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« Reply #820 on: July 11, 2017, 08:50:16 AM »


Good morning Monkey's and Guest,

 

I hope Janet you won't mind if I repost the time line for TMH.  I realize it prob is over at who's who section.  T.Y.

CW - I clicked the satellite square on one of your maps and it really makes the map pop. T.Y.


 
Kyron Horman: Timeline of events since boy's disappearance

By The Oregonian/OregonLive

updated May 28, 2015 at 3:49 PM

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_chronology_of_eve.html
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« Reply #821 on: July 11, 2017, 09:12:47 AM »

Hi Janet and everyone.
I ran across this old link and wanted to share as it mentions the roads from yesterdays search.
Still praying for little Kyron and his Mama and Daddy.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html

Kyron Horman investigators ask public to help track white pickup Terri Horman drove

 




(Video clarification: Authorities are seeking information from people who may have seen Terri Horman driving her husband's white Ford F-250 pickup along Northwest Springville Road, Northwest Skyline Boulevard, Springville to Newberry Road, or along Old Germantown and Germantown roads between 10:15 and 11:30 a.m on Friday, June 4.  In the video above, the times are misstated by Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill.)
 


 
Good morning: Janet, KarmaRoundUp, CW316, Monkey's and Guest

What is interesting is someone allegedly moved the truck while TMH was in the school.  

Blink straightened the monkeys out that DDS was cleared. Who moved the truck, or was it DDS? who was not involved.  

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html
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« Reply #822 on: July 11, 2017, 09:31:45 AM »

 




I am trying very hard to understand why TMH who has a 'son' is missing would want to change her name.


Thanks to Janet who informed us who Claire Stella Sullivan was in past posts.  I am posting FB, link, because TMH, photo, bad lighting?  
TMH is just a rough looking character, in my opinion. A poster on another blog opinion, TMH, may have wanted to leave the Country.
Why not try for a name change like, Terri Smith? IMO. I wonder if Terri has a passport?  I hope Dr. Phil will ask her. IMO.

 
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www.facebook.com/whereiskyronterriclaire/

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« Reply #823 on: July 11, 2017, 10:42:58 AM »

Good Morning All!!!  seahorse ... your input is appreciated.  I had my cuppa coffee ... the cobwebs are clearing and ... I am ready to go!

Janet (8:30 am PT)

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« Reply #824 on: July 11, 2017, 10:47:02 AM »


 
DeDe Spicher  Defends Terri Horman

Video:  1:10/ 2:51  Published on Aug 18, 2010

Harry Smith talks to former Sheriff's Capt. Bruce McCain, about Terri Horman's friend, DeDe Spicher and her recent People magazine interview.

 

ME: The late, Bruce McCain, said it was up to three hours (roughly) 10:00 -1:00, DDS, was missing.

This is the first time I heard it may have been longer than an hour and half.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm_QomRAOlY

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« Reply #825 on: July 11, 2017, 10:48:58 AM »

Dede has cooperated with investigators from very early on based on 2010 quotes from her attorney but ... she would not testify under oath in depositions and/or Grand Juries until 2013 regarding the happenings on the morning of June 4, 2010 ... happenings encompassing the secreting of Kyron.  Think about it.  According to Dede's own attorney states that his client has not had contact with Terri since July 2010.  Why?

IMMUNITY FROM PROSECUTION

Immunity from prosecution is a legal doctrine that permits a person to avoid being prosecuted for a criminal offense. This is usually granted in exchange for something that the prosecution needs, such as information about someone else who has committed a more serious crime.


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« Reply #826 on: July 11, 2017, 10:50:59 AM »

DEDE SPICHER - WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION?

Could it be that in 2013 ... the prosecutor finally caved to the terms of Dede Spicher's attorney?

Could it be that immunity from prosecution for his client was afforded in exchange for her full co-operation regarding her involvement as well as knowledge of the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Kyron Horman?

Could it be that after three years Dede finally submitted to a polygraph ... testified
regarding the happenings of June 20, 2010 and passed?

Could it be that it was then that she testified before the 2013 Grand Jury without citing the Fifth Amendment?

Could it be that Dede will be the prosecutor's star witness when Terri is eventually indicted for her involvement in the secreting of Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010?


1.  The 2010 Grand Jury

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
July 26, 2010


Spicher's attorney told NBC Dateline that he would be "surprised" if Terri was not arrested in the case.

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavley said. "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down.
http://www.kgw.com/home/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html


Friend of missing boy's stepmom appears before grand jury
July 26, 2010


Stavley disputed those comments Monday, saying Spicher has been "extremely cooperative" with police as they executed search warrants on her home and car. He said she also met with the lead investigator in the case last week for more than three hours.

