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« Reply #300 on: April 27, 2016, 12:42:25 PM »

A THEORY IN A NUTSHELL

The Secreting of Kyron Horman?

Friday, June 4, 2010


1.  Terri convinces Kaine that his white pick up truck is required to bring Kyron's science project home from school.

2.  Terri leaves home with Kyron and Kiara.

3.  Dede is picked up at a prearranged location on the way to Skyline.

4.  Dede's vehicle vehicle is parked out of sight.  

5.  Terri, Kiara, Kyron and Dede arrive at Skyline.

6.  Terri parks in front of the school.

7.  Terri, Kiara and Kyron head directly to the classroom where photos of Kyron and Kurtis are taken with their respective science projects.

8.  DeDe moves the white pick up truck from the front of the school to a side exit.

9.  Upon exiting the classroom following the photo-take Kyron's jacket and backpack are intentionally left behind on his desk.

10. Terri, Kyron and Kiara leave the school through a side exit where Dede is waiting in the white pick up truck.

11. Terri drives the short distance to where Dede had left her vehicle earlier.

12. At some period in time Kyron is administered a sleeping pill.

13. Terri drives to two Fred Meyers stores in an attempt to establish an alibi ... leaving a sleeping Kyron in the pick up at both locations.  

14. Dede drives to her place of employment ... parks her vehicle leaving cell phone behind and ... makes her presence known.

15. After establishing alibis Terri picks up Dede at her place of employment.

16. Terri drives with Dede, Kyron and Kiara to Sauvie Island.

17. At a prearranged location ... prearranged through Dede's child advocate ex-boyfriend ... a sleeping Kyron is passed to an unknown participant who has connections to a network that secrets children at risk to safe houses.

18. Terri drives directly to the gym to establish an alibi leaving Dede in the pick up.

19. Terri drives Dede back to her place of employment prior to driving home.


The Implications?

1.  Could it be that Dede and her child advocate ex-boyfriend as well as Terri do not know who Kyron was passed to and they do not know where a secreted Kyron was taken?

2.  Could it be that Kyron is alive and well?

3.  Could it be that attorneys of Dede and her child advocate ex-boyfriend have negotiated immunity deals with the prosecutor for their respective clients in exchange for the truth as well as GJ testimonies ... the truth that has been confirmed through polygraphs ... the truth that will be revealed in respective witness testimonies at an upcoming trial?

4.  Could it be that both Dede's child advocate ex-boyfriend's 2010 open letter to the Oregonian and Dede's 2013 BOC interview revealing an immunity deal were all about cooperating with investigators with the intention of sending Terri's attorney an underlying message that his client had been busted?
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« Reply #301 on: April 27, 2016, 12:54:30 PM »

FOOD FOR THOUGHT

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


Desiree Young - January 20, 2016

"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day.  She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that.  Terri hasn't been the only focus.  Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision.  We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline.  We know who did this.  We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."
http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt
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« Reply #302 on: April 27, 2016, 01:20:14 PM »

THE KYRON HORMAN CASE - THE SECRETING OF KYRON?

Could the probability that Kyron Horman has been secreted to a safe location be the reason that a sealed indictment has not been served on Terri Horman after almost six years?  In other words ... behind the scenes ... investigative dots are still being connected with the objective of locating a secreted Kyron and bringing him home?


Reading Between the Lines

1.  According to Kaine


October 25, 2010:  "I believe that Respondent has harmed or secreted Kyron.''
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html

October 25, 2010:  19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

June 3, 2011:  "In light of something not breaking, coming forward quickly, this is going to be a marathon, not a sprint.  This could go on for two, three, four years, potentially without closure."
http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kyron-1-year-anniversary-123042478.html

May 30, 2015:  "She has become a dead end as far as making progress,  Someone else was involved. There's someone we don't know about."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_case_as_5th_anniv.html

June 2, 2015:  "Somebody else is involved with his disappearance and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are."
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/

June 2, 2015:  "You know they've done a lot of due diligence in the searching around here and as the searches continue and nothing is found the probability goes up that he is still out there and he's with somebody else."
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/

June 3, 2015:  "I would call it a belief because to me hope is passive. Hope is, 'Gosh, I don't know what will happen, I sure hope it turns out well,' as opposed to, I believe he is alive. It's a much different statement."
http://www.katu.com/news/investigators/Five-years-later-why-Kyron-Hormans-dad-believes-hes-alive-305768091.html

June 4, 2015:  "He’s potentially either in the area with someone or even outside our area with someone else. ....  I’d almost call it a belief.  Hope to me is good, but it’s also kind of uncertain.”
http://koin.com/2015/06/04/kaine-horman-on-kyron-terri-life-after-5-years/

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« Reply #303 on: April 27, 2016, 04:51:19 PM »

THE KYRON HORMAN CASE - THE SECRETING OF KYRON? (Continued)

Reading Between the Lines

2.  According to Desiree


June 29, 2010:  "I believe that he s stashed I believe it's the investigation that's going to lead us [to him]."
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11755380/

