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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #46
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DEDE SPICHER
BLINK - IF TERRI HAD BEEN COMPLICIT
Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview
Posted by Christina Stoy
Thursday 21 January 2016 12:06 pm
12. ... February 25, 2016 at 11:52 pm
... One teaser *I will not comment on further* until I publish my update/interview article- is that after much diligence
I now truly understand WHY DDS was believed to be complicit
if TH had been
. Obviously it should have been ruled out early on, but I can see how MCSO went down that road so to speak.
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/01/21/kyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview/comment-page-25/#comments
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/01/21/kyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview/
THE DISCONNECT
Desiree Young - June 4, 2015
Video 2:30: "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #46
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DEDE SPICHER - THE PROSECUTOR'S STAR WITNESS?
Could it be that since communication with Terri ceased July 2010 ... Dede had been willing to submit to a polygraph ... had been willing to testify before a Grand Jury regarding the happenings encompassing the secreting of Kyron? However ... could it be that in exchange for submitting to a polygraph ... in exchange for testifying before a Grand Jury Dede's attorney was demanding immunity from prosecution in exchange for the truth regarding his client's participation in the disappearance of Kyron?
Could it be that in 2013 ... the prosecutor caved and immunity from prosecution for Dede was afforded? The outcome? Dede submitted to a polygraph and passed. She then testified before the Grand Jury.
Could it be that Dede will be the prosecutor's star witness when Terri is eventually indicted for her involvement in the secreting of Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010.
1. The 2010 Grand Jury
Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
July 26, 2010
Spicher's attorney told NBC Dateline that he would be "surprised" if Terri was not arrested in the case.
Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, SPICER'S ATTORNEY DID CONFIRM THAT HIS CLIENT WAS SUBPOENAED TO TESTIFY BUT DID NOT GIVE ANY TESTIMONY UNDER OATH MONDAY. HE SAID SHE COULD BE CALLED BACK TO TESTIFY IN THE FUTURE. ....
Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.
"I WOULD BE, FRANKLY, SURPRISED IF TERRI HORMAN DID NOT EVENTUALLY FACE CHARGES IN THIS CASE," STAVLEY SAID. "I'D BE SURPRISED IF THE INDICTMENT DIDN'T COME DOWN." ....
http://www.kgw.com/home/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html
Friend of missing boy's stepmom appears before grand jury
July 26, 2010
Stavley disputed those comments Monday, saying Spicher has been "extremely cooperative" with police as they executed search warrants on her home and car. He said she also met with the lead investigator in the case last week for more than three hours.
HE ADDED THAT SPICHER IS NOT SPEAKING TO TERRI HORMAN. ....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/26/oregon.missing.boy/
2. The 2012 Deposition
Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
November 09, 2012
Rosenthal noted in the motion that the Fifth Amendment provides that "no person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself..."
"The privilege is personal; it cannot be used to protect another person...Otherwise, the privilege could be used as a shield to protect a witness' friends, and to deny a civil litigant probative evidence."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html
The Deposition
Excerpts:
Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.
Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.
Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.
Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.
Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.
Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.
H/T - Criminal Mindz
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf
3. The 2013 Grand Jury
Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit, criminal investigation continues
July 30, 2013
A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney Elden Rosenthal.
DEDE SPICHER TESTIFIED BEFORE THE GRAND JURY FOR THE CRIMINAL CASE WITHIN THE PAST TWO WEEKS, ACCORDING TO ROSENTHAL. Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished. SHE HAD PREVIOUSLY DECLINED TO SPEAK WITH INVESTIGATORS OR TESTIFY. ....
http://www.kgw.com/news/Kyron-Horman-civil-suit--217621031.html
Lawsuit dropped, criminal investigation continues in Kyron Horman case
Jul 30, 2013
As part of Young's lawsuit, one of Terri Horman's friends, DeDe Spicher, was called in for a deposition in 2012, and she refused to answer 142 questions regarding the case. She cited her Fifth Amendment right. ....
Young said she was hopeful Spicher provided good information to the grand jury, but did not speculate on what information that could be. Spicher appeared before the grand jury at least one other time, in July 2010.
"We don't know. But I think everything's a possibility," she said. "The fact that she hadn't talked up to now. We just don't know." ....
http://www.kptv.com/story/22967375/mom-of-kyron-horman-gives-up-on-civil-case
Mother of Kyron Horman dropping civil suit
Jul 30, 2013
Meanwhile, there was a huge breakthrough in the criminal investigation. Horman's good friend, DEDE SPICHER -- WHO PREVIOUSLY REFUSED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN COURT -- TESTIFIED BEFORE AN INVESTIGATIVE GRAND JURY IN THE PAST WEEK OR TWO. ....
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mother-of-Kyron-Horman-dropping-civil-suit-217632621.html
Desiree Young drops suit against Terri Horman
July 30, 2013
Rosenthal did reveal that Terri Horman's friend, DeDe Spicher, testified this month before a grand jury. In October of 2012, Spicher invoked her Fifth Amendment rights during a sworn deposition, refusing to answer any questions regarding Horman. However, according to Rosenthal, she changed her mind.
“WE RECENTLY LEARNED THAT DEDE SPICHER DID APPEAR IN FRONT OF THE GRAND JURY A WEEK OR TWO AGO; WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE SAID," ROSENTHAL STATED. ....
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/
Kaine - July 30, 2013
“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case. Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/
Desiree - July 30, 2013
“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron. For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.”
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/
MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013
"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.
