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« Reply #80 on: September 07, 2015, 12:30:29 PM »

http://www.kptv.com/story/29971383/kyron-hormans-mom-on-weekend-search-i-have-to-remember-he-needs-me-to-do-this

 
No arrests have ever been made in the case, but Young continues to point the finger at Kyron's former stepmother, Terri Horman.

"Terri doesn't make friends, and it's fortunate for us, because it helps us," Young said Sunday.

 

"The world's closing in around Terri and I'm coming for her and we're going to get her in jail if it's the last thing I do," Young said.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Are these not direct quotes from Desiree stated against terri?
So according to Blinkoncrime can we expect Desiree to be arrested or have charges filed against her for the mere mention of terri's name??? Also,why would dede have her phone turned off and left in her truck the day Kyron went "missing" when dede claimed her Mom went home sick from work that day and dede was worried about her?Phoned turned off and left in truck for 2 hours.Was this the same 2 hours terri has unaccounted for  time that day?I know if I had a sick elderly parent that had to leave work and go home,my phone would have been attached to my hip,turned on.
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http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments

September 6, 2015 at 12:57 am

I saw her post that and she mentioned June 4th. Unequivocally, that did not happen. One of the major reasons that LE kept pounding away at DDS was because there was absolutely no contact between her and TH since March (bday party) on either cell and since DDS had her phone off in her truck that day- they could were ďpositiveĒ someone had to buy a burner. Either LE posited that as a theory and never bothered to share with DY that it was disproven, or other. There is a reason DY is not speaking publicly right now, and Kelly is discussing the search without mention of DDS or direct allegations of TH.
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Karma ... whether turned on or off ... I suspect that Dede did leave her cell in her vehicle thus giving the false impression that she did not leave the farm on the morning of June 4, 2010.  However ... inquiring minds want to know ... when the cell phone left in Dede's vehicle is considered ... from what phone did she receive that alleged 11:15 am call that Blink referenced in her blog on July 26, 2010?  Could it have been a burner phone ... a burner phone purchased prior to June 4, 2010?  

 
Blink-on-Crime - July 26, 2010

<snipped>

According to several sources, DeDe Spicher, Terriís roommate  post Kaineís restraining order,  was working in a garden near the Horman home the day of Kyronís disappearance when she received a call at approximately 11:15 am. She left abruptly, returning at approximately 1:00 pm. DeDe was unreachable on her cell phone during that time and the property owner became concerned. Spicher is a long time friend and workout companion of Hormanís.

<snipped>

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-1/


Blink-on-Crime - September 4, 2013

DeDe arrived at her job at Westwind Farm StudioĖa sprawling and lush forty-plus acre property scheduled to be on the Garden Conservatory Tour the next day. She parked at the main house, left her cell phone which was turned on, and her lunch cooler in her Ford Explorer.

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/
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« Reply #81 on: September 07, 2015, 12:39:13 PM »

http://www.kptv.com/story/29971383/kyron-hormans-mom-on-weekend-search-i-have-to-remember-he-needs-me-to-do-this

 
No arrests have ever been made in the case, but Young continues to point the finger at Kyron's former stepmother, Terri Horman.

"Terri doesn't make friends, and it's fortunate for us, because it helps us," Young said Sunday.

 

"The world's closing in around Terri and I'm coming for her and we're going to get her in jail if it's the last thing I do," Young said.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Are these not direct quotes from Desiree stated against terri?
So according to Blinkoncrime can we expect Desiree to be arrested or have charges filed against her for the mere mention of terri's name??? Also,why would dede have her phone turned off and left in her truck the day Kyron went "missing" when dede claimed her Mom went home sick from work that day and dede was worried about her?Phoned turned off and left in truck for 2 hours.Was this the same 2 hours terri has unaccounted for  time that day?I know if I had a sick elderly parent that had to leave work and go home,my phone would have been attached to my hip,turned on.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/12/31/kyron-horman-missing-new-years-eve-settlement-ends-horman-marriage/#comments

