RBN # 13 - 6/20/05

[devilsadvocate]

If they hold Steve Croes for another 8 days then they must have also reasonable suspicion or some evidence that he sure is involved, because he gets instantly the 8 days!


Maybe is the "A" initial someone mentioned earlier; Maxito Arendsz
who the will arrest.

Pff even for a "Dutch"girl like me it`s getting confusing now!

i'll say it again its those pics in the camera

[bendex]

some questions perhaps someone can fill me in .

How many cars of suspects where detained

1. the honda civic of the kapoe brothers
2. the 2 cars of de vds familiy


Which houses of the suspects have been searched ?
1. vds house

Any others ?

Where did Joran and Natalee actually met for for the first time in Aruba
Whas that in the Mariott casino



trying to fill in some gaps can anyone help me out here ?



Many thanks in advandce

[cancon]

that is interesting inspector detector

you know what I wonder did any of the kids from Mountainbrook go up to the Lighthouse too I wonder or did they all call it a night after C & C's - I mean their flight didn't leave until what, 11:30 pm 12:30 pm???

if the Lighthouse or the Fisherman's Huts were party spots???

which then begs the question, shouldn't the Aruban authorities have delayed the flight back and questioned every single kid thoroughly

can we be so sure no one from Mountainbrook wasn't involved

[iquitos]

hi ya'll..........while following up on some of the links posted here, and doing all the reading. I understood S.Croes family to have said he did not know joran, but here is a picture at what appears to be a party, with joran, steve and a couple of others!  It is the 7th picture down, also I heard an investigative reporter from Aruba this am on Fox report Croes only know deepak and not joran

http://joranvandersloot.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_joranvandersloot_archive.html

Steve Croes as seen on tv and on internet appears in none of these pictues.  Why do you persist in this disinformation?  Are you blind?

[Another K in Texas]

The think is you can see the join date of a poster.  When someone has been here since the start of the forum and they tell you something did or did not happen, go look it up.  

It gets frustrating to as we say in texas "Keep Beating a dead horse."

Either quit fighting or use the excellent search function set to posts and go read for yourself.

[Terry]

Also,

guys I teach high school.  Times have changes.  Kids meet and mix and mingle quickly.

As I said, Joran and Nat would have much in common. Leaving together is not a sign of a bad girl.

Much agreed.



HI DIVA.

Texas Terry?

Hello!

Am in Texas, yes. Seen ya name at CTV.  

[Bill8268]

I know I'm not supposed to feed the trolls but I'm breakin' the rules:

DONTGETEXCITED
I am from the South my hubby is from Baltimore, YES A BIG CITY, and I have done just fine on my multiple visits to the "big city"  

This is no ones fault but whoever took or hurt Natalee!!! Leave her friends and everyone else ALONE!

I am a site admin on a website and if I had the power here I would shut you down!  
Take your weird posts somewhere else, I'm sure there's some ppl at courttv's msg boards you could get along with  

YOU are mean!

NOW BACK TO OUR REGULAR PROGRAMMING:  

Ooops...you are right about the "ignoring."  Catriana has told us to do that  I guess some of these negative, mean-spirited people were getting to me...

I will ignore the trolls...
I will ignore the trolls...
I will ignore the trolls...
I will ignore the trolls...
I will ignore the trolls...

Ghost time

[absolut]

that is interesting inspector detector

you know what I wonder did any of the kids from Mountainbrook go up to the Lighthouse too I wonder or did they all call it a night after C & C's - I mean their flight didn't leave until what, 11:30 pm 12:30 pm???

if the Lighthouse or the Fisherman's Huts were party spots???

which then begs the question, shouldn't the Aruban authorities have delayed the flight back and questioned every single kid thoroughly

can we be so sure no one from Mountainbrook wasn't involved

The police did not take this as a case until Nat's family had provided enough names and details to warrant it. If it wasn't for their research the police would have waited 48 hours from time of  last scene.

[HannieC]

Bendex,

The house of the kalpoes has also been searched in the beginning, that`s what we saw on tv they came out with that computer stuff.