"In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."
http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa
REMINDER - THE SEALED IMMUNITY DEAL
When the timing of the 2013 Blink/Dede interview is considered ... less than two months following the immunity deal ... polygraph ... Grand Jury testimony ... the dropping of the $10,000,000 lawsuit ... could it be that an unaware Blink was being used by Dede and the MCDA as a means to send an underlying message ... an underlying message informing Terri that she was busted and it would be in her best interest to turn herself in and co-operate with the investigation ... the investigation that had yet to connect the final dot in regards to the whereabouts of a secreted Kyron?
ACCORDING TO BLINK - SEPTEMBER 2013
Blink On Crime Kyron Horman Investigation EXCLUSIVE: Terri Horman Friend DeDe Spicher Breaks Her Silence After Passing Polygraph- Requests DA Clear Her Publicly
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 4 September 2013 12:28 pm
.... It was only a few weeks ago, during a meeting with MCSO detectives Mark Herron and Keith Krafve , INVESTIGATORS UNOFFICIALLY CLEARED DEDE SPICHER OF ANY INVOLVEMENT IN KYRON'S DISAPPEARANCE OR OF HAVING ANY KNOWLEDGE OF ANYONE ELSES. SHE IS HOPEFUL THAT MULTONOMAH COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY ROD UNDERHILL WILL ISSUE A PUBLIC STATEMENT FROM HIS OFFICE CLEARING HER OFFICIALLY. ....
The Capone tactic for a woman that took the job with the understanding that it was not a paid endeavor and when Ms. Hockensmith told Spicher she wanted to compensate her she declined. Hockensmith insisted.
On this basis, DEDE WAS ADVISED TO AND AGREED TO AN IMMUNITY DEAL. The terms of which are under seal and Spicher nixed discussing citing a verbal agreement she made until such time as it is unsealed.
A source inside the investigation who does not wish to be identified as they are not authorized to speak publicly on the case- has confirmed that
Spicher’s agreement includes provisions that she continue to cooperate with law enforcement as needed
, be available to testify in any proceedings, and to take a polygraph. ....
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/
DeDe Spicher breaks silence in interview with crime blog
Sep 04, 2013
.... The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office issued a "no comment" when FOX 12 inquired about the blog's report that Spicher had been "unofficially" cleared.
The district attorney's office also issued a "no comment."
http://www.kptv.com/story/23343156/dede-spicher-breaks-silence-with-interview-on-crime-blog
Immunity from Prosecution
The Fifth Amendment of the United States Constitution prohibits the government from forcing witnesses to give self-incriminating testimony in criminal cases. Courts may evade this prohibition and force reluctant witnesses to testify by granting them immunity from prosecution. Once witnesses cannot be prosecuted for their testimony, courts may punish them if they refuse to testify.
THINK ABOUT IT
When the 2010 MFH allegation ... the 2015 theft of a firearm allegation as well as the threat encompassing the 2016 Domestic Violence allegation against Terri are considered ... could it be that the 2013 immunity deal with the prosecutor implies that Dede Spicher ... Rudy Sanchez ... Michael Cook ... Dede's former boyfriends and/or ... Sandi Lessman could be at risk? Together their court testimonies would have the ability to bring Terri down.
Desiree - December 6, 2016
"Come on everyone ... ask Kyron's law enforcement team for an arrest. The DA's office needs to charge her for all the murder for hire plots, for Kyron, and for the stolen gun.
Why does she get away with this? Someone else is going to get hurt before we put her in prison
."
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/pb.161645780592018.-2207520000.1481041254./1177433929013193/?type=3&theater
Joseph Cristoba - December 9, 2016
“I’m fearing for my life.
I don’t even know what she is capable of doing.
"
“She was trying to put a knife – a kitchen knife to my face and then
she was telling me that if I talked to law enforcement that something is going to happen to me or my family
”
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-stepmother-accused-of-domestic-violence/366720210
Desiree - February 2, 2017
"I think that she's a threat to the community.
And I think that before she's in prison that she may end up hurting someone else.
"
Video
http://ktvl.com/news/local/terris-troubles-recent-arrests-give-kyron-hormans-mother-hope
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Re: Kyron Horman, 7 years old, Portland, OR #46
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STEPHEN HOUZE'S WITNESSES?
Witnesses? What's the hold up? When the restraining order preventing Terri from contact with Kiara is considered ... after over 6 1/2 years why has Terri's $350,000 up front attorney not legally challenged in a court of law the allegations of OFFICIAL investigation spokespersons ... allegations of Desiree and Kaine ... that his client was the last person seen with Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010?
Why has Terri's $350,000 up front attorney not complied with the request of Kaine's attorney to reveal the identities of his alleged witnesses? Why has Terri's $350,000 up front attorney not called on his alleged witnesses to testify on behalf of his client ... witnesses who will attest that Terri was not the last person to be seen with Kyron ... witnesses who could provide a description of the last person allegedly seen with Kyron ... witnesses whose testimonies would be the catalyst in furthering Terri's reunification with Kiara?
Could it be that the depositions of the alleged witnesses by Terri's attorney did not happen or ... were they all for naught? Could it be that Stephen Houze' 2013 claim citing yet to be revealed witnesses be defined as "smoke and mirrors"?
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THE SECRET PHONES
Terri's Friend - August 6, 2010
KATU now knows that friends purchased cell phones to communicate with the stepmother of missing Kyron Horman after the second grader disappeared two months ago. Additionally, one of those friends did so using a fake name, according to multiple sources on Friday. A friend of Terri Horman said the secret phones were intended to provide some level of privacy with their conversations, which they felt were being monitored by law enforcement.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/100161574.html
Dede - People Magazine Interview - August 18, 2010
The pair also assumed they were under surveillance. "Any conversations that we wanted to have, we'd go out into the yard," Spicher says. "When we were in the house, we'd talk about the kids, we'd talk about her marriage, talked about her family."
