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« Reply #860 on: August 03, 2017, 11:33:00 AM »

IN A NUTSHELL

DeDe, Terri unaccounted for at same time on June 4
August 12, 2010

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PORTLAND, Ore. -- DeDe Spicher and Terri Moulton-Horman were both unaccounted for during the same period of time the day Kyron Horman disappeared, based on information revealed by investigators and on information from KGW sources. ....

Sources also tell KGW that, during the period of time DeDe was unaccounted for, her car remained at the property where she had been gardening. According to sources, that detail is significant because, if DeDe left the property as investigators believe, she would have had to leave in another vehicle.

Meanwhile, at a Wednesday press conference, investigators focused on the movements of the Horman family pickup truck on the day Kyron disappeared. Investigators specifically asked for any witnesses who might have seen the pickup in that same area of Skyline between 10:15 and 11:30 a.m. Sources tell KGW that investigators identified that as the time between when Terri left a Beaverton Fred Meyer and her next known stop, at her personal gym.

These timelines leave a one-hour, fifteen-minute block of time in the middle of the day Kyron disappeared where the whereabouts of both Terri and DeDe was still under investigation.  At Wednesday's press conference, deputies focused in on specific roads in the Skyline area where the family's white truck may have been during that window of time. ....

Investigators spent Sunday searching the home where Spicher gardened the morning of June 4.

The person who owns the house where Spicher gardened, who is cooperating with investigators, told investigators she called Spicher on her cell phone but she didn't answer, the source told KGW. A person who was working with Spicher, who is also cooperating with investigators, told them of trying to unsuccessfully find Spicher. Both people have told investigators they have no idea where Spicher was during that period of time.

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/DeDe-Spicher-99077874.html


Aug-11-2010    
Detectives Seek Public Help in Kyron Horman Case

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The third focus is seeking any additional information about the truck at two Fred Meyer Stores as well as on or near Skyline Blvd. between approximately Springville Road and Newberry Road, including on or around Germantown Road and/or old Germantown Road at approximately 10:15 a.m. to 11:30 a.m.

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/august112010/kyron-update.php


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A Complicit DDS

Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview
Posted by Christina Stoy
Thursday 21 January 2016 12:06 pm

12.  ... February 25, 2016 at 11:52 pm

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.... After much diligence I now truly understand WHY DDS was believed to be complicit if TH had been. Obviously it should have been ruled out early on, but I can see how MCSO went down that road so to speak.  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/01/21/kyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview/comment-page-25/#comments
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« Reply #861 on: August 03, 2017, 11:58:25 AM »


Greetings Monkeys.

Janet,

EXCERPT

She spends her whole interview defending herself, instead of pleading to the so called abductors to bring him home.  

Terri should tell Kyron, on camera, to stay strong, and that his sister, brother, and parent's, miss and love you, and we are still looking for you.  

I think this interview is very telling because she does not plead out to the kidnappers.  My Opinions. Sad


Less than a month following the disappearance of Kyron ... Blink said it best.  Blink may have evolved but more than seven years later I firmly believe she got it right.

Seahorse ... I hope you are having a good day.

Janet

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2010

ZIP IT


Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Kaine Horman Files For Restraining Order And Divorce From Terri Horman
Posted by Christina Stoy | Tuesday 29 June 2010 7:39 am

42.  .... June 30, 2010 at 6:35 pm

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I will speculate that she has a level of culpability and has been advised by counsel to zip it, as they are looking to mount a mental defense. .... B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/29/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-kaine-horman-files-for-restraining-order-and-divorce-from-terri-horman/comment-page-5/


2016

THEY ARE WAITING!!  STILL!!


Kaine Horman - January 20, 2016


" .... We have a host of MCSO and FBI investigators still standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate.  Feel free to stop by.  They are waiting!! Still!! .... "

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=1542490139366963&story_fbid=1676175579331751

http://www.kptv.com/story/31013062/kaine-horman-investigators-still-waiting-to-talk-to-kyrons-stepmom


AN OPEN INVITATION

Statement - MCSO & District Attorney's Office
September 21, 2016


"Kyron Horman's parents and members of the public should know that the investigation into Kyron's disappearance is active, ongoing and includes a recent search effort. Ms. Horman has an open invitation to speak with MCSO. The Multnomah County District Attorney's Office was in contact with defense attorney Stephen Houze earlier this week and was advised that he continues to represent Terri Horman. Mr. Houze requests no contact with Ms. Horman by law enforcement absent his authorization and her consent."