[mojo]

bendex

originally 3 cars were impounded from johns and jones
then the honda
then the vds two cars


things were removed from johns and jones house
the kalpoe house
the vds house was the only one "searched" with a team as far as i know

[americaninaruba]

ok someone had posted a MAX ARENDS of a speed shop had been arrested, this is a very well known freind (better known than steve...recent friend) it was NOT him...apparently it was JOrans class mate that was already interviewed by the police.......he is in the saem class as JOran.....but again im not 100% sure of that but i AM sure it wasnt maxito arends of the speed shop

[bamabelle11]

There was a rumor that Natalee had a boyfriend from Mountain Brook that made the trip. It would be interesting to hear more about the scuffle in the bar. [/quote]

Natalee did not have a boyfriend.... and I  don't think she has ever had a serious bf

[heavyheart]

the scuffle between Joran and some of the boys from Mountain Brook took place at the Holiday Inn Casino when Joran was with Natalee then, a few days earlier, as reported by the Birmingham News

Not at HI. It was at C&C.

This must be one of the cases which information is not mentioned or contained. Yes there was a shoving match that very same night, to me it sounds like something serious. almost to blows, but we do not know the reason ...I think this is a crucial information and some will dismiss this as nonrelevant.

There was a rumor that Natalee had a boyfriend from Mountain Brook that made the trip. It would be interesting to hear more about the scuffle in the bar.

It has been stated that she did NOT have a boy friend.

[BlueKyGirl]

This person who was found decapitated, Renee Van Hannikan (I have only seen that name on the blogs, not in news, so I have no idea if I'm spelling that correctly)--was that a man or woman? I'm just curious and trying to think of every angle if these crimes are connected.

[klaasend]

This person who was found decapitated, Renee Van Hannikan (I have only seen that name on the blogs, not in news, so I have no idea if I'm spelling that correctly)--was that a man or woman? I'm just curious and trying to think of every angle if these crimes are connected.

Man

[absolut]

This person who was found decapitated, Renee Van Hannikan (I have only seen that name on the blogs, not in news, so I have no idea if I'm spelling that correctly)--was that a man or woman? I'm just curious and trying to think of every angle if these crimes are connected.

Man, the story is girlfriend had him killed.

[nikkibnurse]

Oh My goodness, guys..I went to lunch, came back, and read the posts from the past few hours...I think a few people need to take a break for a bit  
 Anyways, there's no sense in hashing and rehashing someone's character again and again...ok?
This shouldnt be a "south vs.north " issue...
This shouldnt be a place to criticize one's character or one's belief system..
There really shouldnt be all of this "back biting" in here..  C'mon guys, we are here for one common goal..that is to post news on what we know about NH's disappearance and to give support to each other..this is a VERY FRUSTRATING case...I know that...and we all have said things in here I am sure are distasteful to people at times..
Please lets try to keep in mind that there are people in here that are Arubian, and people that go to school with Nat and love her...
Bottom line is, none of us know what happened to her, it is all speculation at this point, and even though we come here to hear"rumors and breaking news", let's try to be civil to one another and respectful of those who post and "lurk".
And remember....ghost the trolls...they are not worth your time and energy...That energy could be spent reporting something significant on Nat!!!

Thanks for listening to me vent  

[Angiex911dsptchr]

i totally agree
and i am not a troll
i can speak and say what i feel
i am just thinkin outside the box.
please people
if someone doesnt agree with everyone it doesnt make them a troll.

 I agree with you..everyone is entitled to their own opinions..I am new..and have been reading this for weeks.I decided to join today finally....I have read all that I could ..not only on this site but others!! I have asked questions on here and got no answers either..!! I guess us newbie people dont matter cuz we wernt here from the beginning..thats IMO...!! I have read ALOT and feel like I know everyone...I wish I would of joined sooner..
   God Bless NH family and friends...

[martin connahey]

da wench wrote:

She may have left CnC's willingly only thinking she was getting a ride to the hotel. I can't tell you how much it pisses me off to read comments that continually blame Natalee or her friends for this. They are kids, for God's sake. Lay off.

Sentence by sentence:
Willingly, or maybe not willingly, nh left C+C's. It bothers you to read opinions other than your own, we understand this from your previous red-letter posts. Natalee is a woman, not a girl/kid, as any card-carrying feminist will tell you. Lay off? If, by such, you mean stop speculating and speaking freely, then I can assure you the answer is "Never."

--MC

[Terry]

This person who was found decapitated, Renee Van Hannikan (I have only seen that name on the blogs, not in news, so I have no idea if I'm spelling that correctly)--was that a man or woman? I'm just curious and trying to think of every angle if these crimes are connected.

A man. And I have heard his wife had it done, but who knows at this point. Could be a rumor, remember that.