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« Reply #400 on: June 20, 2005, 02:53:32 PM »

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ok so no more posting unless its lovely and fairy like and pretty
paint pretty pictures.
ignore truths.

The problems is that EVERYTHING you are bringing up now has been discussed over...and over...and over again thousands of threads ago.  It's frustrating to rehash the same stuff all the time. IMO
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« Reply #401 on: June 20, 2005, 02:53:37 PM »

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You mention timeline given by PVS.  Where do you see that?  You respoded I don't want to get into that yesterday when I asked a similar question.  Is this still your position?


That is the report given by Riehl World, in his most recent post.


Dan has been wrong before.  Does he cite a source?
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« Reply #402 on: June 20, 2005, 02:54:15 PM »

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I too have wondered why the friends let her go with the 3 guys in the first place...

See this is where there is a contridiction in stories. Good girl wouldn't have done that, doesn't fool around etc. Yet we know she "willing" left with him.

...Natalie's mother while being interviewed by Gretta...

According to an eye witness from the time they were leaving C&C's, Natalee said she was returning to the hotel "with them", pointing to a group of friends.  When her friends saw her drive off, they thought she was riding in a taxi.  Also, Natalee has never had a serious boyfriend, and according to her friends she is quiet and shy.  While she may have "willingly" gotten in the car, we JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THAT.  Again, according to an eye witness, her intentions were to go directly to the hotel, not go to the lighthouse, not go "neck" on the beach.


I read a different account that went like this: The Kalpoes, Joran , and Natalee passed a car with Natalee's friends (from Mountain Brook) heading toward the hotel. They stopped and asked Natalee if she wanted to ride with them. She said no, that she was going with the Arubans to another beach or the lighthouse in the other direction (not to the hotel)
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« Reply #403 on: June 20, 2005, 02:54:20 PM »

Quote from: "Another K in Texas"
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guys I teach high school.  Times have changes.  Kids meet and mix and mingle quickly.

As I said, Joran and Nat would have much in common. Leaving together is not a sign of a bad girl.
Much agreed.



HI DIVA.
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« Reply #404 on: June 20, 2005, 02:55:13 PM »

well i am new and didnt know this had all been discussed sheesh.
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« Reply #405 on: June 20, 2005, 02:55:52 PM »

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the scuffle between Joran and some of the boys from Mountain Brook took place at the Holiday Inn Casino when Joran was with Natalee then, a few days earlier, as reported by the Birmingham News


Not at HI. It was at C&C.


This must be one of the cases which information is not mentioned or contained. Yes there was a shoving match that very same night, to me it sounds like something serious. almost to blows, but we do not know the reason ...I think this is a crucial information and some will dismiss this as nonrelevant.
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« Reply #406 on: June 20, 2005, 02:56:37 PM »

I'll see if I can find the link from Birmingham news but I remember quite succintly they reported that the scuffle was at the Holiday Inn Casino, which was just a indicator that these kids have been hanging around most of the week,  which doesn't preclude the fact there may have been another scuffle at C & C's

I recall from the couple trips I took in high school that the guys from your school would get either jealous or step in when the locals were hitting on "their women"
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« Reply #407 on: June 20, 2005, 02:56:50 PM »

Maybe this is a dumb question.. Has anyone or any of her roomates actually seen her pack her bags that were in the hotel room?? When would she have done that??  If a roomate was there..perhaps they may have seen her do so. I havnt heard anything about that.. I just wondered  about that..
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« Reply #408 on: June 20, 2005, 02:56:56 PM »

Quote from: "DONTGETEXCITED"
ok so no more posting unless its lovely and fairy like and pretty
paint pretty pictures.
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« Reply #409 on: June 20, 2005, 02:57:08 PM »

ok..........all this debate and arguing over "bic city/smallcity" or "north/south" is just stupid and getting boring.........

i don't care if natalee is from alabama or nyc or utah or chicago.......i don't even care if she had it in her head that she was going to get drunk and have a fling(which i am not saying is the case)..........the bottom line is that she didn't deserve to go missing and whatever
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« Reply #410 on: June 20, 2005, 02:57:39 PM »

PLEASE TAKE NOTE:  If you have JUST SIGNED UP TO SM...the people who have BEEN HERE since the beginning have already gotten past all the whys and whats....IF YOU ARE JUST JOINING...please go back and UPDATE yourself with what has already taken place on this forum....

