''

Any further delay in the civil proceedings would be an injustice to Young, who is Kyron's mother, and could result in records and witnesses disappearing, as well as memories fading, Rosenthal argued.

Rosenthal has advised the court that Terri Horman's son, James Moulton, is set to begin military service in late August, and any delay in the proceedings could result in a "permanent loss'' of his testimony.''

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/08/desiree_youngs_lawyer_argues_a.html


Judge allows lawsuit against Terri Horman to move forward
August 15, 2012


<snipped>

Outside the courtroom, Young became emotional while talking about the ruling.

"I'm looking forward to moving forward," said Young. "I'm excited about this."

Kyron's father, Kaine Horman, was not involved in filing the lawsuit, but in front of the Wall of Hope dedicated to his son, Kaine Horman said he sees this decision as a victory.

"It sounds like the ruling was favorable today," said Kaine Horman. "It sounds like we're going to have a path forward on this particular case, and I think it's a great thing. We need all the information we can get to bring Kyron home, find where he is and get this done."

The case will move forward on Thursday with the deposition of Terri Horman's teenage son James Moulton.

Young's lawyer tells FOX 12 it will take place in Roseburg at a secret location.

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/story/19282839/judge-allows-lawsuit-against-terri-horman-to-move-forward?clienttype=printable


Terri Horman deposition, document production is delayed in Desiree Young's civil suit, judge rules
August 21, 2012


<snipped>

The judge agreed that the lengthy passage of time without an indictment swayed his ruling to allow Young's civil case to proceed.

"This court concludes that the passage of time without indictment is very significant in this particular case and provides a substantial counterweight against the overlapping of allegations,'' Kantor wrote in his ruling.

Kantor's ruling allowed Rosenthal to take a deposition of Horman's biological son, James Moulton, on Thursday, before his planned military service late this month.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/08/terri_horman_deposition_docume.html


3.  The Civil Lawsuit - Delay Granted - A Setback

Multnomah County sheriff cites new 'investigative avenues' in case of missing Kyron Horman
November 27, 2012


New investigative leads in the disappearance of Kyron Horman have spurred prosecutors and the Multnomah County sheriff to seek a delay in the  civil lawsuit Kyron's mother filed against Kyron's stepmother Terri Horman.

A Multnomah County judge this week granted motions by District Attorney Michael Schrunk and Sheriff Dan Staton to delay Desiree Young's civil lawsuit against Terri Horman for nine months. ....

Ironically, Terri Horman's lawyers were unsuccessful this summer when they urged the court to delay the civil proceeding. Terri Horman's lawyers had argued that her constitutional rights would be impaired with a parallel criminal investigation proceeding alongside the civil litigation.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/11/multnomah_county_sheriff_cites.html


Judge approves motion to put civil case against Terri Horman on hold
Posted: Nov 27, 2012


The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office confirmed to Fox 12 they have new leads in the disappearance of Kyron Horman.

The revelation comes at the same time it was ruled a lawsuit filed by Kyron Horman's mother against Terri Horman will be put on hold until Aug. 1, 2013. ....

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office said Tuesday the new developments in their investigation stem at least in part from details gathered in the early days of the investigation.

Investigators believe the new leads and further development of old leads could present progress in the case. Kyron has been missing since June 4, 2010.

Kantor ordered the motion to abate the civil case be sealed. Court documents show that decision was "for the reason that a related criminal investigation is still being conducted."

"Premature disclosure of the information contained in these documents could jeopardize that ongoing investigation," said the documents, submitted by Multnomah County District Attorney Michael Schrunk.

They went on to say sealing them will "preserve the integrity of the investigation and will promote the safety of the witnesses involved."

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/story/20200850/deputies-confirm-new-developments-in-kyron-horman-case

http://ftpcontent.worldnow.com/kptv/KPTV/story_pdfs/motion%20to%20abate.pdf


Multnomah County judge briefly explains why he delayed Desiree Young's civil suit
November 28, 2012


Multnomah County Circuit Judge Henry Kantor explained in a court order signed Wednesday that he was convinced that allowing the civil lawsuit that Kyron Horman's mother filed against the boy's stepmother to proceed "could impact an ongoing criminal investigation.''

In a one-paragraph order signed Wednesday, Kantor said he delayed the civil lawsuit until Aug. 1, unless there's an appropriate motion to vacate it.

Court records show the Multnomah County District Attorney Michael Schrunk and Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton had requested the postponement.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/11/multnomah_county_judge_briefly.html

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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2015, 12:39:42 PM »

JAMES MOULTON (Continued)

2013

4.  The Dropped Civil Lawsuit




Desiree Young drops suit against Terri Horman
July 30, 2013


The mother of missing Kyron Horman said Tuesday morning that she has dropped a civil suit asking the boy’s stepmother, Terri Horman, to reveal what she knows about his disappearance.