http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/search-for-kyron-horman-happened-last-weekend-sheriffs-office-confirms/323175896
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« Reply #862 on: August 03, 2017, 05:47:28 PM »

do we know which starbucks it is
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« Reply #863 on: August 03, 2017, 06:20:50 PM »

do we know which starbucks it is


cw618 ... I don't.  Do you know if there are Starbucks in Fred Meyers' stores?  Maybe the receipt Terri refers to in an email on June 4, 2010 ... is a Starbucks' receipt.  Think about it. Terri claims that the first Fred Meyer's she went to did not have Kiara's medication.

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Terri Horman e-mails: 'They are blaming me'
Aug 10, 2010

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"I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for Kitty they didn't have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get Kitty to sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30. That was my day - they keep asking me. Now on my 5th interview with them ..."

http://www.katu.com/news/local/1003239


Police ask public about close friend of Kryon's stepmom
August 10, 2010

EXCERPT


Meanwhile, the grand jury continued to hear testimony in the case Tuesday. Two women who work at a Starbucks Horman allegedly visited the morning Kyron disappeared testified for more than two hours.

http://kval.com/news/local/police-ask-public-about-close-friend-of-kryons-stepmom

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« Reply #864 on: August 03, 2017, 10:09:48 PM »

there is a starbucks where fm #2 & magic cleaner is
Magic Cleaners
16035 SW Walker Rd, Beaverton, OR 97006
starbucks
16175 SW Walker Rd
Beaverton, OR 97006
FM #2
16035 Southwest Walker Road, Beaverton, OR 97006

sb cleaners FM #2
https://goo.gl/maps/x7Qzntj5weD2

street view
zoom in some you can see MC to the left of FM
https://goo.gl/maps/ctyff9Eiysv
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« Reply #865 on: August 03, 2017, 10:19:28 PM »

i ran across a timeline, i made a PDF, that ill leave up for 10 days
if you want to download for your files,
start 8/3/17  end 8/13/17

edited to take down pdf

found here
timeline
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_timeline_of_event.html
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« Reply #866 on: August 03, 2017, 10:58:07 PM »

cw618

Thanks for the info on the Starbucks locations.  However ... the implication of Terri's words in her email of June 5, 2010 was that the receipt referenced was from Fred Meyers #1. 

Terri Horman - June 5, 2010
"I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for Kitty they didn't have at the first FM.

http://www.katu.com/news/local/1003239

Magic Cleaners?  That's another story for another time.

Hey cw618 ... your research/computer skills are amazing.  Thanks

Janet

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THE 2015 OREGONLIVE TIMELINE

Kyron Horman: Timeline of events since boy's disappearance
May 28, 2015

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_timeline_of_event.html


THE DISCONNECT

Desiree Young - May 28, 2015

"This timeline is not accurate, stay tuned folks. Watch for the 5 year vigil on the 4th."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Kyron-Hormans-World-Soldiers/161645780592018


Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015
"... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.1379216938834890/1379216938834890/?type=3&theater


Desiree Young - June 4, 2015
"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."  "We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."
http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko


Desiree Young - November 25, 2015
"He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school." (Video Excerpt 1:24)
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/

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« Reply #867 on: August 05, 2017, 12:13:27 PM »

SEAN REA - THE GRAND JURY

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Hormanís Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

36. ....August 5, 2017 at 3:49 am

EXCERPT


Sean Rea will never be brought before a grand jury, thatís why he was leaked to Kyle in the first place.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-72/#comments

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/


THE DISCONNECT

Terri Horman's ex-boyfriend alleges murder-for-hire plot in 1990
Kyle Iboshi, KGW Senior Investigative Reporter , KGW 1:43 PM. PDT April 19, 2017

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The alleged murder-for-hire plot targeted a man named Sean Rea, who was Hormanís boyfriend at the time. ....

Rea said Multnomah County investigators told him a prison inmate had confessed to taking part in a murder-for-hire plot decades ago in Roseburg. He recalled investigators telling him the unnamed inmate independently provided specific details that matched Reaís account.

Rea said detectives drove him back to Roseburg in 2011 to identify the park where the incident allegedly occurred.  He said he was also called to testify before a grand jury in Multnomah County. ....