He added that Spicher is not speaking to Terri Horman. ....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/26/oregon.missing.boy/


2.  The 2012 Deposition

Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
November 09, 2012


Rosenthal noted in the motion that the Fifth Amendment provides that "no person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself..."

"The privilege is personal; it cannot be used to protect another person...Otherwise, the privilege could be used as a shield to protect a witness' friends, and to deny a civil litigant probative evidence."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html


The Deposition

Excerpts:


Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

H/T - Criminal Mindz
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


3.  The 2013 Grand Jury

Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit, criminal investigation continues
July 30, 2013


A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney Elden Rosenthal.

DeDe Spicher testified before the grand jury for the criminal case within the past two weeks, according to Rosenthal.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify. ....
http://www.kgw.com/news/Kyron-Horman-civil-suit--217621031.html


Lawsuit dropped, criminal investigation continues in Kyron Horman case
Jul 30, 2013


As part of Young's lawsuit, one of Terri Horman's friends, DeDe Spicher, was called in for a deposition in 2012, and she refused to answer 142 questions regarding the case. She cited her Fifth Amendment right. ....

Young said she was hopeful Spicher provided good information to the grand jury, but did not speculate on what information that could be. Spicher appeared before the grand jury at least one other time, in July 2010.

"We don't know. But I think everything's a possibility," she said. "The fact that she hadn't talked up to now. We just don't know."
....
http://www.kptv.com/story/22967375/mom-of-kyron-horman-gives-up-on-civil-case


Mother of Kyron Horman dropping civil suit
Jul 30, 2013


Meanwhile, there was a huge breakthrough in the criminal investigation. Horman's good friend, Dede Spicher -- who previously refused to answer questions in court -- testified before an investigative Grand Jury in the past week or two. ....
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mother-of-Kyron-Horman-dropping-civil-suit-217632621.html


Desiree Young drops suit against Terri Horman
July 30, 2013


Rosenthal did reveal that Terri Horman's friend, DeDe Spicher, testified this month before a grand jury.  In October of 2012, Spicher invoked her Fifth Amendment rights during a sworn deposition, refusing to answer any questions regarding Horman. However, according to Rosenthal, she changed her mind.

“We recently learned that Dede Spicher did appear in front of the Grand Jury a week or two ago; we don't know what she said," Rosenthal stated. ....
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/


Kaine - July 30, 2013

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case. Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Desiree - July 30, 2013

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron. For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.”
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

"In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."
http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa


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Video 2:30:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance
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« Reply #827 on: July 11, 2017, 11:14:51 AM »

DEDE SPICHER - WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION?

Could it be that in 2013 ... the prosecutor finally caved to the terms of Dede Spicher's attorney?

Could it be that immunity from prosecution for his client was afforded in exchange for her full co-operation regarding her involvement as well as knowledge of the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Kyron Horman?

Could it be that after three years Dede finally submitted to a polygraph ... testified
regarding the happenings of June 20, 2010 and passed?

Could it be that it was then that she testified before the 2013 Grand Jury without citing the Fifth Amendment?

Could it be that Dede will be the prosecutor's star witness when Terri is eventually indicted for her involvement in the secreting of Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010?


1.  The 2010 Grand Jury

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
July 26, 2010


Spicher's attorney told NBC Dateline that he would be "surprised" if Terri was not arrested in the case.

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavley said. "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down.
http://www.kgw.com/home/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html


Friend of missing boy's stepmom appears before grand jury
July 26, 2010


Stavley disputed those comments Monday, saying Spicher has been "extremely cooperative" with police as they executed search warrants on her home and car. He said she also met with the lead investigator in the case last week for more than three hours.

He added that Spicher is not speaking to Terri Horman. ....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/26/oregon.missing.boy/


2.  The 2012 Deposition

Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
November 09, 2012


Rosenthal noted in the motion that the Fifth Amendment provides that "no person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself..."

"The privilege is personal; it cannot be used to protect another person...Otherwise, the privilege could be used as a shield to protect a witness' friends, and to deny a civil litigant probative evidence."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html


The Deposition

Excerpts:


Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

H/T - Criminal Mindz
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


3.  The 2013 Grand Jury

Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit, criminal investigation continues
July 30, 2013


A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney Elden Rosenthal.

DeDe Spicher testified before the grand jury for the criminal case within the past two weeks, according to Rosenthal.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify. ....
http://www.kgw.com/news/Kyron-Horman-civil-suit--217621031.html


Lawsuit dropped, criminal investigation continues in Kyron Horman case
Jul 30, 2013


As part of Young's lawsuit, one of Terri Horman's friends, DeDe Spicher, was called in for a deposition in 2012, and she refused to answer 142 questions regarding the case. She cited her Fifth Amendment right. ....

Young said she was hopeful Spicher provided good information to the grand jury, but did not speculate on what information that could be. Spicher appeared before the grand jury at least one other time, in July 2010.