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20413793,00.html
Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010
Kaine Horman said the text messages continued after she was forced out of their home on Northwest Sheltered Nook Road. ....
In text messages from June 30 through July 6 to Cook, Terri Horman referred to her criminal defense lawyer Stephen Houze as "Steve aka lawyer extrordainairre'' (sic). On July 3, she texted about the use of a "clean phone" to avoid monitoring by law enforcement, and on July 6, went to Cook's house, later telling him to lie for her or she would "get in trouble,'' Kaine Horman says in the affidavit.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/redacted-text-messages.PDF
Blink On Crime Kyron Horman Investigation Exclusive: DeDe Spicher Interview Yields Allegations Of Illegal Steroid Use Terri Horman Took To Police
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 11 September 2013 4:25 pm
Dede
"... I was advised through a meeting Terri had with a family friend and attorney that she should assume that all of her communication was being monitored by law enforcement and anyone she had contact with. He told her to assume the house was bugged as well as vehicles, etc. .... I purchased one prepaid phone, after Terri shared the info from her meeting, in my own name, either June 29th or 30th. ...."
Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/11/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-dede-spicher-interview-yields-allegations-of-illegal-steroid-use-terri-horman-took-to-police/comment-page-1/#comments
LOGIC DICTATES
Kyron Horman Missing: Kaine And Terri Horman Face Off In Family Court
Posted by Christina Stoy | Thursday 7 October 2010 11:24 pm
44. August 7, 2010
" .... What kind of conversations do you need to have outside of LE monitoring when their is a 7 year old missing would be my question." B
Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-27/#comments
Kyron Horman Missing: Kaine And Terri Horman Face Off In Family Court
Posted by Christina Stoy | Thursday 7 October 2010 11:24 pm
18. October 27, 2010
"It is just sickening. The matter of whether or not she is involved in Kyron’s disappearance aside, given her disassociative activities while her 7 year old step-son was missing, and her apparent Fugly coping, I would not let her my child under any set of circumstances. ...." B
Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/comment-page-29/
Kyron Horman Case Update: Blinkoncrime.com Legal Analyst Lea Conner Weighs In
Posted by Christina Stoy | Friday 29 October 2010 7:39 am
47. .... October 29, 2010 at 1:58 pm
I have to say I do not agree with that, and I would not let this woman near my child without a licensed professional recommending it was in KIARA’s best interests to see her Mother, of course in a controlled setting.
Analysis aside, she is batshit to behave that way.
I was reading those, throwing up in my mouth a little, and thinking, how freaking sad is this woman talking about how much she can bench. My ass she can bench that much right now anyway.
If someone comes away from those exchanges, given the situation, and thinks this woman does not need major psych help, you also believe everything in STAR magazine. B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/29/kyron-horman-case-update-blinkoncrime-com-legal-analyst-lea-conner-weighs-in/comment-page-1/#comments
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THE INDICTMENT
Dede's Attorney - Chad Stavley - August 18, 2010
"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case. I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down."
Video (.50):
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/
Kaine - October 25, 2010
“Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron’s disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.”
http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010
http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf
Kyron Horman Missing: Kaine And Terri Horman Face Off In Family Court
Posted by Christina Stoy | Thursday 7 October 2010 11:24 pm
27. Emmy says:
October 26, 2010 at 1:01 am
That court filing is quite a read. Many of the behaviors described I think have been alluded to or suspected by many, but it was something to see KH put it all down on paper. One statement in the filing I found especially interesting is
“Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron’s disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.”
I am not very well informed on the intricacies of the legal system here and who sees what and when, but I am a little confused as to why circuit court judges would be looking at this already, and we have a grand jury going. I would really appreciate it if somebody that knows, would explain this process. TIA.
This has been one of my primary reasons for suspecting that there is an indictment of some type out there. B
http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine+October+25+Filing.pdf
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/comment-page-25/#comments
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THE LESS YOU HEAR FROM US ... THE BUSIER IT IS
Kaine Horman - August 7, 2016
http://www.kptv.com/story/32704972/kyrons-wall-of-hope-will-remain
I FEEL VERY OPTIMISTIC - I AM TIRED OF WAITING
Desiree Young - December 13, 2016
Video 6:25
https://crimewatchdaily.com/2016/12/13/missing-boys-stepmom-heading-to-court-on-separate-charges/
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TYLER - AN INVESTIGATIVE CONNECTING DOT
Terri's words in a BOC post of October 25, 2016 imply that Tyler Kessinger apparently alleges that he observed Terri and Kyron at the back of the school on the morning of June 4, 2010. Think about about the location of the exit/entrance to the back of the school in relation to Kyron's classroom.
2010
The Gravel Path
Kyron Horman investigators ask public to help track white pickup Terri Horman drove
August 11, 2010
<snipped>
Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill said a witness, or witnesses, have reported seeing someone else by the Hormans' extended-cab pickup while it was parked in front of the school between 8:15 a.m. and 8:45 a.m. on June 4, the day Kyron disappeared.
Authorities are seeking to identify the person, or persons, who may have been spotted by the truck as it was parked outside the school's front fence in the shoulder of Northwest Skyline Boulevard.
Someone possibly moved the pickup and parked it up a gravel path in front of the school's playground while Terri Moulton Horman was inside the school with her stepson for his science fair.
Underhill said investigators want to identify anybody "in or in immediate proximity to that truck."
"We're looking for additional witnesses," he added, standing in the Brooks Hill Historic Church across from the school in front of blown-up photos of the Horman truck staged at each location.
The appeal to the public comes as investigators continue to try to determine the whereabouts of Terri Moulton Horman and her friend DeDe Spicher during overlapping hours on the day Kyron disappeared.
