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« Reply #1460 on: June 22, 2005, 03:39:28 AM »

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Natalee's best friend's and roomates made the following statements:

Natalee met Joran the same day she disappeared at the casino where introduced herself. (Not true) (Was first established and backed by her mother that Natalee had met him a couple days prior) (She could not have met him at the casino the same day because she was verified to be at the festival) (The reported scuffle could have not tkaen place then and the kid who did the interview about the scuffle would have to be lying which I doubt)

They stated they left at 12:30 before the club closed. (Already been verified that Natalee was last seen at 1:30 am)

They did not see her with Joran outside of the club. (Already verified because if she wasn't seen outside the club with Joran then Joran was not the last person seen with her)

They made a faux pax and stated they saw her leave in a taxi, then about 30 seconds later you heard, I mean car.

Anyone else wanna add?


I think calling them liars is stretching it.  It's not like they couldn't remember where they dropped someone off.  

I doubt they looked at there watch when they left C&C.  Taxi/car, there hard to tell apart there.  They didn't see Joran?  Maybe they didn't but others did.  Same for when they met.


How can you not remember when she met Joran? These were her best friends... in every picture. She was always with them.

She's been more than once over and over said to be shy. Now she walks up to strangers and introduces herself out the blue?

The scuffle happened between Joran and the friend 2 days with Joran present, before she disppeared.

To my understanding, where the festival was verses the casino, CnC the time of the festival etc etc, conclude, she could not and did not meet him that same night.

I also believe her mother would not put out and keep with a totally opposite story.

If indeed, they got their facts wrong, forgot etc, is quite sad to be honest. They should have not gone on TV then but then again the questions are given in advance, therefore I would think one to be able to know the facts. Not to mention, the greatest fact of all, they are her "best friends" I would think (as I would) remember everything regarding that night because I can't forget it and I wasn't there.


Just a thought but maybe she met Joran at a different time when her friends weren't around at the moment.  This seems to me like the sort of thing that could easily be a mistake and again they have absolutley no reason to lie about it.  

About her being shy, she probably was.  But remember she probably was drinking on this trip (not saying she was falling down drunk all the time or anything) and that could easily make her more sociable.  Regardless people act out of character sometimes.
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« Reply #1461 on: June 22, 2005, 03:39:45 AM »

Apple will do Kerin!! YUM YUM! lol
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« Reply #1462 on: June 22, 2005, 03:40:06 AM »

see THIS is an example of what I hate about news..

Greta:
STAY TUNED FOR THE EXPLOSIVE MEETING/CONFRONTATION (NOT SURE WHICH SHE SAID) BETWEEN MR VDS AND BETH HOLLOWAY.

We have all watched it and it was NOT EXPLOSIVE!!!!
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« Reply #1463 on: June 22, 2005, 03:41:44 AM »

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Natalee's best friend's and roomates made the following statements:

Natalee met Joran the same day she disappeared at the casino where introduced herself. (Not true) (Was first established and backed by her mother that Natalee had met him a couple days prior) (She could not have met him at the casino the same day because she was verified to be at the festival) (The reported scuffle could have not tkaen place then and the kid who did the interview about the scuffle would have to be lying which I doubt)

They stated they left at 12:30 before the club closed. (Already been verified that Natalee was last seen at 1:30 am)

They did not see her with Joran outside of the club. (Already verified because if she wasn't seen outside the club with Joran then Joran was not the last person seen with her)

They made a faux pax and stated they saw her leave in a taxi, then about 30 seconds later you heard, I mean car.

Anyone else wanna add?


Why would they lie about any of that, seems more likely to me that their is just some misinformation.


Well, after tonite, I don't know anything anymore except facts embeded in my brain like an endless filing cabinet.

I would think the people who went to CnC with her would have facts. They stated they stayed with the chaperones etc and helped give information.

Now, I don't know about you but if I am going on national TV to help find my best friend since childhood, I would forget nothing about the last nite I saw, just as I being an active supporters in finding her can not forget every detial, post, information, rumor etc etc

Some of us were just speechless to say the least. In no way is it blaming the victim, but we all complain about not having straight answers from the suspects and in turn we now can't get straight ones broadcast to every TV tuned into FOX.


What she also said...her friend...was that there were many people there...tryijng to get a taxi...it was a swarm of cars and people trying to get a car to transport them...THINK THE ENTRYWAY TO ANY AIRPORT IN AMERICA....C & C was closing...and all the cab drivers swarmed upon the potential fares....AND WE've heard several threads earlier...the TAXI CABS in ARUBA LOOK LIKE REGULAR CARS...they probably were regular cars...in fact, if you wanted to make a few bucks...I bet you could drive down to C and C and would be able to pick up a "Potential Natalee" and make whatever to drive the 10 blocks to the HI....


There


True Whitney. I just can't fathom how they could see her get in a taxi but not have seen her outside the club with Joran.