Records indicate police have known about the murder-for-hire allegations since 2011 but details have never been made public. Detectives recently presented their case to the Douglas County prosecutor. Itís not clear why the case wasnít sent to prosecutors earlier. ....

Horman faced similar allegations in 2010, when her ex-husband Kaine Horman claimed she tried to hire the family landscaper to kill him.

ďRespondent attempted to hire someone to murder me,Ē Kaine Horman wrote in a restraining order filed on June 28, 2010. A Multnomah County judge granted the restraining order.  

http://www.kgw.com/news/investigations/terri-hormans-former-boyfriend-alleges-another-murder-for-hire-plot/432261285


THE HEADS-UP

MFH Plots? Several?  All?  Stay tuned.

Kyron Horman's mom wants charges filed against Terri Horman in murder-for-hire plot
Kyle Iboshi, Senior Investigative Reporter , KGW 7:03 PM. PDT April 19, 2017

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Young said detectives made her aware of the murder-for-hire allegations several years ago.

ďWeíve been waiting patiently for Douglas County DAís office to do something with this since 2011,Ē said Young.  "I want the DAís office to do something.Ē

http://www.kgw.com/news/investigations/kyron-hormans-mom-wants-charges-filed-against-terri-horman-in-murder-for-hire-plot/432544687


Desiree Young - July 11, 2014

"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first.  The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516


Desiree Young - December 6, 2016

"Come on everyone ... ask Kyron's law enforcement team for an arrest.  The DA's office needs to charge her for all the murder for hire plots, for Kyron, and for the stolen gun.  Why does she get away with this?  Someone else is going to get hurt before we put her in prison."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/pb.161645780592018.-2207520000.1481041254./1177433929013193/?type=3&theater
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« Reply #868 on: August 05, 2017, 05:44:29 PM »

Desiree and Kaine have one interest and that one interest is finding Kyron.  If ongoing briefings with investigators have convinced Kyron's parents that Terri is behind the disappearance of their son ... then so be it!  Why should they lose any sleep over the persecution of the one who has kept them in a perpetual h--- on Earth for over seven years ... a perpetual h--- on Earth of not knowing?  

WHAT INTERESTS?

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Hormanís Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

36. ....August 5, 2017 at 3:49 am

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In my view part of the problem is MCSO staunch position that Terri is involved. I am confident that Desiree and Kaine cling to that for a myriad of reasons, but at its core is because in their heart of hearts they do not believe Terri Horman capable of physically harming Kyron, or ďsolicitingĒ same. Neither of them is likely to ever lose any sleep over the persecution of Terri as it serves their interests. .... B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-72/#comments

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/

 


ACCORDING TO KAINE

Kaine - October 25, 2010


ďLaw enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyronís disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.Ē
http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf


ACCORDING TO DESIREE

Desiree - January 20, 2016


"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day.  She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that.  Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision.  We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline. We know who did this. We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."

http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt
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« Reply #869 on: August 06, 2017, 08:13:06 AM »

Janet,

Will you, please, post the "must read" to the permanent section of Who's Who?  It was a good read. T.Y.

It was a educational article how Kaine would find his wife passed out from booze on the couch, allegedly.

This is very easy to understand how TMH could be driven over the edge, with postpartum depression, booze, baby up all night with a so called ear ache,
and a road trip coming up with 4 1/2 drive to KH mothers, and 4 1/2 drive back.

TMH, agreed to these ungodly trips, because she was rewarded her squirrel car.  If she refused the trips, would Kaine had taken it from her?  

Yet, Kaine, knew she had postpartum depression. The doctor told him to 'watch her' yet he still put up with her behavior of boozing?

I don't think it was premeditated with KH disappearance. I just think or someone or something had to go. Sometimes, when your life is crowded,
you get rid a piece of furniture, in this case, sadly, I think it was a child.

The child was like the bookcase, that TMH, put out in rain, because she needed more space at her friends apartment.  The friend's books, along with bookcase,
was outside in the rain,Terri, allegedly, did not see any wrong with it.  TMH, needed more space, and the friend's books needed to go.

I suspect, TMH, needed more space, and someone had to go.  IMO

So much junk Kyron, had to put up with at his home. He could not tell his own mother, because he would have been in trouble with Kaine and Terri.  


