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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2015, 02:09:35 PM »

RECENT CASE UPDATES IN A NUTSHELL

May 2015

This is the Moment

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015


"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


Everything in Writing

Desiree Young - May 29, 2015


" .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055


June 2015

Our Trusted Circle

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko


One of Them

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


Just a Technicality

Desiree Young - June 5, 2015


“She’s (Terri) not been named a suspect just as a technicality – she’s definitely a person of interest.”

http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/Mom-to-Kyron-Im-bringing-you-home-Be-strong-Im-coming--306296871.html


July 2015

All About Strategy

Desiree Davidson Young - July 19, 2015


"Well law enforcement is all about strategy, it doesn't make sense to the rest of us but they only get one shot to get it right.  The day that Casey Anthony took Caylee out of this life, change the way that law enforcement will proceed on cases and how they prosecute all missing child cases.  They won't put her in Jail until we have Kyron."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.852969098126346/852969098126346/?type=1&theater


Lots of Progress Recently

Desiree Young - July 20, 2015


"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater


Reminder

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.
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http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/
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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2015, 04:48:10 PM »

Terri Horman e-mails: 'They are blaming me'
Aug 9, 2010


Long before news of the alleged murder-for-hire plot and sexting affairs, it seems Terri Moulton Horman knew suspicions were settled on her, according to e-mails written by Horman and obtained first by KATU News.

“They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream,” she wrote in one e-mail to a KATU News source the day after her stepson, Kyron Horman, was reported to be vanished from Skyline School during a science fair. Investigators say Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron. ....

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


1.  IN HER OWN WORDS - THE MALE CHAPERONE

June 2010

The Day After

Terri Horman - In Her Own Words - June 5, 2010


" ... I left the school at 9 and he was seen with a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls after I left. There were no men on the chaperone list."

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


However ....


The Two Left the School Together

Portland Public Schools Spokesman - Matt Shelby - June 7, 2010


Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.  He said it was common for parents to pick up kids this way, so no suspicions were raised.

http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=28


According to School Staff

Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010


Witnesses said Kyron arrived at the school with his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, on Friday morning, perhaps about 8 a.m.  The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. .... However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


Contrary to Previous Reports

Multnomah County Sheriff Captain - Jason Gates - June 21, 2010


There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.

http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


The Last School Staff to see Kyron

Portland Public Schools Spokesman - Matt Shelby - June 21, 2010


"Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html


2.  IN HER OWN WORDS - THE APPOINTMENT

June 2010

The Disconnect

Terri Horman - In Her  Own Words - June 5, 2010


"The teacher thought I said I was going to take Kyron with Kitty for a doctor’s appt.  I said I was going to look at other exhibits - how do you mess that up?"

http://www.katu.com/news/local/100323934.html


However ....


May 2015

Everything in Writing

Desiree Young - May 29, 2015


" .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055

 
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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2015, 05:51:34 PM »

It makes sense that Kaine Horman's words in a court document challenging the modification of the Restraining Order ... words pertaining to three polygraphs ... were derived from an official foundation.

Terri Horman - The Polygraphs

The Petition
October 25, 2010


Petitioner, Kaine Horman by and through his attorney Laura E. Rackner and Gearing,
Rackner, Engel, & McGrath LLP, responds to Respondent's Motion to Modify Restraining
Order to Prevent Abuse Regarding Parenting Time as follows: ....

Pages 4-5

Respondent failed the first polygraph test law enforcement gave her regarding Kyron's disappearance.

Law enforcement requested a second polygraph within days after the first. She appeared for that second test, but walked out in the middle of the test.

Law enforcement requested a third test- Respondent resisted the test for approximately one week. She finally agreed and took the third polygraph test. Shecompleted the third test and failed again


http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2015, 09:10:01 PM »

1.  A SEALED INDICTMENT?

The following document filing ... which is a good read in its entirety ... says it all in regards to Kaine and Desiree's five year focus on Terri in their ongoing quest for answers encompassing the disappearance of Kyron and ....

It says it all in regards to Terri's attorney not following through with a legal challenge to the restraining/no contact orders in the past five years that have prevented his client from contact with her daughter and ....

It says it all in regards to Kaine and Desiree not following through with challenges in the civil area ... challenges that would compromise the MFH and Kyron Horman cases.