November 15, 2010:  "It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron. ..."
http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247

June 21, 2014:  “We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.”
http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/

July 11, 2014:  "DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first. The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516

May 21, 2015:  "Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?  I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971

May 29, 2015:  " .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ...
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055

June 4, 2015: "It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."
http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko

June 4, 2015:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance

November 25, 2015:  Video (1:24)  "He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out THE SIDE ENTRANCE of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school."
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/



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« Reply #304 on: April 27, 2016, 04:52:44 PM »

THE KYRON HORMAN CASE - THE SECRETING OF KYRON? (Continued)

Reading Between the Lines

3.  According to Multnomah County Sheriff's Office


July 30, 2013:  “The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office is unable to comment on specifics of the investigation but would like to reiterate its commitment to finding and bringing Kyron home and bringing closure to Kyron’s family and the investigation. ...."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/

May 28, 2015: ".... The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and our agency partners in this investigation remain committed to solving this crime, and bringing Kyron home. ...."
http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2015-05/1276/84881/KH_Missing_PR.pdf

4.  According to BOC

July 6, 2010:  44. .... I still maintain she (Terri) herself did not physically harm Kyron.  Was she responsible in some fashion regardless, I am gonna say yep. B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/06/kyron-horman-case-the-path-from-suspect-to-defendant-is-forged/comment-page-2/#comments

August 4, 2010:  2. .... Technically she (Dede) has a form of immunity for whatever she testified to. That would have been crafted by the state accordingly, and is my belief is the reason she was not asked any questions last week."  B"  
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-21/#comments

September 4, 2013:  .... The Capone tactic for a woman that took the job with the understanding that it was not a paid endeavor and when Ms. Hockensmith told Spicher she wanted to compensate her she declined.  Hockensmith insisted.

On this basis, DeDe was advised to and agreed to an immunity deal.   The terms of which are under seal and Spicher nixed discussing citing a verbal agreement she made until such time as it is unsealed.

A source inside the investigation who does not wish to be identified as they are not authorized to speak publicly on the case- has confirmed that Spicher’s agreement includes provisions that she continue to cooperate with law enforcement as needed, be available to testify in any proceedings, and to take a polygraph. ....
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/
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« Reply #305 on: April 27, 2016, 04:53:49 PM »

THE KYRON HORMAN CASE - THE SECRETING OF KYRON? (Continued)

Reading Between the Lines

5.  According to Dede's Former Boyfriend


The Letter - August 18, 2010

Excerpts:


"I suspect that sometime after we broke-up on August 1st, 2009, DeDe reconnected with Terri and Terri found DeDe to be a good listener, provided sound feedback and possibly provided each other with emotional respite. This cultivated to gaining DeDe’s trust and support."

"Terri may have told DeDe some story that Kyron was in danger and that Kaine was a bad dad and husband and that she needed to find a safe place for Kyron for a few days while she was dealing with Kaine in some way that would produce a long term solution."

"If DeDe is indeed involved, she probably thought she was helping protect Kyron and that she was somehow doing an act of child advocacy as well as helping a friend get out of a bad and unsafe situation."

"I believe in my heart that Kyron is still alive and stashed at a safe house. The DeDe that I knew very well for 10 months would have no part of harm to a child or getting rid of abody, no way."

"I am a child advocate who has more volunteer time helping endangered and displaced Multnomah county children than any other man out there. I care more than anyone can realize and pray hard for Kyron’s safe return."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/dede_spichers_former_boyfriend.html


Internet Postings - August 2010

Excerpts:


"I have learned that she is waiting for the DA to offer her immunity to testify about what she knows and her involvement."

"I am convinced that Kyron is at a safe house somewhere far away.

"I am not giving anyone false hope by saying this, Kyron is alive and we will remember the day he is united with his family like the people of the sixties remember the day of the Kennedy assassination. I pray everyday without interruption for God to guide and direct the investigators to Kyron's location."

"I possess no inside information from investigators, rather I am reading the cards on the table from what I know of DeDe and the investigation and what has been reported in the media and internet. It takes a special kind of evil to kill an innocent child and I feel that at least DeDe would never do such a thing, rather cooperate with a good friend if the story she was told was plausable enough."

"DeDe presented to be a trusting person and just didnt hang out with "the wrong crowd" so to speak."

"How would a kidnapping scenario play out??? They would have a network of people taking Kyron out of state for unknown reasons, but a well thought out explanation for Kyron and the others involved."

"It was depriving Kane of his precious son that was the motivation here, not killing Kyron."

"I suspect that everyone involved knows know that they are in such huge trouble, facing multiple felonies and decades in prison, they are trying to save their tails and allowing LE to prove that they are involved."

