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« Reply #1280 on: June 22, 2005, 01:46:27 AM »

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How are you i hope you and your family is fine.(NAME DELETED) is better i tell you the truth , before it will be a shock for you later, but i think it will be a shock for you rightnow.
The missing girl natalee hollaway,I spoke to her , sunday she left with me , my brother and a friend from carlos n' charlies , it was my car like the news said she got in to, I am one of the persons of intrest , i am one the the students they've questioned and released as they claimed in the news .
Let see where to start i don't even know where to begin these last days where so crazy for me i'm very tired haven't slept good in days : The story starts sunday night when a friend of mine was playing poker at a local casino (in the holiday inn) after he won the poker at the fourth place he decided to get up and play some blackjack so he went to the blackjack table and there was natalee (they were a lil drunk ) so my friend started playing blackjack and he was winning quite good , so then natalee approached him and introduced herself and said to him'' your a lucky guy , can you help me win some of my money back i lost $ 360 , of my fathers money'' so my friend said ok , why not . so he started playing and he won 100 $ for her back and he said hey thats the best i can do for you because i doubt it i can win more money for you so its better i quit so she said ok but at least let me buy you a drink so they went to the bar (in the casino ). so they took a drink and started talking etc. about school, the vacation etc.etc.afterwards my friend had to go and she said that ''today is my last day i will be in carlos n' charlies will you be there'' and my friend said well i have school tomorrow i don't think so . well she begged him and he still said yes i'll be there.So that was in the casino i was not present , i was at work so my friend called me and said hey i met some girls in the casino and her friends and they want us to meet them in carlos tonight do you have to work tomorrow morning i said no , so he said pick me up later then i said ok. so i got off my shift at 10 pm and went home took a bath had to fix something and then me and my younger brother went to pick up my friend was around 12.10 am so i came to his home and was talked for like 15 min and then left to go to carlos (we all went out without or parents knew) so we arrived like 12.30 am in carlos (carlos is closing 1 pm ) and headed straight for the bar and bought 3 drinks my friend paid for them, so besides the bar there is a stage and people were dancing and there was natalee dancing too (thats the first time i saw her )and she was calling my friend to get on the stage and dance with her  my friend laughed and refused so after the song was finished she came up to my friend and asked why he won't dance with her , i only heared that part because i was talking to someone else so i don't know what he responded(by then natalee was VERY drunk)so as i said i was talking to someone when i turned i had lost my brother , natalee and my friend. well they were announced that they were closing soon so i thought well maybe they' re waiting for me by the car its better i go there so i went to my car and nobody was there so i started playing music and was waiting on my brother and my friend.i waited for like 10 min and then i saw my brother stepping in the car and my friend who was with natalee. so i was surprised but anyways i started the engine and my brother was besides me and my friend and natalee were in the backseet so i started cruising in the area and asked my friend whats going on so natalee responded to me ''hey its no prob let us just drive around and have fun its my last night , she said you can drop me off later at holiday inn anyways right'' i said sure why not so as i was drove out of the carlos road and got on the mainroad there were natalees friends and she , pushed het head out of the window and screamed something i can't recall.so i was driving very slow to make a left to get in the next road and then one of natalees friend screamed for her to get out of the car , and she refused so then i stopped my car and i said natalee if your friends want you to go with them its better you go listen to them and go with them , she said no i will stay with you guys i will get a lift from you anways later, so she said bye to her friends and i drove away, so then we were just talking etc, in the car and then she said she wanted to see sharks ,it was by the lighthouse she saw them before that can we go , my friend said ok ,deepak lets go. so on my my to the lighthouse there was music playing and noone talking for a while when i looked in the backmirror my friend and natalee were kissing and touching (his hands etc was in her blouse but nothing nude or against natalees will ) so my brother siad just leave them for a while untill we get to the lighthouse, when i arrived at the lighthouse i said well here is the lighthouse they did not pay attention to me , so my brother said lets return (i did not stop anywhere not for a min only trafficlights) so after like 10 min my friend is telling me that natalee fell asleep i said you kidding just wake her up and tell ask her if its holiday inn for sure she is staying so my friend woke her up and confirmed with natalee she was staying at the holiday inn, so i drove to the lobby driveway of holiday inn and then we woke her up, she got out of the car and fell on the floor my friend said damn she fell and then rushed out of the same door natalee came out and picked her up immediately, after she stood up she pushed my friend and said leave me alone or something like that i can't recall , my friend offered to help het to her room she said no. she he stepped in the car and while i was driving away i saw natalee walking towards the lobby and a gentleman with a walkie talkie and black clothes approached her and i think they were talking and i had never seen natalee again sinds.