Could it be that a sealed indictment against Terri exists ... a sealed indictment that will be served when ALL the dots leading to a secreted Kyron have been connected?

The Affidavit

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010


19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


An Indictment is Out There?

Blink - October 26, 2010


27.  .... This has been one of my primary reasons for suspecting that there is an indictment of some type out there. B

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/comment-page-25/#comments


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2.  THOSE IN THE KNOW

Something tells me that legal eagles with a connection to the Kyron Horman case were privy to the existence of a sealed indictment.  Think about it.  The DA has yet to name Terri Horman as a Person of Interest however ....

THE Indictment

Chad Stavley - August 18, 2010


"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case.  I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/


De Facto Suspect

Peter Bunch - August 24, 2010


"Wife filed a motion to abate the dissolution proceeding because she is a de facto suspect in the disappearance of Kyron Horman. ...."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/terri-horman-court-memo.pdf


Prime Suspect

Judge Kantor - August 18, 2012


"The Plaintiff is Kyron's mother.  The defendant is a prime suspect in the investigation."

http://media.kgw.com/documents/kyron+judge+doc+821.pdf


Cross Hairs of the Investigation - Focus of the Investigation

Peter Bunch - October 30, 2013


“There is no doubt she is in the cross hairs of the investigation.”

“There is no doubt, whatsoever Miss Horman is the focus of the investigation.”

http://www.katu.com/news/local/104507829.html


Not in the Public Interest

Judge Randolph Lee Garrison - September 10, 2014


"Your connection to the Kyron Horman disappearance is something of great public interest.  There are folks that say that you have nothing to do with it. There are others that think that you have.  As long as this matter remains unsolved, unresolved and until more information is given by you about that, it doesn't seem to be in the public's interest to change your name."

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/12/terri_horman_withdrew_petition.html
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Reward for Kyron Horman: Sheriff's office offers $50,000 for information in 5-year-old case of missing Portland boy
May 28, 2015


As the fifth anniversary of Kyron Horman's disappearance approaches, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is publicizing its ongoing $50,000 reward for information that leads to the discovery of the missing boy. ...
 
Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton and District Attorney Rod Underhill declined to answer questions about the status of the case, but instead the sheriff's office put out a four-paragraph statement Thursday

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/sheriffs_office_offers_50000_r.html


MCSO Statement
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/KH%20Missing%20PR(1).pdf
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« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2015, 10:37:40 AM »

THE SEPTEMBER 2015 SEARCH

Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015


<snipped>

In September, Young is planning another search.

She hopes to bring in 15 tracking and cadaver dog teams from Washington, Idaho, California and Florida to search in the Portland area, but wouldn't say where. She's organized several other searches in the past.

She said they've turned up evidence implicating Terri Moulton Horman, who was married to Kaine Horman at the time Kyron went missing. ....

"We've found evidence to suggest that Terri might have been trying to get rid of things connected to Kyron," Young said, referring to the previous searches. "She's not going to talk until we have evidence to confront her. We have to find it."

Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation. She has never faced charges.

Young said she's coordinating the search with the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office, but said the agency wouldn't take part. She plans to keep searching until every inch of territory is covered.

"There are so many different areas that have to be searched thoroughly," Young said. "It's a big canvas. There is no way that law enforcement can do that."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman
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« Reply #26 on: August 17, 2015, 11:05:02 AM »

THROUGH IT ALL - AMAZING STRENGTH - MAKING A DIFFERENCE

Kyron's Mom



Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015


It's said that time heals all wounds. For Desiree Young, it's not worked out that way.

The pain she first felt five years ago when her son Kyron disappeared hasn't softened. If anything, her emotions are more ragged today, she said. Tears flow often. The gnawing hole inside hasn't filled, not even a little.

"It doesn't get easier with time," Young said. "I still wake up crying and praying, hoping today will be the day."

Young tries to keep busy. She's a budget analyst at Southern Oregon University. She goes to therapy. She supports families as coordinator for Team Hope, a group of parent volunteers for the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.

Young addresses at least one conference every year that's sponsored by the center. She also has shared her perspective as a parent of a missing child at nationwide law enforcement conferences, including for the Amber Alert system and Child Abduction Response Team Training under the U.S. Department of Justice.