Read more:
http://www.realitychatter.com/t2666-jw-name-removed-initials-only-please



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« Reply #306 on: April 27, 2016, 04:55:25 PM »

TERRI HORMAN - SEXTING

Within three weeks of Kyron's June 4, 2010 disappearance and within two days of Kaine's departure from the home with Kiara and a restraining order served ... a restraining order denying Terri contact with her daughter ... Terri's June 30, 2010 conduct implies that she lacks a conscience ... she lacks empathy ... she is narcissistic.  The implication? Kaine is right.  The truth will never be forthcoming from Terri.

Kaine Horman - June 4, 2015

“ .... I know there’s involvement, we’re not going to get help down that path. I’ve just kind of left that behind a long time ago.”
http://koin.com/2015/06/04/kaine-horman-on-kyron-terri-life-after-5-years/

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October 25, 2010 - Emotionally Disturbed

Kaine Horman calls his estranged wife 'severely emotionally disturbed,' releases more texts between Terri Horman and Michael Cook
October 25, 2010


Kaine Horman argued in court files today that his estranged wife, Terri Moulton Horman, is an "emotionally disturbed individual focused on her own needs rather than the needs of Kiara or my missing Kyron." ....

He included as exhibits back-and-forth text messages between Terri Horman and his high school friend, Michael Cook, in which his estranged wife wonders if she's "going to get any ever again....," and sent photos of her breast and of her masturbating.

"It is deeply concerning that while Kyron was missing and the media was trying to assist us, Respondent was engaged in such behavior,'' Kaine Horman wrote in his affidavit.

Kaine Horman said the text messages continued after she was forced out of their home on Northwest Sheltered Nook Road.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/horman-affair.pdf

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/redacted-text-messages.PDF


October 27, 2010 - Fugly Coping

Kyron Horman Missing: Kaine And Terri Horman Face Off In Family Court
Posted by Christina Stoy
Thursday 7 October 2010 11:24 pm


18. .... October 27, 2010 at 9:54 pm

It is just sickening. The matter of whether or not she is involved in Kyron’s disappearance aside, given her disassociative activities while her 7 year old step-son was missing, and her apparent Fugly coping, I would not let her my child under any set of circumstances.  Rackner will prevail, even though I think there were parts of her motion that could harm her own client.  Less is more. B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/comment-page-29/


January 22, 2016 - No Excuses

Terri Horman - ABC Nightline Interview - January 22, 2016


Overview:  For the first time Horman is speaking out about her failed polygraphs; her whereabouts that fateful day and why she was sexting another man during the investigation.

Interviewer:  "Let's face it.  Your stepson is still missing.  Your are in the midst of all this scrutiny and you are sexting with some random guy.  It doesn't look good."

Terri Horman:  "No it doesn't.  I am not going to make an excuse for it.  I'm going to own up to it." ....   (Video: .30)
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/terri-horman-purpose-find-son-36465437
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« Reply #307 on: April 28, 2016, 09:35:03 PM »

 




Desiree Young - May 31, 2015

"It doesn't get easier with time.  I still wake up crying and praying, hoping today will be the day."


http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html
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« Reply #308 on: May 04, 2016, 04:10:02 PM »

A Severe Hatred

Desiree Young - November 15, 2010


On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron)

Desiree: "It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron."
http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247


Desiree Young - February 2, 2011

"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop


Kaine Horman - November 19, 2010

Reporter: Have you seen the emails that are being talked about where Terri allegedly talks about hurting Kyron?

Kaine: Yeah, well, I, I've seen them. Yes.

Reporter: What is in those emails?

Kaine: I'm not gonna talk about it. It's information that's supposed to be confidential to the investigation, and...
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-kyrons-dad-points-finger-stepmom-12189940?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=11128091&page=1
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« Reply #309 on: May 05, 2016, 12:51:51 PM »

In 2012 what investigative foundation was the judge who referred to Terri as a Prime Suspect in the Kyron Horman case privy to?

In 2014 the judge ruled it was not in the public's best interest if Terri were to be granted a name change. Why?

Terri's recent move from Oregon to California?  When Kiara is considered ... why?

When THE indictment against Terri that Dede's attorney referred to in July 2010 is served ... extradition from California is a given.  THE indictment against Terri?  What investigative foundation was Chad Stavely privy to?  What revelation did Dede share with her attorney ... share with investigators ... in regards to the disappearance of Kyron ... revelation that convinced him that Terri's arrest was probable?

Maxine Bernstein's January 9, 2016 overview in the Oregonlive is a good read.

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THE Indictment

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
Posted on July 26, 2010 at 12:09 PM


.... Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavley said. "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down." ....

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html


Prime Suspect?

Judge calls stepmother 'prime suspect' in Kyron Horman case
August 21, 2012

http://www.king5.com/news/Judge-calls-stepmother-prime-suspect-in-Kyron-Horman-case-166981086.html

http://media.king5.com/documents/kyron+judge+doc+821.pdf


The Move?

Terri Horman, stepmom of missing Kyron Horman, moved to California, state records show
January 9, 2016

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/01/terri_horman_stepmom_of_missin.html

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« Reply #310 on: May 07, 2016, 12:02:24 PM »

UNIFIED IN A CAUSE

Could it be that regardless of issues that divide them ... behind the scenes Desiree and Kaine are connecting when it pertains to the investigation into the disappearance of their son.