September 6, 2015 at 12:57 am

I saw her post that and she mentioned June 4th. Unequivocally, that did not happen. One of the major reasons that LE kept pounding away at DDS was because there was absolutely no contact between her and TH since March (bday party) on either cell and since DDS had her phone off in her truck that day- they could were ďpositiveĒ someone had to buy a burner. Either LE posited that as a theory and never bothered to share with DY that it was disproven, or other. There is a reason DY is not speaking publicly right now, and Kelly is discussing the search without mention of DDS or direct allegations of TH.
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THE DISCONNECT

Karma ... whether turned on or off ... I suspect that Dede did leave her cell in her vehicle thus giving the false impression that she did not leave the farm on the morning of June 4, 2010.  However ... inquiring minds want to know ... when the cell phone left in Dede's vehicle is considered ... if from what phone did she receive that alleged 11:15 am call that Blink referenced in her blog on July 26, 2010?  Could it have been a burner phone ... a burner phone purchased prior to June 4, 2010?  

 
Blink-on-Crime - July 26, 2010

<snipped>

According to several sources, DeDe Spicher, Terriís roommate  post Kaineís restraining order,  was working in a garden near the Horman home the day of Kyronís disappearance when she received a call at approximately 11:15 am. She left abruptly, returning at approximately 1:00 pm. DeDe was unreachable on her cell phone during that time and the property owner became concerned. Spicher is a long time friend and workout companion of Hormanís.

<snipped>

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-1/


Blink-on-Crime - September 4, 2013

DeDe arrived at her job at Westwind Farm StudioĖa sprawling and lush forty-plus acre property scheduled to be on the Garden Conservatory Tour the next day. She parked at the main house, left her cell phone which was turned on, and her lunch cooler in her Ford Explorer.

Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/
Thank you Janet
Hmmm....very contradicting statements about dede's phone.
Strange.
Do you think there is some kinda court order against Desiree or anyone close to her,to not mention terri's or dede's names?
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« Reply #82 on: September 07, 2015, 12:42:19 PM »

RECENT CASE UPDATES IN A NUTSHELL

May 2015

This is the Moment

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015


"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


Everything in Writing

Desiree Young - May 29, 2015


" .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055


June 2015

Our Trusted Circle

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko


One of Them

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


Just a Technicality

Desiree Young - June 5, 2015


ďSheís (Terri) not been named a suspect just as a technicality Ė sheís definitely a person of interest.Ē

http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/Mom-to-Kyron-Im-bringing-you-home-Be-strong-Im-coming--306296871.html


July 2015

All About Strategy

Desiree Davidson Young - July 19, 2015


"Well law enforcement is all about strategy, it doesn't make sense to the rest of us but they only get one shot to get it right.  The day that Casey Anthony took Caylee out of this life, change the way that law enforcement will proceed on cases and how they prosecute all missing child cases.  They won't put her in Jail until we have Kyron."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.852969098126346/852969098126346/?type=1&theater


Lots of Progress Recently

Desiree Young - July 20, 2015


"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater


Reminder

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.
"
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Karma ... Desiree has been far from silent regarding Terri ... regarding Dede.  Contrary to Kaine ...  the nature of Kyron's Mom does not allow her to hold back and say nothing about what she has learned in ongoing briefings with investigators regarding case updates.  I believe there is so much more that Desiree is privy to but is not revealing.

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« Reply #83 on: September 07, 2015, 12:57:51 PM »

Think about it.  Kaine does not dispute the truth regarding what Desiree reveals but ... obviously disagrees with the wisdom of revealing.  If my now 12 year old grandson had been missing for five years and ... if I had been privy to the truth through ongoing case updates with investigators ... I have no doubt that I would be a Desiree ... not as young ... not as pretty but ... a Desiree nevertheless.


Desiree Young - February 2, 2011

"Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop

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THE EMAILS

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Kyron Horman's Mother Speaks Out
11/15/2010


Transcript Excerpt

<snipped>

On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

Desiree: It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron.

I now believe without a shadow of a doubt that not only is she capable of hurting Kyron, that it's clear that she could have hurt him in the worst possible way

<snipped>

http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247


Kaine Horman

Adds to the Pile

Missing Kyron's Dad Points Finger at Stepmom
Kaine Horman suspects his estranged wife knows what happened to his son.
11/19/2010


Transcript Excerpt

<snipped>

Reporter: Have you seen the emails that are being talked about where Terri allegedly talks about hurting Kyron?