It was probably a large crowd, I can see how they could be ahead and then turn back around looking for her and see her get into a car.
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« Reply #1464 on: June 22, 2005, 03:42:41 AM »

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see THIS is an example of what I hate about news..

Greta:
STAY TUNED FOR THE EXPLOSIVE MEETING/CONFRONTATION (NOT SURE WHICH SHE SAID) BETWEEN MR VDS AND BETH HOLLOWAY.

We have all watched it and it was NOT EXPLOSIVE!!!!


Yeah this really pissed me off, there was more on oreilly about the confronatation than on grettas own show.  Also it was implied their would be video.
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« Reply #1465 on: June 22, 2005, 03:43:24 AM »

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To sum it up FAST, Natalee had been to see the lighthouse already and had seen the sharks there IN THE DAYTIME, which makes it a little suspicious that she would want to go there at night when she couldn't see anything.

I'm leavin' it there and headin' to bed folks!

Pray for Natalee and that family. It just gets deeper and deeper.


It might have just been something stupid she said as a joke.


That's true, that and the shouting out the window part makes it sound like she is getting rowdy drunk... or under the drug influence.

Another little detail to check on... y'all may want to see if anyone has said what she hollered out the window. I have a feeling based on stuff that I have seen here and elsewhere that the shout could have been "Aruba Arriba!" which is a catch phrase down there and would be delivered in the same spirit as a Bama gal goin' to T-town next year would holler "Roll Tide!" Sounds like she is losing inhibitions.... hint, hint.

NOW I'm done. Good night all!
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« Reply #1466 on: June 22, 2005, 03:43:44 AM »

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see THIS is an example of what I hate about news..

Greta:
STAY TUNED FOR THE EXPLOSIVE MEETING/CONFRONTATION (NOT SURE WHICH SHE SAID) BETWEEN MR VDS AND BETH HOLLOWAY.

We have all watched it and it was NOT EXPLOSIVE!!!!


Nuh uh Kerin! I can't believe that. Why can't she say the truth..watch the mothers bond...watch a beautiful confronting moment...

of yeah... that doesn't sell

Man, I hate MSM
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« Reply #1467 on: June 22, 2005, 03:44:16 AM »

A CAN OF WHOOP AS* COMING GRETA'S WAY....
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« Reply #1468 on: June 22, 2005, 03:46:29 AM »

That just really pisses me off because of everything that has happened, that was, as I stated before, the most beautiful moment I can remember on th news. Something positive and heartfelt. Putting down differences and emotions to build a bridge and be, human.

I bet you, and I really mean it, Anita will ask Joran those questions if permitted!
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« Reply #1469 on: June 22, 2005, 03:46:44 AM »

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To sum it up FAST, Natalee had been to see the lighthouse already and had seen the sharks there IN THE DAYTIME, which makes it a little suspicious that she would want to go there at night when she couldn't see anything.

I'm leavin' it there and headin' to bed folks!

Pray for Natalee and that family. It just gets deeper and deeper.


It might have just been something stupid she said as a joke.


That's true, that and the shouting out the window part makes it sound like she is getting rowdy drunk... or under the drug influence.

Another little detail to check on... y'all may want to see if anyone has said what she hollered out the window. I have a feeling based on stuff that I have seen here and elsewhere that the shout could have been "Aruba Arriba!" which is a catch phrase down there and would be delivered in the same spirit as a Bama gal goin' to T-town next year would holler "Roll Tide!" Sounds like she is losing inhibitions.... hint, hint.

NOW I'm done. Good night all!


I had heard she shouted Yeah aruba but I that isn't confirmed.
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« Reply #1470 on: June 22, 2005, 03:48:12 AM »

Cali, did you just hear what GVS said about Joran's interrogations?
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« Reply #1471 on: June 22, 2005, 03:48:36 AM »

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To sum it up FAST, Natalee had been to see the lighthouse already and had seen the sharks there IN THE DAYTIME, which makes it a little suspicious that she would want to go there at night when she couldn't see anything.

I'm leavin' it there and headin' to bed folks!

Pray for Natalee and that family. It just gets deeper and deeper.


It might have just been something stupid she said as a joke.


That's true, that and the shouting out the window part makes it sound like she is getting rowdy drunk... or under the drug influence.

Another little detail to check on... y'all may want to see if anyone has said what she hollered out the window. I have a feeling based on stuff that I have seen here and elsewhere that the shout could have been "Aruba Arriba!" which is a catch phrase down there and would be delivered in the same spirit as a Bama gal goin' to T-town next year would holler "Roll Tide!" Sounds like she is losing inhibitions.... hint, hint.

NOW I'm done. Good night all!


I had heard she shouted Yeah aruba but I that isn't confirmed.


:::raising hand:::

I think we have said some odd things when drunk. I could buy someone saying they wanted to see sharks at night. When drunk, at times you make no sense.
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« Reply #1472 on: June 22, 2005, 03:49:14 AM »

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That just really pisses me off because of everything that has happened, that was, as I stated before, the most beautiful moment I can remember on th news. Something positive and heartfelt. Putting down differences and emotions to build a bridge and be, human.