(holiday inn has no cameras in the driveway or lobby) it was around 2.15 am .monday i came to work normally 4- 11 pm after work i called my friend i said whats up he said ok i'm at the raddison casino meet me there , i said ok  so i went there we played poker , we had some drinks and chat and then we had enough and decided that this casino was booring lets go to whyndham hotel casino . so i drove to whyndham and as i was parking my friends dad called him and said the police is at his home with some family members its about the girl you guys went out with yesterday , so my friend said wait there i be there, so we rushed at my friends home and there was the police and nataless family and it was a nightmare sinds then. the police asked us if we knew this girl showed us a picture we said yes thats her , they said she was missing and eyewitness say she was the last seen with you guys . so they asked a few more questions and we said we don't understand we left her at holiday inn lobby drive way how could she dissapear and then natalees stepfather jumped and said ''yes thats because after she went with you assholes she lost'' and then my friends father jumped and said thats enough you can't talk to the kids like that this is not the us your out of you juristiction this is not the way i want you people out of my yard i know the law (my friends father is e judge) so afterwards another family member of natalee suggested to the police if we can id the security gard we said ok. we went there there was no suck security working there as we discribed. so then we were just standing in the lobby there were questions etc. asked by other members , and then me and my friend walked to the car natalees mom was sitting and we said mam you have to believe us we did not do anything with you daughter, she was crying and said i don't believe you 2 , i promise you i will make you life a living hell because of this . anwyas we said we were sorry again ans that we will help in any way possible.i went home 7 pm tuesday, i was then called 2 pm by the police for questioning i went gave a statement they said i was a witness no suspect the same went for my brother and my friend they were questionded and had to sign their statement also , the checked my car and i was clear to go , wednesday i was called again to show them how i drove the route that day ( i could refuse was my right i still decided to go , as did my brother and friend ) the drove us one by one and then we were free to go again.thursday morning my friend called me (he goes to aruba international school and his mother is a teacher there and he is a straight A student ) in panic and said there a re family members here at school and they are sharing flyers and the flyers said : GIRL KIDNAPPED ASK JORAN VANDER SLOOT (thats my friends name ) the principle asked them to leave and they did .so thats my part of the story yesterday and today it was quiet no treathen phoncalls what we got before and i won't mention the crazythings the newspapers etc. writes about us its to much to mention. at home my mom is losing it she is cryimg constantly , my dad bloodpressure got high also his hands are red , my friends home is a disaster also ,his mom is crying constantly also his dad is pretty cool he calmes us down and talks to us also not to worry , my brother is preety cool but on his face you see he is worried , my friend is pretty worried also. i'm pretty worried also , we have 2 lawyers one for my friend and one for me in case we get arrested and charched with something his dad can't defend hin he is a judge and he is too emotional attached .my friend has his graduation this thursday he has to go to the states in july he has a full scholarship. i had to go to vacation also end of this month.many politicians find we should be locked up rightnow.We heard a lot of false alarms that she was dead , she was seen with 2 guys , her hair is cut and is red now ,she was in a crackhouse etc, we were arrested and , my car is by the police we confessed to murder and rape, she went in a restaurant to buy food but none of those were true.So (name deleted) that was my part of the story what i said here is the same in my statement,people are saying they are bad guys lock them up , the family is going thru a lot righnow , but what they don't know how the other families feel and how they also have a reputation and carreers etc. because when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had something to do with the kidnap of natalee its a small island.they don't understand the pressure we are having also, if this girl turns up dead we have a problem we were the last seen with her . I lost a lot of friends who think we had to do something with this, many of my friends supported us also brought food etc. for us at home and know we are innocent, we are innocent also we promise i would NEVER hurt anyone in anyway, i would do every everything to help find her thats what we told eveyone also , i would take a bullet to save her and bring her back to her family if i had to so would my friend also.i would never never hurt anyone i'm a very happy and social person who likes to make friends with people and not hurting them
 
 
So (NAME DELETED) i will say goodbye now hope you believe me and i pray to god that they find natalee soon and find her well so that this nightmare ends  for all of us and they we prove we had nothing to do with this, i hope you pray for all of us say hi to everyone there hope to hear from you soon and may god bless.........
 
bye bye
 
Deepak.


