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« Reply #40 on: June 20, 2005, 12:36:03 PM »

I dont feel all sides are being questioned properly because those with her before this happened , could shed a little more light
why havent we heard details about events leading up to 1 AM or when she left?
i mean ok they met at a casino
i am sure she must have told her friends something about her and Joran or what she thought of him
or something
the students should shed more light on this because there is no way they are telling all the know.
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« Reply #41 on: June 20, 2005, 12:36:47 PM »

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You mention timeline given by PVS.  Where do you see that?  You respoded I don't want to get into that yesterday when I asked a similar question.  Is this still your position?


That is the report given by Riehl World, in his most recent post.
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« Reply #42 on: June 20, 2005, 12:37:12 PM »

Don't, they had all been questioned by the FBI.

The kids have told the authorities what happened.   They don't need to tell us.
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« Reply #43 on: June 20, 2005, 12:37:27 PM »

one thing we've learned about arubans....they love taking pics of themselves partying
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« Reply #44 on: June 20, 2005, 12:37:47 PM »

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rob, i said i would be disappointed......the reason why is because when this first happened the tone of the island was to be that of a happy place that wanted this poor girl found........then as time goes on, any mud slinging would tell me that all they really ever cared about was their reputation and, ultimately, their economy.


It isn't an either or situation.  The average Aruba cares for both.  Who wouldn't?
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« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2005, 12:38:06 PM »

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one thing we've learned about arubans....they love taking pics of themselves partying


thats the national sport......
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« Reply #46 on: June 20, 2005, 12:38:18 PM »

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I have a question..just as the 3  decided to blame the security guards, etc, and they were detained, has anyone thought about or mentioned that maybe the security guard is lying about what one of the kalpoe's said to him? I wonder if they have proof or if it is just his word against kalpoe? Now, dont get me wrong, i know these 3 have something to do with it and they are lying, but i was just wondering about that.....My hubby is a cop and he says detainees say crap all the time that isnttrue, just to stir up stuff...i dunno


I brought this up before. I believe the Kalpoe brothers are trying to save their butts. They were free long enough to know who was arrested etc. I don't buy the story.

I also still find it very ODD Deepak's female friend, while on FOX, would not make a comment that her friend Deepak was innocent. Friends usually have friends backs...seemed very weird. She made it very a point to dodge the question and say she could say that he was inncoent and not comment on his character.
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« Reply #47 on: June 20, 2005, 12:38:22 PM »

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<<if aruba and aruba media starts slandering natalee and starts a mud-slinging situation i will be very disappointed.>>

Aruba media has already started.


The folks is Aruba have as many questions as we do. There was a discussion last night where ArubaGirl posed questions the Arubans have based on information published in US papers. You may want to check through ArubaGirl's posting from last night.
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« Reply #48 on: June 20, 2005, 12:38:47 PM »

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Don't, they had all been questioned by the FBI.

The kids have told the authorities what happened.   They don't need to tell us.


Exactly.
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« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2005, 12:38:59 PM »

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Yeah I think someone said it was in her bags in her room. Which makes sense, because if she didn't have a purse with her a camera would be too much of a pain to keep up with at the bar.


I think the one thought about the case that really scares me (and it might be brought on by the fact that we are not getting much in the way of details to explain what happened to NH), is how easily it seems people can disappear into thin air in today's world.

If you read up on the State Department's TIP (Trafficking in Persons) report, you'll note that Venezuela is a Tier 3 country...meaning that despite pleas by other governments to police human trafficking and slavery, the country's government has, for the most part, ignored the problem (or does not comply with the standards). Evidence is available that would support export of commercial trade from Venezuela to the north into Mexico.

I guess that's why I hope the Aruban government is following pure, solid leads, and not just grasping at straws. We really have no idea what they are doing, but trying to solve the case. However, if NH's trail went from the California lighthouse, across the sea to Venezuela...then there's no way of knowing where she could be, now.

That's all speculation, as well. Like I said, just something that's really scarey to think about, in the worst case scenario...
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« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2005, 12:39:37 PM »

why are we getting bare details about what happened before???????????

about who natalee was
and how she felt about Joran
if anything?
or what exactly went on in the bar?

i am getting a sense of who Joran is and stories about him but what about her?
i just want to paint a picture
of who is who and what is what??
also what about the 2 in St thomas?
why no one cares about them or who their killers were?
what a prime example of America's stereotypes
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« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2005, 12:39:44 PM »

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I dont feel all sides are being questioned properly because those with her before this happened , could shed a little more light
why havent we heard details about events leading up to 1 AM or when she left?
i mean ok they met at a casino
i am sure she must have told her friends something about her and Joran or what she thought of him
or something
the students should shed more light on this because there is no way they are telling all the know.


Does anyone know the timeline of Natalie the day of CnC?  Maybe even the week?
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« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2005, 12:39:58 PM »

i dont know if this is close, but i think the heat is shifting to the vd sloots and away from satish... what do you guys think?
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« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2005, 12:40:06 PM »

Hello everyone..
  I am "new" to the group. I have been sitting around for the past 3 weeks just reading. I decided to join today!!  Thank you to all that have been posting such great info.. I hear more on here then on the news..although I do have my tv on right now in the other room on FOX.. listening. Thank you to Nikki for helping me out learning to post!! ha ha Laughing   Fogive me if I make boo~boo's!!
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« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2005, 12:40:16 PM »

Quote from: "DONTGETEXCITED"
I dont feel all sides are being questioned properly because those with her before this happened , could shed a little more light
why havent we heard details about events leading up to 1 AM or when she left?
i mean ok they met at a casino
i am sure she must have told her friends something about her and Joran or what she thought of him
or something
the students should shed more light on this because there is no way they are telling all the know.


Again, I reiterate, we do not know everything because it is an investigation. Everyone, family, friends, police, FBI etc are very closed mouth because they have to be.
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« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2005, 12:40:40 PM »

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Is the Yahoo natalee chatroom down? I can't seem to get in

We are up and Running. Very Happy
People pop in & out.
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« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2005, 12:40:52 PM »

hi ya'll..........while following up on some of the links posted here, and doing all the reading. I understood S.Croes family to have said he did not know joran, but here is a picture at what appears to be a party, with joran, steve and a couple of others!  It is the 7th picture down, also I heard an investigative reporter from Aruba this am on Fox report Croes only know deepak and not joran

http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_joranvandersloot_archive.html
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« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2005, 12:41:21 PM »

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Here we go again. Paulus van der Sloot gives a time line that conflicts with known facts, and yet he is allowed to go free. Doesn't this remind you of the 11 days that JVDS, KS, and DS were allowed to go free after telling a story that conflicted with known facts? And two security guards were arrested, instead? Is perjury not a crime in Aruba? It makes you wonder why he is not in jail right now.

I understand the Dutch system of justice. It really isn't that different from the U. S. system, in that information is not released to the public.

But we DO have the ability to monitor whether progress is being made, or NOT made. And, right now, it's deja vu, all over again, to quote Yogi Berra.


None of us know the FACTS. We only know what we have SPECULATED from hearsay information.
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« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2005, 12:41:36 PM »

ok first of all we all want answers
we demand arubas investigation and their answers
why cant we demand public answers from the friends too??
hmmmm????
you want a blow by blow from aruba right????????????
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« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2005, 12:41:37 PM »

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Are we sure they didn't pack her stuff?


That is a valid point.  Exactly what I have questioned before.  How could so called friends let an obviously too drunk Natalee leave with 3 foreigners, a few hours before flight time.

That does not seem credible.  I know, I've been in that situation before and did not allow my friend to go...  Friends don't allow that.....
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