At a news conference on the steps of the Multnomah County Justice Center, an emotional Desiree Young said that going forward with the lawsuit would interfere with the criminal investigation, something she was not willing to do. ....

Desiree Young filed the $10 million lawsuit in June 2012. That December, Multnomah County judge Henry Kantor delayed the suit on the grounds that it could also impact the criminal investigation.

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron,” Young said Tuesday. “For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case."
....

Young’s attorney Elden Rosenthal told reporters that the DA’s office did not pressure her to drop the lawsuit, but did say that “they do not wish” to release the files.

“There is a pending divorce as you are aware between Kaine and Terri Horman, they’re not willing to release the files in that case either,” Rosenthal said.

“Judge Kantor has instructed us, at the early stages, when we were working on this last year, not to make any requests for documents from Mrs. Horman because of her Fifth Amendment rights.” ....

“We recently learned that DeDe Spicher did appear in front of the grand jury a week or two go; we don’t know what she said,” Rosenthal stated.

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/


Kyron Horman's mother to drop civil suit in son's disappearance
August 03, 2013


<snipped>

The suit accused Terri Horman of kidnapping the boy and demanded that the court compel Horman to return him or reveal where his body is. It sought $10 million in damages, with the option to seek additional punitive damages.

But in November, a judge delayed the lawsuit until Aug. 1, saying it could affect an ongoing criminal investigation.

Now, after emerging Tuesday morning from a closed-door status hearing before Judge Henry Kantor, Young and her attorney Elden Rosenthal confirmed that they've dropped the civil suit.


"It is with great disappointment that I make this difficult decision'" Young said. ....

“In order for my lawyers to move forward with the case at this point, it would be necessary for them to seek access to the police criminal investigation files,” Young said. “My lawyers have advised me that the Oregon Public Records Disclosure Law does not provide the release of ongoing police investigation files.”

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron,” Young said. “For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.” ....

DeDe Spicher, Terri Horman's friend, recently testified before a grand jury in the case, according to Rosenthal.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/07/kyron_hormans_mother_to_drop_c.html




Kaine, MCSO committed to ‘bringing Kyron home’
July 30, 2013


Kaine Horman held a news conference Tuesday afternoon at the Wall of Hope, just hours after the mother of missing Kyron Horman said she dropped a civil suit that may have been keeping the boy’s stepmother, Terri Horman, from revealing what she knows about his disappearance.

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case,” Horman said to reporters around 3:15 p.m. He said law enforcement is “again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that. ...

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


2015

5.  In James Own Words

James Moulton - January 2015


“She kicked me out.  No question about that.  We've been having disagreements for years ... finally told me to leave."

Video Clip:
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=694360634010006&permPage=1
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2015, 12:10:11 PM »

THE 2014 CUSTODY AGREEMENT

Over one year following the agreement between Terri and Kaine ... over one year after their respective attorneys and a judge signed off on the agreement which granted Kaine full custody of Kiara while affording Terri "eventual" visitation ... Kiara's mother has yet to have any contact whatsoever with her daughter.

Considering a complaint has not been filed by Terri's attorneys ... a complaint alleging that Kaine has failed to comply with conditions cited in the agreement ... could it be that it is Terri who has failed to comply with the stipulated requirements?

When Kaine conceded to the agreement ... the agreement that would afford Terri "eventual" supervised visitation ... could it be that he was reasonable confident that Terri would fail to comply with all requirements cited in the agreement?  Therefore ... his daughter's safety would be assured while ... at the same time ... any testimony heard or evidence presented in a civil arena challenge would not compromise the ongoing parallel MFH and Kyron Horman investigations.

Is it possible that compliance to certain requirements cited in the agreement could implicate Terri in either the MFH and/or Kyron Horman cases and ... Kaine realized Stephen Houze would not allow that to happen?

In other words ... could the agreement be considered a win/win for both Kaine and the ongoing investigations?

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June 2013

1.  The Civil Lawsuit Dropped

Kaine, MCSO committed to ‘bringing Kyron home’
July 30, 2013


Kaine Horman held a news conference Tuesday afternoon at the Wall of Hope, just hours after the mother of missing Kyron Horman said she dropped a civil suit that may have been keeping the boy’s stepmother, Terri Horman, from revealing what she knows about his disappearance.

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case,” Horman said to reporters around 3:15 p.m. He said law enforcement is “again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that." ...

During Tuesday’s press conference, Kaine Horman did express disappointment over Desiree Young’s dropped civil suit.

“At the same time,” Horman said, “trying to press forward to find Kyron and protect my daughter are the two things that are in the highest priorities.” The daughter’s mother is Terri Horman.

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


June 2014

2.  The Custody Agreement

Kaine Horman will keep full custody of daughter
June 4, 2014


Kaine Horman will retain full custody of his 5-year-old daughter Kiara, a judge ruled Tuesday. The girl's mother, Terri Moulton Horman, will eventually be allowed to have supervised visits.