Kaine: Yeah, well, I, I've seen them. Yes.

Reporter: What is in those emails?

Kaine: I'm not gonna talk about it. It's information that's supposed to be confidential to the investigation, and...

Reporter: Did they only solidify your belief that Terri's responsible?

Kaine: Everything that we see moving forward just adds to the pile.

<snipped>

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-kyrons-dad-points-finger-stepmom-12189940?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=11128091&page=1
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« Reply #84 on: September 07, 2015, 01:15:42 PM »


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Do you think there is some kinda court order against Desiree or anyone close to her,to not mention terri's or dede's names?


When I consider the words of Desiree in her respective press conferences yesterday and in June ... words implicating Terri and Dede  ...  I don't think so.  Nevertheless ... when the compromising of the investigation is considered ... she wouldn't go there.  I give Desiree credit that she is aware of the line in the sand.  That is the reason Desiree instructed her attorney to drop the $10,000,000 lawsuit again Terri.

Desiree Young talks about search for Kyron
http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/




Reminder

Desiree Young - September 1, 2013


"I never do anything without talking to them (LE) ... without consulting them (LE)."

http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-interview-Desiree-Young--222019741.html
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« Reply #85 on: September 07, 2015, 02:20:45 PM »

RECENT CASE UPDATES IN A NUTSHELL

May 2015

This is the Moment

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015


"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


Everything in Writing

Desiree Young - May 29, 2015


" .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055


June 2015

Our Trusted Circle

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko


One of Them

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


Just a Technicality

Desiree Young - June 5, 2015


ďSheís (Terri) not been named a suspect just as a technicality Ė sheís definitely a person of interest.Ē

http://www.kmtr.com/news/local/Mom-to-Kyron-Im-bringing-you-home-Be-strong-Im-coming--306296871.html


July 2015

All About Strategy

Desiree Davidson Young - July 19, 2015


"Well law enforcement is all about strategy, it doesn't make sense to the rest of us but they only get one shot to get it right.  The day that Casey Anthony took Caylee out of this life, change the way that law enforcement will proceed on cases and how they prosecute all missing child cases.  They won't put her in Jail until we have Kyron."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.852969098126346/852969098126346/?type=1&theater


Lots of Progress Recently

Desiree Young - July 20, 2015


"They are very busy right now.  Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. ....   Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater


Reminder

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.
"
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Karma ... Desiree has been far from silent regarding Terri ... regarding Dede.  Contrary to Kaine ...  the nature of Kyron's Mom does not allow her to hold back and say nothing about what she has learned in ongoing briefings with investigators regarding case updates.  I believe there is so much more that Desiree is privy to but is not revealing.


Oh yes,I totally agree with that Janet.
I also believe Desiree and Kaine know much more that any outsiders,even more than people who have "sources" and "inside info".Or so they say.....
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« Reply #86 on: September 07, 2015, 02:24:59 PM »


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Do you think there is some kinda court order against Desiree or anyone close to her,to not mention terri's or dede's names?


When I consider the words of Desiree in her respective press conferences yesterday and in June ... words implicating Terri and Dede  ...  I don't think so.  Nevertheless ... when the compromising of the investigation is considered ... she wouldn't go there.  I give Desiree credit that she is aware of the line in the sand.  That is the reason Desiree instructed her attorney to drop the $10,000,000 lawsuit again Terri.

Desiree Young talks about search for Kyron
http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/


Thank you Janet
I agree and thank you for always being there for Desiree,Kaine and little Kyron.
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« Reply #87 on: September 07, 2015, 02:51:21 PM »

Thanks Karma ... thanks on many levels.

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Have a good day Karma.

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« Reply #88 on: September 07, 2015, 04:01:35 PM »

Thanks Karma ... thanks on many levels.

 an angelic monkey

I'm off.  A Labor Day family gathering is taking place at the home of my brother and SIL.  Hubby and my contribution?  My famous (Safeway) carrot cake.  Throw away the box ... place the cake on my mother's beautiful platter and I fool everyone (I think).

