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« Reply #1000 on: June 22, 2005, 12:04:57 AM »

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It was sent to Betty, WW has recieved it though unspecified means and fwds.


Are you WonderWoman's spoke person?


Not tonight cause I would have said "anything to do with the investigation can't be commented on." I never said that.


Lol.  Nice.  bwwwahahahahhahahaha.  No comment.........
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« Reply #1001 on: June 22, 2005, 12:05:09 AM »

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That was a great joke!  

Interesting comment someone just made about the editor of El Diario.  He had a very different attitude tonight than he had last night.  Last night he seem neutral and objective.  Tonight he was eager to keep the attention on JVDS.  Maybe it's just about selling papers and being on TV.


The Mansur is equivalent to the Kennedys...they made their fortune on cigarettes not booze tho.
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« Reply #1002 on: June 22, 2005, 12:05:39 AM »

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I think the email is legit, if it is real.


Say what??? Don't tell me -- you must be a politician.   Laughing  Laughing  Laughing[/quote]


LMFAO  THANK YOU!!!!  LOL  Laughing
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« Reply #1003 on: June 22, 2005, 12:05:39 AM »

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I did too NIKKI, very weird to have insight into someone we've only "heard "about!


WonderWoman, please respond to my question regarding the emails from Deepak.
Your continued ignorance only decreases your credibility.


She has posted the whole letter what more do you want her to do, without her getting in trouble.
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« Reply #1004 on: June 22, 2005, 12:05:59 AM »

Oh, I think we are all a little different IRL than our business/work personalities.  BUT if I were a police officer/judge/rep of the court etc.  I would make sure that I (and my family) followed the laws of our (small) nation.  It would be important for my credibility at work, no?

Some of my WILDEST friends are teachers. Do my police friends go around breaking the law in their off-time? DEFINITELY NOT.

That's all I am saying.....
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« Reply #1005 on: June 22, 2005, 12:06:27 AM »

Did anybody else catch Dan Riehl's critique of Greta's blog about the coverage from Aruba?

Damn! Pretty harsh interpretation, but an interpretation that fits my instincts about a high-profile MSM figure.

Apparently, he is not impressed at all about her show tonight.

http://www.riehlworldview.com/
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« Reply #1006 on: June 22, 2005, 12:06:27 AM »

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We will never be able to put the puzzle pieces together if they keep changing the picture on the box


I think it is reasonable to assume that that is the intention.
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« Reply #1007 on: June 22, 2005, 12:06:36 AM »

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I did too NIKKI, very weird to have insight into someone we've only "heard "about!


WonderWoman, please respond to my question regarding the emails from Deepak.
Your continued ignorance only decreases your credibility.


She doesn't have to respond to you, Perforator. And her credibility isn't in question.
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« Reply #1008 on: June 22, 2005, 12:06:57 AM »

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I did too NIKKI, very weird to have insight into someone we've only "heard "about!


WonderWoman, please respond to my question regarding the emails from Deepak.
Your continued ignorance only decreases your credibility.



Who is ignorant?  I will not respond to your hostility, that is CERTAIN!
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« Reply #1009 on: June 22, 2005, 12:07:16 AM »

On Greta's show, they were talking about how Joran was talking about it in school... but I'm foggy about what story he was telling. Anybody catch that part?
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« Reply #1010 on: June 22, 2005, 12:07:20 AM »

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All I care about at this moment homestly, is I truly believe that was probabaly the most beautiful moment I have ever seen on TV....I have always said there are many victims and have had feelings for all involved...As far as someone saying Anita did a fake or staged kiss, it is or at least I was raised in the dutch culture with giving a respectful kiss on  the cheek. That was the ULTIMATE show of respect to Beth on Anita's part.

Cali, this has me weeping.  Don't get FOX, the web video didn't show the kiss part.  I too have been saying all along that all the parents are victims.


You captured it beautifully. I think these are ALL loving parents in a heart breaking situation.  They have both lost their children.  No matter what the reason that has to be the most devastating thing to happen to a parent.

I got chills when the met at the gate.

It's too damn bad warring countries can't do the same.


I found it strange that the Joran's parents agreed to an interview.  I do not think its a PR thing, but just a folksy, small town mentality saying sure why not.  I saw that piece and you know what I ve been thinking?  Im about to do a 180 turn, from believing that the Joran and Kalpoes did it to some other explanation.  The main reason is that so far no clear cut confession.  Long interrogation by police, visiting judge, and maybe under supervision of DEA and FBI.  I also saw where Jossy Mansur seem too eager to have this blow over and point the fingers to these suspect.  Earlier post I read that the Mansur family is not all that clean and squeeky.  I m sure the FBI knows the story.


I've asked this before and didn't rec'd an answer. Here is the FBI's "What we investigate" site: http://www.fbi.gov/hq.htm

Can anyone tell me what on this list applies to this case because I'm not seeing what is could be?
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« Reply #1011 on: June 22, 2005, 12:07:23 AM »

FYI...in an interview....That Aruba editor (the american one)...Aruba live???  not sure..anyways...she said that the cameras at the HI drive entrance do not work...while she was saying this, they interrupted her...

Also, I am confused about them meeting (Joran and Natalee) in the Casino...wasn't it said that they met THAT NIGHT by the friends tonight??  I thought natalee's mom said that she saw video from the casino and that they had met a couple days before...I might be confused...who knows

Who had said that they had met a couple days before in the casino?
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« Reply #1012 on: June 22, 2005, 12:07:56 AM »

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Isn't it wierd that Papa VDS doesn't care that his 17 year old frequents the casinos?  Doesn't the law say you must be 18?  Isn't he supposed to uphold the laws of his country?????