<snipped>
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html
THE QUESTIONAIRE
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/questionaire.pdf
THE FLIER
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/TRUCKPressConferenceFlier.pdf
2013
BOC - The South Entrance - The Front Entrance
Kyron Horman Exclusive Report: New Suspect And Botched Investigation Rumors Abound- Terri Horman Prepares To Fight For Couples Daughter Following Seclusion
Posted by Christina Stoy |Tuesday 6 August 2013 8:29 pm
.... The following is a summation of multiple direct witness accounts, edited to protect witness identification only.
“…He must have been standing behind me because I only recall hearing him ask if the boy could help him bring some stuff in from his truck. I thought it was (edited) until he looked up at him and then he looked at Ms. Matthews for approval and she nodded her head yes in response. They walked out the South entrance together and I do not recall seeing either of them again. ...."
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-1/#comment
The North Door - The Back Door
Kyron Horman Exclusive Report: New Suspect And Botched Investigation Rumors Abound- Terri Horman Prepares To Fight For Couples Daughter Following Seclusion
Posted by Christina Stoy | Tuesday 6 August 2013 8:29 pm
21. ... vw says:
August 7, 2013 at 3:37 am
Blink,
The “south” entrance is through the front doors to the school.
The East entrance is to the parking lot that the busses would come in to, and a SZ leaving thru this door would have to walk past the main office.
The North doors, however are in the back of the school. One “north door” is in the middle of the school and would be between Kyron’s room and the Main Office. It leads to the playground, the basketball covered courts and some north parking spaces in front of an out building
Another North door leads out to the same are thru the gym. A final north door, closer to the soccer field leads into the same areas thru the mechanical wing.
A car could have been parked in that area once the 8:45 bell rang and might be unnoticed.
The busses would have been gone by 8:45 and many parents would have left by then.
I will send you some pictures of these doors.
Thank you vw, I am aware, and I have pics of all the entrances and exits of the school. It was the North emergency exit door next to CR109. B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-1/#comment-2178255
2015
Desiree - November 25, 2015
Video (1:24)
Young: "He was in his classroom. He got the photo taken by Terri and he
according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because
Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school
.
"
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/
2016
Blink - July 26, 2016
Kyron Horman Missing Case: Terri Horman Breaks Her Silence In People Magazine Interview
Posted by Christina Stoy | Thursday 21 January 2016 12:06 pm
24. .... July 26, 2016 at 3:47 am
" .... Someone is going to need to explain to me how everyone , absolutely everyone tasked with investigating this case believed the ginger duo was responsible, with the full and concise knowledge that
Kyron was last seen leaving the school out the South entrance with an as yet unknown and unidentified Male
= same. Six years later it seems to me a child who was seven then, is counting on a better effort." B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/01/21/kyron-horman-missing-case-terri-horman-breaks-her-silence-in-people-magazine-interview/comment-page-74/
Terri - October 25, 2016
Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm
50. ... TMH says:
October 25, 2016 at 12:45 pm
....
I will say Tyler didn’t see me in the back of the school on the 4th. He was mistaken.
I was out front the entire time.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-14/#comments
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2017
ACCORDING TO BLINK - NO REQUEST?
Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm
50. March 21, 2017 at 10:06 am
.... In my view, neither MCSO nor MCDA have sought an interview with TH through her counsel because it has the potential to support a possible claim against the offices and/or individuals, Horman would be in a very compelling position to point out her awareness that there is in fact no evidence against her in any previous allegation and LE is willfully ignoring the facts I mention above.
I can say without reservation I have never once received any other logical explanation as to why nobody in LE has requested an interview with their chief suspect and continued gj target in over 6 years
and I ask that hypothetical all the time- and that includes a query to MCSO own peers. .... B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-47/#comments
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/
2016
ACCORDING TO KAINE - THEY ARE WAITING
Kaine Horman: Investigators still waiting to talk to Kyron's stepmom
Jan 20, 2016
"We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!! ...."
http://www.kptv.com/story/31013062/kaine-horman-investigators-still-waiting-to-talk-to-kyrons-stepmom
ACCORDING TO MCSO/MCDA - THE INVITATION
Statement - MCSO & District Attorney's Office
September 21, 2016
“Kyron Horman’s parents and members of the public should know that the investigation into Kyron’s disappearance is active, ongoing and includes a recent search effort,” a joint statement from the Multnomah County sheriff’s office and district attorney’s office said.
Ms. Horman has an open invitation to speak with MCSO.
The Multnomah County District Attorney's Office was in contact with defense attorney Stephen Houze earlier this week and was advised that he continues to represent Terri Horman.
Mr. Houze requests no contact with Ms. Horman by law enforcement absent his authorization and her consent.
"
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/search-for-kyron-horman-happened-last-weekend-sheriffs-office-confirms/323175896
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THE DEPOSITIONS??
If there are witness depositions that allege Kyron was observed leaving Skyline on the morning of June 4, 2010 with someone other than Terri ... why are the outcomes of those depositions not revealed by Stephen Houze.
2017
According to Blink - Depositions on Record
Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm
50. March 21, 2017 at 10:06 am
....
there are depositions on the record that confirm and memorialize SZ and the circumstances surrounding the last time Kyron was witnessed in that classroom and exiting
same
as well as confirmations of TH activities at the school and with personnel that completely dispel she removed Kyron by herself or through a third party. Fast forward to recent events in CA that are apparently connected to MCSO involvement directly. B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-44/#comments
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/
THE DISCONNECT
Stephen Houze - September 13, 2013
"It's not true," Houze said of the claims Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron that day.
