RBN # 13 - 6/20/05

[Professor]

did ayone see theh FOX show last night?? where htey interviewd a retired POlivce man from aruba?? how the lady ccut him off everytime he watned to ask the question if th FBI was inverstigation the backround of NH...not to put speculation on them or anything but just becuase usually that is the way an investigation usually "walks" but the hostess of the show would NOT let him talk! it was so obviouse that she would literally jsut cut him off whenever he started to talk about htat....also here the FOX channel interviwed or wanted an interview wiht the TOP95 radio crew and wheneverthe owner of the radio (edmond) would start talkign about how so much attention was being put on this case...not that its not important..but also how about all those missing & exploided children in Alabma that arent getting not even 1/4 of the exposure ...and they asked him please not to comment on that anymroe....WHY NOT???? see this is what pises me off about the press now they throw stones and 4get that there house is of glass

At this point, there have been hundreds of witnesses interviewed who have reported that Natalee Holloway wouldn't just go off on a 2 week binge, visiting Aruban crack houses.

That would be the ONLY reason to administer polygraphs to the parents.
Let's be truthful about it. We have already established that that dog won't hunt.

And, as far as "all those missing and exploited children in Alabama" are concerned, what would be the point, other that to claim that one missing girl in Aruba ain't no big deal?

What you don't seem to understand is that the people who watch Fox News want to FIND NATALEE HOLLOWAY, and not get into some philosophical discussion of relative crime rates between Alabama and Aruba.

Personally, I find that kind of stuff offensive, because it makes it seem like the Aruban authorities are more interested in their own image than in finding Natalee Holloway.

And those spokesmen did more damage to the reputation of Aruba than Dee Fine ever did.

[Dublin]

The pictures of steve..THIS HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED PLEASE STOP TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT...... IT IS NOW A KNOWN FACT...start reading old posts...catch yourself up to date....This person has friends here and it is very painful to keep rehashing it...THANKS


ALSO....when you post something...just post it once even if the debug message comes on....then go back and refresh the page to see if your message is posted....THANKS


frustrated.....

Yes.. I found out to late that it kept reposting. I tried logging out, then logging in, closing all my windows etc., and kept getting the error, so thanks for the tip about hitting refresh. Though you'd thinking logging out and in would have helped.

Clearly, I didn't intend to keep posting that.  Arghh.. and spent the time to try to delete all the extra ones.  I'm now posting a sticky note to my computer which states in bold letters...


Keep your hands off the phpbb!!! yakk

[Bill8268]

did ayone see theh FOX show last night??
Hey, American..was just going to ask if anyone saw you or NativeLingo this mgn...quiet mgn on the island ?

You know what?I donteven wan tto coem onilne anymore...(LISTEN TO TOP95) its in english!!!

Ok look I dont even want to coem onoine anymore becuase I am jsut frustrated with this I cant sleep at night and dont know where else to look for info! Its sucha weird feeling! I want to give youmore info but have nothing! this is just so weird! i dont know what to doguys.......

AmericanAruba.. you have done more then enough.. You deserve a ((((HUG))))) and a pat on the back!!!! God Love yah..!! I have tryed listening to Top Fm a few times..(not alot).. but I didnt undertsand what they were saying.. just bits and peices!!

tHANK YOU! ITS REALLY APPRECIATED BUT i JSUT WISH I HAD  MORE.....WELL I TOLD YOU TO GO ON TOP95 BECASUE TEHY WERE INTERVIEWEIGN dICK MILLER (HES A NEW YORK BORN, RADIO HOST) HE AHS A SHOW CALLED THE DICK MILLER SHOW ON CANAL 90 (http://www.canal90fm.com/index2.htm) HIS SHOW is comletely in english its especilly for tourist and stuff

American Aruba, one of the reasons that I surf this site is because of the information that you post which is very interesting.  Don't stop posting because of your frustration with Fox News.  Just keep giving us the information as you see it.  You are the best and I appreciate all the information that you have supplied.

[devilsadvocate]

simple question......if natalee's friends were rounding up the group after c/c to go back to the hotel  , checking other bars and so forth....and they saw a sober nat get in a car ....why didnt these considerate friends sound any alarms until it was time to leave?

[sandraK]

Any news already on Steve Croes?

