RBN # 13 - 6/20/05

[BlueKyGirl]

The think is you can see the join date of a poster.  When someone has been here since the start of the forum and they tell you something did or did not happen, go look it up.  

It gets frustrating to as we say in texas "Keep Beating a dead horse."

Either quit fighting or use the excellent search function set to posts and go read for yourself.

I totally agree with this--I get sick of people saying the same things over and over again. I just wanted to point out that some of us (like me) have been lurking and reading for awhile, but have only recently joined. Don't judge us only by our join date--some of us have been reading since the beginning!

[bendex]

thanks guys , i am organizing a fact sheet .

[americaninaruba]

This person who was found decapitated, Renee Van Hannikan (I have only seen that name on the blogs, not in news, so I have no idea if I'm spelling that correctly)--was that a man or woman? I'm just curious and trying to think of every angle if these crimes are connected.

it was a 32 yr old MALE

[puggywug]

ok someone had posted a MAX ARENDS of a speed shop had been arrested, this is a very well known freind (better known than steve...recent friend) it was NOT him...apparently it was JOrans class mate that was already interviewed by the police.......he is in the saem class as JOran.....but again im not 100% sure of that but i AM sure it wasnt maxito arends of the speed shop

HI!     THANKS FOR THE UPDATE!

So, just to clarify, you are saying that Max Arends, friend of JvdS from International School WAS the one questioned by police?  As far as you know Maxito the race car driver WAS NOT questioned?

[absolut]

It is really not necessary to post that you have ghosted.

[DivaToo]

Also,

guys I teach high school.  Times have changes.  Kids meet and mix and mingle quickly.

As I said, Joran and Nat would have much in common. Leaving together is not a sign of a bad girl.

Much agreed.



HI DIVA.

Texas Terry?

Hello!

Am in Texas, yes. Seen ya name at CTV.  

Yep, got tired of the bashing over there, I got tired of repeating myself. LOL, if you wanna reveal your nic in PM that would be cool. I thought you were TexasYankee  

[cancon]

OK I stand corrected, it is not clear from the Birmingham News report where the scuffle took place, unless there is another version floating around

"The scuffle started after Van Der Sloot, had been talking to 18-year-old Holloway at a bar where she and classmates hung out during the five-day trip, Reynolds said"

"Reynolds said he saw the suspects hanging out at the Holiday Inn where the Mountain Brook High School graduates stayed in Oranjestad."

[BlueKyGirl]

This person who was found decapitated, Renee Van Hannikan (I have only seen that name on the blogs, not in news, so I have no idea if I'm spelling that correctly)--was that a man or woman? I'm just curious and trying to think of every angle if these crimes are connected.

it was a 32 yr old MALE

Thanks--by the way I hope you'll keep posting here. I really enjoy your insights, as many others do.

Do you know the correct spelling of the name?

[americaninaruba]

ok someone had posted a MAX ARENDS of a speed shop had been arrested, this is a very well known freind (better known than steve...recent friend) it was NOT him...apparently it was JOrans class mate that was already interviewed by the police.......he is in the saem class as JOran.....but again im not 100% sure of that but i AM sure it wasnt maxito arends of the speed shop

HI!     THANKS FOR THE UPDATE!

So, just to clarify, you are saying that Max Arends, friend of JvdS from International School WAS the one questioned by police?  As far as you know Maxito the race car driver WAS NOT questioned?

EXACTLY....I just got of the phone with MA the CAR DRIVER he owns a speed shop here....it was NOT him

[puggywug]

thanks guys , i am organizing a fact sheet .

THANK YOU!

[americaninaruba]

This person who was found decapitated, Renee Van Hannikan (I have only seen that name on the blogs, not in news, so I have no idea if I'm spelling that correctly)--was that a man or woman? I'm just curious and trying to think of every angle if these crimes are connected.

it was a 32 yr old MALE

Thanks--by the way I hope you'll keep posting here. I really enjoy your insights, as many others do.

Do you know the correct spelling of the name?