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DESIREE

KTVL CBS 10 News, Medford
January 21, 2016

 
Here's part one of our Special Report, sit down interview with Desiree Young. In the interview she address claims made by Terri Horman in her PEOPLE Magazine article, the first interview she's given since Kyron disappeared.

DESIREE: (Video 3:55) I am grateful.  I am glad we have been able to keep Kiara away from her. I am glad that Kiara has a stable life ... stable as it can be considering the circumstances.
https://www.facebook.com/180780400322/videos/10156473491155323/?fref=nf


KAINE

Kaine, MCSO committed to ‘bringing Kyron home’
July 30, 2013


Kaine Horman held a news conference Tuesday afternoon at the Wall of Hope, just hours after the mother of missing Kyron Horman said she dropped a civil suit that may have been keeping the boy’s stepmother, Terri Horman, from revealing what she knows about his disappearance.

We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case,” Horman said to reporters around 3:15 p.m. He said law enforcement is “again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that." ...

During Tuesday’s press conference, Kaine Horman did express disappointment over Desiree Young’s dropped civil suit.

“At the same time,” Horman said, “trying to press forward to find Kyron and protect my daughter are the two things that are in the highest priorities.” The daughter’s mother is Terri Horman.

<snipped>

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/
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« Reply #311 on: May 07, 2016, 12:33:09 PM »

Kyron's parents?  The 2015 outreach by the Sheriff's Office, Desiree and Kaine convince me that they are all on the same page.  Could it be that Desiree's words imply that behind the scenes dots are being connected in regards to evidence and witnesses for the prosecution?  Could it be that an indictment will forthcoming sooner than later?

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THE SAME PAGE?

Sheriff Staton - May 28, 2015


".... The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and our agency partners in this investigation remain committed to solving this crime, and bringing Kyron home. The Sheriff’s Office is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the resolution of his disappearance. If you have information that will help us locate Kyron, please contact us through the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office tip line at 503-261-2847."

http://www.flashalertnewswire.net/images/news/2015-05/1276/84881/KH_Missing_PR.pdf


Kaine Horman - June 3, 2015

According to the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office and District Attorney's Office, more than 4,000 tips have come in. Kaine said there's a big push to re-interview people detectives initially talked with and expand those interviews beyond what happened on or around June 4, 2010.

He's hoping neighbors, anyone in the community who knew the Hormans -- will reach out to investigators via the tip-line (503-261-2847) and offer to be re-interviewed about the case. He said there's already been instances in which re-interviews have brought forward new tips they didn't have on file.

http://www.katu.com/news/investigators/Five-years-later-why-Kyron-Hormans-dad-believes-hes-alive-305768091.html


Desiree Young - July 20, 2015

"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case.  This is very good because you remember things after five years.  And people come forward who were previously scared.  Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater


Justice for Kyron Horman!!

UPDATE #114 - July, 2015


The time has come for us to be more aggressive so we can really narrow down our search areas, but in order for us to do that we need all the tips that got called in to the tip line. If you had any sort of tip as to Kyron or Terri’s whereabouts the week prior to June 4th, on June 4th, 2010, or suspicious behavior following Kyron’s disappearance we need to know about it. Please send an e-mail to tips4kyron @ yahoo. com with details on what you saw or heard so that we can get in contact with you. This needs to be done so we can find him. He deserves for us to find him. 5 years is too long, the wait has been too long. It’s time for us to be more aggressive in narrowing our search areas and we cannot do that without your tips. If you know of anyone that does not follow one of Kyron’s Facebook sites and has a tip please pass this info along. The sooner we get the tips the sooner we can accomplish our goal. Thank you so much for all of your support! Tips4kyron @ yahoo. com

https://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


Reminder

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013


"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/
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« Reply #312 on: May 07, 2016, 12:49:27 PM »

APRIL 10, 2016

Stay tuned?

A message from Desiree, Kyron's Momma. 💕

Everybody stay tuned, I have been working hard on Kyron's Pad. We have gotten so much growth this year from the added water that the Clematis vines have quadrupled in size. We bought some new bark and other garden items for decor. As soon as the rest of the flowers bloom, I will post some updated photos for you'all. We love you Ky. Wish you were here to help with the rake and shovel, you're such a good helper.
https://m.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/pb.161645780592018.-2207520000.1460719265./989047047851883/?type=3




Luke 8:17
"For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all."
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« Reply #313 on: May 07, 2016, 12:56:48 PM »

MOTHER'S DAY - MAY 8, 2016

From Desiree:


