RBN # 13 - 6/20/05

[mbhs05]

RUMOR SPECULATION
THEORY WHATEVER.
ITS NOT THE HITLER SITE WHERE WE ALL MUST THINK AND DO ALIKE OR GET KICKED OUT.

Well look, when people blame Natalee, her friends, chaperones, family, or say she isn't a victim, say she acted stupidly....etc...people will get angry at you, and they should. There is a Theory and Speculation forum, and that's where those things belong. In here we discuss news and actual facts, and the people in here, including me and other people from Mountain Brook, do not put up with slander. That's why everyone is getting so annoyed.

No...if people are going to be crazy there's no reason to have to go all the way to Aruba to do it. That's ridiculous.
Why?
I don't know about EVERYONE, but me and my friends usually hang out together, drive aimlessly, watchmovies, go to the mall, play pranks...that kind of thing. Things that don't cost money. THere's house parties every now and then, but they aren't common. I've never been to one. And most people don't go downtown to clubs or anything. Concerts are popular though.

mbhs ..what do kids do on weekend nights around ur town

did nat party alot?.........drinking at house parties and such?

Um no...not a partier. I have never hung out with her outside of school, but party girls are known for it, and she wasn't one.

did any of the party girls ever say " what happens in aruba stays in aruba"
before the trip

do u know if nat was considered as one of the hottest girls going on the trip...the mbhs boys point of view

Um I don't know...but she didn't have romantic ties to any of them, so that isn't even relevant. The guys in our grade aren't these horomonal wolves...she's one of the prettiest girls in our grade, but here almost eveyrone is pretty.

[LilOrphan]

i dont take any words for truth actually.
i deduct my own opinions.

common sense.
unbiased views
and common knowledge

formulate my opinion

Hey, you left out "questions that are three weeks old and have already been answered ad nauseam."  That seems to be the main accessory for your wannabe original Columbo costume.

[Shellbell]

From Dans blog, has anyone heard this?



The radio did not report they confessed to killing Natalee. That was a seperate report in which Joran reportedly confessed that "something bad happened". The radio reported she was dead on June 11 and they were confirming it with their source. Then we learn that Steve Croes is the nephew of one of the commentators on that radio stations,

Posted by: Island Hopper | June 20, 2005 12:48 PM

[ScubaSteve]

i am here to post my opinion
 i  believe this is a wild goose chase and they really dont know much and with all the media pressure now
and in fear of their economy going downhill
they are making alot of fast decisions
to make things look better.

To make things look better?  They would make it a point to leak out information about arrests etc. if that were the case.  They do quite the opposite.  


Petetion to BAN dontgetexcited anyone??

[DONTGETEXCITED]

cant you see all the arubans are doing is making quick arrests to pacify and shutup americans so it can look like they are doing something
when really they are just playing musical chairs

EXCITED,

Do you have any facts to back that up?  Didn't think so.  You don't seem to be a fan favorite on this fourm and since you do not have anything that is factual substantial to offer, not quite sure why you bother stirring up trouble with the people who actually do?  Or why you are here for that matter?

Excited,
I jsut wanted to know if you were aware of the fact that in AUA the laws are NOT like the Us , and here onthe island they are not allowedto give ALL informatino to the media beucase there might be more poeple involved (liek weve been confirming these last few days) and if ALLinformatino is let out then maybe others involved have a "better chance" to get rid of evidence or something liek that..so please try to understand that not everyother place in the world go under US law...just tryign to keep you infomed before you place judgement on somethign you cant be CONFIRMED of......tnx

i am not judging, i am just saying i think we are being too impatient and they are feeling the pressure and getting nervous, doing random things,

[mbhs05]

i am here to post my opinion
 i  believe this is a wild goose chase and they really dont know much and with all the media pressure now
and in fear of their economy going downhill
they are making alot of fast decisions
to make things look better.

To make things look better?  They would make it a point to leak out information about arrests etc. if that were the case.  They do quite the opposite.  


Petetion to BAN dontgetexcited anyone??

I'm all over that.

[KerinTX]

OK....just finished reading the last 10 pages for the few tidbits of new information.

So sad that our friends MBHS and AmericanInAruba are feeling such pressure when they have been such wonderful sources of updates and facts.