Renee Van Heningen

[devilsadvocate]

quote]if she was a goodie 2 shoes her friends would have noticed she didnt get back to the hotel after leaving with 3 dudes......thats just my opinion...the fact they didnt notice or think anything wrong suggest she stayed out very late before while hanging out with locals

It's been reported that there was a lot of room switching going on that night and some kids stayed out by the pool the entire night.  I don't think it is that unusual that her roomates didn't know exactly where Natalee was until it was time to go to the airport since her bags were already packed.  Whether they thought she was with Joran or other friends at the hotel isn't the point.  She may have left CnC's willingly only thinking she was getting a ride to the hotel.  I can't tell you how much it pisses me off to read comments that continually blame Natalee or her friends for this.  They are kids, for God's sake.  Lay off.[/quote]



no one here is blaming nat for some savage's crime....but that no one checked for the 1 good girl seen leaving in a car does not make sense i dont care how much room switching was going........SHE LEFT WITH 3 DUDES....duh

[sandy]

Does anyone agree with me that decapitation is a rather extreme way to celebrate Fathers Day

[ScubaSteve]

posted by Riehl on his site last night:

"Update: An initial report suggests the decapitation may have had something to do with drug trafficking as some say the head was actually sent back to Columbia. That is unconfirmed."

[klaasend]

i totally agree
and i am not a troll
i can speak and say what i feel
i am just thinkin outside the box.
please people
if someone doesnt agree with everyone it doesnt make them a troll.

 I agree with you..everyone is entitled to their own opinions..I am new..and have been reading this for weeks.I decided to join today finally....I have read all that I could ..not only on this site but others!! I have asked questions on here and got no answers either..!! I guess us newbie people dont matter cuz we wernt here from the beginning..thats IMO...!! I have read ALOT and feel like I know everyone...I wish I would of joined sooner..
   God Bless NH family and friends...

I think what happened to you is that you joined this morning around the same time as DONTGETEXCITED and everyone was

[waitingtoknow]

Oh My goodness, guys..I went to lunch, came back, and read the posts from the past few hours...I think a few people need to take a break for a bit  
 Anyways, there's no sense in hashing and rehashing someone's character again and again...ok?
This shouldnt be a "south vs.north " issue...
This shouldnt be a place to criticize one's character or one's belief system..
There really shouldnt be all of this "back biting" in here..  C'mon guys, we are here for one common goal..that is to post news on what we know about NH's disappearance and to give support to each other..this is a VERY FRUSTRATING case...I know that...and we all have said things in here I am sure are distasteful to people at times..
Please lets try to keep in mind that there are people in here that are Arubian, and people that go to school with Nat and love her...
Bottom line is, none of us know what happened to her, it is all speculation at this point, and even though we come here to hear"rumors and breaking news", let's try to be civil to one another and respectful of those who post and "lurk".
And remember....ghost the trolls...they are not worth your time and energy...That energy could be spent reporting something significant on Nat!!!

Thanks for listening to me vent  

AMEN SISTAH!

[inspector_detector]

well i am new and didnt know this had all been discussed sheesh.

It's ok. I just hope you understand that we have all discussed it and come to pretty much the same opinion.  Certainly no one is perfect, but most of us agree that Natalee wasn't doing anything "slutty" or immoral that night.

Well we know she was drunk, and sick in a bar where drugs are being sold. Then left with 3 guys she doesnt know to an isolated beach. Maybe she was willing to make a gangbang video? Who knows? Who cares? All this talk about her character is totally irrelevent! Shut up about "Natalee is a goodie goodie 2 shoes southern belle Scarlet O'hara and would never do anything bad" allready! You are insulting everyones intelligence!

[iquitos]

Joran was also
honor student
involved with sports
we found out other stuff because we dug for it and demanded it
why dont arubans have the same right?

We also know Joran was a poker player and might have been pretty good at it.  Did he clean out the MB boys before the scuffle they had at the HI  casino?  Was he at the casino Monday night participating in a poker competition?  Where was he when the Alabama posse, his dad, and the cops arrived at the casino with guns drawn and did not find him?  Was it the grey Kalpoe car he and Satish were leaning on when the posse got back to his house?

[clevfan1234]

ok someone had posted a MAX ARENDS of a speed shop had been arrested, this is a very well known freind (better known than steve...recent friend) it was NOT him...apparently it was JOrans class mate that was already interviewed by the police.......he is in the saem class as JOran.....but again im not 100% sure of that but i AM sure it wasnt maxito arends of the speed shop

thanks for that info, a in a

[americaninaruba]

posted by Riehl on his site last night:

"Update: An initial report suggests the decapitation may have had something to do with drug trafficking as some say the head was actually sent back to Columbia. That is unconfirmed."

HAHAHHAHA im sorry for laughing but I think someones been seeing to many godfather reruns! hahahaha
the head was PArtially decapitated...not completely...and apparently the desciesed was "invovled" w/ something w/ drugs.....and apparently that was the reason fo rthe brutal murder.....again nothign confirmed just word on the street! we are ALL shocked about this this is the 1st time somethign of this caliber has happened...so bear w/ us while we try to take a breath with all this wild news thats been going on we are literally in shock w/ the event sfrom these last 3 weeks