<snipped>

The judgment issued Wednesday determined that Terri Horman can initiate contact with Kiara through the exchange of cards and letters. Terri must participate in parent training with a knowledgeable instructor before she can be reunited with Kiara.

Kiara must also be enrolled in counseling to address issues including the reconciliation with her mother and the status of Kyron's disappearance.

"I believe where we are today is still keeping my daughter safe, that status quo is still maintained, so I think we are doing what we need to be doing.".

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/news/Kaine-Horman-awarded-full-custody-of-daughter--261867341.html

Custody Agreement:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf


June 2015

3.  Fifteen Months Later - No Contact with Kiara

Father of Kyron Horman: 'We need to bring him home'
June 2, 2015


<snipped>

"You know they've done a lot of due diligence in the searching around here and as the searches continue and nothing is found the probability goes up that he is still out there and he's with somebody else," said the missing boy's father.

Kaine Horman believes Kyron's stepmother Terri is responsible for the boy's disappearance. He thinks she may not have acted alone.

"Somebody else is involved with his disappearance and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.

Terri Horman has not been charged in the case. She has been living with her parents in Roseburg and listed a Eugene address on government records.

Kaine Horman says Terri has had "no contact of any kind" with their six-year old daughter after a lengthy divorce and custody battle.

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http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/
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THE 2014 CUSTODY AGREEMENT (Continued)

In the 2014 custody agreement ... rather than settle for "eventual" supervised visits with Kiara ... why did Terri's $350,000 attorney not pursue the quest for joint custody in the civil arena?  Hey ... in five long years ... why has Stephen Houze not FOLLOWED THROUGH with a court challenge to the restraining/no contact orders that have denied his client access to her daughter?

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October 2010

Respondent and Her Lawyers are Aware

Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010


19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


July 2013

The Bottom Line

Kaine's Attorney - Peter Engel - July 13, 2013


“Ms. Horman has been in seclusion for three years. She refuses to cooperate with law enforcement. She intends to exercise her privilege against self-incrimination. She has not contested the FAPA Order since it was originally issued in June of 2010. She has chosen to forego a relationship with the parties’ daughter Kiara, now four years old. ...”

http://www.koin.com/2013/09/13/hearing-over-horman-divorce-proceedings/
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« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2015, 12:58:31 PM »

FAMILY DYNAMICS

Could it be the disappearing of Kyron was all about a misguided attempt by Terri to save a failing marriage?

Think about it.  Could it be that the willingness to relinquish custody to Desiree and ... the emails expressing an extreme hatred of Kyron implies ... contrary to outward appearances ... Terri had failed to embrace Kaine's son as her own?

When the dynamics are considered ... in hindsight ... Kaine refusal not to allow Desiree custody of Kyron is regrettable but ... when all is said and done ... as a parent I selfishly would not have given up my child if I were in his place.  Often children of divorced parents play one against the other.  Hey ... from the age of 14 our eldest son ... rebelling against expectations ... reminded hubby and I time and time again that he wished he could live somewhere else.  It never ceases to amaze us that he chose to live at home until the age of 21.

The following article in its entirety is a good read.

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Kyron's mother, Desiree Young, appears solo on Today Show saying Terri Horman had 'severe hatred for Kyron'
August 10, 2010


<snipped>

Young, who became visibly emotional on camera, explained that a year prior to Kyron's disappearance, she tried to get custody of him.

"Kaine told me it was not an option on several occasions and it was a point of contention with us," Young said. "Kyron on many occasions told me he wanted to come and live with me and on a couple of different occasions, Terri had called me specifically so that I could talk to Kyron because he was so upset and Terri, personally wanted me to take Kyron."

On Friday, police showed Young e-mails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

Young said the emails reveal "a severe hatred for Kyron."

"She blames a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron. It was a huge point of contention in their marriage and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron," Young said. "I now believe, without a shadow of a doubt that not only is she capable of hurting Kyron, that it's clear that she could have hurt him in the worst possible way."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/kyrons_mother_desiree_young_ap.html
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2015, 11:42:15 AM »

AN OFFICIAL FOUNDATION?

When Kyon's parents' ongoing briefings with investigators are considered ... I would assume that Desiree's words regarding her son's case are derived from an official foundation.

Think about it.  Investigative updates must have been convincing.  Desiree's position has been unwavering for five years ... Desiree's position that implies Kyron left the school with Terri ... Desiree's position that Dede was an accomplice in the disappearing.

