RBN # 13 - 6/20/05

[hope]

Joran was supposed to be
a good kid too..
we dug for dirt and we got it on him
why dont arubans have the right to get their dirt?

Yes- they have the right to do that--------But do they have the right to take away an innocent girl from family that adores her regardless of any type of reputation you may have other than the fact is - she's a good kid

[Professor]

Here we go again. Paulus van der Sloot gives a time line that conflicts with known facts, and yet he is allowed to go free. Doesn't this remind you of the 11 days that JVDS, KS, and DS were allowed to go free after telling a story that conflicted with known facts? And two security guards were arrested, instead? Is perjury not a crime in Aruba? It makes you wonder why he is not in jail right now.

I understand the Dutch system of justice. It really isn't that different from the U. S. system, in that information is not released to the public.

But we DO have the ability to monitor whether progress is being made, or NOT made. And, right now, it's deja vu, all over again, to quote Yogi Berra.

None of us know the FACTS. We only know what we have SPECULATED from hearsay information.

That is correct. Nothing on this message board represents anything more than rumor and heresay. And?

[devilsadvocate]

mbhs....i dont understand why u get upset......the students were there they can help find her faster if they tell all they really know

[DivaToo]

Are we sure they didn't pack her stuff?

That is a valid point.  Exactly what I have questioned before.  How could so called friends let an obviously too drunk Natalee leave with 3 foreigners, a few hours before flight time.

That does not seem credible.  I know, I've been in that situation before and did not allow my friend to go...  Friends don't allow that.....

On the O'Reilly Factor he interviewed two friends of Natalee's that saw her at C&C's, Alana the girl interviewed said she spoke to Natalee at closing time and that Natalee did not appear drunk, and she asked Natalee if she was OK, Natalee said yes,Alana also said she would not have left Natalee if she had thought she was overly intoxicated. The other guy interviewed said he saw Natalee earlier in the week w/ Joran and also that nite dancing w/ him, and that she (Nat) did not appear drunk either

[klaasend]

Are we sure they didn't pack her stuff?

That is a valid point.  Exactly what I have questioned before.  How could so called friends let an obviously too drunk Natalee leave with 3 foreigners, a few hours before flight time.

That does not seem credible.  I know, I've been in that situation before and did not allow my friend to go...  Friends don't allow that.....

EXACTLY
WHY?
Its so frustrating!
it doesnt even make sense to let someone go off like that, I mean at least someone should have offered to go with her and not alone with 3 guys

This whole issue HAS been addressed by someone on the trip that has posted here in SM.  I don't think the rest of us want to re-hash this again.  You can do a search of posted by member name (----).  She was on the trip and has given us alot of insight.

[KKM]

MBHS

How are you today by the way?

Fine...just a LITTLE frustrated at the relentless, annoying "they should talk" comments about her roomates...sigh.

I guess that'll never go away though.

Anyway, how are you?

Sadly, I am afraid you are right.  Just keep in your heart what you KNOW most of us feel about Natalee and her family, sympathy and concern, along w/ a host of other emotions.

[clevfan1234]

Is the Yahoo natalee chatroom down? I can't seem to get in

We are up and Running.
People pop in & out.
Hi ((cat)) all all you Great SM'S

Weird that it won't let me in, it hangs in "logging in" mode

[Y'alls Psychic Detective]

Are we sure they didn't pack her stuff?

That is a valid point.  Exactly what I have questioned before.  How could so called friends let an obviously too drunk Natalee leave with 3 foreigners, a few hours before flight time.

That does not seem credible.  I know, I've been in that situation before and did not allow my friend to go...  Friends don't allow that.....

EXACTLY
WHY?
Its so frustrating!
it doesnt even make sense to let someone go off like that, I mean at least someone should have offered to go with her and not alone with 3 guys

A) They thought she was going back to her hotel
B) They saw her with one guy, not three
C) Most didn't see her get in the car
D) Many (if not all) the ones who saw her get in the car thought it was a taxi as they look like regular cars in Aruba

[cunucu]

On 6/20/2005 7:55:01 AM HBK-Info (IP-Logged)posted the following:

Latest info...Natalee Holloway
Natalee Holloway -UPDATE 30:The latest updates in the Natalee Holloway case concerns mostly reports on the van der Sloot family. The media has been reporting widely that Paulus van der Sloot has been questioned by police on Saturday and Sunday. Police superintendent Jan van der Straaten affirmed that van der Sloot was purely questioned as a witness, no more or no less, but the fact remains that Paulus van der Sloot has also been suspended from his duties as judge-in-training by the court of the Dutch Antilles and Aruba. Also according to a recent article in , The mother of  Joran van der Sloot, Anita, stated that the intention was to send Joran to the United States so he could continue with his studies there. So if this case had not taken place, Joran would have been in the United States right now arranging his personal affairs to establish himself there for the next few years. So this case is affecting the van der Sloot family as a whole, but the fact that Joran has not collaborated truthfully until now...CONTINUE...  

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just saw this...

http://www.hasibokos.com/

[nikkibnurse]

MBHS..chin up, hon..I know this is hard on you and the rest of the guys from MB...my sis lives there..I know you guys are innundated with stuff and people that doubt your credibility are not thinking of what you must be dealing with....hope all is well..hang in there..basically we all want the same thing, and that is natalee's safe return....

[CaliGirl]

Here we go again. Paulus van der Sloot gives a time line that conflicts with known facts, and yet he is allowed to go free. Doesn't this remind you of the 11 days that JVDS, KS, and DS were allowed to go free after telling a story that conflicted with known facts? And two security guards were arrested, instead? Is perjury not a crime in Aruba? It makes you wonder why he is not in jail right now.

