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« Reply #920 on: June 21, 2005, 03:09:08 PM »

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Missing Boy Scout Brennan Hawkins found alive re CNN!!

Thank God! Very Happy


wow, now we just need that same great news for Nat!!

Do you know where they found him? I know he was lost in those woods/mountains (not that familiar with where they were)


All that they are saying is he was found near Lilly Lake and he's in GOOD condition!  They are taking him to the hospital via helicopter.


Great news Smile
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« Reply #921 on: June 21, 2005, 03:09:18 PM »

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Missing Boy Scout Brennan Hawkins found alive re CNN!!

Thank God! Very Happy


wow, now we just need that same great news for Nat!!

Do you know where they found him? I know he was lost in those woods/mountains (not that familiar with where they were)


All that they are saying is he was found near Lilly Lake and he's in GOOD condition!  They are taking him to the hospital via helicopter.


well they can't get the helicopter in to where the boy is to get him out. Still trying, but an EMT is saying he is fine. Just trying to get the helicopter in......
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« Reply #922 on: June 21, 2005, 03:10:28 PM »

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EXCERPT FROM MONTGOMERY PAPER JUNE 19: http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/NEWSV5/storyV5familysearch19w.htm
"She had been missing less than 24 hours and we had all three names and addresses, so it's just disappointing that they weren't able to move faster," said Jody Bearman, who organized the trip to Aruba for 125 students from Mountain Brook High School and seven chaperones.

Speaking in an interview with The Associated Press late Friday, Bearman said Aruban authorities weren't totally to blame for their early failure to identify van der Sloot and the others, something she said the amateur sleuths did in less than three hours in Aruba.
"They did not know what was going on," she said. "We were there on a mission."


Terrified after hearing news any parent dreads, Beth Holloway Twitty landed in Aruba about 12 hours after learning her daughter Natalee had vanished during a graduation trip.

Accompanied by her husband and friends including Bearman on a donated corporate jet, Holloway Twitty had a few bits of information from Mountain Brook graduates who were on the trip, most importantly a physical description of a Dutch teenager -- a judge's son, they thought -- with whom Natalee was seen leaving a bar, Carlos' N Charlies', on May 30, the night she disappeared.

Bearman said the group also was told that Holloway's friends had seen the same teenager in the casino at the hotel where they were staying.

With help from some locals, Holloway's mother and the others determined the youth had been in the casino playing in a Texas Hold 'Em poker tournament, according to Bearman.
Players had to sign in, she said, and that gave them a name and initial: Joran V.

"After talking to enough people, we were able to deduce that it was Joran van der Sloot," she said. "Once we got the name we were able to track the address through people and we got the police. They escorted us and we went straight to the house."

Van der Sloot's father, Aruban judge-in-training Paul van der Sloot, said his son was out playing poker when the group first arrived at the house about 1 a.m., Bearman said. Still accompanied by police, the group went to a couple of places looking for van der Sloot before returning to the father's house and finding Joran van der Sloot there with one of the two Surinamese brothers who later were held.

"Basically we interrogated him," Bearman said. "He never denied being with her."

Van der Sloot described dancing with Holloway at the bar and said "she wanted to go with me" at closing time, according to Bearman.

Van der Sloot claimed he left Holloway outside the Holiday Inn resort where the group was staying after they took a late-night trip to a scenic lighthouse, Bearman said, and he even accompanied the family to the hotel to show them the exact spot where she was dropped off.

His story didn't add up, though, according to Bearman.

"We started pressing him on that because we had students who were in the lobby until 5 a.m., and she never arrived," she said.

While Aruban police were present during the questioning of van der Sloot, which lasted until about 3 a.m., officers left the talking to Holloway's family until things began to get "heated," Bearman said.

Van der Sloot and the Surinamese brothers -- Deepak Kalpoe, 21, and Satish Kalpoe, 18 -- were interrogated by police the next day and released. While later taken into custody, no one has been charged. " END of EXCERPTS

#1. I think that she's just saying that kids were in the lobby and they would have seen Natalee if she had come in -- NOT tht they were waiting for her.

I agree with Iquitos that, however well-intentioned, this whole thing might have been handled badly by Americans from the start. I'm not saying that I wouldn't have done the samething.

My question and one that I bet you will see the Twitty's come back to after this is resolved in one way or another:

Not casting stones -- just curious...but it looks from this article and from other information put out that no one even went to the police until after the Twitty's got there and THEY obtained the background on Joran  -- not the Alabama group that was already there on the ground with a girl missing since 1:00 am. Could it be that they thought she indeed might be runaway case or fell asleep somewhere? I know hindsight is 20/20 but I tend to believe that we don't know the whole story behind the Alabam trip group version.