"We don't know. But I think everything's a possibility," she said. "The fact that she hadn't talked up to now. We just don't know."
....
http://www.kptv.com/story/22967375/mom-of-kyron-horman-gives-up-on-civil-case


Mother of Kyron Horman dropping civil suit
Jul 30, 2013


Meanwhile, there was a huge breakthrough in the criminal investigation. Horman's good friend, Dede Spicher -- who previously refused to answer questions in court -- testified before an investigative Grand Jury in the past week or two. ....
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mother-of-Kyron-Horman-dropping-civil-suit-217632621.html


Desiree Young drops suit against Terri Horman
July 30, 2013


Rosenthal did reveal that Terri Horman's friend, DeDe Spicher, testified this month before a grand jury.  In October of 2012, Spicher invoked her Fifth Amendment rights during a sworn deposition, refusing to answer any questions regarding Horman. However, according to Rosenthal, she changed her mind.

“We recently learned that Dede Spicher did appear in front of the Grand Jury a week or two ago; we don't know what she said," Rosenthal stated. ....
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/


Kaine - July 30, 2013

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case. Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Desiree - July 30, 2013

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron. For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.”
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

"In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."
http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa


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Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


Video 2:30:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance





Friend of Terri Horman used fake name to buy cell phone for her

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Published on Aug 7, 2010

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« Reply #828 on: July 11, 2017, 01:35:12 PM »

CONNECTING DOTS

2010

Kyron Horman investigators ask public to help track white pickup Terri Horman drove
By Maxine Bernstein | The Oregonian/OregonLive
August 11, 2010 at 1:35 PM, updated August 17, 2010 at 8:08 AM


EXCERPT

Authorities are seeking information from people who may have seen Terri Horman driving her husband's white Ford F-250 pickup along Northwest Springville Road, Northwest Skyline Boulevard, Springville to Newberry Road, or along Old Germantown and Germantown roads between 10:15 and 11:30 a.m on Friday, June 4.  In the video above, the times are misstated by Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Rod Underhill.)

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/kyron_horman_case_investigator.html

H/T - Karma


2017

Deputies conclude Kyron Horman-related search
KOIN 6 News Staff
July 9, 2017, 4:59 pm

EXCERPT


Law enforcement conducted a search Sunday related to the 2010 disappearance of 7-year-old Kyron Horman.

As the search ended, it didn’t appear that there were any new findings or breakthroughs in the case.

The search closed Northwest Springville Road to through traffic from 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. between Northwest Skyline Boulevard and Northwest 128th Avenue.

http://koin.com/2017/07/07/deputies-to-conduct-kyron-horman-related-search/

H/T - cw618
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Searchers hit West Hills for renewed search for Kyron Horman
July 9, 2017

EXCERPT


Desiree Young, Kyron's mother, declined to comment on the search, saying she'd been instructed not to comment about specifics.

"I will say that our law enforcement team acts with intention and skill based on solid case tips and evidence," she said in an email. "No matter the outcome, it gives us hope that Kyron's team hasn't given up on him and they continue to search for him. I pray that this will help us in Kyron's case and that we will bring him home."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/07/searchers_in_west_hills_for_re.html


Desiree - January 20, 2016

"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day.  She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that.  Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision.  We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline. We know who did this.  We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."

http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt


Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Grand Jury Meets, Indictment Imminent
Posted by Christina Stoy | Monday 26 July 2010 3:16 pm

41. .... August 13, 2010 at 8:30 pm

EXCERPT


The software and capabilities via the secret service with a GPS interface, complete with “facing and angled” technology, has pin pointed the questions LE is asking right now.
They know within feet where Terri was the entire day. What they need to know, is where Kyron was. .... B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-43/



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« Reply #829 on: July 11, 2017, 04:23:07 PM »

WHAT PHONE?

When the cell phone that Dede claims she left in her vehicle on the morning of June 4, 2010 is considered ... inquiring minds want to know from what phone did she receive that alleged 11:15 am call ... the alleged 11:15 am call that Blink referenced in her June 26, 2010 blog?  Could it have been a burner phone ... a burner phone purchased prior to June 4, 2010?

Could Dede have been picked up and dropped off by Terri in the area of Sunday's NW Springville Road search and that would explain why she was not observed at Westwind's main entrance off of Germantown Road?

H/T - cw618
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WHERE WAS DEDE?

2010


Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Grand Jury Meets, Indictment Imminent
Posted by Christina Stoy | Monday 26 July 2010 3:16 pm

EXCERPT


According to several sources, DeDe Spicher, Terri’s roommate  post Kaine’s restraining order,  was working in a garden near the Horman home the day of Kyron’s disappearance when she received a call at approximately 11:15 am. She left abruptly, returning at approximately 1:00 pm. DeDe was unreachable on her cell phone during that time and the property owner became concerned. Spicher is a long time friend and workout companion of Horman’s.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-1/


DeDe, Terri unaccounted for at same time on June 4
August 12, 2010

EXCERPT


DeDe Spicher and Terri Moulton-Horman were both unaccounted for during the same period of time the day Kyron Horman disappeared, based on information revealed by investigators and on information from KGW sources.