Why does it matter? I haven't seen any info that indicates it was an everyday happening, anyway.

Just like even if Natalee was drunk and taking drugs by choice and picking up guys it doesn't make murder right.

I'm glad some of this information is coming out, I have been sceptical about all the demonization of Joran and bros, I live in a tacky tourist town and local guys who just want to get laid have no problem picking up hot tourist women, they don't have to kidnapp and force them.


I guess Americans never break the law????


Agreed wholly.

I would hate to see what people wonder about me?  Laughing

All I know is since day one, I watched people pick apart (literally parts) Jorans life etc. Who are we to judge him and his parents. We have enough problems in our country with our own children.

People sat around labeling him because of his clothes, pictures, that unbelievable story that he was a drug pusher or pimp because he was holding money up with a goofy smile (it was only 70 bucks by the way).

I can speak ont he differences of our culture and other counties as well as some other Dtuch posters here. We are different.

I can speak to the truth that if you saw me in my work clothes, you would find me to be an innocently angelic career minded looking woman. But if you saw me in my off hours, all most people would do is label me "white trash" "wild girl" "insert any comment you like" because I have tattoos and piercings and I dress in midruff shirts and jeans and on and on and on.

Can not judge a book by it's cover. I am living proof and I always try to open peoples mind to not pass judgement until you know them, have met them or have all the facts about them.



And, geez, have most of us forgotten our high school graduation week?  I haven't forgotten mine.  It was pretty much a week-long party.  Cool
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« Reply #1013 on: June 22, 2005, 12:08:01 AM »

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maybe daddy can't really remember if he woke Joran up for school or if he went to school?...
Can't remember because he is protecting his son.


Or maybe because daddy tends to be the more lenient one, and maybe because daddy had a nightcap or two more than he usually would, since Anita was out of town...



...and he had, after all, just arrived from a long transatlantic flight.  I've made the route from Amstrdam to Atlanta and it takes at least 36 hours to remember who I am, drinks or none.


I thought it was established that Anita was the one in Holland, not Paul.
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« Reply #1014 on: June 22, 2005, 12:08:03 AM »

:::waving arms::::

and Nikki...I am here. I am just on the phone with my husband, (the owner of a wholesale internet company BTW), to give him some of the strange claims made on here regarding what can and cannot be traced. He is out of town (as usual) so it is taking awhile to explain since he has no idea my life has been 100% consumed by this story.  Very Happy
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« Reply #1015 on: June 22, 2005, 12:08:21 AM »

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 I think the email is legit, if it is real.
 This is a little too ambiguous for me to wrap my mind around!   Question  Smile
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« Reply #1016 on: June 22, 2005, 12:08:36 AM »

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I did too NIKKI, very weird to have insight into someone we've only "heard "about!


WonderWoman, please respond to my question regarding the emails from Deepak.
Your continued ignorance only decreases your credibility.



Who is ignorant?  I will not respond to your hostility, that is CERTAIN!

If you cannot post the headers from your email then the credibility of your supposed email is just heresay!
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« Reply #1017 on: June 22, 2005, 12:08:59 AM »

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I did too NIKKI, very weird to have insight into someone we've only "heard "about!


WonderWoman, please respond to my question regarding the emails from Deepak.
Your continued ignorance only decreases your credibility.


She doesn't have to respond to you, Perforator. And her credibility isn't in question.


You're right. I believe she's credible.  The letter, however, may not be. And even if it is, again, it's the word of a person being held for suspicion of murder -- a word that has changed rapidly over time.  Finally, it doesn't address any of the things that make the boys suspicious (the stuff we know OR whatever information has convinced a judge to bind them over).
I call shenanigans - not on WW, but on Deepak's reputation for veracity.
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« Reply #1018 on: June 22, 2005, 12:09:25 AM »

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All I care about at this moment homestly, is I truly believe that was probabaly the most beautiful moment I have ever seen on TV....I have always said there are many victims and have had feelings for all involved...As far as someone saying Anita did a fake or staged kiss, it is or at least I was raised in the dutch culture with giving a respectful kiss on  the cheek. That was the ULTIMATE show of respect to Beth on Anita's part.

Cali, this has me weeping.  Don't get FOX, the web video didn't show the kiss part.  I too have been saying all along that all the parents are victims.


You captured it beautifully. I think these are ALL loving parents in a heart breaking situation.  They have both lost their children.  No matter what the reason that has to be the most devastating thing to happen to a parent.

I got chills when the met at the gate.

It's too damn bad warring countries can't do the same.


I found it strange that the Joran's parents agreed to an interview.  I do not think its a PR thing, but just a folksy, small town mentality saying sure why not.  I saw that piece and you know what I ve been thinking?  Im about to do a 180 turn, from believing that the Joran and Kalpoes did it to some other explanation.  The main reason is that so far no clear cut confession.  Long interrogation by police, visiting judge, and maybe under supervision of DEA and FBI.  I also saw where Jossy Mansur seem too eager to have this blow over and point the fingers to these suspect.  Earlier post I read that the Mansur family is not all that clean and squeeky.  I m sure the FBI knows the story.


I've asked this before and didn't rec'd an answer. Here is the FBI's "What we investigate" site: http://www.fbi.gov/hq.htm

Can anyone tell me what on this list applies to this case because I'm not seeing what is could be?


Kidnap????
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« Reply #1019 on: June 22, 2005, 12:09:39 AM »

Hey ya'll...let's keep in mind that too much information is a dangerous thing. You never know...so just be careful what you write.
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