As I sit here on another Mothers Day missing my Kyron, wishing he was sitting next to my side watching morning cartoons, like he has done so many times, I've decided to share with you. My Kyron supporters don't get to see the things that I've done to feel closer to Kyron everyday. The view out our bedroom window is one of my motivations and it centers me everyday. This is what I get to look at each morning when I wake up. We have been blessed with a lot of extra water this year and the flowers in Kyron's Pad have grown and gotten so big. The Clematis vines have quadrupled in size and have now made the bench their very own. Luckily I'm okay with sharing. I did buy my usual annuals that are special for Kyron, we dressed it up a bit with some new bark, and if you all look close you'll see some red hearts throughout. We decided to give the creek a little sparkle this year. Kyron is watching over our newest additions of ground cover to make sure they come back next year too. I love you my Kyron. Always remember the hope, faith and love when you see Kyron's Pad, that's what it represents. And when we go to bed, at night, the lights are on and it takes on an entirely different and beautiful look. It's a promise to keep going no matter what, never giving up, always here fighting for you my baby. I am your Mamma and I will never stop.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1005817506174837&id=161645780592018


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« Reply #314 on: May 08, 2016, 06:48:15 PM »

Justice for Kyron Horman!

UPDATE #121

MAY 8, 2016

7 HOURS AGO


June 4, 2010 is the day that Kyron disappeared and our nightmare began. It has been five years now and we still don't know where Kyron is. Our hearts were broken the day the unthinkable happened, a day there is no moving on from. Each day we live with the unknown, while silently praying today is the day he comes home to us. Our nightmare will not end until Kyron is home.

For the past five years, people have come together in support of Kyron and our family and we ask for your continued support. As we are standing together we ask you to stand with us. Fight for the little boy who has touched so many hearts. Help us bring Kyron home.

Initially this site was set up for donations to help with the civil suit Desiree filed against Terri Horman in the disappearance of our Kyron. While she still believes Terri has the answers we so desperately seek, it was in Kyron's best interest that the civil suit was withdrawn. However, this does not mean we are giving up or going away. We will do whatever it takes to bring Kyron home to us. Donations to this site will now be used in our continued search to bring Kyron home.

(This site is monitored by Kelly Ramirez, Desiree Young's sister.)

We Promise We Will Find You.
We Will Never Stop!

https://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


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« Reply #315 on: May 09, 2016, 08:28:27 PM »

A MEASURE OF JUSTICE ... A MEASURE OF CLOSURE?

Desiree Young - September, 2013

"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."
http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


AN IMPENDING MCSO REORGANIZATION? - THE IMPLICATIONS

Could it be that ....

1.  ... an impending reorganization/shakeup within the MCSO implies the Kyron Horman investigation under another Sheriff will take a different path as it pertains to transparency ... as it pertains to an indictment?

2.  ... official press releases and official press conferences revealing the happenings and gathered circumstantial evidence will be forthcoming ... happenings and circumstantial evidence that both Desiree and Kaine have alluded to over the past for almost six years?

3.  ... an indictment against Terri that was sealed at the get-go will be served?

4.  ... moving forward those who participated on June 4, 2010 in the secreting of the 7 year old son of Kaine and Desiree will either testify as witnesses for the prosecution in an upcoming trial or be held criminally accountable?

5.  ... along with testimonies from prosecution witnesses ... circumstantial evidence will be expanded upon and presented to a jury?

BOTTOM LINE ... Whether or not the whereabouts of secreted Kyron is determined ... could it be that under Sheriff Dan Staton's replacement the case will move forward and there will be a measure of justice ... a measure of closure?




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« Reply #316 on: May 11, 2016, 11:58:11 AM »

THE KYRON HORMAN INVESTIGATION

Desiree Young - September, 2013

"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."
http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


NO DISCONNECT

When the time lapse since Kyron's disappearance is considered ... could it be that Desiree's 2014 frustration was not about the investigation per say but ... it was all about MSCO ... at some point without a resolution ... not willing to let go by turning over the Kyron Horman case case file and the gathered circumstantial evidence to the FBI agency for review?

Think about it.  Given the opportunity ... the expertise within the FBI agency may successfully connect the dots regarding the whereabouts of a secreted Kyron.

Think about it.  Given the opportunity ... the expertise within the FBI agency may successfully convince Terri that it would be in her best long term interest to come forward and reveal the truth pertaining to her involvement leading up to the disappearance of Kyron.

BOTTOM LINE ... Could it be that Desiree's 2013 words (see above quote) imply that she believes that at some point in time the prosecution of Terri should be a given whether or not Kyron is found?

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2014 - Frustration with MCSO

Desiree Young on Terri Horman: 'She still hasn't told us where she was that day'
June 04, 2014


Desiree Young, Kyron Horman's biological mother, said her mission is to keep the pressure on Terri Horman by sharing new details about the case, and she shared these new details without the blessing of investigators.

"They might be upset with me. And you know, I would like them to sit in my shoes and walk the walk and be here four years later," she said.

<snipped>

She knows resources are stretched thin, but she's frustrated with Multnomah County investigators.

She claimed the sheriff's office turned away offers for outside help, but a sheriff's office spokesman said that's not true.