Sources also tell KGW that, during the period of time DeDe was unaccounted for, her car remained at the property where she had been gardening. According to sources, that detail is significant because, if DeDe left the property as investigators believe, she would have had to leave in another vehicle.

Meanwhile, at a Wednesday press conference, investigators focused on the movements of the Horman family pickup truck on the day Kyron disappeared. Investigators specifically asked for any witnesses who might have seen the pickup in that same area of Skyline between 10:15 and 11:30 a.m. Sources tell KGW that investigators identified that as the time between when Terri left a Beaverton Fred Meyer and her next known stop, at her personal gym.

These timelines leave a one-hour, fifteen-minute block of time in the middle of the day Kyron disappeared where the whereabouts of both Terri and DeDe was still under investigation.  At Wednesday's press conference, deputies focused in on specific roads in the Skyline area where the family's white truck may have been during that window of time. ....

Investigators spent Sunday searching the home where Spicher gardened the morning of June 4.

The person who owns the house where Spicher gardened, who is cooperating with investigators, told investigators she called Spicher on her cell phone but she didn't answer, the source told KGW. A person who was working with Spicher, who is also cooperating with investigators, told them of trying to unsuccessfully find Spicher. Both people have told investigators they have no idea where Spicher was during that period of time.

http://www.kgw.com/news/kyron-horman/DeDe-Spicher-99077874.html


THE DISCONNECT

2013

Blink On Crime Kyron Horman Investigation EXCLUSIVE: Terri Horman Friend DeDe Spicher Breaks Her Silence After Passing Polygraph- Requests DA Clear Her Publicly
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 4 September 2013 12:28 pm

EXCERPT


DeDe arrived at her job at Westwind Farm Studio–a sprawling and lush forty-plus acre property scheduled to be on the Garden Conservatory Tour the next day. She parked at the main house, left her cell phone which was turned on, and her lunch cooler in her Ford Explorer. ....

However, investigators were adamant at “proving” a theory that Spicher left the Westwind Farm. I asked, “Considering there is absolutely no communication between you and anyone else, and you are working on a 40-acre farm on this day, wouldn’t it be true that the theory had to be that. . . ? ”

Spicher interrupted: Yes, that Terri swung by and picked me up for some reason, or some other unknown person. ”

The problem with that theory is that it required another person who was not at the farm to know where Spicher was working that day come meet her, without being seen by anyone else, and without communication with anyone else.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/comment-page-1/

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« Reply #830 on: July 12, 2017, 11:29:37 AM »

When Desiree's 2015 words (below) are considered ... could it be that Sunday's search of the Springville Road area backing Westwind farm ... Westwind farm where Dede was allegedly gardening on the morning of June 4, 2010 ... had everything to do with locating items related to the secreting of Kyron ... items akin to burner phones?


2017

Sunday's search yields no new information in Kyron Horman investigation
KGW Staff , KGW
July 10, 2017

EXCERPT


Multnomah County Sheriff's Office Lt. Chad Gaidos said there was nothing to update after Sunday's search.

"Yesterday's search yielded a number of items, but none appear to be related to the case," Gaidos said.

Northwest Springville Road was closed from 8 a.m. until 5 p.m. Sunday between Skyline Boulevard and Northwest 128th Avenue for the search.

http://www.kgw.com/mb/news/local/kyron-horman/west-hills-search-on-sunday-connected-to-kyron-horman-investigation/455102704


2015

Kyron Horman disappearance: 'Crying and praying, hoping today will be day' he returns
May 31, 2015

EXCERPT


In September, Young is planning another search.

She hopes to bring in 15 tracking and cadaver dog teams from Washington, Idaho, California and Florida to search in the Portland area, but wouldn't say where. She's organized several other searches in the past.

She said they've turned up evidence implicating Terri Moulton Horman, who was married to Kaine Horman at the time Kyron went missing. ....

"We've found evidence to suggest that Terri might have been trying to get rid of things connected to Kyron," Young said, referring to the previous searches.

"She's not going to talk until we have evidence to confront her. We have to find it."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html


BOTTOM LINE

Searchers hit West Hills for renewed search for Kyron Horman
July 9, 2017


EXCERPT

Desiree Young, Kyron's mother, declined to comment on the search, saying she'd been instructed not to comment about specifics.

"I will say that our law enforcement team acts with intention and skill based on solid case tips and evidence," she said in an email. "No matter the outcome, it gives us hope that Kyron's team hasn't given up on him and they continue to search for him. I pray that this will help us in Kyron's case and that we will bring him home."