Maybe I'm missing something here but I just can't help wondering why didn't someone go to police or Embassy (if there is one) before the almost 24 hours when the Twitty's arrived.
 

THIS ARTICLE IS SO IMPORTANT IF YOU READ BETWEEN THE LINES A LITTLE BIT.  I WONDER IF THAT EXACT SPOT WAS COVERED BY CAMERAS.  IF IT IS, JORAN IS COOKED.
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« Reply #923 on: June 21, 2005, 03:10:33 PM »

Check out that clucka over there thinking hes all ghetto.  Hes a straight up poser, huh Cali and FOM?
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« Reply #924 on: June 21, 2005, 03:11:11 PM »

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I've been watching this board from the very beginning.  It used to be a vital place to get information before the MSM.  Now it seems as if this forum is so bogged down with meaningless chat that the true "leads" from the arubans are lost.

Also, everyone is so protective of their theories and if someone posts something that could be considered by small minded people as offensive they will be considered "trolls" or kicked off.  The way you people go about labeling people looks as if you're in the third grade.

I think you overlook the fact that many people have legitimate views but you immediately bash them...many opinions are being lost.


I agree to a great extent. I, for one, do find some of the alternative theories to be quite intriguing, even if they are highly unlikely. Of course, there is another forum (Theory and Speculation) that was set up for those discussions. This one is supposedly for Rumors of Breaking News, but it has evolved into something very different. I don't post here very often because of that.


I agree, this forum has evolved into a chatroom for mindless well wishers... Mad


Maybe there should be a Bantor thread for this kind of thing?
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« Reply #925 on: June 21, 2005, 03:11:12 PM »

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I agree, this forum has evolved into a chatroom for mindless well wishers... Mad


Yo.... Wesssttttssiiidde!  Shout out to Kerin and Caligirl.


at least it generates some positive energy and laughs here and there...
we are all here from day one for the Holloway family and for ARUBAS!
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« Reply #926 on: June 21, 2005, 03:11:36 PM »

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OMG now I am literally crying from laughing so hard...

Remember yesterday when we were talking about elder VDS being chased by the press... well..

Here's the monkey over in Aruba trying to get a scoop.. roflmaopimp

http://www.vatanappally.com/images/funny_monkey.jpg


HILARIOUS!!!!!


That's Geraldo getting his latest scoop, right?  Very Happy


Paulus Van Der Sloot was seen running after his latest round of questioning. It seems he was trying to outrun.....monkeys??....did I hear you correctly, Geraldo?


lol Paula!
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« Reply #927 on: June 21, 2005, 03:12:36 PM »

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let's see....could it be that we have already gone through the "photo scenario" days ago...beat it like a dead hourse actually. That's why Red and Tom have put all the old news in an area to be reviewed. But for anyone who wants to talk about it, I definitely don't think that's bad.
When there is breaking news, believe me...there will be plenty of opinions and theories flying around this forum. (right Rob?)


and mike the lazyass he said ho himself   LOLFOM!


FOM...OK...that's IT!!!!!!! I am crying from the news on FOX about Brennan being found and also crying from your hilarious comments!!!

Thank Goodness the little boy was found and is alive.. Hopefull NH will be also and this can be a great day for all!
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« Reply #928 on: June 21, 2005, 03:12:38 PM »

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I don`t think it`s the same person look at his chin.

You're right...chins are quite different, and 'pantie boy' has a mole on his face, which 'beanie boy' doesn't seem to have.


I see a resemblence(sp?) but in the 1st pic of panty boy--I don't see the mole as in the first pic of the black cap guy--but in the 3rd pic-def a mole there........If we had the black cap guy in diff angles-maybe we could see if there is a mole....Or maybe my computer screen is dirrrrty!!!!!!!!!!

But his left ear(right ear looking at your screen) sticks out--black cap man-it covers his ear-but I noticed it sticks out the same...cap is not smooth on that side of head.
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« Reply #929 on: June 21, 2005, 03:12:45 PM »

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THIS ARTICLE IS SO IMPORTANT IF YOU READ BETWEEN THE LINES A LITTLE BIT.  I WONDER IF THAT EXACT SPOT WAS COVERED BY CAMERAS.  IF IT IS, JORAN IS COOKED.


