RBN # 13 - 6/20/05

[TG]

Well said inspector!

[Angiex911dsptchr]

The think is you can see the join date of a poster.  When someone has been here since the start of the forum and they tell you something did or did not happen, go look it up.  

It gets frustrating to as we say in texas "Keep Beating a dead horse."

Either quit fighting or use the excellent search function set to posts and go read for yourself.

I totally agree with this--I get sick of people saying the same things over and over again. I just wanted to point out that some of us (like me) have been lurking and reading for awhile, but have only recently joined. Don't judge us only by our join date--some of us have been reading since the beginning!

Nicely said.. thats my point exactly!!!  But the news also only repeats the same thing over and over as well!!  ha ha

[golden]

OMG!!!

Personally, I don't care if Natalee was drunk off her a**.  She's missing and her family is distraught and frustrated.  For all those that must know all about her, just wait a day or two.  The Enquirer is already on the case, I'm sure the Star and other tabloids will follow.  Soon the whole world will know plenty about Natalee, the Twittys, Holloways and Mountain Brooke, Al. Since the tabloids pay for stories, they are bound to be sensational.

[da wench]

i totally agree
and i am not a troll
i can speak and say what i feel
i am just thinkin outside the box.
please people
if someone doesnt agree with everyone it doesnt make them a troll.

 I agree with you..everyone is entitled to their own opinions..I am new..and have been reading this for weeks.I decided to join today finally....I have read all that I could ..not only on this site but others!! I have asked questions on here and got no answers either..!! I guess us newbie people dont matter cuz we wernt here from the beginning..thats IMO...!! I have read ALOT and feel like I know everyone...I wish I would of joined sooner..
   God Bless NH family and friends...

I doubt your questions were ignored.  Sometimes the posts move so fast it is hard to keep up and you were probably just overlooked.  I wasn't here from day one either, but I feel like I am welcome here.  I think the main point is that nobody here wants to read any posts that are negative about Natalee or anyone else on the trip.  It is human nature to speculate and that is fine, but let's just please try to keep any rude comments about Natalee out of this forum.  She is the victim, whether was was drunk or not, whether she got in the car willingly or not...and whether she was wanting to spend time with Joran in the wee hours of the morn on her last night in Aruba or not....she is the VICTIM.  If you are part of the minority that thinks otherwise, perhaps your comments would be more appreciated on another blog.   And when I say "you" or "your" I mean that generally.  I'm not point to anyone specific (except maybe one who's name I won't mention but it starts with a "D" and ends with "evilsadvocate")

[waitingtoknow]

well i am new and didnt know this had all been discussed sheesh.

It's ok. I just hope you understand that we have all discussed it and come to pretty much the same opinion.  Certainly no one is perfect, but most of us agree that Natalee wasn't doing anything "slutty" or immoral that night.

Well we know she was drunk, and sick in a bar where drugs are being sold. Then left with 3 guys she doesnt know to an isolated beach. Maybe she was willing to make a gangbang video? Who knows? Who cares? All this talk about her character is totally irrelevent! Shut up about "Natalee is a goodie goodie 2 shoes southern belle Scarlet O'hara and would never do anything bad" allready! You are insulting everyones intelligence!

it has been confirmed that she was not drunk nor was she sick....she had been drinking, yes, but was not drunk from eye witness accounts...also, she was not sick...the person who was sick in the bathroom at the bar was a different girl on the trip...this has also been confirmed

[iquitos]

Hi,

Newbie here, but really like this site.

I have been reading several other sites as well, and curious if anyone knows of a timeline for all the cell phone calls that have been mentioned.  

I heard there was a call from one of the two brothers to Joran at about 4 am, then one from Joran's dad to Joran at about 6 am. I know kids tend to keep in touch with one another, meet up for parties, get togethers etc. via cell phone.  Does anyone know if any of that info has gotten out into a public forum?  I know the Dutch rules make access to any of the information difficult. In fact, I know that is why Joran's lawyer is being refused access visits to Joran for 8 days, since he apparently talked to witnesses in the case. (Maybe Joran's father?)

I also wonder if the police have searched the computers at the internet cafe?

Carlo is no longer Joran's attorney. He has two new attorney's and has since that barring.

We can not get evidence information as it is "private" and we have not heard any rumors etc of who called, texted etc other than what was stated byt he brothers.

 

Sorry Cali, But I think Carlo is still his attorney.  Just suspended by the court.  Court can't fire him.  Only the van der Sloots can.  Joran has an additional two others.

[DONTGETEXCITED]

ooo oooo ooooo does national have a website??
i know they got some good info

[ScubaSteve]

Any more news on the new arrest made today yet?

[klaasend]

Well we know she was drunk, and sick in a bar where drugs are being sold. Then left with 3 guys she doesnt know to an isolated beach. Maybe she was willing to make a gangbang video? Who knows? Who cares? All this talk about her character is totally irrelevent! Shut up about "Natalee is a goodie goodie 2 shoes southern belle Scarlet O'hara and would never do anything bad" allready! You are insulting everyones intelligence!

1.  We don't know she was drunk, we know she was drinking.
2.  She was not sick in the bar - that story has been proven false, she was not sick in the bathroom at CnC.
3.  She expected to be taken back to her hotel, according to her friends.
4.  There is nothing in her history to suggest she would willing participate in a porn video.[/quote]

[Y'alls Psychic Detective]

well i am new and didnt know this had all been discussed sheesh.

It's ok. I just hope you understand that we have all discussed it and come to pretty much the same opinion.  Certainly no one is perfect, but most of us agree that Natalee wasn't doing anything "slutty" or immoral that night.