CART teams are made up of professionals from various disciplines, including city and county police agencies as well as counselors, educators and specialists in  search and rescue. When a child goes missing, they work together, something that doesn't always come naturally to independent agencies.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html


Natalee's Mom



Loving Natalee - A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith - Beth Holloway - Sunny Tillman

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 "My child.  My beautiful daughter.  I can't save her.  It's too late.  Natalee is gone. And second to the great tragedy of losing her is if we fail to learn from what has happened.  I could be any parent in the world.  And no parent should ever go through this experience.  Natalee could be anyone's daughter.  And in these thoughts a new path is made clear.  There is something I can do.  Many people reached out to us, and I can now reach back to them.  It might be too late to save Natalee, but it's not too late to save others.  And it's time now to make good on my pledge. It's time now to make good on my pledge to stand before high-school and college students, law enforcement professionals, victims' rights groups, travelers of all ages, and anyone interested in personal safety to share Natalee's story and our hard lessons, so that OTHERS MIGHT LEARN from them."

Page 219: "In each city I have the privilege to speak to several high schools, churches, or law enforcement and civic groups.  This translates to thousands of youths and adults.  Delivering this safety message is my triumph over devastation.  If gives me great joy and is tremendously rewarding work.  I think that I can bear the pain of losing Natalee if it means that I can prevent another family from going through our tragic experience.  If even just one young person in tens of thousands is saved, then it's well worth it."


Loving Natalee: A Mother's Testament of Hope and Faith eBook edition
by Holloway, Beth
ISBN: 9780061538681
Publisher: HarperCollins e-books
Year Published: 2007
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« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2015, 07:29:06 PM »

BEHIND THE SCENES IN THE KYRON HORMAN CASE

It makes sense if the father of Kyron had not been convinced in ongoing investigative briefings that "probable" evidence exist that Terri was involved in the secreting of his son ... in five long years the focal point in his desperate quest to find his son would shifted.


In the Beginning

Blink - June 29, 2010

6.  .... "I believe that Kaine has learned information that in order to protect Kiara and his rights he was advised to do exactly as he did." ....  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/29/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-kaine-horman-files-for-restraining-order-and-divorce-from-terri-horman/comment-page-1/


Blink - June 29, 2010

47.  .... "I believe Kaine is aware of the who/why but not the where. My thoughts and prayers are with him, Kyron, and the entire family today. I would sincerely appreciate it if whomever knows where Kyron is come clean privately. ... It's time."  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-15/


Kaine Horman - Unsealed Restraining Order - July 8, 2010

"I believe the respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010. I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probably cause to believe the above two statements are true."

http://www.kptv.com/news/24186798/detail.html

http://www.kptv.com/download/2010/0708/24186795.pdf


Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


One Year Later

Kaine Horman - June 3, 2011


"In light of something not breaking, coming forward quickly, this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint. This could go on for two, three, four years, potentially without closure."

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kyron-1-year-anniversary-123042478.html


Two Years Later

Kaine Horman - June 3, 2012

Does he think Kyron is still alive?

"Yes, ma'am, I sure do," Horman said.

Does he think he's sequestered somewhere?

"That's pretty much the only option at this point," he said.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/06/does_kaine_horman_think_his_so.html


Kaine Horman - August 15, 2012

Video Excerpt (1:40)

In newly released transcript from a June hearing Kyron father say that police now have mounting evidence against the boy's stepmother.  "It significantly strengthened their believe that she had involvement. ..."

http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/01/12309684/


Three Years Later

Kaine Horman - July 30, 2013

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case.  Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Four Years Later

Kaine Horman - February 20, 2014


"There is nothing more important to me than keeping my daughter safe and bringing him [Kyron] home.  We have work to do. A lot of it is happening outside the courtroom, so we have a lot of things that need to get done. We are continuing to work with investigators and we're continuing to drive closure to his [Kyron's] case."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Terri-Horman-fights-To-Question-Landscaper-242247221.html


Five Years Later

Kaine Horman - May 30, 2015

"She (Terri) has become a dead end as far as making progress,  Someone else was involved. There's someone we don't know about."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_case_as_5th_anniv.html


Kaine Horman - June 2, 2015

" .... It just takes that one.  It takes that one connection, that one sighting, that one piece of information that we don't have and this is over."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/
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« Reply #28 on: August 20, 2015, 12:58:21 PM »

Luke 3:17
"For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all."