I thought it was established early on that the cameras would have shown her entering the building, although I don't know if it would have necessarily shown the car.
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« Reply #930 on: June 21, 2005, 03:14:08 PM »

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A couple of days ago, Fox mentioned that Beth finally looked at N's camera which had pictures from prom and graduation.


Please don't jump on me for saying this, but why didn't they look at this camera IMMEDIATELY, 3 weeks ago? There could have been important evidence on there, considering she was said to have been hanging around with some locals (or, a local) during the trip.
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« Reply #931 on: June 21, 2005, 03:14:21 PM »

Yo.... Wesssttttssiiidde!! Y'alls dawg, you on the down low?
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« Reply #932 on: June 21, 2005, 03:14:36 PM »

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Check out that clucka over there thinking hes all ghetto.  Hes a straight up poser, huh Cali and FOM?


You all kill me! lol

If you can "only" find time to post a complaint, then WOW, you just found time to post.

We are all adults here, some act like some other like children. No one is stopping you from posting and "IF" you are following the board etc..there is plenty of news.

Like Red himself has said, when we have no news, we keep it going with chat.
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« Reply #933 on: June 21, 2005, 03:14:39 PM »

For all of our Aruban friends:
This what Greta has on her "On the Record Site".

The one thing that I can't emphasize enough is that this island, but for Natalee, seems safe. The tourists I have spoken to say it is safe. Someone from the government asked me why we are covering this case so closely and I said because often we follow the "unusual" stories - and, frankly, this is unusual in Aruba.

I think the manner of investigations here in Aruba has also heightened the interest. Because the police do not hold press conferences, it can appear that either they are doing nothing or hiding something. Of course it could turn out when all the information is made public that the investigation was aggressive and thorough... we just don't know since we have so little information coming from the police. The risk is that when we don't know something that we let our imaginations run wild. This is one of the reasons I wanted to do the many walk and talks - to give you some more information.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160205,00.html


I think Americans are used to trying these cases in the press. That does not happen in Aruba. So, Americans are frustrated.
We all knew Scott P. was guilty, OJ was guilty, MJ is definitely 100% weird (about 50% think he is guilty) way before the trial.
They did not even arrest Peterson until they had the bodies. He was poised to split the country and he was not in custody. Give the Arubans a break. It will interesting to see what happens when the Texas boys show up. It wouldn't surprise me if they all blocked and the airport and never set foot on the island (outside customs) before being forced back.
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« Reply #934 on: June 21, 2005, 03:14:46 PM »

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A couple of days ago, Fox mentioned that Beth finally looked at N's camera which had pictures from prom and graduation.


Please don't jump on me for saying this, but why didn't they look at this camera IMMEDIATELY, 3 weeks ago? There could have been important evidence on there, considering she was said to have been hanging around with some locals (or, a local) during the trip.


I was thinking the same thing.
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« Reply #935 on: June 21, 2005, 03:15:17 PM »

KackyLacky
I think your ideas are out there but insightful.  If you post in the  theories section.  I have some questions for you.

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« Reply #936 on: June 21, 2005, 03:15:25 PM »

http://www.vatanappally.com/images/funny_monkey.jpg[/quote]

HILARIOUS!!!!![/quote]

can I get that one!!!!??????[/quote]
Sure just right click over the image and select the appropriate action.[/quote]

u know i would but i can email myself
 Rolling Eyes and then what please??
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« Reply #937 on: June 21, 2005, 03:15:37 PM »

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Regarding 'pantie boy' and 'black beanie boy', here are the untouched pictures - I tend to think there is a resemblance but I can't say for sure that it's the same person (for the first time anyone has suggested it! so many people are being confused hehe)







I AGREE THERE IS A RESEMBLANCE.  NOT CERTAIN THOUGH,  NEED TO JUXTAPOSE TWO FROM SAME ANGLE.  WAS PANTY BOY A DISTRACTION TOO OR WAS HE AFTER REWARD MONEY?
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« Reply #938 on: June 21, 2005, 03:15:43 PM »

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I agree, this forum has evolved into a chatroom for mindless well wishers... Mad


Yo.... Wesssttttssiiidde!  Shout out to Kerin and Caligirl.


at least it generates some positive energy and laughs here and there...
we are all here from day one for the Holloway family and for ARUBAS!


:::waving my Aruban flag:::::
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« Reply #939 on: June 21, 2005, 03:15:51 PM »

Absolutely, inspector_detector. This is slowly becoming chatroom for mindless well-wishers, sob sisters, bracelet salesmen, and ribbon-wearers. Maybe they can all join the texas gang-that-can't-shoot-straight and head on down to Party Island for some good old-fashioned snipe hunting.
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