Is there a reason to post this again and again?


Only so I could find it...thanks again Nancy_Drew...sychophantic bow...LOL
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« Reply #1281 on: June 22, 2005, 01:46:40 AM »

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ok all, this has been a long day of following post and I am ready for bed.  2 items bothered me from all we got today.  One was in the e-mail about a student asking Nat to get out of the car.  I realize we need to take the e-mail with some doubt, however, that part doesn't sound like it was made up.  If true, why would not those students say something at the airport when she didn't show.

2nd.. I saw a tv report this morning with Nats uncle and a pilot that flew in to help.  The reporter or someone in the interview group asked the uncle about the rumor that Nat had run away before when visiting another island.  I had heard reports of this before but dismissed it.  Why didn't the uncle just flat out deny it.  He merely suggested that there were a lot of rumors going around.

these are just curiosity items as I viewed the happening of the day.  Maybe not significant.


Do you have a link to #2?  Sounds interesting.....
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« Reply #1282 on: June 22, 2005, 01:46:48 AM »

From the 'email':
i am one the the students they've questioned and released as they claimed in the news .
Was Deepak a student?  He's 21 from what we have heard reported. He works at the CyberCafe. Student where?
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« Reply #1283 on: June 22, 2005, 01:47:20 AM »

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Well, if Natalee perchance had a misfortune befall her, she did not hide her own body.



you do not know that....
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« Reply #1284 on: June 22, 2005, 01:47:26 AM »

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8am-10pm Sleep, breakfast?

10am-2pm .Happy Hour Snorkel Sail with depalm Tours the Afternoon of.  
Take in all the pleasures of the sea by enjoying a half-day sail and snorkel experience on Aruba's newest catamaran. Lulled by the rhythm of the sea, lie on the spacious sun deck or enjoy a cocktail under the shaded cabin top. When you are ready to experience the beauty of the sea below the waterline let our friendly crew assist you as you prepare for your snorkeling adventure. Snorkeling stops include the coral-laden Antilla wreck, fish-friendly Boca Catalina and the unique Arashi reef. During your snorkel experience indulge in a delicious lunch prepared by top island chefs or sample a cool tropical drink or beer from the open bar.

7pm-11pm MUSIC CONCERT
Havana Beach Club Amphitheatre (outdoor on the beach) 7-11:00 p.m.
Lauryn Hill
Boyz II Men
Hosted by Doug E. Fresh

11.30pm-?? Carlos and Charlie who .  Approx 40 MB student were there..

12pm: Joran arrives with Kalpoes?

If I leave here tomorrow
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For I must be travelling on now
there's too many places I gotta see


Casino at HI goes in there somewhere. Blackjack table and rumor of 20 minutes at an ATM machine.[/quote

Wasn't the atm rumour posted on this board yesterday ?


It hasn't been confirmed anyywhere thats for sure. Dunno its original location. But sometime between the snorkelling and concert they were in the casino.
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« Reply #1285 on: June 22, 2005, 01:47:41 AM »

Also we don't know what time the casino mtg took place. The email begins with Sunday night but then other entries make it seem as if it occured earlier SUnday like late afternoon or early evening. No times just the gist of it. Pluse we don't know when she went to concert or how long she stayed. just an observation.
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« Reply #1286 on: June 22, 2005, 01:48:02 AM »

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trust me Dateline and others ,at times, def. pay......you think that was the first time 60 minutes paid or the first time it was called to attention??? also, i work in the industry


I hope you're not saying you work for news and pay for interviews, because you might be on the unemployment line pretty soon. it's a total breech of news ethics and eventually you will be found out. you're doing it under the table then. Because I know your bosses aren't approving it.


no worries here, i freelance in the technical side of it and when you're sitting around hurrying up to wait for many hours and days sometimes, you get to know how things are working if you know what i mean.  besides, dont be naive, you realize that you shouldnt believe everything you see or read - no matter what logo is plastered all over it, right?
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« Reply #1287 on: June 22, 2005, 01:48:13 AM »

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Thank you for deconstructing that, good squad.