"When you get egos involved and you start not accepting help from other agencies because your ego might get bruised if they solve the case, you're shooting yourself in the foot," Young said.

Young said four years without answers and without her son have been a nightmare, and she refuses to be in this same position in another four years.

"They're not going to prosecute Terri until they find Kyron. And that's why it's my mission. I am going to find answers. I am going to find Kyron if I have to do it myself," she said.

Terri Horman has never been charged in the case or even called an official suspect.

Multnomah County officials said Kyron Horman's case is still active and they cannot comment on it.
http://www.kptv.com/story/25691574/desiree-young-on-terri-horman-she-still-hasnt-told-us-where-she-was-that-day





2016 - Law Enforcement Upheld

Desiree Young says Terri Horman's interview made 'her heart hurt'
January 20, 2016


"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day," said Young. "She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that."

<snipped>

"Terri hasn't been the only focus," said Young. "Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision. We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline."
http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt



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« Reply #317 on: May 13, 2016, 05:24:07 PM »

THE UNCHALLENGED RESTRAINING ORDER

When the recently revealed internal conflicts within the MCSO are considered and ... when Terri's almost six year proclamation of innocence is considered ... why is Stephen Houze ... Terri's $350,000 up front attorney ... not demanding that the FBI review the Kyron Horman case file ... the Kyron Horman case file that allegedly contains evidence that justified the June 2010 restraining order that has preventing his client from any contact with her daughter?

Why has attorney and client not done the talk show circuit?

Why has Stephen Houze not followed through with legal challenges to the restraining order?  Why does his client plead the Fifth?

Why has Terri not met the conditions of a 2014 agreement with Kaine ... a 2014 agreement that would have afforded her eventual contact and supervised visitation with Kiara?

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2010

IF SHE WERE MY CLIENT ...

Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Kaine Horman Files For Restraining Order And Divorce From Terri Horman
Posted by Christina Stoy | Tuesday 29 June 2010 7:39 am

39. ... June 29, 2010 at 4:47 pm


I said earlier today, I will be floored if she does not give a very high profile interview through, or with her attorney by tommorrow, Wednesday at the latest.  IF she were my Client, and she was innocent of any direct involvement in Kyron’s disappearance, she would be on every major network tomorrow morning and then the evening junket Thursday.  Unless of course she is, as we call in the biz, “a bad show” regardless of uninvolvement.  In which case, her attorney would be doing the interviews on her behalf citing investigative integrity concerns.  If she does not, I fully expect her to be arrested for something before the weeks end.  B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/29/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-kaine-horman-files-for-restraining-order-and-divorce-from-terri-horman/comment-page-3/#comments


LEVEL OF CULPABILITY?  ADVISED BY COUNSEL TO ZIP IT?

Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Kaine Horman Files For Restraining Order And Divorce From Terri Horman
Posted by Christina Stoy | Tuesday 29 June 2010 7:39 am

42. ...  June 30, 2010 at 6:35 pm


If this woman does not have counsel, or secured counsel “in the process” I will lose all my faith in the land of opportunistic defense attorneys looking for the biggest case of their careers.  I say that respectfully, as some of my best friends are… (you know the drill)  And then, I will speculate that she has a level of culpability and has been advised by counsel to zip it, as they are looking to mount a mental defence.  Counsel will not be an issue in this case, and frankly, the tactic of allowing others to speak for her is a grave mistake. B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/29/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-kaine-horman-files-for-restraining-order-and-divorce-from-terri-horman/comment-page-5/


THERE HAS TO BE MORE

Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered Sources: Terri Horman Hired Landscape Lover
Posted by blinkoncrimestaff | Sunday 4 July 2010 2:30 pm

49. .... July 4, 2010 at 5:05 pm


He did not come forward, he was identified through investigative means.  I am very concerned about this association, and the timeliness of this leak.

Also, how does one get an emergency custody order based on an unverified witness statement?  They Don’t. There has to be more. If they could prove the accurracy of the Landscapers statemnents, she would be arrested on a solicitation charge.  B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/04/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-sources-terri-horman-hired-landscape-lover/comment-page-1/#comments


THE POLICE - PROBABLE CAUSE

Kaine Horman - July 8, 2010


"I believe the respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010. I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probably cause to believe the above two statements are true."
http://www.kptv.com/news/24186798/detail.html

http://www.kptv.com/download/2010/0708/24186795.pdf


SOMEONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO TELL ME ...

Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Terri Horman Leaves The House
Posted by Christina Stoy | Friday 16 July 2010 6:15 pm

26. .... July 26, 2010 at 2:52 pm


"Houze has one objective, to zealously represent/defend his Client, who, has not been charged in this case.  Someone is going to have to tell me how one arrives at a $350K retainer for an innocent person."  B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/16/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-terri-horman-leaves-the-house/comment-page-24/#comments


THERE'S A DISCONNECT

Kyron Horman Missing: Kaine And Terri Horman Face Off In Family Court
Posted by Christina Stoy | Thursday 7 October 2010 11:24 pm


Following this afternoon’s legal melee, blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief asked prominent Washington State Family Law Attorney, Lea Conner, to weigh in:

.... There’s a disconnect between Mr. Bunch’s argument that Ms. Horman cannot defend herself because she would incriminate herself in the disappearance of her stepson, and his statement that “If Mr. Horman is really interested in what‘s best for the child, then Mr. Horman wouldn’t object to any visitation by this child’s mother.