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« Reply #870 on: August 06, 2017, 09:59:38 AM »

Good Morning ... Seahorse

I have yet to down that morning cuppa of coffee and ... the cobwebs have not cleared.  I am caring for six month old grandson this weekend on my own.  Papa and youngest son are fishing while DIL and 2 1/2 year old granddaughter are having a special Mommy and daughter time.  Long story short (too late) ... grandson had a rough night which implies Mama had a rough night.  I would play hookie from church this morning and just veg out but ... pride gets in the way.  I want to show off little guy.  He's soooo cute.

Hey ... the dynamics you revealed in your comment are the same dynamics that unfortunately occur in many households.  However ... seldom are children hated ... seldom do children go missing.

Seahorse ... I hope you have a good day.

Janet (7:50 AM PT)


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2010

Kyron Horman's Mother Speaks Out
11/15/2010

VIDEO EXCERPT


On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

Desiree: It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron.

I now believe without a shadow of a doubt that not only is she capable of hurting Kyron, that it's clear that she could have hurt him in the worst possible way.

http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247

Transcript - H/T - BeanE - Websleuths


Missing Kyron's Dad Points Finger at Stepmom
11/19/2010

VIDEO EXCERPT


Reporter: Have you seen the emails that are being talked about where Terri allegedly talks about hurting Kyron?

Kaine: Yeah, well, I, I've seen them. Yes.

Reporter: What is in those emails?

Kaine: I'm not gonna talk about it. It's information that's supposed to be confidential to the investigation, and...

Reporter: Did they only solidify your belief that Terri's responsible?

Kaine: Everything that we see moving forward just adds to the pile.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-kyrons-dad-points-finger-stepmom-12189940?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=11128091&page=1

Transcript - H/T - BeanE - Websleuths


2011

Entire Desiree Young press conference in Roseburg
Feb 22, 2011

VIDEO EXCERT (4:00)


Question:  You have said that Terri is responsible.  Could you explain what you base that on.

Desiree Young: Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life.

http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop
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« Reply #871 on: August 06, 2017, 08:54:59 PM »

6TH ANNUAL KYRON'S CAR SHOW

Dad of Kyron Horman says Ďleadsí still come in
August 6, 2017

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KOIN 6 News talked to Horman at the 6th annual Kyronís Car Show.

The community event promotes awareness for missing children and child safety, and it also keeps Kyronís story alive.

Video:
http://koin.com/2017/08/06/dad-of-kyron-horman-says-leads-still-come-in/


Hundreds attend car show in honor of Kyron Horman
Aug 07, 2017


EXCERPT

Horman says his son's case is still an open investigation, and he thanks the Multnomah County Sheriffís Office for their continued dedication seven years later.

http://www.kptv.com/story/36083512/hundreds-attend-car-show-in-honor-of-kyron-horman

http://www.kyronscarshow.org/


KYRON'S PARENTS - THE RECENT SEARCHES

Kaine Horman - August 6, 2017

"Law Enforcement is still doing searches and they are all based on investigative leads."

"They are done for a purpose and a reason."

https://www.facebook.com/MaggieVespaTV/videos/pcb.1728742020487516/1728738677154517/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/MaggieVespaTV/?hc_ref=ARS-BIcE6_8reRV1JgJuwaVWyRjiUN_25-XNmHgzWEhpOH8anhWBaDjLcWf8NS-VYtw


Desiree Young - July 9, 2017

Desiree Young, Kyron's mother, declined to comment on the search, saying she'd been instructed not to comment about specifics.

"I will say that our law enforcement team acts with intention and skill based on solid case tips and evidence," she said in an email. "No matter the outcome, it gives us hope that Kyron's team hasn't given up on him and they continue to search for him. I pray that this will help us in Kyron's case and that we will bring him home."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/07/searchers_in_west_hills_for_re.html

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« Reply #872 on: August 07, 2017, 05:31:07 PM »

THE HORMAN PROPERTY SEARCH

What am I not getting?  When it is considered that Terri who according to her own attorney is in the "crosshairs" of the Kyron Horman investigation lived at the Northwest Sheltered Nook Road residence ... it makes sense that a search warrant implies that an official search of the property ... an official search with cadaver dogs ... would not require Kaine's permission.


A CLARIFICATION?

Kaine Horman

Still Missing - Where is 7-Year-Old Kyron?
September 13, 2013

EXCERPT


Video Clip - 2:05

Dr. Phil:  Recently there was a request to dig up ... excavation your property and you said "no".