Still in Court.4 hours and counting. I want him out**so we can Grill him**@ SM'S

[DivaToo]

I just wanted to make an oservation here.

trimmer wrote:
FYI, on Courttv.com there is a message board for Natalee with a thread about her possibly running away. On this thread there is a poster by the name of Lazlo who states that on the night before she was reported missing, he saw someone who looked like her repeatedly trying to get money from and ATM in the lobby of the Marriott. He said he stood behind her for 20 min. and she was very upset and couldnt get any cash from the machine. He didn't think much more about it until the next day when he saw someone with her desription was missing. He said she was wearing a blue jean skirt or trousers. He has not reported it to the FBI but instead told the hotel manager about it. I have just called the FBI as this needs to be looked into. I don't feel she ran away but that is the thread where this information is posted. "

Now please tell me,  has anyone ever tried for 20 MINUTES before giving up at an ATM?  
I don't think so!

Thats why I left.....If that was the case he should have reported it asap, not on court tv's website  
The trolls are out in full force over there at CTV

[Bamagal73]

When all this is over with, I think the Holloway/Twitty family are gonna own their own private island!!!!

[MississippiGirl]

americaninaruba, I certainly hope that you will stick around!  I think we are all frustrated at this point ~ we all want Natalee HOME  We truly appreciate you being here and all of your input!

[CancunMole]

Maybe Joran told the truth about that he was brought home first...
And did the brothers drive on with natalee...
Then maybe something happend or the brought natalee to a party or something....
And the brothers find out the next day she went missing...
Then they go to see Joran and tell him that, and because of that they made up first the story that they drove her of to to the Hilton because they were scared that someone might think they had something to do with her dissaperence....

So they made the story together by jorans`s pool to stick to that story....

And then when they were arrested put the blame on Joran!!
That could also explain why Joran said to the guard; " The selling me out"

Anybody think of that??

And the other story that they made up could joran told his dad or something.

Just a theory

While that's possible, it's apparent the police don't believe that.  Otherwise, why has the investigation been revolving around Joran?  They've searched his house, impounded his parents' cars and questioned his dad.  As far as we've heard, they haven't done any of those things with the Kalpoe brothers, other than impounding the car Natalee was last seen in (10 days after she disappeared, btw).

Maybe, just maybe because everyone is pointing at Joran. If it turns out not to be J, then the Investigator's will have thoroughly covered all bases. Just my opinion.

[LilOrphan]

can someone please send me the link to her pics?

I think this is what you want:

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/NEWSV5/storyV5familysearch19w.htm

Those pics certainly settle once and for all the rumor that Nat is willingly missing.  Just look at her smile, posture, body language...close with her mom, arm up on mom....clearly no lingering problems between them!! As a mom of a 16 y.o., I know we all have our ups and downs when kids are teens, but those recent grad pictures show a very tight, happy, loving family.

[DAG]

americaninaruba, I certainly hope that you will stick around!  I think we are all frustrated at this point ~ we all want Natalee HOME  We truly appreciate you being here and all of your input!

My thoughts also.  

It seems with no new news coming out we are speculating more and more and that can be offensive to some.  Maybe we need to spend our time searching for new news or listening to TV of radio and not making up scenarios, then posting what we have learned.

[AnnieMW1]

The night Nat's mom arrived on the island, they found out about Joran - got the police and went to house - father says he's at the casino - they all go - Joran calls father on cellphone saying he's home now - they all return to home - BOTH Joran and YOUNGER BROTHER (Satish?) were at the house waiting.  They had been together that night and had plenty of time to work out a story between the three of them. See following quote from Dan's website

"The entire group, including the police, headed back to the Van der Sloot home.  They arrived to find Joran Van der Sloot and Satish Kalpoe, the younger of two brothers recently detained in the matter, leaning casually against what has been reported to be the grey car now impounded in the investigation."

WHy didn't they just call Joran on his cell phone from the parents' house?

[DONTGETEXCITED]

there is more to be seen than meets the eye.

[sandraK]

I just wanted to make an oservation here.

trimmer wrote:
FYI, on Courttv.com there is a message board for Natalee with a thread about her possibly running away. On this thread there is a poster by the name of Lazlo who states that on the night before she was reported missing, he saw someone who looked like her repeatedly trying to get money from and ATM in the lobby of the Marriott. He said he stood behind her for 20 min. and she was very upset and couldnt get any cash from the machine. He didn't think much more about it until the next day when he saw someone with her desription was missing. He said she was wearing a blue jean skirt or trousers. He has not reported it to the FBI but instead told the hotel manager about it. I have just called the FBI as this needs to be looked into. I don't feel she ran away but that is the thread where this information is posted. "

Now please tell me,  has anyone ever tried for 20 MINUTES before giving up at an ATM?  
I don't think so!