Have a good day Karma.

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Have a great Labor Day Janet.
I LOVE carrot cake   
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« Reply #89 on: September 07, 2015, 09:31:01 PM »

thanks for the link to this video Janet, as it has info ive never heard b4
does anyone know where this part of the school grounds are that she
is talking about

at about 7minutes into video Desiree says
this is the last place he was seen walking right here
and indicates with her hand at where she is standing

the video
Desiree Young talks about search for Kyron
http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

and just a minute or 2 b4 the Kyron was walking here statement
Desiree talks about animal bones found, but dosent say where
this article says

5:10 p.m. PDT September 6, 2015
 
One of the searchers on Saturday came across a set of bones in the woods near Sauvie Island, but that did not turn out to be a break in the case. About two hours later, a medical examiner determined the bones to be nonhuman, according to Sgt. Pete Simpson of Portland police.
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/
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« Reply #90 on: September 07, 2015, 11:00:58 PM »

thanks for the link to this video Janet, as it has info ive never heard b4
does anyone know where this part of the school grounds are that she
is talking about

at about 7minutes into video Desiree says
this is the last place he was seen walking right here
and indicates with her hand at where she is standing

the video
Desiree Young talks about search for Kyron
http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

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Hi cw618 ... it's been a while.

Could it be that Desiree has learned through ongoing briefings with investigators that Kyron and Terri were witnessed outside the school after 8:45 am on the morning of June 4, 2010?  Think about it.  Over five years later respective attorneys of Kyron's parents have never held the PPS legally responsible in a civil lawsuit for the disappearance of their son.

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"



https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


Desiree Young - September 6, 2015

"We know one of the last places he was seen was right here walking and that is my connection to him."  (6:15)

http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/
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« Reply #91 on: September 07, 2015, 11:23:48 PM »

cw618 ... where is "a gravel path in front of the school's playground"?  Could that be the location Desiree held yesterday's press conference?


Kyron Horman investigators ask public to help track white pickup Terri Horman drove
August 11, 2010


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Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans' extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared.

Authorities are seeking to identify the person, or persons, who may have been spotted by the truck as it was parked outside the school's front fence in the shoulder of Northwest Skyline Boulevard. Someone possibly moved the pickup and parked it up a gravel path in front of the school's playground while Terri Moulton Horman was inside the school with her stepson for his science fair.

Underhill said investigators want to identify anybody "in or in immediate proximity to that truck."

"We're looking for additional witnesses," he added, standing in the Brooks Hill Historic Church across from the school in front of blown-up photos of the Horman truck staged at each location.

The appeal to the public comes as investigators continue to try to determine the whereabouts of Terri Moulton Horman and her friend DeDe Spicher during overlapping hours on the day Kyron disappeared.

<snipped>

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html


Desiree Young - September 6, 2015

"We know one of the last places he was seen was right here walking and that is my connection to him."  (6:15)

"I'm still here.  I'm going to fight for Kyron.  The world is closing in around Terri and I'm coming for her.  We're going to get her in jail if its the last thing I do."  (13:00)  

http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/local/2015/08/26/kyron-horman-search-planned-labor-day-weekend/32412233/
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« Reply #92 on: September 08, 2015, 12:41:49 PM »

Three people?  A man?  When Desiree's May 31, 2015 claim that Terri and Kyron walked out of the school together is considered ... a claim I believe would not have been made if it had not been derived from an official foundation ...  could it be that it was Dede and her former child advocate boyfriend who were waiting in the truck?

The video of the following KGW interview with Desiree and Kaine is no longer available at the posted link.  I have emailed Kyle Iboshi.  Maybe Kyle will provide me with working links to the two part interview.

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White Truck Transciption

Kaine Horman & Desiree Young 8/27 pt.2

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/Kaine-Horman--Desiree-Young-827-pt-2-kyron-horman-missing-portland-101688128.html

-2:50

Reporter: Potentially one person in the truck... three people... the white truck, Terri's truck... can you talk...

Desiree: (interrupts) Kaine's truck (laughs)

Reporter: a little bit about that...