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2010

1.  The Official Foundation


Portland Public Schools Spokesman - Matt Shelby - June 7, 2010

Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.  He said it was common for parents to pick up kids this way, so no suspicions were raised.
http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=28


Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010

Witnesses said Kyron arrived at the school with his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, on Friday morning, perhaps about 8 a.m.  The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. .... However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


Multnomah County Sheriff Captain - Jason Gates - June 21, 2010

There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.
http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


Portland Public Schools Spokesman - Matt Shelby - June 21, 2010

"Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html


2010

2.  De Facto Suspect


Terri's Attorney - Peter Bunch - August 24, 2010

"Wife filed a motion to abate the dissolution proceeding because she is a de facto suspect in the disappearance of Kyron Horman. ...."
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/terri-horman-court-memo.pdf

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html


Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

“Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron’s disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.”
http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf


2012

3.  Prime Suspect

Judge Kantor - August 18, 2012


"The Plaintiff is Kyron's mother.  The defendant is a prime suspect in the investigation."
http://media.kgw.com/documents/kyron+judge+doc+821.pdf

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/24/12312628/


2013

4.  Food for Thought

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013


"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Desiree Young - September 1, 2013

"I never do anything without talking to them (LE) ... without consulting them (LE)." (Video 5:15):
http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-interview-Desiree-Young--222019741.html


Terri's Attorney - Peter Bunch - October 30, 2013

“There is no doubt she is in the cross hairs of the investigation.”

“There is no doubt, whatsoever Miss Horman is the focus of the investigation.”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/104507829.html


2015

5.  Desiree Davidson Young - In Her Own Words

May 21, 2015
:  "Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


May 29, 2015:  " .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ...
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055


June 4, 2015: "It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."
http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko


June 4, 2015:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


July 20, 2015:  "They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2015, 05:02:25 PM »

Luke 3:17
"For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all."



FAITH AND PURPOSE

Desiree Davidson Young - March 6, 2011


"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up." ....

"I have full confidence that God will reveal all and then we will be able to bring Kyron home. He is not ready for us to know everything yet, but soon he will. We must learn from all that is going on as hard as it is, God teaches us through the hard times in our lives. And man is this one of those hard times, the hardest ever.  We must honor Kyron by doing something good with it and that is what I intend to do. Thank you all for your support and thoughts."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Desiree-3/133864036644663




Loving Natalee - A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith - Beth Holloway - Sunny Tillman

Page 103
: I think about what just happened, pondering the human spirit.  Apparently it can withstand a lot more than I every dreamed possible.  Mom is right; God is good.  All my life I've heard people of many faiths talk about "taking it to the cross and turning it over to the Lord" or just simply "turning it over.  Not the work that has to be done.  Just the burden.  I cast it upon Him so that I may be sustained.  And I am renewed, resilient.  Thankful for however long this resurgence in energy will carry me.  I will pick up one foot and put it down.  Then the other one will follow.  I will breathe.  There is much to be done.

Page 230:  "I can't say for sure if we'll ever know that answer to whether my daughter is alive or not.  I know it doesn't look good.  But just as that old metal spiral staircase rose from the ashes when our lake house burned down, so too faith stands strong in the remains of this devastating loss.  And just as my Dad built another house around that staircase, I will build another life around hope and faith.  It won't ever be the same.  But I pray that it will, at the very least, be useful."



Loving Natalee: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith eBook edition
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THE REAL STORY

Why?

Desiree Young - Open Letter - February 2, 2014


"Terri Horman took something wonderful from this world that we live in, she took my son. That is the real story. Why does she insist on not telling us what she did with him that terrible day? Why does she insist on not talking, when the rest of us have cleared ourselves in this investigation? And why has she lied on numerous occasions not just to me, but to my entire family, law enforcement, her friends and her own attorneys about Kyron and her role in his disappearance? Why has she failed 2 polygraphs and walked out on the 3rd after failing that one as well? Why does she have a right to do all of the things that Kyron doesn’t; live life, go for walks, visit with neighbors, visit with her family, go outside, play with her dog, have Christmas, and just be here? Why does she hate him, why does she blame him for everything wrong in her marriage, why would Kyron have to bear that blame?  And the most important question of all; Why can’t I have him back, have him home, to hug and love as I always have? Why not Terri? What is the reason you can’t give me my son back?"

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2015, 11:11:38 AM »

THE CORNELIUS PASS SEARCHES

Dede may not have been afforded immunity until 2013.  She may not have appeared before the Grand Jury until 2013.  However ... according to her attorney in August 2010 there was cooperation between his client and investigators.  Hey ... Chad Stavely articulated in his own words ... his own words that were captured on video ... that it was only a matter of time until THE indictment against Terri came down.

Think about it.  A white pick up was observed twice in the the Cornelius Pass area ... once at 3:00 PM on the day that Kyron went missing and the other at 2:00 AM on the morning of June 5th.  Considering Terri and Kaine were at home meeting the school bus at 3:00 PM on June 4, 2010 ... speculation abounded that it was Dede who was the driver of that white pick up.

On June 6th ... two days following Kyron's disappearance ... Jim Kelley claimed that two official searches had already been conducted in the Cornelius Pass area.  Could it be that a further search was initiated in August 2010 as a result of a tip that investigators had gleaned from Dede and/or her cell phone /computer?