Makes rational sense. I believe the email to be a hoax, or a huge lie.

One more observation, if you were one of the last to be seen with a girl that has mysteriously disappear and were brought in for questioning and had your car impounded and checked...would you be emailing your account to a friend in the US? ...even if you were innocent.

For one to go into so much detail, it would have to be a pretty good friend. You call good friends...especially if you're just hanging around and afraid to go outside.

Just MHO.

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Folks, we have to keep our eyes on the ball!

This message board shows exactly why BHT would have discouraged people on the trip from discussing details with the media.  The discussion is now sidetracked over inconsistencies that are IRRELEVANT and shed no light on the investigation.  

All this clucking over Natalee approaching Joran... "Whoa, that's not the virgin we know!  I thought Joran was the predator.  She's pretty loose."
Irrelevant - and, potentially harmful, since there's this ugly subtext that, no matter how much people may deny it on the surface, that Natalee's aggression lowers the probability that she was a victim.

And the revelation that they met on 5/29... "Whoa, we've got people who supposedly KNOW her saying they met earlier!  This changes everything!"  This changes nothing.  It's a minor detail, with the inaccurate inforamtion provided by people who we know did not have constant contact with Natalee 24/7.  

And the harping over the actions of Natlee's "best" friends... "How could they lose track of her, especially if she's drunk."  This is a moral judgment, unrelated to the main issue.  Greta might have decided to take it easy on them.  Obviously, a mistake was made, and I'd bet that one of the hardest things these friends will have to deal with for the rest of their lives is the guilty feeling that will persist over this.

The main questions here are:

1) How do the current detainees account for their whereabouts and actions, and those of Natalee, on the night she was last seen?

2) How trustworthy are the detainees in their accounts?

And with Deepak's 5/29 e-mail (thanks WW), we have, among some other details, what has largely been out in the open already as the first reported alibi.  But again, we're getting sidetracked... "Whoa, there are details in here that we now know are true!  About stuff that we didn't have correct before!"  It's simple: partial accuracy = partial inaccuracy, with the e-mail, or with any other version of events.  Partial inaccuracy suggests LIES.

As I mentioned before, from the e-mail, Joran has placed himself and Natalee at the hotel at a fixed time of the evening - at which point the concert is simultaneously ongoing.  Forget about the fact that Natalee actually met Joran at a blackjack table.  If Natalee can be placed at the concert during the "blackjack time" defined by the e-mail, then this part of the story is a LIE.

According to the e-mail, Joran and the Kalpoes reached C&C's at approx. 12:30.  Based on the story told, Deepak bought drinks, had a conversation, and left before the bar closed, which has him staying for less than 30 minutes.  The C&C official statement suggests an 11:30PM arrival time for the people on the trip.  One friend in tonight;s GVS interview stated she was gone one hour prior to closing.   If you believe her friend, then this part of the e-mail story is a LIE.

According to Mr. VDS as stated by Greta tonight, he picked up Joran at McDonalds at 11:00PM.  Based on the e-mail, there has to be a logical way that Joran was at the casino, talked to Natalee, called his friends, and went to McDonald's.  If not, then Joran, Paulus, and/or Deepak are LYING.

According to the e-mail, there's, at most, a 75 minute window to complete all of the events in the drive.  If it started before 1:00 AM, that cuts down the already short time in the bar further.  If it started after 1:00 AM, the window for the drive shrinks.  If either one does not make logical sense, then it's a LIE.

According to Ms. VDS as stated by Greta tonight, Joran told his mother that he left Natalee on the beach.  (N.B.:  No statement that Natalee was asleep, as stated in the MSNBC story yesterday).  Ms. VDS has also said (can't remember if it was this interview or in a wire article) that guards prevent her from discussing the case with Joran during her visits to the prison.  Therefore, Joran said this to his mother at some point prior to his detention.  Meanwhile, the e-mail says that Joran and the Kalpoes dropped off Natalee at the HI.  Not only is this a clear instance of a LIE by Joran and/or Deepak concerning the last moment Natalee was seen, it occurred prior to their detention, with its prolonged periods of intense interrogation.