I understand the Dutch system of justice. It really isn't that different from the U. S. system, in that information is not released to the public.

But we DO have the ability to monitor whether progress is being made, or NOT made. And, right now, it's deja vu, all over again, to quote Yogi Berra.

You can have one accident and get 10 different stories.  I am wondering if sometimes cops will account for different perspective and interpretation.  If you look at the famous OJ simpson for example.  The case of the no so fitting glove....at one hand you can say its the murderer glove, then OJ tries to put it on, and viola, it does not fit.  There fore using pure logic, you must aquit....

Agreed Compananzi. Like I always say there is a tiny truth to every lie. So it's like trying to filter out what 10 lies have that tiny bit of truth, making the real story in order to find Natalee.

[devilsadvocate]

The question of the day is: What is the connection
between the detained trio – van der Sloot and
the Kalpoe brothers – and the fourth detainee Steve
Croes?
Police detained the 26 year old Croes at his
residence in Santa Cruz early Friday morning after
he was invited to the police precinct to declare as
a witness the evening before. Apparently one of
the Kalpoe brothers mentioned his name during
interrogation. Because of apparent contradictions
Croes was detained for interrogation.

It seems to be one of the brothers 'fingered' to Steve Croes

most likely sgc was featured all over natalee's personal camera

[friend of monkeys]

we as Americans are taking the chance to bash any Aruba related issue (well the majority of us)

as far as the poly test ,its called propoganda and why not?
We are all questioning Aruba, why cant they use something against us or question us?
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

lets poly the public information officer fisrt, okay???

[watchingallalong]

troll alert

[CancunMole]

if the camera was found the pictures are the reason beth twitty expected more arrest in the case........is been suggested nh spend time with sgc and the pics may proof it.......hence his detention

This is the first I've heard of this. Is there a source available?

[batmanCJ]

Hi All~

Seems like another day without much news.  

One thing I just wanted to add . . . last night on Fox several folks mentioned that Joran was JUST 17, ONLY A KID, when they referred to him getting to see his parents . . .  

not to bash, but apparantly his parents thought he was old enough to live in his own apartment (on their property), stay out until all hours of the night, drink and gamble . . . hummmmmmm . . . sorry that just bugged me . . . had to get it off my chest . . . okay, now back to work  

[mbhs05]

mbhs....i dont understand why u get upset......the students were there they can help find her faster if they tell all they really know

Because they HAVE told the authorities. The information has been given to the RIGHT people. They don't need to be sharing it, and they know that. It might hinder the investigation. I'm just sick of people saying that they are "hiding" something and saying that they are not helping because they won't blab everything to the media. They are doing exactly what they are SUPPOSED to be doing.

[HannieC]

The brothers  (or one)......pointing the 'finger' to Joran
The brothers  (one) .........pointing the 'finger' to Croes
Did the brothers also pointed to the guards? or was it all three of them??

[CaliGirl]

On 6/20/2005 7:55:01 AM HBK-Info (IP-Logged)posted the following:

Latest info...Natalee Holloway
Natalee Holloway -UPDATE 30:The latest updates in the Natalee Holloway case concerns mostly reports on the van der Sloot family. The media has been reporting widely that Paulus van der Sloot has been questioned by police on Saturday and Sunday. Police superintendent Jan van der Straaten affirmed that van der Sloot was purely questioned as a witness, no more or no less, but the fact remains that Paulus van der Sloot has also been suspended from his duties as judge-in-training by the court of the Dutch Antilles and Aruba. Also according to a recent article in , The mother of  Joran van der Sloot, Anita, stated that the intention was to send Joran to the United States so he could continue with his studies there. So if this case had not taken place, Joran would have been in the United States right now arranging his personal affairs to establish himself there for the next few years. So this case is affecting the van der Sloot family as a whole, but the fact that Joran has not collaborated truthfully until now...CONTINUE...  

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just saw this...

http://www.hasibokos.com/

A great question to ponder. Why would a kid with some to gain in life, do something so stupid. I think that's more important to maul over than Natalee's action or character since we already know Natalee is wonderful!

[martin connahey]

Dittos to absolut. Someone should get Mom on a poly asap. ( We have to get her to shut up for 3 minutes and sit still, which might be impossible ) Similar situation in the U.S., and poly would have been done days ago to both parents, step-parents.

Is it true that authorities are questioning Gary Condit and Ted Kennedy?

Is it possible that Natalee is an alcoholic magician? She got drunk and disappeared.

Is it possible that nh ran off with Woody Allen, who has tired of his "older" wife-daughter Soon Yi?

Should the Aruban Tourism Bureau's new slogan be: "Aruba ! We're solving the world population crisis........... one tourist at a time." or,

"Aruba!-- Sun, Sand, Fun, Drug Lords, White Slavery."

George W Bush on the topic: "I'm sorry to hear that Conway Twitty is in some sort of trouble down in Saudi Arubia."

Weren't Carlos and Charlie a comedy team back in the 1940's? In a movie with Bob Hope entitled Road To Aruba. Anyone remember it?

Made-for-tv movie casting list has been leaked from a Hollywood studio. Joran, to be played by Leonardo di Caprio. Natalee Holloway......Alicia Silverstone. Surinamese brothers......the Olsen twins in black-face. Beth Twitty...... Cathy Lee Gifford.

I'm starting my "Don't Buy Aruban" campaign, encouraging people to not purchase products made there, like kiddie-porn, date-rape pills, shark-shaped contraceptive sponges, and that offensive new board game which features the cute blonde in black horn-rimmed glasses, called "Where's Natalee?"

God bless.