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/07/searchers_in_west_hills_for_re.html

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« Reply #831 on: July 12, 2017, 01:26:28 PM »

Ongoing briefings with investigators imply that the words of Desiree Young afforded to the media are derived from an official foundation.  There are those who claim unidentified sources ... unidentified sources who word are contrary to to Kyron's mom ... contrary to official spokespersons but ... I refuse to go there.


THE UNCHANGING STORY

2014


Kyron's Mother - June 21, 2014


“It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle.”

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


2015

Kyron's Mother - June 4, 2015


"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him. It was someone we knew in our trusted circle,"

https://kobi5.com/news/local-news/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong-7444/


2017

Kyron's Mother - June 4, 2017


"It was not a stranger abduction.  This was someone who was known to Kyron who was with him that day at the school." (Video Excerpt 2:24)

https://www.facebook.com/missingkyronhorman/


THE FOUNDATION

2015


Kyron's Mother - May 21, 2015


"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school,down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?  I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971




Kyron's Mother - November 25, 2015

"He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school." (Video Excerpt 1:24)

http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/


BOTTOM LINE

Kyron's Mother - May 29, 2015


"Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further.  It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's. ..."

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&reply_comment_id=982316055

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.1379216938834890/1379216938834890/?type=3&theater

http://katu.com/news/local/sources-terri-horman-vague-on-kyrons-doctor-appointment-date-11-20-2015
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« Reply #832 on: July 12, 2017, 03:58:32 PM »

CONNECTING THE DOTS

Could Tyler Kessinger be who Desiree referred to as "Kyron's friend" ... "Tyler Kessinger" who Terri in her own words claims was mistaken in his observation on the morning of June 4, 2010.


KYRON'S FRIEND

Desiree Young - November 25, 2015


"He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school." (Video Excerpt 1:24)

http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/


TYLER

Terri Horman - October 25, 2016

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

50. ... TMH says:
October 25, 2016 at 12:45 pm


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.... Tyler and James were friends and that is how he knows what the truck looks like. Blink has more information regarding that, but I will say Tyler didn’t see me in the back of the school on the 4th. He was mistaken. I was out front the entire time.

Thank you T.  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-14/#comments


TYLER - ANOTHER INTERVIEW

Could the above words of both Desiree and Terri imply that whatever was learned from Tyler Kessinger when he was re-interviewed was instrumental in the furthering of the Kyron Horman investigation.  In other words ... it was a given that this young man would be a witness for the prosecution in an upcoming trial.

   
COPS RE-INTERVIEW WITNESSES IN KYRON HORMAN CASE
July 15, 2010

EXCERPT


The station reported that one of those people that was re-interviewed was Tyler Kessinger, a seventh-grader who says he saw Kyron walking through the science fair with friends, smiling the day he vanished and that he also saw Terri Horman's white truck in the parking lot that day. Terri is the boy’s stepmother.

http://www.skyvalleychronicle.com/FEATURE-NEWS/COPS-RE-INTERVIEW-WITNESSES-IN-KYRON-HORMAN-CASE-416764

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DD’s parents are still living.  TM’s parents are still living.  Perhaps once the parents pass away information may come forth, if someone knows anything, IMO. 
I base this loosely on a woman confided in me that she waited until her mother died until she got a Divorce. 
Maybe friends and family members may be biding their time.  There is still a 50,000 reward I believe.
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« Reply #834 on: July 16, 2017, 10:29:08 AM »

Hi Seahorse

At the end of June 2010 ... what knowledge was Terri's father privy to that cause him to believe there was a good possibility that his daughter was implicated?  By October 2010 the attorneys of Dede and Terri as well as circuit court judges were respectively implying likewise.

Papa and I are caring for eldest son's children (6/11) this weekend.  I just braided six year old granddaughter waist long hair in preparation for church.  No gratitude.  "Maaama ... that's not the way Mom does it".  Oh well.

Stuff going on in my world outside the computer room today.

Have a good Sunday.  God Bless!

Later, Janet (8:15 AM PT)

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Larry Moulton - Terri's Father - People Magazine - June 29, 2010


Terri Horman’s dad tells PEOPLE in the current issue she’s been interviewed repeatedly, as long as six hours at a time, and that police have inspected her truck twice. Asked if he thought authorities would arrest Terri, her father said it was “50-50.”

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20397855,00.html


THE Indictment

Chad Stavley - Dede's Attorney - August 18, 2010


"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case.  I'd be surprised if THE indictment didn't come down."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/


Defacto Suspect

Terri's Attorney - Peter Bunch - August 24, 2010


"Wife filed a motion to abate the dissolution proceeding because she is a de facto suspect in the disappearance of Kyron Horman. ...."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/terri-horman-court-memo.pdf

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html


Probable Cause

Circuit Court Judges - October 25, 2010


“Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron’s disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.”

http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf
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« Reply #835 on: July 17, 2017, 10:36:34 AM »

THE WITNESSES - ALL SMOKE AND MIRRORS?

