RBN # 16 - 6/21 thru 6/22

[heavyheart]

anyone read this in the arubaam newspaper archive from 6/7/05 and remember any more news regarding what it stated?


http://www.arubaam.com/~victor/am07jun05.pdf
(top coulumn on page 1, right hand side with green background)

"The security tapes of the hotel indeed show the two guards, of the Allegro Resort, walking in front of the hotels..."

-anyone know if Mickey John and other detained guard or possibly other guards were working that night?

sorry if this is old news but just trying to start from the beginnning again...thnks

indeed both had alibis, in fact their employment contracts were over.

And if the alibis of these two checked out, then this report MUST be false. It seems we have a wide-spread and deliberate misinformation campaign going on here. We have DiarioAruba "car chase story," and the Panty Boy story, and the TOP95 report of Natalee Holloway in Nigeria, and now this AM Digital story that the two security guards alibis did NOT check out. Hmm.

And don't forget the supposed rumor "on the street" that the Holloways were defensive about taking a polygraphic examination. First, how would anyone on the street have access to the Holloways, and Second, why on earth would the Holloways be defensive about a polygraph? I would think they would welcome the introduction of polygraphic technology into this investigation. It just didn't add up.

Fugetaboutit...the polygraph...ain't gonna happen...shouldn't happen.

[klaasend]

Also just reported on CNN.  The US has sent 2 behavioral specialists that will sit in on interrigations of the subjects.

[da wench]

Okay, monkeys, don't laugh.  Some of you remember that a couple of days ago I posted that I was contacting Sylvia Browne.  This is the response I got today:

Thank you for your email and compassion towards the situation with Natalee. Sylvia adheres to psychic etiquette which means, she does not offer psychic information to families of missing/murder cases unless she is asked by the immediate family or police working on the case.
Natalee's family is in such distress and grief Sylvia would in no way add to that by offering to help when the family does not ask or want a psychic's help.
We have added Natalee's family to our prayer list in hopes that they find closure to this horific situation they are in.
Blessings,
Vera

[jac723]

da wench wrote:

I don't know about anyone else, but I think a mother's intuition is right on. Beth Twitty has met these people in person and if she thinks they are lying, I think they are lying

It will be very intersting, if the information is released, what was talked about at the home:

A.  If NH was there at 3am-Did Mrs VDS see her-how did she look-how was she acting--this can end many speculations of NH(drinking/drugs)
B.  To find out what time she left
C. Who was all at the house
D. When left-how did she get back

But god--when I was 17 and it was a school night-my curfew was 10pm--I was in trouble with my parents and questioned when I was 21 why I would be coming home at 4-5am--after a night of dancing with the girls.  I am 28 and married and my mom STILL ?'s me on things I do--

[tuberide]

She can't be in Nigeria or anywhere else. She left her passport in her room.

dont be so naive...there are ways around almost everything in life

[heavyheart]

Wasn`t there a rumour in the beginning that ; When the boys supposedly brought natalee to the HI they said; ' Natalee didn`t want any help with walking to the hotel b/c she could manage on her own'?


What if the story is true that they went to the beach and natalee had enough of the guys or joran she said; ' leave me alone' I don`t want to come with you anymore? And then joran or the brothers finally leave her alone? And then something happens to her afterwards?

That story would be fine if the boys weren't lying from the beginning.  They lied because they fear the truth.

[mitzid66]

Regarding X:

Does anyone remember the Andrew Luster story?  The Max Factor Heir?  He was using liquid x on the girls he picked up.  He did offer one water.  Maybe it was in the water.  When they found the videos he made of women he drugged, they appeared "dead" or "comatose" while he took advantage.  

Maybe what Dash observed was the later effects of this after the "hyper" portion subsides.  

And the polygraph should not  involve cream and electrodes.  Maybe we could all hope for electroshock therapy of some sort.  

Just my thoughts...

Thanks

[da wench]

She can't be in Nigeria or anywhere else. She left her passport in her room.

dont be so naive...there are ways around almost everything in life

This is true, but they sure as hell would NOT have her check in under her own name....DUH!!