According to the e-mail, at the last moment he saw Natalee, Deepak saw a black-shirted man with a walkie-talkie speak to Natalee.  There is no evidence of this man, who was standing in front of the lobby, or this conversation.  This portion of the e-mail, the "bottom" of the alibi, so to speak, is UNPROVEN.

Even just considering the stuff for which we have direct sources, I believe the detainees' stories contain too many holes.  The alibi is not conclusive, and there's at least one clear instance of the detainees lying.  Add in the the MSM repeatedly reporting multiple instances of changed stories from the detainees, and it seems like the guys are in prison for a good reason, and that they're hiding something.

For me, the fact that Deepak's e-mail matches up to some of the events demonstrates a clever, devious mind, and makes the idea of a long interrogation with slow results seem more plausible.  

Finally, if you want to allow for the possibility of being witnesses to a pure accident as a mitigating factor, keep in mind that its cover-up represents a clear choice of causing Natalee's family torment that, if a body is never found, will be neverending.  In my opinion, this represents unspeakable cruelty.


Both of you have written some outstanding recaps and posts. Excellent example of how we should be intelligently processing information.  I hope you both will continue.  Cheers!
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« Reply #1288 on: June 22, 2005, 01:48:16 AM »

Note that the Holiday Inn in Aruba is on the beach - I know that in Jamaica, folks will say they met someone "on the beach" in Negril for example when they mean "I met them at Merrills resort" or whatever. Since we don't have complete statements from anyone - just leaked comments via media or AVDS statement to Greta of what Joran told her it is possible that Joran said I left her at the beach, at the HI or something similar.

just trying to stay aware of how little we actually know and how words can get messy
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« Reply #1289 on: June 22, 2005, 01:48:49 AM »

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Quote from: "Itawamba"
Well, if Natalee perchance had a misfortune befall her, she did not hide her own body.



you do not know that....


If she found misfortune she couldn't have hid her own body.
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« Reply #1290 on: June 22, 2005, 01:48:58 AM »

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8am-10pm Sleep, breakfast?

10am-2pm .Happy Hour Snorkel Sail with depalm Tours the Afternoon of.  
Take in all the pleasures of the sea by enjoying a half-day sail and snorkel experience on Aruba's newest catamaran. Lulled by the rhythm of the sea, lie on the spacious sun deck or enjoy a cocktail under the shaded cabin top. When you are ready to experience the beauty of the sea below the waterline let our friendly crew assist you as you prepare for your snorkeling adventure. Snorkeling stops include the coral-laden Antilla wreck, fish-friendly Boca Catalina and the unique Arashi reef. During your snorkel experience indulge in a delicious lunch prepared by top island chefs or sample a cool tropical drink or beer from the open bar.

7pm-11pm MUSIC CONCERT
Havana Beach Club Amphitheatre (outdoor on the beach) 7-11:00 p.m.
Lauryn Hill
Boyz II Men
Hosted by Doug E. Fresh

11.30pm-?? Carlos and Charlie who .  Approx 40 MB student were there..

12pm: Joran arrives with Kalpoes?

If I leave here tomorrow
would you still remember me
For I must be travelling on now
there's too many places I gotta see


do you know if she went to concert at beginning and stayed until end or if casino mtg was before the concert. Seems like she would have mentioned concert to Joran if she met him before then, huh?


Im not sure I got this general info from someone on the board, I just verified the actual hours of the event....plus Nat not sure how Nat ask Joran out, maybe it was a last minute thing to go to the concert...not sure if MB student like reggea festivals..so they could have left early... I do not know, I am just spinning in my plausible timeline.  Now here is where it gets interesting...rumors have it that the security guard in this festival wore uniforms described by Deepak...now you may say why the story change, will interogation methods can be long and confusing...perhaps he changed his story to get it over with?  I just hope that justice is not another victim.
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« Reply #1291 on: June 22, 2005, 01:50:08 AM »

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From the 'email':
i am one the the students they've questioned and released as they claimed in the news .
Was Deepak a student?  He's 21 from what we have heard reported. He works at the CyberCafe. Student where?