"We have witnesses who will say, in fact, they know facts first-hand that demonstrate that is not true."
http://www.kptv.com/story/23425918/attorney-terri-horman-wasnt-last-person-to-see-kyron-horman-at-school
Court Records - September 13, 2013
Court records indicate that Terri Horman's lawyers subpoenaed O'Donnell, as well as three Skyline School employees Kyron's second-grade teacher Kristine Porter, kindergarten/first grade teacher
Easter Mathews
and school secretary Susan Hall. They subpoenaed to deposte three children who attended Skyline School, and staff of Fred Meyer, Magic Cleaners and 24 Hour Fitness.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_to_rule_by_monday_on_wha.html
Judge Kantor - September 16, 2013
Lawyers for Terri Moulton Horman can't question one of the lead sheriff's investigators in the disappearance of her stepson Kyron Horman,
but can start deposing faculty at the missing boy's school
and adults at area businesses, according to a judge's ruling Monday. Multnomah County Circuit Court Judge Henry Kantor also said Horman's lawyers can't question young students who were subpoenaed by Terri Horman's lawyers. Kantor said he was concerned because they're minors and might divulge information they provided to a grand jury in the ongoing criminal inquiry, and he did not know whether the students or their parents had obtained lawyers.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_rules_terri_hormans_lawy.html
Kaine's Attorney - October 10, 2013
At the previous hearing, Terri Horman's attorney claimed he can prove his client was
not the last person to see Kyron at Skyline School.
Now, Kaine Horman's attorney is demanding access to any documents that led Terri's legal team to make that assertion
.
http://www.kptv.com/story/23657846/terri-horman-divorce-case-back-in-court-today
Kaine's Attorney - October 9, 2013
The court documents indicate Kaine Horman's lawyer requested information from Terri Horman on the person or persons you contend have knowledge that Terri Horman was not the last person to see Kyron Horman on June 4, 2010 at Skyline School.
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/25/12570816/
Terri Horman - August 14, 2014
"He (Stephen Houze) stated in court I was in fact not the last person to have seen Kyron. My lawyer has witnesses to prove it."
http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/08/four_women_who_opposed_terri_h.html
Terri Horman - Attorneys - May 31, 2015
Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day,
but haven't offered further explanation
. She has never faced charges.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html
Terri Horman - 2015
"I have no knowledge where Kyron may be and have proclaimed my innocence of any wrongdoing to law enforcement as well as I was not the last person to be seen with him to which my attorney has stated in court, on the record."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/01/terri_horman_stepmom_of_missin.html
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THOSE WHO OBSERVED TERRI AND KYRON
Official unretracted statements as well as Desiree's unretracted own words ... words that logic dictates would be derived from an official foundation during briefings with investigators ... imply that it was Terri who was last observed by school staff with Kyron ... it was Terri who witnesses observed leaving the school with Kyron.
2017
According to Blink - Terri's Activities? Personnel?
Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm
50. March 21, 2017 at 10:06 am
.... there are depositions on the record that confirm and memorialize SZ and the circumstances surrounding the last time Kyron was witnessed in that classroom and exiting same
as well as confirmations of TH activities at the school and with personnel that completely dispel she removed Kyron by herself or through a third party
. Fast forward to recent events in CA that are apparently connected to MCSO involvement directly. B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-44/#comments
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/
THE DISCONNECT
2010
Matt Shelby - June 7, 2010
Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.
He said it was common for parents to pick up kids this way, so no suspicions were raised.
http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=28
Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010
Witnesses said Kyron arrived at the school with his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, on Friday morning, perhaps about 8 a.m. The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. ....
However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom
.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html
Sheriff's Captain Jason Gates - June 21, 2010
There was one new piece of information:
"Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared."
http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624
2013
MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013
"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/
2015
Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015
" .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further.
It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's
. ...."
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&r
Desiree Young - May 21, 2015
"
Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared.
Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron? I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971
Desiree Young - June 4, 2015
"
Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it.
I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance
Desiree Young - June 4, 2015
"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle."
"We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact."
http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko
Desiree Young - November 25, 2015
Video (1:24) "It was exactly between 8:45 and 8:55. ... He was in his classroom. He got the photo taken by Terri and he
according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school.."
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/
2016
Desiree Young - ABC News - January 20, 2016
"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day. She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that. Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision. We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone
and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline
. We know who did this. We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."
http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt
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AN ARREST? WHEN KYRON IS FOUND?
2010
Blink - August 7, 2010
Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Grand Jury Meets, Indictment Imminent
Posted by Christina Stoy | Monday 26 July 2010 3:16 pm
45. ... August 7, 2010
" .... There is a reason this went to a GJ and no arrest was made prior.
The burdens on the state in a kidnapping/child endangerment/murder (unknown) case without recovering a victim, or physical evidence indicating bodily harm is very, very stringent
. .... B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-27/#comments
2011
Desiree - March 5, 2011
"
I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home
. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."
https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD
2013
Desiree - September 17, 2013
"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.
Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance.
"
http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues
2014
Desiree - June 21, 2014
“
We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer.
It’s frustrating. .... ”
http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/
Desiree - July 11, 2014
"
DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron.
They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way. Just a matter of Kyron being found first. The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516
2015
Desiree - July 19, 2015
"Well law enforcement is all about strategy, it doesn't make sense to the rest of us but they only get one shot to get it right. ....
They won't put her in Jail until we have Kyron
."
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.852969098126346/852969098126346/?type=1&theater
2016
Desiree - January 20, 2016
"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day. She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that. Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law Enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision. We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline.
We know who did this. We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances.
I know that fate will step in
."
http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt
A FORTHCOMING ARREST?
Desiree - December 6, 2016
"Come on everyone ... ask Kyron's law enforcement team for an arrest.
The DA's office needs to charge her for all the murder for hire plots, for Kyron, and for the stolen gun. Why does she get away with this? Someone else is going to get hurt before we put her in prison.