Witnesses?  What's the hold up?  Seven years later why has Terri's $350,000 up front attorney not legally challenged in a court of law the allegations that his client was the last person seen with Kyron ... the allegations that his client was behind the disappearing of Kyron ... the allegations that his client attempted to arrange a MFH plot against Kaine ... the allegations that have prevented his client from contact with her daughter?

Why has Terri's $350,000 up front attorney not called on his alleged witnesses to testify before a Grand Jury on behalf of his client?

Could it be that the depositions of the alleged witnesses by Terri's attorney did not happen or ... was it all for naught?  Could it be that the Stephen Houze' 2013 claim citing witnesses that can prove that Terri was not the last person observed with Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010 can be defined as "all smoke and mirrors"?



SEPTEMBER 13, 2013

Stephen Houze - We Have Witnesses


"It's not true," Houze said of the claims Terri Horman was the last person to see Kyron that day. "We have witnesses who will say, in fact, they know facts first-hand that demonstrate that is not true."

http://www.kptv.com/story/23425918/attorney-terri-horman-wasnt-last-person-to-see-kyron-horman-at-school


SEPTEMBER 13, 2013

Terri's Attorneys - Subpoenas to Depose


Court records indicate that Terri Horman's lawyers subpoenaed O'Donnell, as well as three Skyline School employees Kyron's second-grade teacher Kristine Porter, kindergarten/first grade teacher Easter Mathews and school secretary Susan Hall.  They subpoenaed to deposte three children who attended Skyline School, and staff of Fred Meyer, Magic Cleaners and 24 Hour Fitness.

 http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_to_rule_by_monday_on_wha.html


SEPTEMBER 16, 2013

Judge Henry Kantor - Depositions Permitted


Lawyers for Terri Moulton Horman can't question one of the lead sheriff's investigators in the disappearance of her stepson Kyron Horman, but can start deposing faculty at the missing boy's school and adults at area businesses, according to a judge's ruling Monday.  Multnomah County Circuit Court Judge Henry Kantor also said Horman's lawyers can't question young students who were subpoenaed by Terri Horman's lawyers. Kantor said he was concerned because they're minors and might divulge information they provided to a grand jury in the ongoing criminal inquiry, and he did not know whether the students or their parents had obtained lawyers.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/09/judge_rules_terri_hormans_lawy.html


OCTOBER 9, 2013

Kaine's Attorney - Requests Information


The court documents indicate Kaine Horman's lawyer requested information from Terri Horman on the person or persons you contend have knowledge that Terri Horman was not the last person to see Kyron Horman on June 4, 2010 at Skyline School.

http://www.kgw.com/news/kaine-horman-wants-kyron-records-from-terri/71743139


OCTOBER 10, 2013

Kaine's Attorney - Demands Proof


At the previous hearing, Terri Horman's attorney claimed he can prove his client was not the last person to see Kyron at Skyline School.

Now, Kaine Horman's attorney is demanding access to any documents that led Terri's legal team to make that assertion.

http://www.kptv.com/story/23657846/terri-horman-divorce-case-back-in-court-today


AUGUST 14, 2014

Terri - My Attorney has Witnesses


"He (Stephen Houze) stated in court I was in fact not the last person to have seen Kyron.  My lawyer has witnesses to prove it."

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/08/four_women_who_opposed_terri_h.html


MAY 31, 2015

Terri's Attorneys - No Further Explanation


Terri Horman and her lawyers have said she wasn't the last person to see Kyron that day, but haven't offered further explanation. She has never faced charges.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_disappearance_cry.html
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THE LAST PERSON OBSERVED WITH KYRON?

TEACHER INTERVIEWS

Kyron Horman disappearance: Skyline school parents and students will be interviewed Sunday
June 5, 2010

EXCERPT


Detectives will begin interviewing everyone who was at Skyline Elementary School when Kyron Horman disappeared as the search for the missing second-grader moves into its third day.

More than 100 searchers are expected to continue the hunt for the 7-year-old boy, while hundreds of adults and children will come to the pastoral school.