It has been said that he attended night school.
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« Reply #1292 on: June 22, 2005, 01:50:25 AM »

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Casino at HI goes in there somewhere. Blackjack table and rumor of 20 minutes at an ATM machine.[/quote

Wasn't the atm rumour posted on this board yesterday ?


You have to add the blackjack table, but the ATM seems ridiculous.  First of all, think about it, TWENTY MINUTES??  Obviously, that could be exaggerated, but Beth Twitty also stated she found Natalee's extra money packed in her bag in her room (yes, it's *possible* that's not true), which wouldn't make sense for someone desperate for cash.
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« Reply #1293 on: June 22, 2005, 01:50:48 AM »

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Note that the Holiday Inn in Aruba is on the beach - I know that in Jamaica, folks will say they met someone "on the beach" in Negril for example when they mean "I met them at Merrills resort" or whatever. Since we don't have complete statements from anyone - just leaked comments via media or AVDS statement to Greta of what Joran told her it is possible that Joran said I left her at the beach, at the HI or something similar.

just trying to stay aware of how little we actually know and how words can get messy


Good post, symantics always interupt a good story Smile
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« Reply #1294 on: June 22, 2005, 01:51:13 AM »

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Quote from: "Itawamba"
Well, if Natalee perchance had a misfortune befall her, she did not hide her own body.



you do not know that....


It's a pretty safe assumption that if incapacitated or dead, she wasn't able to cover it up herself.  That's what I gathered from the post and if that's correct, I agree.
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« Reply #1295 on: June 22, 2005, 01:51:44 AM »

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Well, if Natalee perchance had a misfortune befall her, she did not hide her own body.



you do not know that....


She'd have to be one hell of a hide and seek player!!
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« Reply #1296 on: June 22, 2005, 01:51:59 AM »

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ok all, this has been a long day of following post and I am ready for bed.  2 items bothered me from all we got today.  One was in the e-mail about a student asking Nat to get out of the car.  I realize we need to take the e-mail with some doubt, however, that part doesn't sound like it was made up.  If true, why would not those students say something at the airport when she didn't show.

2nd.. I saw a tv report this morning with Nats uncle and a pilot that flew in to help.  The reporter or someone in the interview group asked the uncle about the rumor that Nat had run away before when visiting another island.  I had heard reports of this before but dismissed it.  Why didn't the uncle just flat out deny it.  He merely suggested that there were a lot of rumors going around.

these are just curiosity items as I viewed the happening of the day.  Maybe not significant.


Do you have a link to #2?  Sounds interesting.....


no link to # 2, but I believe I first heard of it a day or so ago when Arubagirl was listing the things the locals would like to ask Natalie's family.  I may be wrong on that but I do think it was one of our Arubian friends that made the point when we discussed the "poly"

The other was just an interview this morning with the Uncle.  He had some pilot with him who flew in from one of the other islands.  The two were being interviewed I believe on Fox
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« Reply #1297 on: June 22, 2005, 01:52:53 AM »

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Well, if Natalee perchance had a misfortune befall her, she did not hide her own body.



you do not know that....


If she found misfortune she couldn't have hid her own body.



she could if she drowned.....
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« Reply #1298 on: June 22, 2005, 01:52:59 AM »

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Well, if Natalee perchance had a misfortune befall her, she did not hide her own body.


Itawamba...is it OK if I say...."BINGO"???
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« Reply #1299 on: June 22, 2005, 01:54:19 AM »

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Both of you have written some outstanding recaps and posts. Excellent example of how we should be intelligently processing information.  I hope you both will continue.  Cheers!

Thanks nancy  Embarassed

I enjoy your posts too...really make me think twice about my theories.

I'm reading most of the time (desperately trying to catch up lol). I feel compelled to post when I have an insight that I haven't seen mentioned, or to set the record straight.

There is so much good information on this MB, but there is so much to sort through as well.

In the end, I just hope that there's a resolution, for all parties involved.
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