[rogers]

cant you see all the arubans are doing is making quick arrests to pacify and shutup americans so it can look like they are doing something
when really they are just playing musical chairs

I have been reading much of the past postings to get caught up.  It is clear that DONTGETEXCITED has annoyed a great many, but also does't seem to want to do that.  So, DGE here is the deal:

When you start a phrase with the words "cant you see"  you are immediately suggesting that you do see and that others aren't as capable as you.  

In reality, others know that what you are suggesting is a possibility.  A logical possiblity, which may or may not be probable.

You are not smarter than we are. In fact this board is made up of many that are aware of all the possibilities and are a good deal smart than you.

So, if you don't want people to get angry or annoyed with you, stop thinking you are smarter than the others.  You most certainly are not.

[heavyheart]

I second the ban.  Where's our moderator?

[mbhs05]

cant you see all the arubans are doing is making quick arrests to pacify and shutup americans so it can look like they are doing something
when really they are just playing musical chairs

I have been reading much of the past postings to get caught up.  It is clear that DONTGETEXCITED has annoyed a great many, but also does't seem to want to do that.  So, DCE here is the deal:

When you start a phrase with the words "cant you see"  you are immediately suggesting that you do see and that others aren't as capable as you.  

In reality, others know that what you are suggesting is a possibility.  A logical possiblity, which may or may not be probable.

You are not smarter than we are. In fact this board is made up of many that are aware of all the possibilities and are a good deal smart than you.

So, if you don't want people to get angry or annoyed with you, stop thinking you are smart than the others.  You most certainly are not.

Agreed. And also making assumptions about Natalee or anyone involved when you have no information on them is another way to irritate people. If you're really on here for information...stop annoying people.

[martin connahey]

dontgetexcited says stuff you don't like, so you want to BAN? What is with you all wanting to squelch diversity of opinion? Don't like someone's post? Just petition to ban him/her. Grow up.
--MC

[LilOrphan]

I second the ban.  Where's our moderator?

Thirded. Couched in faux friendliness or not,  it's standard trolling.

[devilsadvocate]

RUMOR SPECULATION
THEORY WHATEVER.
ITS NOT THE HITLER SITE WHERE WE ALL MUST THINK AND DO ALIKE OR GET KICKED OUT.

Well look, when people blame Natalee, her friends, chaperones, family, or say she isn't a victim, say she acted stupidly....etc...people will get angry at you, and they should. There is a Theory and Speculation forum, and that's where those things belong. In here we discuss news and actual facts, and the people in here, including me and other people from Mountain Brook, do not put up with slander. That's why everyone is getting so annoyed.

No...if people are going to be crazy there's no reason to have to go all the way to Aruba to do it. That's ridiculous.
Why?
I don't know about EVERYONE, but me and my friends usually hang out together, drive aimlessly, watchmovies, go to the mall, play pranks...that kind of thing. Things that don't cost money. THere's house parties every now and then, but they aren't common. I've never been to one. And most people don't go downtown to clubs or anything. Concerts are popular though.

mbhs ..what do kids do on weekend nights around ur town

did nat party alot?.........drinking at house parties and such?

Um no...not a partier. I have never hung out with her outside of school, but party girls are known for it, and she wasn't one.

did any of the party girls ever say " what happens in aruba stays in aruba"
before the trip

do u know if nat was considered as one of the hottest girls going on the trip...the mbhs boys point of view

Um I don't know...but she didn't have romantic ties to any of them, so that isn't even relevant. The guys in our grade aren't these horomonal wolves...she's one of the prettiest girls in our grade, but here almost eveyrone is pretty.

do u think she might have been singled out because she was a bit naive or
was it a lack of attention from the boys from mbhs

[Angiex911dsptchr]

AIA, given the rude behavior of about five new posters, I don't blame you.

These trolls are ruining a great forum because of their attacks.  There are other places if they want to attack everyone and everything.

Way to go 05, hang in there and don't let them drive you away.


AIB, could you e-mail Tom or Red with what you are hearing at least, even if you don't want to share it here.

I am a new poster and hope I am not considered in the ATTACKS.. I havnt done so.. Maybe I was better off just sitting and reading and not typing anything.. !! I have been reading.. and read arguments and attacks.. everyone SHOULD be kind to one another and have RESPECT.. thats IMO... I still think that alot of people need to TAKE A BREAK..IMO only again..  Get some rest.. everyone stop attacking one another...and if poeple are going to make remarks about "NEW" people ...cant you use the persons name insteadof making us new people feel guilty like we have said something wrong??  Just a thought..