[KerinTX]

this is so difficult to keep up with! you guys just started a new forum 3 seconds ago and you already have this many pages??

[la_cavalière]

thats why i get so involved when i hear someone is missing... chad was missing for like a week. and it was hell to get info when i was in aruba...he was found under 20 bags of concrete....

Not much of a vacation for you...How horrible!

if im asked to help, i ll help.. i will be in aruba jun25 and if they ask for help i will help.. i just dont want to get in anybodys way...

Rob, will you be able to report to us from Aruba on your observations? You could use the Cyberzone internet café...

[rogers]

She can't be in Nigeria or anywhere else. She left her passport in her room.

dont be so naive...there are ways around almost everything in life

While that is true, they usually take time.

[cancon]

yeah I guess volunteering to go to Aruba is tough for those cable hosts, though Greta is clearly not a sun person, the list for Baghdad looks empty though.....

if martin doesn't write for onion or scrabbleface he should, LOL

the plot does thicken, my own new theory is that either the Kalpoes in fact dropped N & J at his bachelor pad in the first place or they were telling the truth that they dropped them off at the Marriott and somehow N & J end up at the bachelor pad

but then where does Croes come in, disposal of the body later, or could it be as simple as Joran called Croes and says if anyone asks, because maybe Croes was at the C & C that night, we dropped that American chick off at the Holiday Inn and then he got the Kalpoes on side to lie for him too

maybe he said to the Kalpoes, I didn't kill that girl but I'll get blamed for it or worse he said we'll all get blamed for it or ooh, what if he said, if you don't lie for me, I'll say you guys did it, and look, when the brothers changed their story implicating Joran didn't Joran change his story implicating the Kalpoes???????

hmmmm

on riehl world they are reporting that Joran is being interrogated non stop today, gotta be careful though, confessions have been thrown out in cases where people have been interrogated for several hours without a break.....

[tuberide]

She can't be in Nigeria or anywhere else. She left her passport in her room.

dont be so naive...there are ways around almost everything in life

This is true, but they sure as hell would NOT have her check in under her own name....DUH!!

not saying it was plausible, ..only possible

[CaliGirl]

Also just reported on CNN.  The US has sent 2 behavioral specialists that will sit in on interrigations of the subjects.

:::falls down from loft:::

  Interesting. I was just making a comment today about something along that line but actually an FBI Profiler.

I would love to hear what an FBI profiler would have to say in this case after being able to review things.

(Things that make you go hummm)

[AzRose]

Okay, monkeys, don't laugh.  Some of you remember that a couple of days ago I posted that I was contacting Sylvia Browne.  This is the response I got today:

Thank you for your email and compassion towards the situation with Natalee. Sylvia adheres to psychic etiquette which means, she does not offer psychic information to families of missing/murder cases unless she is asked by the immediate family or police working on the case.
Natalee's family is in such distress and grief Sylvia would in no way add to that by offering to help when the family does not ask or want a psychic's help.
We have added Natalee's family to our prayer list in hopes that they find closure to this horific situation they are in.
Blessings,
Vera

Not laughing here, as I remember when you posted your intent to contact her.  Thanks for sharing the response with us.

[KerinTX]

hmmmm

[tuberide]

its starting to bother me how rehearsed micky johns tv interview seemed---the way he was going over what he "heard" while in his cell near one of the Kalpoes.  looked like he was reading a teleprompter in his mind or something.  i would like to see all details known regarding their employment/possibly new guards that replaced them at the Allegro resort/ and also their alibis


anyone?

[HannieC]

That story would be fine if the boys weren't lying from the beginning. They lied because they fear the truth

Just my point ,if they hear suddenly that she is missing that explaines why they lied because they were afraid that they would be blamed then.

[CaliGirl]

this is so difficult to keep up with! you guys just started a new forum 3 seconds ago and you already have this many pages??

Wow Kerin what a purty eye you have! lol

[luna]

if ms twitty is correct and natalee was at jvds house, then that narrows the time line to only 2 hours when natalee was unaccounted for....

When did Beth HT say Nat was at JvdS' house?