The apparent logic is that Ms. Horman admits that if she speaks, she will incriminate herself in some as-yet-to-be-named crime related to Kyron’s disappearance, yet Mr. Horman is now supposed to trust her to care for his other child, because that’s so obviously in their daughter’s best interest. ....
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/


CIRCUIT JUDGES - PROBABLE CAUSE

Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


TERRI PLEADS THE FIFTH

Terri Moulton Horman drops motion seeking parenting time with Kiara
November 03, 2010


.... Terri Moulton Horman's attorneys have withdrawn their motion seeking parenting time for their client with her daughter after her estranged husband's lawyer informed them that they would face extensive discovery, "multiple depositions" and subpoenas for their client's medical records. ....

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/terri_moulton_horman_withdraws.html


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« Reply #318 on: May 15, 2016, 03:10:52 PM »

THE UNCHALLENGED RESTRAINING ORDER (Continued)

2013


TERRI MOTIONS FOR VISITATION RIGHTS

Hearing examines details of Horman divorce case
Friday, September 13, 2013


<snipped>

Also under review Friday was a motion by Terri to have visitation rights with her daughter. In June, a judge renewed a restraining order original filed by Kaine in June 2010 against his estranged wife that does not allow her contact with him or their now 4-year-old daughter Kiara. On July 8, the same day that Terri subpoenaed O’Donnell, Terri also filed a motion contesting the restraining order.

In its response, on July 13 Kaine’s attorney Peter Engel issued a motion for protective order. In it he wrote:

“Ms. Horman has been in seclusion for three years. She refuses to cooperate with law enforcement.  She intends to exercise her privilege against self-incrimination. She has not contested the FAPA Order since it was originally issued in June of 2010. She has chosen to forego a relationship with the parties’ daughter Kiara, now four years old. Yet, she now expects to conduct one-sided discovery in a single day of depositions, and have a hearing, all while the case is stayed.”

<snipped>

http://www.koin.com/2013/09/13/hearing-over-horman-divorce-proceedings/


TERRI'S MOTION FOR VISITATION RIGHTS WITHDRAWN

Terri Horman withdraws visitation request for daughter
October 30, 2013


An attorney for Terri Moulton Horman has filed a motion to withdraw her request for visitation of her young daughter.Judge Meisenheimer s office confirms the motion was filed on Tuesday. ....

In Monday's filing, Terri's attorney states the withdrawl of the motion for visitation is in no way an agreement to maintain the status quo regarding the estranged couple's daughter, and that Terri does not, and will not, give up her right to seek legal custody of their daughter. ....

According to Terri's attorney, the motion to withdraw was being filed to avoid litigation that is destructive to the parties and their daughter, despite very deep and great reluctance, and with grave concern about their daughter's short-term development and long-term well-being.

<snipped>

http://legacy.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11781062/


2014

KAINE OBJECTS TO VISITATION RIGHTS


Brett E. Engel - Legal Briefing - February 10, 2014

Court Documents for 2-14-14

Page 3

" ... There is a trial scheduled for June 11, 2014 on the issue of what parenting schedule is in the best interests of Kiara Horman, age 5.  Father will ask the court to deny parenting time between Kiara and her Mother because Mother presents a credible threat to the health and safety of Kiara.  Father will offer testimony from Rodolfo Sanchez that (a) Mother solicited Sanchez's help to kill Father several months before the disappearance of Father's non joint child Kyron and (b) Mother sought to kill Father so she would not lose custody of joint child Kiara. ...."  

Page 8-9

" ...Mother would have this court believe that she has no options, and having Sanchez testify regarding the "meeting" is the only way she can show parenting time with Kiara is appropriate. Nothing could be further from the truth. There were apparently two people present at the "meeting". Mother and Mr. Sanchez. Sanchez is precluded from testifying about the meeting because the meeting is privileged. Mother is not prevented from testifying about the meeting and could so if she did not choose her right against self-incrimination over her right to explain what may have transpired at the meeting. Father's right should not be impacted because Mother is choosing her right to remain silent over her ability to present testimony that rebuts the Sanchez testimony.  A litigant's decision to invoke the Fifth Amendment again self-incrimination is not without adverse consequences for the litigant. ...."

Dated this 10th Day of February
Brett E. Engel .....

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Rudy Sanchez - Deposition
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Emergency%20Hearing%20Motion.pdf


THE AGREEMENT - CONDITIONS

Kaine Horman awarded custody of daughter; Terri Horman to have strictly-supervised visits eventually
June 4, 2014


Kaine Horman has been awarded the custody of his daughter, Kiara, and ex-wife Terri Moulton Horman will have strictly supervised visits with the girl under a detailed "reintegration plan,'' according to a settlement signed Tuesday.