It seems that people are rehashing alot of speculations that have already been confirmed or denied by reliable sources....Just go back and read...this is getting pathetic!
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« Reply #411 on: June 20, 2005, 02:57:40 PM »

Hi All - dang, back at work instead of working from home. Can't keep up with the posts from here.

Anything new? Brief recap would be appreciated. Saw the 'Nigeria' rumor. Puuhhleeeese.  Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #412 on: June 20, 2005, 02:58:04 PM »

Quote from: "DONTGETEXCITED"
ok so no more posting unless its lovely and fairy like and pretty
paint pretty pictures.
ignore truths.


No one knows the truth, or we wouldn't be here...
All we know is Natalee's Charachter as stated by friends and family vs. JVS charchter as displayed on his various websites

we DO NOT KNOW if she was drunk or just drinking and not falling down drunk, her friend saw her at closing time at C&C's & said she was not drunk

we KNOW she knew Joran atleast 2 days before she dissappeared, leaving with him

we KNOW there's 4 ppl in custody & the Aruban LE is not gonna tell us anything else per law

we KNOW that Nat's family, friends, and ppl on the trip and whoever else deemed appropriate have been questioned and we are not going to find out what was said at this point.

Thats a summary of what we know, K?


If I have forgotten anything that we KNOW plese help DGE out.... I digress
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« Reply #413 on: June 20, 2005, 02:58:10 PM »

i totally agree
and i am not a troll
i can speak and say what i feel
i am just thinkin outside the box.
please people
if someone doesnt agree with everyone it doesnt make them a troll.
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« Reply #414 on: June 20, 2005, 02:58:16 PM »

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you must look at all sides and know all facts before coming to closure
in order to make an educated guess
its frustrating no one wants to look at things from all angles


If looking at things at all angles includes maligning a young woman and her family, insulting southern women, etc,,,then you might as well get used to being frustrated.

Because not only is it cruel and hateful, it isn't helpful.


i agree totally  
cant we all agree to just pray she is still alive??
that is why we are here is it not???




i thought it was a discussion group.......not a prayer meeting
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« Reply #415 on: June 20, 2005, 02:58:40 PM »

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the scuffle between Joran and some of the boys from Mountain Brook took place at the Holiday Inn Casino when Joran was with Natalee then, a few days earlier, as reported by the Birmingham News


Not at HI. It was at C&C.


This must be one of the cases which information is not mentioned or contained. Yes there was a shoving match that very same night, to me it sounds like something serious. almost to blows, but we do not know the reason ...I think this is a crucial information and some will dismiss this as nonrelevant.


There was a rumor that Natalee had a boyfriend from Mountain Brook that made the trip. It would be interesting to hear more about the scuffle in the bar. Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #416 on: June 20, 2005, 02:58:40 PM »

Is Bendex still here? You seem to have some interesting insights and mentioned at one point a source being the the Dutch Ministry of Justice - has Paul VDS been calling home to his colleagues there for help?
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« Reply #417 on: June 20, 2005, 02:58:41 PM »

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well i am new and didnt know this had all been discussed sheesh.


It's ok. I just hope you understand that we have all discussed it and come to pretty much the same opinion.  Certainly no one is perfect, but most of us agree that Natalee wasn't doing anything "slutty" or immoral that night.
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« Reply #418 on: June 20, 2005, 02:59:59 PM »

devil- i agree
this is a forum
a discussion is a conversation where people offer ideas.
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« Reply #419 on: June 20, 2005, 03:00:05 PM »

Quote from: "Terry"
Quote from: "Another K in Texas"
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guys I teach high school.  Times have changes.  Kids meet and mix and mingle quickly.

As I said, Joran and Nat would have much in common. Leaving together is not a sign of a bad girl.
Much agreed.



HI DIVA.


Texas Terry?

Hello! Smile
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