Reporter: Kaine's truck. I'm sorry... What are your thoughts on that new information? Do you feel as though Dede was in that truck?

Desiree: (interrupts) It just makes me feel stronger that, that there were people helping her... that Kyron saw it all and was involved and that there were other people helping her... which is what we suspected.

Reporter: So because... but do you believe that a man was spotted? I mean again, these are witness accounts, and I don't know how much information that you've been privy to about what the, what is the likeliest scenario?

Desiree: Well first of all, why would Kyron even be outside the school? Why would he even be near a truck with somebody else in it?

You know. I mean it's significant in a huge way to the case. If the timeline played out the way that it supposedly did? That contradicts that completely.

So I mean, other than that (shrugs), that's how significant it was to me.

Reporter: How authentic do you think that witness is? I mean how...

Desiree: (interrupts, shifts eyes to side) Very authentic.

Reporter: So it's a credible...

Desiree: (interrupts, shifts eyes to side and down) Yep.

Reporter: ...witness.

Reporter: And what exactly are they claiming that they saw?

Kaine: (audibly sighs/intakes breath, clears throat)

Kaine: Well I think, Sarah, I think to be more direct about it... I think that law enforcement needs to determine that still.

Desiree: Yeah, that part.

Kaine: We've been briefed on a lot of the information and the tips and the things that they're looking into, and that was part of that bucket of tips that they're...

Desiree: (interrupts) Yeah.

Kaine: ...that they're working their way through. Until they confirm and until they bring some of that information forward to the greater public, they're still looking into it, so I think us commenting on that is a little bit premature.

There's how we feel about it...

Desiree: (interrupts) Yeah.

Kaine: ...and then there are the facts. And the facts...

Reporter: (interrupts) How do you feel about it?

Kaine: How do I feel about it? I feel it's definitely significant. I don't know how credible the sources are. I'm hoping that they are because it helps us bring more of those pieces that we talked about before, the puzzle, in to paint the bigger picture, but until they're confirmed, I'm not going to maintain a sense of false hope that they're valid, until they're actually valid, until I see them and get from law enforcement that yep, this is verified, this is air tight, this is another piece that we found, and then I will believe it.

Desiree: Yeah.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?112948-8-27-KGW-TV-Interview-with-Desiree-and-Kaine/page3

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« Reply #93 on: September 08, 2015, 01:27:38 PM »

My theory implies that Dede and Dede's former child advocate boyfriend have both been afforded immunity in exchange for their respective truthful testimony at an upcoming trial ... truthful testimony regarding their involvment and knowledge encompassing the secreting of Kyron Horman.

Think about it. In a 2012 deposition ... Dede was questioned by Desiree's attorney about her relationship with JW.  Why?  On so many levels ... the deposition implicated Dede in wrongdoing.

My theory also implies that when all is said and done neither Dede nor JW is privy to the whereabouts of a secreted Kyron ... the whereabouts of a live Kyron.  In other words ... the connecting dots that begin with Terri stop when a safe-haven network enters the scenario.


Desiree Young - June 29, 2010

"I believe that he s stashed I believe it's the investigation that's going to lead us [to him]."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11755380/


Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

"I believe that Respondent has harmed or secreted Kyron.''

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


Dede Spicher - The Deposition - October 5, 2010

Pages 4/20 - 5/20

Q.  Have you had any significant others in your life?
A.  Yes? ....

Read more:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


Dede Spicher - The Deposition - October 5, 2010

Excerpts:

Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

H/T - Criminal Mindz

Read more:
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf




Desiree Young - September 2013

"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


Desiree Young - June 21, 2014

ďWe have lots of evidence. We just donít have that final thing, the final answer. Itís frustrating.  Itís not a stranger that walked into Kyronís school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.Ē

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


Desiree Young - July 11, 2014

"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first.  The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516
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« Reply #94 on: September 08, 2015, 03:04:50 PM »

In June ... Desiree made it known that the Labor Day Weekend search was not being organized without the input of the Sheriff's office.

In Sunday's press conference Desiree shared that the Jackson County Sheriff's Office sent four additional dog teams.