Dr. Phil:  ... and that bothered you?

Desiree Young:  Yes ... definitely.

Dr. Phil:  Why would you not?

Kaine Horman : I have an open invitation with Law Enforcement and certified Search and Rescue Teams to search my property ... any day ... any time.  When I was called ... I SAID "NO" TO THE PRIVATE SEARCH but I immediately said and ... I will continue to say ... any-time the Sheriff's Office and the Search and Rescue teams want to come with their dogs it's all-right.  My property has been search more than the school has probably.  My invitation is open ... always open.

https://www.drphil.com/shows/2069/


THE DISCONNECT

Kelly Davidson Ramirez

Kyron Horman's World Soldiers
3 December 2015


Kelly Davidson Ramirez: I just want to clarify there was a search done Kaineís property the first couple of days after Kyron went missing. These were search and rescue dogs with a scent article looking for a LIVE child. Cadaver dogs have never set foot on his property. Not once! While Desiree, Me and my family pray everyday this is not our outcome we need answers. Kyron deserves for us to have these answers. He deserves to be found. Why would a father deny any mother the piece of mind knowing he is not there? Why canít he do that for her for Kyron? Not only has he denied us the opportunity to search his property but he is denying law enforcement the access to do so as well. Hmmmm

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THE EMAIL EXCUSING KYRON

Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015

"Hi all-Kyron's mom here-the new law was enacted after Kyron went missing and because Kyron went missing, a close friend Sal Esquivel helped us to write a law and pass it, to require schools to report a child being absent. With Kyron, we got the call from his Friday absence on the following Monday, after he had been missing for 3 days. Gut wrenching moment for me at the house. All while standing next to the devil that took him and knew what happened. Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's.

As far as security cameras, Chown Hardware, a sub-contracting company I used to work with in Portland, so kindly donated the camera system now in Skyline, after he'd been missing. They installed it free to the school, prior to the start of the next school year."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055
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Thanks for the info on the Starbucks locations.  However ... the implication of Terri's words in her email of June 5, 2010 was that the receipt referenced was from Fred Meyers #1. 

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THEY DO NOT HAVE TUNNEL VISION

Desiree - January 20, 2016


"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day.  She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that.  Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision.  We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline. We know who did this. We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."

http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt


KYRON'S PARENTS - THE ON-GOING BRIEFINGS

DA DON REES:  A LEGAL RIGHT TO INFORMATION

DA Don Rees - October 2013

"Because Kaine Horman is the victim of "an apparent crime against his own child,'he has a legal right to information about his missing son.  The fact that law enforcement has necessarily conveyed this information to Kaine Horman does not waive the longstanding and well-recognized privileged and confidential nature of information relating to a pending criminal investigation.  Kaine Horman should be prohibited from answering any questions about law enforcement methods used to investigate his son's disappearance, physical evidence gathered, witness statements or questions asked by law enforcement, or whether he has testified before a grand jury."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/10/attorneys_for_kaine_horman_and.html

http://www.scribd.com/doc/174592563/Horman-Divorce-Court-Docs


MCSO:  CLOSE CONTACT

MCSO Statement - June 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.  In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."

http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosav

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KYRON'S PARENTS - CREDIBLE SOURCES

The respective words of Desiree and Kaine regarding the happenings encompassing the disappearance of their son are not derived in a vacuum.  Logic dictates that ongoing briefings with investigators imply Kyron's parents are privy to an official foundation.  In other words ... logic dictates that Desiree and Kaine's words reflect the truth in regards to the case encompassing the disappearance of their precious son.


LE OFFICIALS HAVE INFORMED ME

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010


ďLaw enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyronís disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.Ē

http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf


THEY GAVE US ALL THE EVIDENCE ON THE CASE

Desiree Young - February 22, 2011


(Video 4:00) "Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop


ALL THAT THE POLICE KNOW

Desiree Young - March 5, 2011


"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."

https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD/photos/a.149091225123584.27207.145821285450578/


POLICE NOW HAVE MOUNTING EVIDENCE

Kaine Horman - August 15, 2012


Video Excerpt (1:40) - In newly released transcript from a June hearing Kyron father say that police now have mounting evidence against the boy's stepmother.  "It significantly strengthened their believe that she had involvement. ..."