Could it be that disposable phones were the focus of the August 2010 official search and a September 2013 private search in the Cornelius Pass area ... disposable phones that may have been purchased prior to June 4th ... disposable phones that may have been used in the planning and execution stages encompassing the disappearing of Kyron?


CONNECT THE DOTS

June 2010

Day 3: FBI calls in criminal profiler in search for missing Skyline boy; interviews with students and parents begin
June 06, 2010


<snipped>

Neighbors stop by Brooks Hill Historic church, across the street from the school, to mull over the investigation. "This kind of thing is unheard of," says Jim Kelley, 50.

Kelley, who lives about a mile and a half down hill, at the end of a winding, secluded country lane off Cornelius Pass, said police, federal agents, K-9 teams and helicopters scoured the area Saturday.

"We had two odd sightings of a vehicle on our road Friday," Kelley said. Around 3 p.m., he and a neighbor reported seeing a white pick-up truck with a female driver pull to the end of the long road, idle and then turn around. Then again at 2 a.m. Saturday morning, a similar white pickup truck appeared, idled and when a neighbor loosed her dogs, eased away."

"A, it was strange to have a car there, any car there, that we didn't know, and B, it was strange to have a vehicle come down our dead-end road twice in the same day, hours after a little boy goes missing," said Kelley. "That's beyond rare."

Kelley said authorities have twice searched the deep ravine, creek and railroad tracks located near the end of his street by air and on foot.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/day_three_search_continues_hun.html


July 2010

Blink - July 23, 2010

17.  Sondra says:
July 23, 2010 at 1:51 am


Could DeDe be the red head in truck ….

This is exactly who I believe was in that truck. She is FOS also, her vehicle was processed as well.  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/comment-page-16/


August 2010

Crews Search Again In Kyron Horman Case
August 8, 2010


Crews returned to northwest Portland on Saturday in the search for missing 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

FOX 12 has confirmed that a tip from DeDe Spicher -- a friend of Kyron's stepmother Terri Horman -- is what sparked the search.

Search teams were seen near a field off Cornelius Pass Road, about one mile south of Skyline School. Kyron was last seen at the school June 4 and his stepmother was the last person known to have seen him.

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/news/24556227/detail.html


Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
August 18, 2010


<snipped>

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

I would be, frankly, surprised if TerriHorman did not eventually face charges in this case, Stavley said. I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/


Blink - August 19, 2010

5.  ".... I do not usually say this, but in the interest of disclosure I feel I must.  Dede absolutely creeps me out. I mean, everything about her. No malice intended, and I cannot put my finger on it." B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-56/#comments


September 2013

Mom of missing Kyron won't 'let Terri win'
Sunday, September 1, 2013


<snipped>

Volunteers with the group Kyron Horman's World Soldiers set up a staging area in northwest Portland off Skyline Boulevard. They recruited two non-profit search agencies, and said they had an overwhelming response from volunteers.

Aided by 10 search dog teams, around 60 volunteers each day scoured the area around Skyline Boulevard and Germantown Road -- the same area searchers combed shortly after Kyron disappeared in 2010.

<snipped>

http://www.koin.com/news/marion-county/volunteers-continue-search-for-kyron


Kyron Horman's mom: Weekend search turned up possible evidence
Posted: Sep 01, 2013


During a news conference at Skyline School Sunday evening, Desiree Young said a search she organized for her missing son, Kyron Horman, was successful.

About 60 volunteers, two nonprofit organizations and 10 search dogs focused on the area around Northwest Germantown Road and Skyline Boulevard.

The search started Saturday morning and wrapped up Sunday.

"We're not going to find Kyron if we're not searching," said Young.

Young said the search turned up "a lot of things and possibly evidence," but she would not elaborate on what items were found. She said the items were turned over to the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office. A spokesman for MCSO said they received the items and were processing them to determine whether it's related to the Kyron's case or not. MCSO was aware of the search but was not involved.

<snipped>

http://www.kptv.com/story/23314551/kyron-hormans-mom-weekend-search-turned-up-possible-evidence


Desiree Young - September 5, 2013

42.  quizzical says:
September 5, 2013 at 6:39 pm
Posted today at about 3:20pm on Anti-Terri

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Desiree Davidson Young Also…DeDe – why use “throw away” phones to call and talk to Terri on and after 6/4/10 if you have nothing to hide and you are innocent. Oh and wait that means you were in contact with Terri after March 2010????? So many holes in this story I can’t even keep up. And those are just the ones that are public and we can talk about. And yes not one bit of this is about Kyron or finding Kyron. What happened to “find Kyron first”?

Ky I love you my sweetie and I pray that your life will become the number one priority again to people like this. Please know that I love you and would give my life for you. Momma’s still here. ....

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-3/


May 2015

Desiree Young - May 31, 2015


"We've found evidence to suggest that Terri might have been trying to get rid of things connected  to Kyron. ...."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2015, 04:43:02 PM »

WHERE WAS KIARA?