Well we know she was drunk, and sick in a bar where drugs are being sold. Then left with 3 guys she doesnt know to an isolated beach. Maybe she was willing to make a gangbang video? Who knows? Who cares? All this talk about her character is totally irrelevent! Shut up about "Natalee is a goodie goodie 2 shoes southern belle Scarlet O'hara and would never do anything bad" allready! You are insulting everyones intelligence!

Well, it is important in that her friends and relatives read this.  By every account, she always has been a "good girl."  One of her friends even said she wanted to wait until she got married to have sex.  Deal with it!

[nikkibnurse]

i totally agree
and i am not a troll
i can speak and say what i feel
i am just thinkin outside the box.
please people
if someone doesnt agree with everyone it doesnt make them a troll.

 I agree with you..everyone is entitled to their own opinions..I am new..and have been reading this for weeks.I decided to join today finally....I have read all that I could ..not only on this site but others!! I have asked questions on here and got no answers either..!! I guess us newbie people dont matter cuz we wernt here from the beginning..thats IMO...!! I have read ALOT and feel like I know everyone...I wish I would of joined sooner..
   God Bless NH family and friends...

I doubt your questions were ignored.  Sometimes the posts move so fast it is hard to keep up and you were probably just overlooked.  I wasn't here from day one either, but I feel like I am welcome here.  I think the main point is that nobody here wants to read any posts that are negative about Natalee or anyone else on the trip.  It is human nature to speculate and that is fine, but let's just please try to keep any rude comments about Natalee out of this forum.  She is the victim, whether was was drunk or not, whether she got in the car willingly or not...and whether she was wanting to spend time with Joran in the wee hours of the morn on her last night in Aruba or not....she is the VICTIM.  If you are part of the minority that thinks otherwise, perhaps your comments would be more appreciated on another blog.   And when I say "you" or "your" I mean that generally.  I'm not point to anyone specific (except maybe one who's name I won't mention but it starts with a "D" and ends with "evilsadvocate")

Well said woman!

[amillerwvu]

da wench...you are too funny.  I liked that (listing who was wanted...err...not... on this site.)

[puggywug]

some questions perhaps someone can fill me in .

Check your pm.  I don't have answers to those questions, but I have a list of people I sent to your pm.

[Y'alls Psychic Detective]

ok someone had posted a MAX ARENDS of a speed shop had been arrested, this is a very well known freind (better known than steve...recent friend) it was NOT him...apparently it was JOrans class mate that was already interviewed by the police.......he is in the saem class as JOran.....but again im not 100% sure of that but i AM sure it wasnt maxito arends of the speed shop

HI!     THANKS FOR THE UPDATE!

So, just to clarify, you are saying that Max Arends, friend of JvdS from International School WAS the one questioned by police?  As far as you know Maxito the race car driver WAS NOT questioned?

Someone claiming to be the sister of Max Arrends posted on another board that it was not her brother who was being questioned, but someone else named Maxito.  Of course, there's no way to know if she was legit.

[inspector_detector]

ok someone had posted a MAX ARENDS of a speed shop had been arrested, this is a very well known freind (better known than steve...recent friend) it was NOT him...apparently it was JOrans class mate that was already interviewed by the police.......he is in the saem class as JOran.....but again im not 100% sure of that but i AM sure it wasnt maxito arends of the speed shop

HI!     THANKS FOR THE UPDATE!

So, just to clarify, you are saying that Max Arends, friend of JvdS from International School WAS the one questioned by police?  As far as you know Maxito the race car driver WAS NOT questioned?

So are there 2 Max Arends or not? has this been resolved?

[Hagie9]

Once again, Tom is doing a great job on the radio interview!  

[devilsadvocate]

Maybe this is a dumb question.. Has anyone or any of her roomates actually seen her pack her bags that were in the hotel room?? When would she have done that??  If a roomate was there..perhaps they may have seen her do so. I havnt heard anything about that.. I just wondered  about that..

not a dumb question at all ....a couple said they saw her snorkling all day and dancing all night and wondered where she got all her energy....leaving me to wonder when did she pack all her stuff if she was out all day and night....
or did she pack her own bags hmmmmm?

[BlueKyGirl]

Well we know she was drunk, and sick in a bar where drugs are being sold. Then left with 3 guys she doesnt know to an isolated beach. Maybe she was willing to make a gangbang video? Who knows? Who cares? All this talk about her character is totally irrelevent! Shut up about "Natalee is a goodie goodie 2 shoes southern belle Scarlet O'hara and would never do anything bad" allready! You are insulting everyones intelligence!

1.  We don't know she was drunk, we know she was drinking.
2.  She was not sick in the bar - that story has been proven false, she was not sick in the bathroom at CnC.
3.  She expected to be taken back to her hotel, according to her friends.
4.  There is nothing in her history to suggest she would willing participate in a porn video.

[/quote]

Since when was Scarlett O'hara a goodie goodie? Have you SEEN <I>Gone With the Wind</I>?

[la_cavalière]

Is the person who was arrested today thought to be Max Arendz, the race car driver? I apologize if this has been covered, but I don't have time now to wade through dozens of pages to find the answer.

Thank you!

[writenow]

you think if one arubian was lost in alabama, alabama would be searching for him or her like the arubians are doing right now??.

YES, they would be. Maybe you don't pay attention when people go missing, but if there is evidence of foulplay (as opposed to non-violent custody issues or persistent teenage runaways), they get enormous attention from people willing to seach and they get local and frequently national media coverage. witness the disappearance of 2 young boys in the u.s. Massive search is going on with lots of people looking.