"
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/pb.161645780592018.-2207520000.1481041254./1177433929013193/?type=3&theater
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THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM?
The recent silence from Kyron's family is deafening. Could it be that an indictment which has been sealed since early on in the investigation will finally be opened and Terri will be charge with participating in the secreting of Kyron?
Considering 6 1/2 years have passed and the location of secreted Kyron has yet to be determined ... could it be that charges against Terri will be forthcoming based on circumstantial evidence? Could it be that Kyron will be afforded a measure of justice and ... his parents will be afforded a measure of closure?
Could it be that prosecution witnesses who have been granted immunity ... prosecution witnesses who have testified before the Grand Jury ... will be the catalyst? Think about it. Terri and Dede have not spoken since July 2010.
BEHIND THE INVESTIGATIVE SCENES
2015
MCSO Statement - May 28, 2015
"The Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and our agency partners in this investigation
remain committed to solving this crime, and bringing Kyron home.
....
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/KH%20Missing%20PR(1).pdf
Kaine Horman - June 3, 2015
Kaine said there's a big push to re-interview people detectives initially talked with and expand those interviews beyond what happened on or around June 4, 2010.
....
http://www.katu.com/news/investigators/Five-years-later-why-Kyron-Hormans-dad-believes-hes-alive-305768091.html
Desiree Young - July 20, 2015
"They are very busy right now. ...."
"Working to re-interview everyone involved in the case. Oh yeah, lots of progress recently."
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.853397301416859/853397301416859/?type=1&theater
2016
Kaine Horman - August 7, 2016
At the car show, Horman addressed those in attendance and updated them on the case. He told Fox 12 it is still very active.
"The less you hear from us the busier it is," Horman said. "We have more resources that are funning down new leads ...."
http://www.kptv.com/story/32704972/kyrons-wall-of-hope-will-remain
Blink - September 25, 2016
Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm
27. .... September 25, 2016 at 3:57 pm
....
There is a new team in place in Kyron's investigation.
More on that later. B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-5/#comments
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/
Desiree Young - December 13, 2016
Video 6:25
"I really hope that she is going to be held accountable for this charge. I believe that if the right things are done it could lead to answers for us."
"We have had tons of new developments. We have had new resources dedicated to Kyron's case on the Law Enforcement side, and so we have had a lot of activity I would say in the last six months and it gives me a new feeling of optimism I haven't had in a long time.
" .... There have been several searches. They don't advertise but I AM INFORMED and they are all acting on solid information and physical evidence in the case."
"I feel very optimistic this year. I'm feeling those butterfly feelings in my stomach and I feel like we are getting somewhere and I am really hoping for answers. I am tired of waiting."
https://crimewatchdaily.com/2016/12/13/missing-boys-stepmom-heading-to-court-on-separate-charges/
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A KNOWLEDGE OF THINGS
It makes sense that in briefings with investigators Kaine and Desiree have been informed of "a knowledge of things" that Sheriff Staton references. It makes sense that "a knowledge of things" involves Terri or ... the focus of Kyron's parents in their quest for answers encompassing the disappearance of their son would have taken another direction.
I cannot comprehend any parent not fully empathizes with the literal h--- on earth Desiree and Kaine have endured for 6 1/2 years.
+++++
Sheriff Dan Staton - September 15, 2010
“I think that there will be things that come out of this investigation that will surprise you. That you’ll think about later on after it’s over. These are things I will tell you, when you ask me about the stresses that my staff is under and the other detectives and agency representatives are under, is that we have a knowledge of things that we don’t want to know about.
We have knowledge of things we wished we didn't.
"
http://www.katu.com/news/local/103005759.html
Desiree - March 5, 2011
"I have full confidence in the truth and in God,
He will reveal all that I know and all that the police know
when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."
https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD
Luke 8:17: "For all that is secret will eventually be brought into the open, and everything that is concealed will be brought to light and made known to all."
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THE TRIAL?
Could it be that a May trial in Yuba, California ... rather than a fine ... rather than a plea deal ... implies that the 2015 misdemeanor theft of a firearm charge against Terri does not stand alone? In other words ... it's complicated.
Think about it. Restraining and no-contact orders of 2010, 2013 and 2014 stipulated that Terri was legally forbidden by the courts in Oregon to purchase or possess a firearm and ... vetting will reveal that the rulings of the judges did not occur in a vacuum?
Kyle Iboshi (KGW-TV)
1 hr · (February 6, 2017)
A trial date has been set for May 16th for Terri Horman (aka Terri Moulton) in Yuba County Superior Court. Horman is charged with grand theft firearm. ....
https://www.facebook.com/KyleIboshiKGWTV/
Terri Moulton Horman
02/08/2017 Subpoena Issued
02/27/2017 Subpoena Documents Received
04/14/2017 PreTrial Conference
Judicial Officer
Wirtschafter, Benjamin Z
Hearing Time 1:30 PM
05/12/2017 Trial Setting Conference
Judicial Officer
Wirtschafter, Benjamin Z
Hearing Time 1:30 PM
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Judicial Officer
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A MOTHER'S CONCERN
Desiree - December 5, 2016
"The gun charge further reinforces the idea that we have the right person."
"I think that her time is running out and I think that she knows that. We are getting closer and closer to her and I think that she should be scared. ....
I am concerned that what will end up happening is someone is going to be harmed, in addition to Kyron, and that is when we’ll be able to hold her accountable.
I really hope that is not going to be the case but I really have this feeling. There are so many cases that we are familiar with and it is unfortunate but that is sometimes the catalyst that ends up getting them arrested is some other crime or problem."