Five months later ... Kaine is "pretty" confident Kiara was with Terri and Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010.  When ongoing briefings by investigations are considered ... why is Kiara's father only "pretty" confident?  When inquiring minds from the get go want to know whether or not Kiara was with Kiara ... why has there not been an official release confirming or denying?  Could it be that one or two accomplices were waiting in the white truck with the toddler?

Think about it.  Sari Shanti ... owner of Magic Cleaners ... claimed in a 2013 KGW interview that Terri was "alone" when she entered the establishment on the morning when Kyron when missing.  Did Sari tell the same story when disposed by Terri's attorney?  Will she be a defence or prosecution witness in an eventual trial?


November 2010

Pretty Confident


Kaine Horman - November 15, 2010

"Lay out the scenarios of everything that could have happened to him that day," said Kaine Monday. "Every scenario that has him alive still today ... look at any of those scenarios and have your child have to witness another child going through that right in front of their face; it's horrific, I don't care how you describe it. So yeah, I think he's alive ... I think it was an awful day; I sure hope she did not witness what happened that day but I'm pretty confident that she was there based upon what we know."

We have not yet received confirmation as to whether Terri had Kiara with her when she is believed to have gone into the science fair at Kryon's Skyline School shortly before Kyron is said to have vanished.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/108250924.html?tab=video&c=y


September 2013

Confident

Sari Shanti - September 16, 2013


Video Excerpt (1:25)

Kyle Iboshi:  Terri Horman's lawyers also hope to question the owner of Magic Cleaners in Beaverton.  She says that Terri came in  ALONE and dropped off some clothes the day Kyron disappeared.

Sari Shanti:  She dropped off two shirts for cleaning.  There was nobody with her.

Reporter:  A little kid?

Sari Shanti: No.

http://www.kgw.com/news/Judge-Terri-Hormans-lawyers-cannot-subpoena-lead-investgator-223927381.html


May 2015

Food for Thought

Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015


<snipped>

Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation.

<snipped>
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2015, 05:34:35 PM »

MAGIC CLEANERS?

June 2010

Magic Cleaners - The Missing Link


Terri Horman - Timeline in Her Own Words - June 5, 2010

“They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream,” she wrote in one e-mail to a KATU News source the day after her stepson, Kyron Horman, was reported to be vanished from Skyline School during a science fair. ....

"I left the school at 9 .... I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for Kitty they didn't have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get Kitty to sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30. That was my day - they keep asking me. Now on my 5th interview with them."

<snipped>

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


July 2010

Strike Two

Little Boy Lost
July 26, 2010


<snipped>

DESIREE YOUNG: She couldn't explain to them for about two hours worth of time where she was or what she was doing.

And there was something else that gave Desiree and Tony a sinking feeling that something wasn't right. They say Terri's cell phone records apparently didn't match up with where she said she was on the morning of Kyron's disappearance.

TONY YOUNG: That to me is strike two. That's huge… There's starting to be some structural problems with what she's saying at that point. And then it continues to stack up.

<snipped>

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38420266/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/little-boy-lost/#.VXxWTvlViko


September 2013

The Depositions?


Judge: Terri Horman's lawyers cannot question investigator
September 16, 2013


<snipped>

Investigators said for years that Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron before he disappeared from Skyline Elementary in July, 2010. But her attorneys said Friday that was not the case. ....

Judge Kantor Monday granted a motion filed by Kaine Horman's attorneys to stop Terri Horman's attorneys from questioning deputy O'Donnell.

However, Terri Horman's attorneys can conduct their own investigation. They will be allowed to interview witnesses, including teachers at Skyline Elementary and employees of Fred Meyer, Magic Cleaners and 24-hour Fitness. They will not be allowed to question Skyline students.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/news/Judge-Terri-Hormans-lawyers-cannot-subpoena-lead-investgator-223927381.html


May 2015

Food for Thought

Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015


<snipped>

Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html
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Desiree Young - February 2, 2011

"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."

http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop

+++++

THE EMAILS

Desiree Young

Severe Hatred - Great Detail

Kyron Horman's Mother Speaks Out
11/15/2010


Transcript Excerpt

<snipped>

On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

Desiree: It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron.

I now believe without a shadow of a doubt that not only is she capable of hurting Kyron, that it's clear that she could have hurt him in the worst possible way

<snipped>

http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247


Kaine Horman

Adds to the Pile


Missing Kyron's Dad Points Finger at Stepmom
Kaine Horman suspects his estranged wife knows what happened to his son.
11/19/2010


Transcript Excerpt

<snipped>

Reporter: Have you seen the emails that are being talked about where Terri allegedly talks about hurting Kyron?

Kaine: Yeah, well, I, I've seen them. Yes.

Reporter: What is in those emails?

Kaine: I'm not gonna talk about it. It's information that's supposed to be confidential to the investigation, and...

Reporter: Did they only solidify your belief that Terri's responsible?