Above Your Need To Know

Blink - June 23, 2010

46
. .... "Let me say this- I am a fan of this MCSO. From Dan Staton to Jason Gates and his team, they have done everything right in my eyes.  I have studied his election campaign, and his career, and this guy is a cops cop and a people’s sheriff. This community is lucky to have him.  That said, I also understand people’s frustration that their information is validated.  I am asking that folks put this Investigative team in a position of faith and trust, above your need to know. This is about Kyron, not us." B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/23/new-clues-in-kyron-horman-search-fact-or-fiction-you-decide/comment-page-3/#comments


We have Knowledge of Things

Multnomah County Sheriff Dan Staton - October 7, 2010


"I know I'm taking a long pause on that, I have to think through that answer. I think there are things that come out of this investigation that will surprise you, that you'll think about later on when it's over. We have a knowledge of things we don't want to know about ... of things we wish we didn't know."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11763786/


All That the Police Know

Desiree Davidson Young - March 6, 2011

"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up." ....

"I have full confidence that God will reveal all and then we will be able to bring Kyron home. He is not ready for us to know everything yet, but soon he will. We must learn from all that is going on as hard as it is, God teaches us through the hard times in our lives. And man is this one of those hard times, the hardest ever.  We must honor Kyron by doing something good with it and that is what I intend to do.  Thank you all for your support and thoughts."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Team-Desiree-3/133864036644663
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« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2015, 02:13:12 PM »

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

For almost three years investigative dots were being connected behind the scenes in the Dylan Redwine case and now his father is considered an official person of interest.

Kaine Horman and Desiree Young who are privy to ongoing updates in the case encompassing the secreting of their precious son imply time and time again in their own words that investigative dots are also being connected behind the scenes.  I believe them.

Justice for Dylan!

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Three Years Later

Mark Redwine named "person of interest" in his son Dylan's homicide
POSTED:   08/19/2015


The death of 13-year-old Dylan Redwine is now considered a homicide, and his father is a person of interest in the case, law enforcement officials said Wednesday.

Redwine went missing in November 2012 while at his father's home in La Plata County, where he was visiting as part of a court-ordered visitation. His cause of death initially had been classified as undetermined.

In a news release, the sheriff's office said Mark Redwine, Dylan's father, is a person of interest based on evidence collected, inconsistent statements made and his behavior throughout the investigation.

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« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2015, 02:41:36 PM »

CONNECTING THAT FINAL DOT

Blink - August 6, 2010


10.  ".... Everyone- the point is, she may be 100% to blame, but if you think she acted alone, I can promise you that is not possible, and that complicates this case."  B

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-26/#comments


Desiree Young - June 21, 2014

“We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk."

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


Kaine Horman - June 2, 2015

" .... It just takes that one.  It takes that one connection, that one sighting, that one piece of information that we don't have and this is over."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/


Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."

"We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko
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« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2015, 04:53:47 PM »

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

In August/September 2010 it appears that Monkeys were afforded the first exclusive Dede interview ... either directly or indirectly.  Flymonkey's responses on the SM forum ... for the most part ... equate to Dede's words in the September 2013 Blink interview.

Flymonkey - September 18, 2010 - Reply #889

Hope I'm doing this right... I guess I'm the newest Monkey.  I figured I would jump in here because I've been a "fly on the wall" on this forum for several weeks now, and that's one reason I became "FlyMonkey!"  I am here because I am a friend of DeDe Spicher, and if I can offer you all any information about her I would be happy to do so.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8508.msg1231248#msg1231248


Flymonkey - September 22, 2010 - Reply #154

Hi Monkeys.  I see that you are all SURE that I am DeDe, but I don't care enough about proving you wrong to reveal anything personal about myself.  Let me just say that I am at least a few hundred miles away from DeDe right now and just a friend of hers, as I said before.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8591.msg1234020#msg1234020

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A COMPARISON

1.  The SM-Flymonkey Interview

September 18, 2010
Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #28
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8508.msg1231248#msg1231248

TO:

October 26, 2010
Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #34
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8730.msg1253001#msg1253001


Flymonkey - 94 Posts - In a Nutshell

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=profile;u=9273;sa=showPosts;start=0


2.  The BOC-Dede Spicher Interview

Part 1 - September 2013
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/#comments