The plan calls for Kiara Ariel Horman, 5, to be enrolled in counseling with a developmental specialist "willing to facilitate the child's relationship with Mother,'' the settlement said.

Terri Horman's initial contact will the couple's daughter will be through an exchange of letters and cards, progress to videoconferencing and then supervised visits. The visits will not exceed twice a month.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/06/kaine_horman_awarded_custody_o.html

Custody Agreement
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf


2015

NO CONTACT OF ANY KIND

Father of Kyron Horman: 'We need to bring him home'
June 2, 2015


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Kaine Horman believes Kyron's stepmother Terri is responsible for the boy's disappearance. He thinks she may not have acted alone.  "SOMEBODY ELSE IS INVOLVED WITH HIS DISAPPEARANCE and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.  ... Kaine Horman says Terri has had "no contact of any kind" with their six-year old daughter after a lengthy divorce and custody battle.

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http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/


2016

THE AGREEMENT IS ON HOLD

Terri Horman, stepmom of missing Kyron Horman, moved to California, state records show
January 9, 2016


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Terri Horman initially was barred from contact with Kiara by a restraining order filed by Kaine Horman and later by a civil order. Kaine Horman filed for the restraining order after he said investigators alerted him that Terri Horman had solicited a landscaper to kill him months before Kyron's disappearance. Police never charged Terri Horman in connection with the allegations.

In June 2014, a Multnomah County judge granted custody of the daughter to Kaine Horman, but approved a plan to help reunite the mother and child and allow visitation.

Terri Horman had started meeting with an assigned "parent coordinator'' as required, but the logistics and costs of having a psychological assessment done proved challenging, according to sources familiar with the case. The plan is now on hold.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/01/terri_horman_stepmom_of_missin.html

Custody Agreement
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf
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« Reply #319 on: May 20, 2016, 10:56:03 AM »

Could it be that Kyron's parents have gleaned from ongoing briefings with investigators regarding their son's disappearance that not only did Terri take Kyron from the school on the morning of June 4, 2010 but she also had accomplices in her mission in secreting her stepson?

Dede?  Dede's former child advocate boyfriend?  Could it be that both are Prosecution witnesses who have each received an immunity deal?

Could it be that connecting investigative dots will reveal a network of volunteers who were lead to believe that Kyron was at risk?  Could Kyron have been secreted to a "safe house"?

Could it be that Kaine's 2015 "belief" that his son is alive has been derived from an official foundation?

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ONE YEAR AGO - ACCORDING TO KAINE AND DESIREE

Kaine Horman - June 2, 2015

Kaine Horman believes Kyron's stepmother Terri is responsible for the boy's disappearance. He thinks she may not have acted alone.

"Somebody else is involved with his disappearance and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are.  We need to find him. We need to bring him home."
http://ux.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/
  
Kaine Horman - June 3, 2015

Kiara was 18 months old when Kyron disappeared, and she's only a year away now from being as old as Kyron was when he went missing. Yet Kaine said there's been no contact between Terri and her daughter.

"It tells me everything I need to know," said Kaine. "She's told us about the failed polygraphs. And when you fail two to three polygraphs, the percentages are really high. And when the questions are around your involvement with taking him from the school that day, I think we know. We all do."
http://www.katu.com/news/investigators/Five-years-later-why-Kyron-Hormans-dad-believes-hes-alive-305768091.html

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle." ....  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact," Young said.
http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko

Kaine Horman - June 4, 2015

For the last 5 years, Horman has lived each moment believing his son will be found.

He’s potentially either in the area with someone or even outside our area with someone else. ....  I’d almost call it a belief.  Hope to me is good, but it’s also kind of uncertain.”
http://koin.com/2015/06/04/kaine-horman-on-kyron-terri-life-after-5-years/

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance

Desiree Young - November 25, 2015

"It was exactly between 8:45 and 8:55. ... He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out THE SIDE ENTRANCE of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school."  (Video Excerpt - 1:24)
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/


FIVE MONTHS AGO - ACCORDING TO KAINE AND DESIREE

Kaine Horman - People Magazine Article Response - June 20, 2016

"Hi friends. Yes I am well aware of the tabloid journalism piece in the media today. FYI - there will be more of the same coming Friday

We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! Until then we'll stick with the scores of people with valid/accurate information and the failed polygraphs as the only actual actions taken to-date.

To all of you: how about not linking the article/interview?
REMEMBER KYRON?!?!? This is what we need to be focused on!!

Love you Kyron!!"
http://www.kptv.com/story/31013062/kaine-horman-investigators-still-waiting-to-talk-to-kyrons-stepmom

Desiree Young - People Magazine Article Response - January 20, 2016

"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day.  She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that.  Terri hasn't been the only focus.  Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision.  We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline.  We know who did this.  We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."
http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt
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