Kaine: Everything that we see moving forward just adds to the pile.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-kyrons-dad-points-finger-stepmom-12189940?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=11128091&page=1
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THE WITNESSES?

September 2013

It's Not True

Stephen Houze Claims - September 13, 2013


"It's not true," Houze said of the claims Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron that day. "We have witnesses who will say, in fact, they know facts first-hand that demonstrate that is not true."

http://www.kptv.com/story/23425918/attorney-terri-horman-wasnt-last-person-to-see-kyron-horman-at-school


October 2013

The Proof?

Kaine's Attorney Requests - October 9, 2013


The court documents indicate Kaine Horman's lawyer requested information from Terri Horman on the person or persons you contend have knowledge that Terri Horman was not the last person to see Kyron Horman on June 4, 2010 at Skyline School.

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/25/12570816/


Kaine's Attorney Demands - October 10, 2013

At the previous hearing, Terri Horman's attorney claimed he can prove his client was not the last person to see Kyron at Skyline School.

Now, Kaine Horman's attorney is demanding access to any documents that led Terri's legal team to make that assertion.

http://www.kptv.com/story/23657846/terri-horman-divorce-case-back-in-court-today


August 2014

According to Terri

Terri Horman - August 14, 2014


"He (Stephen Houze) stated in court I was in fact not the last person to have seen Kyron.  My lawyer has witnesses to prove it."

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/08/four_women_who_opposed_terri_h.html


May 2015

Food for Thought

No Further Explanation - May 31, 2015


Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2015, 02:13:57 PM »

DEDE SPICHER

Could it be that in the summer of 2013 ... Dede's attorney and the DA did finally reached a plea deal?  Dede would be afforded immunity from prosecution in exchange for the truth regarding not only Dede's participation but also the participation of others as it pertained to the secreting of Kyron Horman.

Could it be that the truth WAS affirmed via a polygraph and a GJ testimony?

Could it be that there was another condition linked to Dede's plea deal?  Could it be that Dede's cooperation was required in subtly affording Terri's attorney with a heads-up that his  client had been busted?  Logic dictates that Dede's alleged immunity plea deal revelation in the interview would raise a red flag that Stephen Houze could not ignore?

Could it be that LE anticipated that the revealed immunity deal would motivate Terri's attorney to conclude that a negotiated plea deal would be in the best interest of his client prior to THE indictment against Terri coming down ... THE indictment that Dede's own attorney referenced?  In other words ... the strategy hopefully would convince Houze if the Kyron Horman case went to trial that Dede ... the friend Terri had not spoken to in three years ... would testify on behalf of the Prosecution?

It makes sense that the major networks and other media outlets were bending over backwards for their own exclusive with Dede following the August 2013 Blink interview.  Think about it. There has not been a peep from Dede over the past two years.  Why?

Could it be that this wannabe detective suspects a conspiracy where there is none?
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2015, 09:17:11 PM »

2.  DEDE SPICHER


July 2010

We Implore

Kyron's family implores Terri's friend to cooperate with police
Published: Jul 22, 2010


<snipped>

Here is the statement released by Desiree and Tony Young, and Kaine Horman:

“We have been briefed by law enforcement on the most recent developments in Kyron’s case.  We have been informed that they have identified a person that has been in close communication with Terri Moulton Horman since Kyron went missing and her name is DeDe Spicher.  She has not only been in close communication with Terri but has been providing Terri with support and advice that is not in the best interests of our son.  Additional information provided shows that she is refusing to cooperate with law enforcement, she is also going as far as to suggest to others that may have information regarding Kyron’s disappearance, not to cooperate as well.  We implore DeDe Spicer (sic) to come forward and cooperate with the investigators in any way that they need in order to assist us in finding our son.  We will state further that if we find out through the investigation that she caused a delay in us finding our son due to her lack of cooperation, we will pursue civil remedies in this matter.

“We as a family cannot understand how anyone can look at Kyron’s smiling face, having information and choose not to help bring him home.  Please remember what this is about, it’s about bringing a wonderful little boy back to his family.”


Desiree, Tony, and Kaine

http://www.katu.com/news/local/99076504.html
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2015, 11:53:20 AM »

3.  DEDE SPLICHER

August 2010

A June 4th Dede/Terri Connection?

DeDe, Terri unaccounted for at same time on June 4
August 12, 2010


PORTLAND, Ore. -- DeDe Spicher and Terri Moulton-Horman were both unaccounted for during the same period of time the day Kyron Horman disappeared, based on information revealed by investigators and on information from KGW sources. ....

Sources also tell KGW that, during the period of time DeDe was unaccounted for, her car remained at the property where she had been gardening. According to sources, that detail is significant because, if DeDe left the property as investigators believe, she would have had to leave in another vehicle.

Meanwhile, at a Wednesday press conference, investigators focused on the movements of the Horman family pickup truck on the day Kyron disappeared. Investigators specifically asked for any witnesses who might have seen the pickup in that same area of Skyline between 10:15 and 11:30 a.m. Sources tell KGW that investigators identified that as the time between when Terri left a Beaverton Fred Meyer and her next known stop, at her personal gym.