Part 2 - September 2013
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/comment-page-1/#comments
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« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2015, 11:10:40 AM »

THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM

Wishful thinking?  Maybe.  However ... could it be that that an indictment is forthcoming in the Kyron Horman Case?  Think about it.  Kaine's website went "poof" a couple of weeks ago.

http://bringkyronhome.org/
 

Lots of Progress Recently

Desiree Young - July 20, 2015


"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater

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« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2015, 12:45:34 PM »

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

In August/September 2010 it appears that Monkeys were afforded the first exclusive Dede interview ... either directly or indirectly.  Flymonkey's responses on the SM forum ... for the most part ... equate to Dede's words in the September 2013 Blink interview.

Flymonkey - September 18, 2010 - Reply #889

Hope I'm doing this right... I guess I'm the newest Monkey.  I figured I would jump in here because I've been a "fly on the wall" on this forum for several weeks now, and that's one reason I became "FlyMonkey!"  I am here because I am a friend of DeDe Spicher, and if I can offer you all any information about her I would be happy to do so.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8508.msg1231248#msg1231248


Flymonkey - September 22, 2010 - Reply #154

Hi Monkeys.  I see that you are all SURE that I am DeDe, but I don't care enough about proving you wrong to reveal anything personal about myself.  Let me just say that I am at least a few hundred miles away from DeDe right now and just a friend of hers, as I said before.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8591.msg1234020#msg1234020

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1.  The SM-Flymonkey Interview

September 18, 2010
Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #28
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8508.msg1231248#msg1231248

TO:

October 26, 2010
Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #34
http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8730.msg1253001#msg1253001


Flymonkey - 94 Posts - In a Nutshell

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?action=profile;u=9273;sa=showPosts;start=0


2.  The BOC-Dede Spicher Interview

Part 1 - September 2013
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/#comments

Part 2 - September 2013
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/comment-page-1/#comments
Well that was very interesting,thank you Tamikosmom.
I found the below post interesting.Doesn't dear Dede now have immunity?If so....wonder what she "traded"for it?

37     Missing Persons - High Profile / Missing Persons - High Profile - Archives / Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old PORTLAND, OR #30 9/21/10 -    on: September 24, 2010, 01:34:23 PM
Quote from: Monkey King on September 24, 2010, 01:21:06 PM
FlyMonkey~

It has been noted that Dede met Kaine and Terri at approx the same time at the gym, and Kaine had made arrangements for Dede to organize Terri's 40th birthday aprty.  why is it that Kaine insists on no really knowing Dede?

Also, had Dede advised why her participation was in the Gj hearing she attended- remember hearsay rule applies!

All I can think of about Kaine is that he doesn't want to be associated with someone whom he is accusing of uncooperative behavior.  Either he feels guilty about throwing her under the bus, or just is covering his own... anatomy -- but that's just my theory.

Not sure I completely understand your last question about the GJ...  she was not asked any questions by the grand jury, except about whether she would return in August, to which she immediately agreed.  I have a theory (another theory, yes) that the GJ subpoena was Norm's way of making sure she was in town over that weekend.  He gave her name to KH and DY on 7/22 (thursday), and they released their letter to the media.  At that point the media frenzy began, and she would have liked to get out of town to avoid it, but the GJ summons was for Monday 7/27 which made it pretty impractical to go anywhere.  Either way, she was ready to answer anything they asked her.

Re: the immunity issue, which has been floating around -- the DA's office DID offer her immunity if she had anything to tell them about Kyron's disappearance, but she just doesn't have anything.  She's not "holding out" for an offer of immunity because she has nothing to trade for it.

Hope this answers your question?  Let me know if not!
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« Reply #34 on: August 22, 2015, 01:01:48 PM »

Thanks Karma.  The following SM forum link will reveal your posting of Flymonkey's response to Monkey King's query.


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« Reply #474 on: September 24, 2010, 05:34:23 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8591.msg1235514#msg1235514
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« Reply #35 on: August 22, 2015, 01:09:26 PM »

I read all 95 posts of flymonkey's.
Then went back and noted dates,times flymonkey posted.Just about all the posts were anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes apart with a few exceptions....I'm not sure what I'm trying to say lol but I think I now know who flymonkey was.....but I'm not saying.
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« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2015, 01:13:35 PM »


Well that was very interesting,thank you Tamikosmom.