http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/01/12309684/


LOTS OF CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE

Desiree Young - September 17, 2013


"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


THIS IS THE MOMENT

Desiree Young - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?  I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971




NOT SKYLINE'S FAULT

Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015


"... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.1379216938834890/1379216938834890/?type=3&theater


NOT A STRANGER

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him.  It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."

http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko


EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS ... MULTIPLE ADULTS

Desiree Young - November 25, 2015


Video (1:24)

Young:  "He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out of the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school."

http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/


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YW Janet


 

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« Reply #878 on: August 10, 2017, 02:48:58 PM »

I'M FEARING FOR MY LIFE

Joseph Cristobal - December 9, 2016

ďIím fearing for my life.  I donít even know what she is capable of doing."  ďShe was trying to put a knife Ė a kitchen knife to my face and then she was telling me that if I talked to law enforcement that something is going to happen to me or my family.Ē
 
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-stepmother-accused-of-domestic-violence/366720210


SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO GET HURT

Desiree Young - December 6, 2016

"Come on everyone ... ask Kyron's law enforcement team for an arrest.  The DA's office needs to charge her for all the murder for hire plots, for Kyron, and for the stolen gun.  Why does she get away with this?  Someone else is going to get hurt before we put her in prison."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/pb.161645780592018.-2207520000.1481041254./1177433929013193/?type=3&theater


SHE'S A THREAT TO THE COMMUNITY

Desiree Young - February 7, 2017

"I think that she's a threat to the community. And I think that before she's in prison that she may end up hurting someone else.  She's going to be held accountable for what she's done. For Kyron and everything else. I hope that that's going to come this year."

http://ktvl.com/news/local/terris-troubles-recent-arrests-give-kyron-hormans-mother-hope


MCSO - Multnomah County Sheriff's Office
https://www.mcso.us/site/contact.php

MCDA - Multnomah County District Attorney
http://mcda.us/index.php/about-the-da/contact/

Douglas County District Attorney
Rick L. Wesenberg, DA
P.O. Box 1006
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Phone: 541-440-4388
Fax: 541-440-4403
Email:
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FIND KYRON FIRST - THE 7 1/2 YEAR INVESTIGATIVE ROAD BLOCK

Considering that 7 1/2 years later the whereabouts of Kyron has yet to be determined ... could it be that the time has come for a sealed indictment to come down?  Could it be that a trial based on circumstantial evidence/ testimonies should proceed with the faith that a jury's verdict would afford Kyron a measure of justice and his parents a measure of closure?


ASK LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR AN ARREST

Desiree Young - December 6, 2016


"Come on everyone ... ask Kyron's law enforcement team for an arrest.  The DA's office needs to charge her for all the murder for hire plots, for Kyron, and for the stolen gun. Why does she get away with this?  Someone else is going to get hurt before we put her in prison." Desiree Young - December 6, 2016

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/pb.161645780592018.-2207520000.1481041254./1177433929013193/?type=3&theater


THE BURDEN OF THE STATE

Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Grand Jury Meets, Indictment Imminent
Posted by Christina Stoy | Monday 26 July 2010 3:16 pm

45. ... August 7, 2010

EXCERPT


"There is a reason this went to a GJ and no arrest was made prior. The burdens on the state in a kidnapping/child endangerment/murder (unknown) case without recovering a victim, or physical evidence indicating bodily harm is very, very stringent. ....  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-27/#comment


MAYBE WE HAVEN'T FOUND KYRON YET

Desiree - September 17, 2013


"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


WHEN GOD BRINGS KYRON HOME

Desiree - March 5, 2011

"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."

https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD/photos/a.149091225123584.27207.145821285450578/


WHEN WE FIND KYRON

Desiree - July 11, 2014

"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron.
 They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way. Just a matter of Kyron being found first.  The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516


THE FINAL ANSWER?

Desiree - June 21, 2014

ďWe have lots of evidence. We just donít have that final thing, the final answer. Itís frustrating.  Itís not a stranger that walked into Kyronís school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.Ē

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


UNTIL WE HAVE KYRON

Desiree - July 19, 2015

"Well law enforcement is all about strategy, it doesn't make sense to the rest of us but they only get one shot to get it right.  The day that Casey Anthony took Caylee out of this life, change the way that law enforcement will proceed on cases and how they prosecute all missing child cases.  They won't put her in Jail until we have Kyron."

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