The 300 students and their parents, as well as teachers and support staff members, are expected to arrive in time-allotted slots to talk to detectives.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


INTERVIEW OUTCOMES - INVESTIGATION SPOKESPERSONS

PPS Spokesperson - June 7, 2010

Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.  He said it was common for parents to pick up kids this way, so no suspicions were raised.

http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=28


Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010

Witnesses said Kyron arrived at the school with his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, on Friday morning, perhaps about 8 a.m.  The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. .... However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make  it to his classroom.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


MCSO - Sheriff's Captain - June 21, 2010

There was one new piece of information: 'Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared,' Multnomah County Sheriff's Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.

http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


PPS Spokesperson - June 21, 2010

Portland Public Schools spokesperson Matt Shelby told KATU News, "Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html


THE CONNECT

ACCORDING TO KYRON'S MOTHER

Desiree Young - June 21, 2014

It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle.”

http://koin.com/2014/06/21/volunteers-family-continue-search-for-kyron-horman/


Desiree Young - November 25, 2015

"He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school." (Video Excerpt 1:24)

http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/


Desiree Young - June 4, 2017

"It was not a stranger abduction.  This was someone who was known to Kyron who was with him that day at the school." (Video Excerpt 2:24)

https://www.facebook.com/missingkyronhorman/


ACCORDING TO KYRON'S FATHER

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010

12, Respondent was the last person seen witH Kyron

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF


THE DISCONNECT

ACCORDING TO BLINK

Kyron Horman Exclusive Report: New Suspect And Botched Investigation Rumors Abound- Terri Horman Prepares To Fight For Couples Daughter Following Seclusion
Posted by Christina Stoy |Tuesday 6 August 2013 8:29 pm

EXCERPT


.... Sometime after Terri Horman left the school with her daughter Kiara in tow, she was captured on store video prior to Kyron’s exit from Skyline School.   It is believed Kyron was last seen between 9:05 and 9:20 AM.

The following is a summation of multiple direct witness accounts, edited to protect witness identification only.

“…He must have been standing behind me because I only recall hearing him ask if the boy could help him bring some stuff in from his truck.  I thought it was (edited) until he looked up at him and then he looked at Ms. Matthews for approval and she nodded her head yes in response.  They walked out of the South entrance together and I do not recall seeing either of them again."

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-1/#comments


Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

31.  July 14, 2017 at 9:51 pm

EXCERPT


I am going to stay away from the contents of Ms. Matthews deposition except to say it supported the account of SZ I have provided previously and from a timeline perspective put Kyron disappearance from that classroom between 9:05am and 10:20- that’s the best I got.  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/#comments
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« Reply #837 on: July 17, 2017, 05:45:41 PM »

Hi Seahorse

At the end of June 2010 ... what knowledge was Terri's father privy to that cause him to believe there was a good possibility that his daughter was implicated?  By October 2010 the attorneys of Dede and Terri as well as circuit court judges were respectively implying likewise.

Papa and I are caring for eldest son's children (6/11) this weekend.  I just braided six year old granddaughter waist long hair in preparation for church.  No gratitude.  "Maaama ... that's not the way Mom does it".  Oh well.

Stuff going on in my world outside the computer room today.

Have a good Sunday.  God Bless!

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Larry Moulton - Terri's Father - People Magazine - June 29, 2010


Terri Horman’s dad tells PEOPLE in the current issue she’s been interviewed repeatedly, as long as six hours at a time, and that police have inspected her truck twice. Asked if he thought authorities would arrest Terri, her father said it was “50-50.”

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20397855,00.html


THE Indictment

Chad Stavley - Dede's Attorney - August 18, 2010


"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case.  I'd be surprised if THE indictment didn't come down."

http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11754848/


Defacto Suspect

Terri's Attorney - Peter Bunch - August 24, 2010


"Wife filed a motion to abate the dissolution proceeding because she is a de facto suspect in the disappearance of Kyron Horman. ...."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/terri-horman-court-memo.pdf

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/terri_moulton_horman_appears_i.html


Probable Cause

Circuit Court Judges - October 25, 2010


“Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron’s disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.”

http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010

http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Kaine%20October%2025%20Filing.pdf

Hello Janet, and monkeys:  

I do remember TMH's, father, saying 50/50, he said it with tears in his eyes, reportedly, if I remember correctly.  

Your six year old grand daughter is a perfectionist! Smile 

 
November 25, 2015 ·

This is as close to an answer to why she wasn't charged, when their was probable cause, according to DY.
Jason Mattera, question to Desiree "Why wasn't Terri ever charged?   Desiree, said in her opinion, Casey Anthony, Trial, (snipped) forever changed things ...

You can view this, if interested, on Facebook without being logged in, just click, not now.

Video: 4:04 / 7:15 -
https://www.facebook.com/crimewatchdaily/videos/1099070046784453/

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« Reply #838 on: July 17, 2017, 07:57:10 PM »

Thanks seahorse.

Although I don't Tweet or do Facebook ... I do read both.  Hey ... although at grown kids' insistence hubby and I bowed and now have have a cell phone ... I do not yet have a Iphone.  If I value my almost 52 year marriage and I do ... I will not spend any more time on the internet than I already do.

Janet

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FIND KYRON FIRST?