These timelines leave a one-hour, fifteen-minute block of time in the middle of the day Kyron disappeared where the whereabouts of both Terri and DeDe was still under investigation.  At Wednesday's press conference, deputies focused in on specific roads in the Skyline area where the family's white truck may have been during that window of time. ....

Investigators spent Sunday searching the home where Spicher gardened the morning of June 4.

The person who owns the house where Spicher gardened, who is cooperating with investigators, told investigators she called Spicher on her cell phone but she didn't answer, the source told KGW. A person who was working with Spicher, who is also cooperating with investigators, told them of trying to unsuccessfully find Spicher. Both people have told investigators they have no idea where Spicher was during that period of time.

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/DeDe-Spicher-99077874.html


Secret Phones

Terri's Friend - August 6, 2010


KATU now knows that friends purchased cell phones to communicate with the stepmother of missing Kyron Horman after the second grader disappeared two months ago.  Additionally, one of those friends did so using a fake name, according to multiple sources on Friday.  A friend of Terri Horman said the secret phones were intended to provide some level of privacy with their conversations, which they felt were being monitored by law enforcement.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100161574.html


Secret Conversations

Dede Spicher - People Magazine Interview - August 18, 2010


The pair also assumed they were under surveillance. "Any conversations that we wanted to have, we'd go out into the yard," Spicher says. "When we were in the house, we'd talk about the kids, we'd talk about her marriage, talked about her family."

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20413793,00.html


Bottom Line

Blink - August 7, 2010


44. " .... What kind of conversations do you need to have outside of LE monitoring when their is a 7 year old missing would be my question."  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-27/#comments


THE indictment

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
August 18, 2010


<snipped>

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

I would be, frankly, surprised if TerriHorman did not eventually face charges in this case, Stavley said. I'd be surprised if THE indictment didn't come down.

<snipped>

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/


October 2012

The Deposition

Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
October 23, 2012


Desiree Young's lawyer has filed a motion asking a judge to compel DeDe Spicher, a friend of Terri Moulton Horman's, to answer his questions after she declined to answer 142 questions during a deposition he took earlier this month stemming from Young's civil lawsuit against Horman.

Multnomah County sheriff's investigators looking into the disappearance of Kyron Horman, a second-grader who went missing from Skyline School on June 4, 2010, were interested in the whereabouts of Spicher on that day.

Spicher declined to answer any questions posed by Young's lawyers on Oct. 5 that involved Terri Horman, Kyron's stepmom, or Kyron -- each time asserting her Fifth Amendment constitutional right not to incriminate herself.

Spicher also declined to answer questions about where she was on June 4, 2010.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


July 2013

The Grand Jury

Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit against stepmom
July 30, 2013


A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney.  He said that DeDe Spicher has testified before the grand jury for the criminal case.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify.

<snipped>

http://www.krem.com/news/217645481.html


September 2013

The Immunity Deal

Dede Spicher says she signed immunity deal in Kyron case
September 5, 2013


The latest development in the ongoing investigation into the disappearance of Kyron Horman involves Dede Spicher, a close friend of Kyron s stepmom Terri Horman.

In an online article, Dede Spicher claims she has passed a polygraph, signed an immunity deal with prosecutors, and agreed to tell all before the grand jury investigating the case. ....

In an October 2012 deposition, Spicher pleaded the 5th to a number questions about the Kyron case. The questions ranged from Kyron's disappearance to whether she was a friend of Terri Horman.

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/25/12560426/


DeDe Spicher breaks silence in interview with crime blog
Posted: Sep 04, 2013


<snipped>

Legal analyst Bruce McCain shared his take about the new developments.

"It's not at all uncommon or unthinkable that the district attorney would be making an immunity deal with somebody associated with Kyron Horman's disappearance," said legal analyst Bruce McCain about the blog.

McCain did, however, question why Spicher would share the revelations with a blog, when she refused to comment during previous depositions.

"If the goal was the get her story out, she could have picked frankly a better venue," McCain said.

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office issued a "no comment" when FOX 12 inquired about the blog's report that Spicher had been "unofficially" cleared.

The district attorney's office also issued a "no comment."


http://www.kptv.com/story/23343156/dede-spicher-breaks-silence-with-interview-on-crime-blog


June 2015

She's One of Them

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance

+++++


The BOC-Dede Spicher Interview

Part 1 - September 2013

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/#comments

Part 2 - September 2013
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/comment-page-1/#comments

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Loving Natalee - Beth Holloway
Page 219: I have to make difficult choices every day.  I have to make a conscious decision every morning when I wake up not to be bitter, not to live in resentment and let anger control me.  It's not easy.  I ask God to help me.
_____

“A person of integrity expects to be believed and when he’s not, he let’s time prove him right.” -unknown
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