Thats why I left.....If that was the case he should have reported it asap, not on court tv's website  
The trolls are out in full force over there at CTV

Lots of Real nutz@CTV.Most belong IN Court

[bendex]

Hi All,

I would like to comment something about the dutch law with regards to the statement given by one of the guards,

By Dutch law in order to lengthen the suspects detention a judge must consider 3 things

1. risk of suspect escaping
2. risk of suspects communicating with each other
3. for the benefit of the investigation

If it complies with one of the 3 above the judge can decide to lengthen detention .

please not point number 2. risk of suspects communicating with each other

Now the guard claimed that he has spoken to the older kaploe brother in jail who made statements regarding dropping of natalee.

If this is true the suspects lawyer can file for a mistrial , as this is a serious violation of the rights of the suspects .

So I think we can regard the comment made by the security guard as complete nonsense and should be disregarded.

[prism]

I just wanted to make an oservation here.

trimmer wrote:
FYI, on Courttv.com there is a message board for Natalee with a thread about her possibly running away. On this thread there is a poster by the name of Lazlo who states that on the night before she was reported missing, he saw someone who looked like her repeatedly trying to get money from and ATM in the lobby of the Marriott. He said he stood behind her for 20 min. and she was very upset and couldnt get any cash from the machine. He didn't think much more about it until the next day when he saw someone with her desription was missing. He said she was wearing a blue jean skirt or trousers. He has not reported it to the FBI but instead told the hotel manager about it. I have just called the FBI as this needs to be looked into. I don't feel she ran away but that is the thread where this information is posted. "

Now please tell me,  has anyone ever tried for 20 MINUTES before giving up at an ATM?  
I don't think so!

Thats why I left.....If that was the case he should have reported it asap, not on court tv's website  
The trolls are out in full force over there at CTV

This Lazio must've made a pretty quick trip to Aruba, seeing how he was continuing to post on Natalees' and other threads at CTV except between May 27th and June 2nd. It is possible, although I suspect he was probably celebrating Troll Days or something similar  

[da wench]

simple question......if natalee's friends were rounding up the group after c/c to go back to the hotel  , checking other bars and so forth....and they saw a sober nat get in a car ....why didnt these considerate friends sound any alarms until it was time to leave?

This has been discussed many times already.  Read the previous posts.  The only people to blame are the ones actually responsible for her disappearance.

[waitingtoknow]

The pictures of steve..THIS HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED PLEASE STOP TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT...... IT IS NOW A KNOWN FACT...start reading old posts...catch yourself up to date....This person has friends here and it is very painful to keep rehashing it...THANKS


ALSO....when you post something...just post it once even if the debug message comes on....then go back and refresh the page to see if your message is posted....THANKS


frustrated.....

Yes.. I found out to late that it kept reposting. I tried logging out, then logging in, closing all my windows etc., and kept getting the error, so thanks for the tip about hitting refresh. Though you'd thinking logging out and in would have helped.

Clearly, I didn't intend to keep posting that.  Arghh.. and spent the time to try to delete all the extra ones.  I'm now posting a sticky note to my computer which states in bold letters...


Keep your hands off the phpbb!!! yakk

Dublin, dear, I was not pointing my finger at you alone...I was talking in general....but you sure have made me smile with all your yakks and arghhs...very cute!

[Getagrip]

Questions and comments about the night of Natalee's disappearance are starting to come back up.  

This is the picture I have in my head from all I have heard and read...please correct me if I'm wrong on any facts.

- Joran was in C'nC with Natalee and her friends - the Kalpoe brothers were not

- As they are leaving the bar (at closing time, I believe), I imagine a large crowd outside the bar, talking, preparing to depart to their respective hotels/homes

- Nat heads off with Joran, get into the Kalpoe's car - taxis on the island look like regular cars

- Everyone including Natalee, I assume, thinks she's heading back to the HI in a taxi with Joran (seems quite harmless and no alarms would have been going off)

The fact that the Kalpoe brothers come to pick up Joran is bothering me. He/they know it's Natalee's last night on the island. Whatever their motives, they do not seem pure.

It has been mentioned that Joran was seen in previous days hanging out at the HI with Natalee - it is my understanding that no one has mentioned them seeing the Kalpoes, so no one, including Natalee would have known that they were Joran's friends.

[americaninaruba]

apparently some on sent infromation to TOP95 saying that a black man ,25years old, checked in to a hotel inNigeria with a girl undr the name of Natalee Holloway...we dont know if this is true its just a message that was sent to him thourgh the internet.....(doy ou think its possible?) OHMY!