Reminder

Desiree Young - September 1, 2013


"I never do anything without talking to them (LE) ... without consulting them (LE)."

http://www.kgw.com/video/featured-videos/Raw-interview-Desiree-Young--222019741.html


Official Input

'I still wake up crying and praying, hoping today will be the day'
June 4, 2015


<snipped>

In September, Young is planning another search.

She hopes to bring in 15 tracking and cadaver dog teams from Washington, Idaho, California and Florida to search in the Portland area, but wouldn't say where. She's organized several other searches in the past.

She said they've turned up evidence implicating Terri Moulton Horman, who was married to Kaine Horman at the time Kyron went missing. Terri Horman took the boy to a science fair before class at Skyline School and then walked him to his classroom before leaving.

"We've found evidence to suggest that Terri might have been trying to get rid of things connected to Kyron," Young said, referring to the previous searches. "She's not going to talk until we have evidence to confront her. We have to find it."

Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation. She has never faced charges.

Young said she's coordinating the search with the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office, but said the agency wouldn't take part. She plans to keep searching until every inch of territory is covered.

"There are so many different areas that have to be searched thoroughly," Young said. "It's a big canvas. There is no way that law enforcement can do that."


http://www.kval.com/news/local/Kyron-Hormans-mom-It-doesnt-get-easier-with-time-305763801.html


Press Conference

Desiree Young talks about search for Kyron
September 6, 2015
http://www.kgw.com/videos/news/2015/09/06/desiree-talks-kyron-search/71827128/


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« Reply #95 on: September 08, 2015, 04:30:25 PM »

Justice for Kyron Horman!

UPDATE #113      4 HOURS AGO


Thank you so much to all our volunteers that came out to help us search for our Kyron. It always amazes me to see how loved he is by people he has never even met, how one little boy can make such a difference in the heart of others. There just arenít the words to express how much it means to us to have so many stand beside us and continue to support our efforts to bring Kyron home after 5 excruciating years. Itís disappointing to walk away without our answers, but our haystack is getting smaller, and it will continue to get smaller because we will never give up! We will never quit searching! Thanks to Pacific Crest Search and Rescue, we have been given the opportunity to search more often. We are going to be shifting gears a bit moving forward, which will be more productive and narrow down our search areas significantly, so stay tuned.

A special thank you goes out to Klaas Kids and Pacific Crest. You are amazing, and we couldnít do this without you. You continue to fill our hearts with hope, even when walking away from a search with no answers, knowing how much we desperately need it. Thank you to Beth, who runs our Missing Kyron Horman Facebook page and Stacey with Kyron Hormanís World Soldiers. You make sure Kyron is never forgotten and his face is seen every day.

Thank you to our new teams we had the privilege to work with, Southern Oregon Search and Rescue and Ashland Police. It was a privilege to work with all of you, and we hope you will continue with us in our future searches.

To our Kyron~
Our lives are not the same without you, and we will never be whole until you are with us. We will never give up, we will find you, and the person responsible for ripping you away and stealing your innocence will pay for what they have done to you. As we continue to search and continue to move closer to you, the road blocks that have been standing in our way are going to be torn down. We will no longer stand for being held back, and those people are going to feel the pressure.

We love you to the moon our sweet boy,
Auntie Kelly

We Promise We Will Find you!
We Will Never Stop!

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman
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« Reply #96 on: September 08, 2015, 05:02:01 PM »

FLASHBACK - FIVE YEARS

Families Throwing Birthday Parties for Missing Kyron Horman
09/09/2010


The tradition continues of separate birthday parties for Kyron Horman, one thrown by his father and the other by his mother and her husband. But this year's celebrations are missing the guest of honor.

Kyron Horman, who turned 8 on Thursday, vanished more than three months ago from his Portland, Ore.-area school. As the investigation continues and his classmates return to school this week, his mother Desiree Young still made plans for his Thursday night party.

"I'm hoping to do a slideshow of Kyron and his pictures, and play his favorite music, and we're going to have cake," says Young, who lives in Medford, five hours south of Portland. "We're going to talk about our memories of Kyron and pray and have family there and just celebrate Kyron's life."