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-stepmother-faces-gun-charges-in-california/363391732
Desiree - December 6, 2016
"Come on everyone ... ask Kyron's law enforcement team for an arrest. The DA's office needs to charge her for all the murder for hire plots, for Kyron, and for the stolen gun. Why does she get away with this?
Someone else is going to get hurt before we put her in prison
."
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/pb.161645780592018.-2207520000.1481041254./1177433929013193/?type=3&theater
Desiree - February 2, 2017
"I think that she's a threat to the community.
And I think that before she's in prison that she may end up hurting someone else.
"
Video
http://ktvl.com/news/local/terris-troubles-recent-arrests-give-kyron-hormans-mother-hope
AFFIRMATION
Joseph Cristoba - December 9, 2016
“I’m fearing for my life. I don’t even know what she is capable of doing."
“She was trying to put a knife – a kitchen knife to my face and then she was telling me that if I talked to law enforcement that something is going to happen to me or my family”
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-stepmother-accused-of-domestic-violence/366720210
Official Contacts
Honorable Benjamin Z. Wirtschafter
215 Fifth Street, Suite 200
Marysville, CA 95901
Patrick McGrath, District Attorney
215 5th. St.
Marysville, CA 95901
pmcgrath@co.yuba.ca.us
Fax: (530) 749-7363
Media Contacts
Kyle Iboshi
Kiboshi@kgw.com
https://www.facebook.com/KyleIboshiKGWTV/
Maxine Bernstein
mbernstein@oregonian.com
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NO SOUGHT AFTER INTERVIEW?
BLINK - MARCH 21, 2017
Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm
50. .... March 21, 2017 at 10:06 am
....
In my view, neither MCSO nor MCDA have sought an interview with TH through her counsel
because it has the potential to support a possible claim against the offices and/or individuals, Horman would be in a very compelling position to point out her awareness that there is in fact no evidence against her in any previous allegation and LE is willfully ignoring the facts I mention above. I can say without reservation I have never once received any other logical explanation as to why nobody in LE has requested an interview with their chief suspect and continued gj target in over 6 years and I ask that hypothetical all the time- and that includes a query to MCSO own peers. .... B
AN OPEN INVITATION
Quote from: Tamikosmom on September 21, 2016, 09:39:57 PM
BLINK - SEPTEMBER 21, 2016
Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm
28. .... September 21, 2016 at 7:59 pm
Who said Underhill reached out to Houze? B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-1/#comments
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/
MCSO & MCDA STATEMENT - OCTOBER 21, 2016
Statement - MCSO & District Attorney's Office
September 21, 2016
"Kyron Horman's parents and members of the public should know that the investigation into Kyron's disappearance is active, ongoing and includes a recent search effort.
Ms. Horman has an open invitation to speak with MCSO.
The Multnomah County District Attorney's Office was in contact with defense attorney Stephen Houze earlier this week and was advised that he continues to represent Terri Horman. Mr. Houze requests no contact with Ms. Horman by law enforcement absent his authorization and her consent.
"
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/search-for-kyron-horman-happened-last-weekend-sheriffs-office-confirms/323175896
THEY ARE WAITING!!
KAINE - JANUARY 20, 2016
Kaine Horman - January 20, 2016
" .... We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate.
FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!!
.... "
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=1542490139366963&story_fbid=1676175579331751
http://www.kptv.com/story/31013062/kaine-horman-investigators-still-waiting-to-talk-to-kyrons-stepmom
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DID NOT HAPPEN?
Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm
26. ....April 11, 2017 at 6:04 pm
" ....
DY has stated publicly both in her civil filing and in statement that TH was responsible for secreting her son (or worse) and that TH had emailed the school to “excuse” him.
Did not happen
, but never the less, those positions appear to be pretty absolving to the school’s liability or negligence. ...." B
Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-47/#comments
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/
THE DISCONNECT
Desiree - November 25, 2015
Video (1:24)
Young:
"He was in his classroom. He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school."
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/
Desiree - March 5, 2011
"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, He will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."
https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD
Kaine Horman - August 15, 2012
Video Excerpt (1:40) - In newly released transcript from a June hearing Kyron father say that police now have MOUNTING EVIDENCE against the boy's stepmother. "It significantly strengthened their believe that she had involvement. ..."
http://www.kgw.com/story/local/2015/07/01/12309684/
Kaine - October 25, 2010
“Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron’s disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.”
http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010
http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf
Desiree - July 11, 2014
"DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way. Just a matter of Kyron being found first. The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516
Desiree - May 29, 2015
" .... Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ...."
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&r
Desiree and Kaine - June 4, 2015
"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle," said Young.
Kyron's parents believe someone else may have also been involved.
"We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact," Young said.
"We need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.
http://kobi5.com/news/local-news/item/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong.html#.VaRVeflViko
Desiree Young - June 4, 2015
Video 2:30: "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance
Desiree - January 20, 2016
"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day. She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that. Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision. We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline. We know who did this. We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."
http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt
AN INVESTIGATIVE FOUNDATION
The above words of Kyron's parents were not pulled out of think air. Logic dictates that those words had an investigative foundation otherwise respective attorneys would have launched a huge lawsuit against PPS long ago.
MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013
"
The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.
"In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."
http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa
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WHAT MORE CAN KYRON'S PARENTS DO??
Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm
26. ....April 11, 2017 at 6:04 pm
".... His parents are not doing all they could to locate him, or progressing his investigation and it pains me to say that." B
Read more:
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-47/#comments
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/
THE DISCONNECT
2016
Terri Horman - January 25, 2016
Video: 4:30
Interviewer: Much of the media speculation about her whereabouts that day centers here on Sauvie Island where police repeatedly searched. There were widespread but unconfirmed reports that her cell phone was pinging from that location during that unaccounted time.