THE SEVEN YEAR INVESTIGATIVE ROAD BLOCK


Considering that seven years later the whereabouts of Kyron has yet to be determined ... could it be that the time has come for an indictment to come down?  Could it be that a trial based on circumstantial evidence/ testimonies should proceed with the faith that a jury's verdict would afford Kyron a measure of justice and his parents a measure of closure?

"Come on everyone ... ask Kyron's law enforcement team for an arrest.  The DA's office needs to charge her for all the murder for hire plots, for Kyron, and for the stolen gun.  Why does she get away with this?  Someone else is going to get hurt before we put her in prison." Desiree Young - December 6, 2016

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/pb.161645780592018.-2207520000.1481041254./1177433929013193/?type=3&theater


ACCORDING TO BLINK

Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Grand Jury Meets, Indictment Imminent
Posted by Christina Stoy | Monday 26 July 2010 3:16 pm


45. ... August 7, 2010

EXCERPT


"There is a reason this went to a GJ and no arrest was made prior. The burdens on the state in a kidnapping/child endangerment/murder (unknown) case without recovering a victim, or physical evidence indicating bodily harm is very, very stringent. ....  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-27/#comment


ACCORDING TO DESIREE

Desiree - September 17, 2013


"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."

http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


Desiree - March 5, 2011

"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."

https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD/photos/a.149091225123584.27207.145821285450578/


Desiree - July 11, 2014

" DA's Office will prosecute for all of the murder for hire plots (oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron.  They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way. Just a matter of Kyron being found first.  The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516


Desiree - June 21, 2014

“We have lots of evidence. We just don’t have that final thing, the final answer. It’s frustrating.  It’s not a stranger that walked into Kyron’s school that took him. It was someone in our trusted circle. We know who has the answer, she just refuses to talk.”


Desiree - July 19, 2015

"Well law enforcement is all about strategy, it doesn't make sense to the rest of us but they only get one shot to get it right.  The day that Casey Anthony took Caylee out of this life, change the way that law enforcement will proceed on cases and how they prosecute all missing child cases. They won't put her in Jail until we have Kyron."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/p.852969098126346/852969098126346/?type=1&theater


Desiree - January 20, 2016

"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day.  She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that.  Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision.  We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline. We know who did this.  We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."

http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt
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« Reply #839 on: July 18, 2017, 01:27:50 PM »

WHAT DEPOSITION?  SOURCE?  LINK?

The implication of an undated, unsourced deposition recently revealed by Blink would be that Ms. Matthews was not truthful when questioned by authorities following Kyron's disappearance from Skyline.

Think about the words of a June 18, 2010 Sheriff Office Release and the words of a PPS Spokesperson and a MCSO Spokesperson on June 21, 2010.

Unless there is an MCSO retraction ... unless there is a PPS retraction ... I am inclined to believe the words of official investigation spokespersons who claim that Kyron was not seen by school staff (Ms. Matthews included) after 8:45 a.m. and that Kyron was last seen with Terri.

Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010

Witnesses said Kyron arrived at the school with his stepmother, Terri Moulton Horman, on Friday morning, perhaps about 8 a.m.  The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. .... However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make  it to his classroom.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


PPS Spokesperson - June 21, 2010

Portland Public Schools spokesperson Matt Shelby told KATU News, "Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”

http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html


MCSO Spokesperson - June 21, 2010

There was one new piece of information: 'Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared,' Multnomah County Sheriff's Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.

http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


THE DISCONNECT

Blink - August 2013


Kyron Horman Exclusive Report: New Suspect And Botched Investigation Rumors Abound- Terri Horman Prepares To Fight For Couples Daughter Following Seclusion
Posted by Christina Stoy |Tuesday 6 August 2013 8:29 pm

EXCERPT


.... Sometime after Terri Horman left the school with her daughter Kiara in tow, she was captured on store video prior to Kyron’s exit from Skyline School.   It is believed Kyron was last seen between 9:05 and 9:20 AM.

The following is a summation of multiple direct witness accounts, edited to protect witness identification only.

“…He must have been standing behind me because I only recall hearing him ask if the boy could help him bring some stuff in from his truck.  I thought it was (edited) until he looked up at him and then he looked at Ms. Matthews for approval and she nodded her head yes in response.  They walked out of the South entrance together and I do not recall seeing either of them again."

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/08/06/kyron-horman-exclusive-report-new-suspect-and-botched-investigation-rumors-abound-terri-horman-prepares-to-fight-for-couples-daughter-following-seclusion/comment-page-1/#comments


Blink - July 2017


Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

31.  July 14, 2017 at 9:51 pm

EXCERPT


I am going to stay away from the contents of Ms. Matthews deposition except to say it supported the account of SZ I have provided previously and from a timeline perspective put Kyron disappearance from that classroom between 9:05am and 10:20- that’s the best I got.  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-67/#comments

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/#comments
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