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« on: June 21, 2005, 06:11:52 AM »

A new thread for news and discussions.

PLEASE visit the link below with Tom and Red's WEBLOG for summaries of the information gathered here.

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Please be sure to read the TROLLS announcement. Thank you.

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A gentle reminder, that at times we get heated and angry over something we read. Perhaps something someone else says. When you feel yourself typing out things you would "never say to a person if they were standing in front of you", well.. that is the time to step away.

Get a coffee, watch some TV, hug your hubby/wife, take a walk, take a shower.... take a break. Go watch the sunset.

This is a highly emotional issue that has dragged on for weeks (and might go for weeks more).

Remember, we are all real people with real feelings. Sometimes, when we type out "words" they aren't taken in the same context that we meant them.

Give others the same latitude you would like them to give you. Don't assume the worst, look for how that person could have meant something other than the worst.

Life's too short. We are not lost... our loved ones know where we are.

Be thankful.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2005, 06:14:54 AM »

Good morning everyone!  I'm off to work... will check in as often as I can.

Play nice, boys and girls!   Laughing  Laughing
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2005, 06:33:31 AM »

Someone asked on #14 about this group...

The missing girl's uncle, Paul Reynolds, told Court TV Monday that the family has contracted the Dickinson-based Texas EquuSearch Mounted Search and Recovery Team to carrying out a search of the island.

New search methods
"They are going to help us search for Natalee in ways we couldn't before," Reynolds said without offering details.

Texas EquuSearch, made up of volunteers, said on its Web site that a team is traveling to Aruba this week

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2005, 06:34:28 AM »

obviously this has not escaped everyone's notice, but it seems to me that deepak is the linchpin in all of this.

he was driving, he knows jaron and steve croes, he worked at the internet cafe. his co-worker declined to comment on his character. he was lounging against the car with joran when natalee's family came to the vds house. these few things we know with a degree of certainty.

i continue to wonder how joran got home if he was not with the kalpoes

unlike joran, deepak had his brother, satish, to concoct and rehearse  his story at home. no email, no telephone, no sms necessary. they lived together. joran is the odd man out in all of this and obviously if either one or both of the kalpoes were not involved they would have told their story, the true story and that would have been that.  could satish be involved or that he knows too much and needs to be held until the culprits can be indicted.

like all of you, i remain mystified why nothing more has come out about this deepak or his family.   Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2005, 06:52:57 AM »

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obviously this has not escaped everyone's notice, but it seems to me that deepak is the linchpin in all of this.

he was driving, he knows jaron and steve croes, he worked at the internet cafe. his co-worker declined to comment on his character. he was lounging against the car with joran when natalee's family came to the vds house. these few things we know with a degree of certainty.

i continue to wonder how joran got home if he was not with the kalpoes

unlike joran, deepak had his brother, satish, to concoct and rehearse  his story at home. no email, no telephone, no sms necessary. they lived together. joran is the odd man out in all of this and obviously if either one or both of the kalpoes were not involved they would have told their story, the true story and that would have been that.  could satish be involved or that he knows too much and needs to be held until the culprits can be indicted.

like all of you, i remain mystified why nothing more has come out about this deepak or his family.   Rolling Eyes


according to joran, deepak came back to the HI and picked him up an hour or so later. no doubt someone is talking and steve croes would nt have been arrested unless it was on the words on one of the other three...
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2005, 06:53:57 AM »

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like all of you, i remain mystified why nothing more has come out about this deepak or his family.   Rolling Eyes


Morning...

Can you say "coverup"?  It is the one theme that pervades this entire mystery.   From Papa VDS, to the LE, to the "suspects"....it can be found in every single aspect of this case to date.

I simply cannot understand why there is NEVER anything written or said about Deepak's family.  How does that even happen in a crime that is being watched and followed by a majority of the planet????
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2005, 06:54:46 AM »

i thought that the tattoo only went out on wed, fri, and sat.. last night someone on fox kinda indicated that it might have been out on sun.. that does nt make sense...
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2005, 06:57:44 AM »

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i thought that the tattoo only went out on wed, fri, and sat.. last night someone on fox kinda indicated that it might have been out on sun.. that does nt make sense...


I don't know about that, but hasn't it generally been suggested that SGC wouldn't have taken the cruiser, but rather one of the smaller boats used to ferry people to it?   (That is, if he did anything at all!)  Probably no one would ever have noticed him in a smaller boat.
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2005, 06:57:46 AM »

I'm not so sure Deepak is the central figure - after Greta's conversation last night where the Diario guy slipped and said the following -- that "Joran contacted Croes that night because Deepak knew him"  -- here's what I was mulling over while my teen had her computer time last night:

Joran and Nat really were left alone and something bad happened.  Joran panicked and called Deepak, making it his problem as well. Upon arrival or merely after hearing the circumstances, Deepak suggested contacting his buddy Croes to help out.  