Terri: Highway 30 runs parallel to Sauvie Island.
I was on Highway 30.
I was never on Sauvie Island. Never.
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/terri-horman-details-happened-stepsons-disappearance-36518300
Capt. Steve Alexander - MCSO Spokesman - September 22, 2016
Alexander did confirm deputies conducted a search over the weekend near
the Wildwood Golf Course off of U.S. 30
in connection with the case.
"Details on what investigators were searching for is not available," Alexander said.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/09/multnomah_county_sheriffs_offi_18.html
Desiree - December 5, 2016
"
I think that her time is running out and I think that she knows that. We are getting closer and closer to her and I think that she should be scared
. .... I am concerned that what will end up happening is someone is going to be harmed, in addition to Kyron, and that is when we’ll be able to hold her accountable. I really hope that is not going to be the case but I really have this feeling. There are so many cases that we are familiar with and it is unfortunate but that is sometimes the catalyst that ends up getting them arrested is some other crime or problem."
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-stepmother-faces-gun-charges-in-california/363391732
Desiree Young - December 13, 2016
Video 6:25
"I really hope that she is going to be held accountable for this charge. I believe that if the right things are done it could lead to answers for us."
"We have had tons of new developments. We have had new resources dedicated to Kyron's case on the Law Enforcement side, and so we have had a lot of activity I would say in the last six months and it gives me a new feeling of optimism I haven't had in a long time.
" .... There have been several searches. They don't advertise but
I AM INFORMED
and they are all acting on solid information and physical evidence in the case."
"I feel very optimistic this year. I'm feeling those butterfly feelings in my stomach and I feel like we are getting somewhere and I am really hoping for answers. I am tired of waiting."
https://crimewatchdaily.com/2016/12/13/missing-boys-stepmom-heading-to-court-on-separate-charges/
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REMINDER
Tomorrow is the Pre-trial Conference. I would give almost anything to be a fly on the wall.
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Quote from: Tamikosmom on April 02, 2017, 10:14:50 AM
THE TRIAL?
Could it be that a May trial in Yuba, California ... rather than a fine ... rather than a plea deal ... implies that the 2015 misdemeanor theft of a firearm charge against Terri does not stand alone? In other words ... it's complicated.
Think about it. Restraining and no-contact orders of 2010, 2013 and 2014 stipulated that Terri was legally forbidden by the courts in Oregon to purchase or possess a firearm and ... vetting will reveal that the rulings of the judges did not occur in a vacuum?
Kyle Iboshi (KGW-TV)
1 hr · (February 6, 2017)
A trial date has been set for May 16th for Terri Horman (aka Terri Moulton) in Yuba County Superior Court. Horman is charged with grand theft firearm. ....
https://www.facebook.com/KyleIboshiKGWTV/
Terri Moulton Horman
02/08/2017 Subpoena Issued
02/27/2017 Subpoena Documents Received
04/14/2017 PreTrial Conference
Judicial Officer
Wirtschafter, Benjamin Z
Hearing Time 1:30 PM
05/12/2017 Trial Setting Conference
Judicial Officer
Wirtschafter, Benjamin Z
Hearing Time 1:30 PM
05/16/2017 Jury Trial
Judicial Officer
Jury, Trial
Hearing Time 8:30 AM
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UPDATE
PRE-TRIAL CONFERENCE - APRIL 14, 2017
H/T - WS
Judy McQueen
They scheduled another pre trial conference for April 21st. This was not previously on the calendar, but added to it after the pre trial conference earlier today.
Judy McQueen
The "pretrial" process refers to
•court appearances
•motions (such as a Penal Code 995 PC "motion to set aside the complaint" or a Penal Code 1538.5 PC "motion to suppress evidence"),
•discovery issues (ensuring that your criminal defense attorney and the prosecution are exchanging all relevant evidence and witness information), and
•any plea bargains or negotiations
that take place before a criminal trial
Judy McQueen
As of today, the trial is still going to happen.
https://www.facebook.com/Kyron-Hormans-World-Soldiers-161645780592018/
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===> Nevaeh Amyah Buchanan 5yr Monroe Michigan(BODY FOUND)
===> Gabriel Johnson 8 mo., last seen 12/26/09 Tempe AZ-San Antonio TX
===> Stacy Ann Peterson missing & Kathleen Savio murdered - Illinois
===> Zahra Clare Baker - 10yrs old Hickory, NC (Body Found)
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Natalee Holloway
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Important Case Documents
===> Joran Statements/PV's
===> Paulus Statements/PV's
===> Deepak Statements/PV's
===> Satish Statements/PV's
===> Misc Statements/PV's
=> LCD Archive
=> Shango/Simian and other Codetalkers
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Current Events and Musings
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=> Monkey Musings / Open Discussion
=> Pop Culture Main
===> Hugely Popular TV Shows
===> Movies and Television
===> Social Media
===> Music
===> Books
===> Scared Monkeys Radio with Dana Pretzer
=> Health and Medical Issues
=> Food and Product Recalls
=> News of the Day
=> Business News
=> Sports
=> Political Forum
=> Religion (discussion and debate)
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The Monkey Lounge
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=> The Monkey Lounge
===> Fashion & Decorating
===> What's Cooking? Recipes
===> Games
=> Inspirational
===> Memorial - Gone but Never Forgotten
===> Gratefulness - Light a Candle in Prayer
===> Inspirational scriptures, songs, stories and prayers
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Natalee Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> Natalee Holloway
=> Theory and Speculation
=> Links and References Only
=> Natalee Breaking News Archive
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General Discussions (2005 ARCHIVE)
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=> News Issues
=> Chit Chat
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