[Another K in Texas]

I would not be surprised if one person is pretending to be several of the new posters.

[CancunMole]

[
WHy didn't they just call Joran on his cell phone from the parents' house?

I've wondered that too Why didn't Joran's dad just call him instead of going with the parents and the police to the casino? Who told Joran that his dad, the police and Nat's parents were looking for him? Where was Joran if he wasn't at the casino? Was he really at home during that time? Just wondering...

I have thought about that too,,,,he possibly could have been at home all the time,,that is where the story gets muddied by his dad..[/quote]

Yep, Mom & kids could have been inside the whole time..and the Dad took them on a wild goose chase to give them some time to compose themselves.[/quote]

Since the father thought J was at the casino, he couldn't call him because you can't use cell phones in a casino (cheating possibilities).

[heavyheart]

dontgetexcited says stuff you don't like, so you want to BAN? What is with you all wanting to squelch diversity of opinion? Don't like someone's post? Just petition to ban him/her. Grow up.
--MC

All he/she is trying to do is incite arguments and inflame what was a nice conversation.  I think most here would agree that the board was a better place before he/she showed up.

[mbhs05]

RUMOR SPECULATION
THEORY WHATEVER.
ITS NOT THE HITLER SITE WHERE WE ALL MUST THINK AND DO ALIKE OR GET KICKED OUT.

Well look, when people blame Natalee, her friends, chaperones, family, or say she isn't a victim, say she acted stupidly....etc...people will get angry at you, and they should. There is a Theory and Speculation forum, and that's where those things belong. In here we discuss news and actual facts, and the people in here, including me and other people from Mountain Brook, do not put up with slander. That's why everyone is getting so annoyed.

No...if people are going to be crazy there's no reason to have to go all the way to Aruba to do it. That's ridiculous.
Why?
I don't know about EVERYONE, but me and my friends usually hang out together, drive aimlessly, watchmovies, go to the mall, play pranks...that kind of thing. Things that don't cost money. THere's house parties every now and then, but they aren't common. I've never been to one. And most people don't go downtown to clubs or anything. Concerts are popular though.

mbhs ..what do kids do on weekend nights around ur town

did nat party alot?.........drinking at house parties and such?

Um no...not a partier. I have never hung out with her outside of school, but party girls are known for it, and she wasn't one.

did any of the party girls ever say " what happens in aruba stays in aruba"
before the trip

do u know if nat was considered as one of the hottest girls going on the trip...the mbhs boys point of view

Um I don't know...but she didn't have romantic ties to any of them, so that isn't even relevant. The guys in our grade aren't these horomonal wolves...she's one of the prettiest girls in our grade, but here almost eveyrone is pretty.

do u think she might have been singled out because she was a bit naive or
was it a lack of attention from the boys from mbhs

I guess it's possible...on the other hand she's really popular so she probably did have guys and girls around here a lot. But I guess it's possible that Joran could have picked up on them not being ROMANTICALLY interested in her.

[KerinTX]

AIA, given the rude behavior of about five new posters, I don't blame you.

These trolls are ruining a great forum because of their attacks.  There are other places if they want to attack everyone and everything.

Way to go 05, hang in there and don't let them drive you away.


AIB, could you e-mail Tom or Red with what you are hearing at least, even if you don't want to share it here.

I am a new poster and hope I am not considered in the ATTACKS.. I havnt done so.. Maybe I was better off just sitting and reading and not typing anything.. !! I have been reading.. and read arguments and attacks.. everyone SHOULD be kind to one another and have RESPECT.. thats IMO... I still think that alot of people need to TAKE A BREAK..IMO only again..  Get some rest.. everyone stop attacking one another...and if poeple are going to make remarks about "NEW" people ...cant you use the persons name insteadof making us new people feel guilty like we have said something wrong??  Just a thought..

Hi Angie...welcome to the forum! We were all new once.   Did you post anything that has not been answered because there are some great sources in here right now.

[Shellbell]

From Dans Site:

Claire and others,

Be cautious visiting geocities.com/proud_college_republication/

I just heard that some have picked up a virus from the site. Hopefully, just a rumour, but update your virus definitions just in case!