Of course that could be all wrong, but the Diario guy did say the words "Joran contacted Croes."  Which leads me to believe that it was the cell phone records that brought Croes into the picture, for certain. Sorry if this has been determined already but I'm one entire thread behind after being kicked off the computer last night.
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« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2005, 06:58:45 AM »

afternoon here but greetings....

pine, at this point i wouldn't confuse news embargo with cover-up.  

rob, i hadn't heard the latest on joran saying that deepak had returned. but i wonder who dropped croes name? you're right nothing seems to make sense. can they all be so callous as to think that if natalee is not found their problem goes away?
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2005, 07:02:50 AM »

if that's the case Lil - then wouldn't deepak and croes drop joran in it? and satish says i don't know, i wasn't there?

could they all have been so stupid as to think (or not think) that not going to a hospital would not be the best solution?
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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2005, 07:04:45 AM »

I wasn't here last night - what exactly is the latest scoop on Poppa VDS?  Is he still officially suspended?
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« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2005, 07:10:40 AM »

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afternoon here but greetings....

pine, at this point i wouldn't confuse news embargo with cover-up.  

rob, i hadn't heard the latest on joran saying that deepak had returned. but i wonder who dropped croes name? you're right nothing seems to make sense. can they all be so callous as to think that if natalee is not found their problem goes away?


thay was part of deepaks orignial story.. he dropped off jvds and natalee, at the marrott and was called back like an hour or an hour and a half later....he picked up only joran...im almost postive that the tattoo does not go out on sun.. there s no way.. not enough ppl to make it worth it on a sunday.. so if s.croes is involved he was either already there or was called...
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2005, 07:11:31 AM »

that's the latest, pine and i think it's safe to assume that his career in jurisprudence is in the toilet but who knows.

there was also a report in one of the local (to the antilles) papers that one of the inmates had attempted suicide and was under watch. no identity disclosed.

apparently the twitty/holloway family have engage a PI and lawyer and according to FOX this am at least in part that is to gain access to the police records. the judge has said he will not rule on any such suit until there is an indictment in the case.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160168,00.html
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« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2005, 07:12:05 AM »

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if that's the case Lil - then wouldn't deepak and croes drop joran in it? and satish says i don't know, i wasn't there?

could they all have been so stupid as to think (or not think) that not going to a hospital would not be the best solution?


Well, Deepak might have been responsible for procuring drugs if they were involved, or did go to help and suggested contacting Croes, which  makes him equally responsible for Nat's disappearance.  From Fox reports with various sources, wasn't it said that Satish is potentially expected to be released?

ITA about them going to a hospital, unless it was too late. However, once the decision not to was made - if it was, just going with a scenario of course and praying that Natalee is still in perfect physical health - then all three become equally responsible, yes?

His family seemed wealthy enough last night during the Greta interview. Father a businessman, the house wasn't shabby....so I'm not buying that the Kalpoe's were/are the ringleaders for a money reason.  Especially after the Diario guy specifically said Joran contacted Croes.
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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2005, 07:16:32 AM »

thanks, Rob.

phone records and other telecommunications methods should help. fortunately there is only one provider on the island - owned by the govt, so access to the records in a criminal investigation should be a no-brainer.
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2005, 07:16:34 AM »

Thanks for the update.

I can't see where VDS (pops) could possibly continue his career now that so many locals have claimed to see him with his underage son gambling and drinking in the casinos; i.e., breaking the law.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Texas EquuSearch there.  Wonder how this will go with LE.  Surely there has been communication between the two?
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2005, 07:17:45 AM »

Anyone know if the Boat DJ that was arrested had access to the boat all the time?? Possible with a set of keys to allow for burial of a body off the coast. For that matter, could have been to transport her to a different location in South America?
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2005, 07:19:50 AM »

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Anyone know if the Boat DJ that was arrested had access to the boat all the time?? Possible with a set of keys to allow for burial of a body off the coast. For that matter, could have been to transport her to a different location in South America?


His boss, immediately after he was arrested, seemed to think he could not have taken the boat out alone...something about the electronics on it.  I don't have a clue where I read that - most likely here in an earlier thread.
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2005, 07:20:25 AM »

Lil - i agree and definitely accessories after the fact and whoever supplied if in fact that is the case and can be established.

this whole thing is a horrible mess.  Sad
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