I found the below post interesting.Doesn't dear Dede now have immunity?If so....wonder what she "traded"for it?

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Karma ... the following is my theory.

Janet

DEDE SPICHER

Could it be that in the summer of 2013 ... Dede's attorney and the DA did finally reached a plea deal?  Dede would be afforded immunity from prosecution in exchange for the truth regarding not only Dede's participation but also the participation of others as it pertained to the secreting of Kyron Horman.

Could it be that the truth WAS affirmed via a polygraph and a GJ testimony?

Could it be that there was another condition linked to Dede's plea deal?  Could it be that Dede's cooperation was required in subtly affording Terri's attorney with a heads-up that his  client had been busted?  Logic dictates that Dede's alleged immunity plea deal revelation in the interview would raise a red flag that Stephen Houze could not ignore?

Could it be that LE anticipated that the revealed immunity deal would motivate Terri's attorney to conclude that a negotiated plea deal would be in the best interest of his client prior to THE indictment against Terri coming down ... THE indictment that Dede's own attorney referenced?  In other words ... the strategy hopefully would convince Houze if the Kyron Horman case went to trial that Dede ... the friend Terri had not spoken to in three years ... would testify on behalf of the Prosecution?

It makes sense that the major networks and other media outlets were bending over backwards for their own exclusive with Dede following the August 2013 Blink interview.  Think about it. There has not been a peep from Dede over the past two years.  Why?

Could it be that this wannabe detective suspects a conspiracy where there is none?

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« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2015, 01:20:52 PM »

Thanks Karma.  The following SM forum link will reveal your posting of Flymonkey's response to Monkey King's query.


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« Reply #474 on: September 24, 2010, 05:34:23 PM »

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8591.msg1235514#msg1235514
Hi Janet
Yes,that was the post that I was referring to with flymonkey stating that if dede had something to trade with LE to get immunity.I believe dede now has immunity(yes?no?)so I was wondering what info she traded to get it.Also,when clicking on flymonkey name it shows last post September 2013 but this list of 94 posts shows her last post in October 2010?I'm not seeing a post from 9/2013.
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« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2015, 01:22:49 PM »

THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM - THE IMPLICATION?

Wishful thinking?  Maybe but ... could it be that that an indictment is forthcoming in the Kyron Horman Case?  Think about it.  Kaine's website went "poof" a couple of weeks ago and despite the upcoming search it has been almost a month since the last Gofundme update ... the Gofundme page maintained by Desiree's sister.

http://bringkyronhome.org/

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman
 

Lots of Progress Recently

Desiree Young - July 20, 2015


"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater


The September Search?

Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015


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In September, Young is planning another search.

She hopes to bring in 15 tracking and cadaver dog teams from Washington, Idaho, California and Florida to search in the Portland area, but wouldn't say where. She's organized several other searches in the past. ....

Young said she's coordinating the search with the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office, but said the agency wouldn't take part. She plans to keep searching until every inch of territory is covered.

"There are so many different areas that have to be searched thoroughly," Young said. "It's a big canvas. There is no way that law enforcement can do that."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html
I really hope so!
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« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2015, 01:24:27 PM »

I read all 95 posts of flymonkey's.
Then went back and noted dates,times flymonkey posted.Just about all the posts were anywhere from 10 to 20 minutes apart with a few exceptions....I'm not sure what I'm trying to say lol but I think I now know who flymonkey was.....but I'm not saying.


Karma ... the SM discussion forum in the month that Flymonkey posted will reveal that there were Monkeys who were suspicious that Dede and Flymonkey were one.


Flymonkey - September 18, 2010 - Reply #889

Hope I'm doing this right... I guess I'm the newest Monkey.  I figured I would jump in here because I've been a "fly on the wall" on this forum for several weeks now, and that's one reason I became "FlyMonkey!"  I am here because I am a friend of DeDe Spicher, and if I can offer you all any information about her I would be happy to do so.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8508.msg1231248#msg1231248


Flymonkey - September 22, 2010 - Reply #154

Hi Monkeys.  I see that you are all SURE that I am DeDe, but I don't care enough about proving you wrong to reveal anything personal about myself.  Let me just say that I am at least a few hundred miles away from DeDe right now and just a friend of hers, as I said before.

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=8591.msg1234020#msg1234020

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