Kyron's father Kaine Horman, who was divorced from Desiree in 2003, will have a separate celebration on Sunday in Portland at a family fun park.

"[We] play mini-golf, we've done his birthdays there before," he says. "It's probably some place we'd be doing his birthday again or bowling or swimming or something."

This year, the boy's stepmom Terri Moulton Horman won't be a part of the festivities either. She helped raise Kyron since he was a toddler, but was reportedly the last person to see the boy. Since then, Kaine filed a restraining order along with divorce papers.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20420187,00.html
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« Reply #97 on: September 08, 2015, 05:52:58 PM »

DESIREE AND KAINE - NOT RULED OUT?

I disagree.  Contrary to the belief of some ... it makes sense to me that it could be assumed that the words of spokespersons within the Kyron Horman investigation have made it clear that Desiree and Kaine have indeed been "ruled out" as persons of interest in the disappearance of their son.  Think about it.  Kyron's parents are in the investigative loop while Terri is not and according to DA Rees that is exactly the way it should remain.


Attorneys for Kaine Horman and Terri Horman continue to argue over who can ask what in depositions
October 8, 2013


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Chief Deputy District Attorney Don Rees has filed a separate motion to limit Terri Horman's deposition of Kaine Horman.

Because Kaine Horman is the victim of "an apparent crime against his own child,'' he has a legal right to information about his missing son, Rees argued.

"The fact that law enforcement has necessarily conveyed this information to Kaine Horman does not waive the longstanding and well-recognized privileged and confidential nature of information relating to a pending criminal investigation,'' Rees wrote.

Kaine Horman should be prohibited from answering any questions about law enforcement methods used to investigate his son's disappearance, physical evidence gathered, witness statements or questions asked by law enforcement, or whether he has testified before a grand jury, Rees wrote.

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http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/10/attorneys_for_kaine_horman_and.html


The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office Statement - July 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosav
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« Reply #98 on: September 08, 2015, 07:55:30 PM »

Justice for Kyron Horman!

UPDATE #113      4 HOURS AGO


Thank you so much to all our volunteers that came out to help us search for our Kyron. It always amazes me to see how loved he is by people he has never even met, how one little boy can make such a difference in the heart of others. There just arenít the words to express how much it means to us to have so many stand beside us and continue to support our efforts to bring Kyron home after 5 excruciating years. Itís disappointing to walk away without our answers, but our haystack is getting smaller, and it will continue to get smaller because we will never give up! We will never quit searching! Thanks to Pacific Crest Search and Rescue, we have been given the opportunity to search more often. We are going to be shifting gears a bit moving forward, which will be more productive and narrow down our search areas significantly, so stay tuned.

A special thank you goes out to Klaas Kids and Pacific Crest. You are amazing, and we couldnít do this without you. You continue to fill our hearts with hope, even when walking away from a search with no answers, knowing how much we desperately need it. Thank you to Beth, who runs our Missing Kyron Horman Facebook page and Stacey with Kyron Hormanís World Soldiers. You make sure Kyron is never forgotten and his face is seen every day.

Thank you to our new teams we had the privilege to work with, Southern Oregon Search and Rescue and Ashland Police. It was a privilege to work with all of you, and we hope you will continue with us in our future searches.

To our Kyron~
Our lives are not the same without you, and we will never be whole until you are with us. We will never give up, we will find you, and the person responsible for ripping you away and stealing your innocence will pay for what they have done to you. As we continue to search and continue to move closer to you, the road blocks that have been standing in our way are going to be torn down. We will no longer stand for being held back, and those people are going to feel the pressure.

We love you to the moon our sweet boy,
Auntie Kelly

We Promise We Will Find you!
We Will Never Stop!

http://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman

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« Reply #99 on: September 08, 2015, 10:07:11 PM »

July 2010!!!  Dede Spicher had distanced herself from Terri Horman for over 3 years at the time of the September 2013 Blink interview.  Why?


Blink-on-Crime - September 4, 2013

..... Spicher told them it was 10: 00 PM , and reminded them that she has not had any contact with Terri since July 2010. Spicher told investigators that she was not comfortable with the proposal and would definitely need to sleep on it. They told her they would follow up with her. .....

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