I bet you, and I really mean it, Anita will ask Joran those questions if permitted!


i hear ya Cali, but unfortunatley i was focused more on the fact that the goodbye kiss was almost forced on BHT - did you notice she went for the handshake?  and being a southerner myself, i know for sure that if BHT was happy truly feeling good about it, she would have at least given her a hug goodbye

--just my thoughts on that
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« Reply #1473 on: June 22, 2005, 03:49:20 AM »

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Cali, did you just hear what GVS said about Joran's interrogations?


Nooo..running to TV now.. about the 11 hour ones?
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« Reply #1474 on: June 22, 2005, 03:49:41 AM »

:::raising hand::::
recently mooned someone while in a car after drinking too much...LMAO
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« Reply #1475 on: June 22, 2005, 03:50:40 AM »

Yo peeps!

I have to say I was a bit troubled by Nat's friends' interview.  My impression is that they're just trying to protect themselves and Natalee's image, but it's still bothersome.

Okay, we know one MB student said he saw a shoving match with Jaron the second day they were there (Friday?), but have we heard that Natalee personally met him then?  Meeting him that night seems unlikely since she was supposedly at the festival, but maybe they meant it was that day.

The girls interviewed said they didn't see Natalee get in the taxi... car, and that none of her good friends would have allowed her.  Obviously, someone saw her get in the car.  Also, let's assume for a second the Deepak email is legit.  Why would he make up that some of her friends yelled out to her to get out?  Obviously, he knew it would be checked with them, so it would be stupid to make that up.  My thoughts are that some of the students saw her get in the car, but nobody wants to say that on the record because they know there will be a blame game.  If Natalee did tell passing friends that she was fine in the car, they're afraid it will make Natalee look bad.

We have to keep in mind, also, that these are girls just out of high school.  They're not used to doing TV interviews where over a million people will be watching, and they appeared pretty nervous.  Not everyone can be as poised as Dash!
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« Reply #1476 on: June 22, 2005, 03:51:20 AM »

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Natalee's best friend's and roomates made the following statements:

Natalee met Joran the same day she disappeared at the casino where introduced herself. (Not true) (Was first established and backed by her mother that Natalee had met him a couple days prior) (She could not have met him at the casino the same day because she was verified to be at the festival) (The reported scuffle could have not tkaen place then and the kid who did the interview about the scuffle would have to be lying which I doubt)

They stated they left at 12:30 before the club closed. (Already been verified that Natalee was last seen at 1:30 am)

They did not see her with Joran outside of the club. (Already verified because if she wasn't seen outside the club with Joran then Joran was not the last person seen with her)

They made a faux pax and stated they saw her leave in a taxi, then about 30 seconds later you heard, I mean car.

Anyone else wanna add?


I think calling them liars is stretching it.  It's not like they couldn't remember where they dropped someone off.  

I doubt they looked at there watch when they left C&C.  Taxi/car, there hard to tell apart there.  They didn't see Joran?  Maybe they didn't but others did.  Same for when they met.


How can you not remember when she met Joran? These were her best friends... in every picture. She was always with them.

She's been more than once over and over said to be shy. Now she walks up to strangers and introduces herself out the blue?

The scuffle happened between Joran and the friend 2 days with Joran present, before she disppeared.

To my understanding, where the festival was verses the casino, CnC the time of the festival etc etc, conclude, she could not and did not meet him that same night.

I also believe her mother would not put out and keep with a totally opposite story.

If indeed, they got their facts wrong, forgot etc, is quite sad to be honest. They should have not gone on TV then but then again the questions are given in advance, therefore I would think one to be able to know the facts. Not to mention, the greatest fact of all, they are her "best friends" I would think (as I would) remember everything regarding that night because I can't forget it and I wasn't there.


CaliGirl...this is someone who, by all accounts, was a person that "school seemed to be easy."   I read it somewhere.  The peeps that wre interviewed didn't seem like National Merit Scholars.  Apparently, Natalee was either a NMS or there's a problem if she wasn't with a 4 point.

My classmates who were NSM and/or 4 points were distinguishing...and Natalee was one of those givers...she's a reputed "volunteer" and she was a flag girl...(see that picture of her carrying the pike charging the opposition Alabama team with a smile on her face...she was into military manuevers...LOL)

My point is in response to your posting...this girl didn't exactly "tell" her colleagues and maybe even her mother what was on her mind...you hear people tell us about Natalee...but it now sounds so ONE dimensional....I know you know what I mean...she was secretive/kept to herself/that's not all bad...
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« Reply #1477 on: June 22, 2005, 03:51:29 AM »

OK WAIT...I TAKE THAT BACK. SOMEONE I KNOW MOONED SOMEONE...

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Cali, she said that during those 11 hour interrogations they repeatedly show Joran Natalee's photo...
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« Reply #1478 on: June 22, 2005, 03:52:34 AM »

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« Reply #1479 on: June 22, 2005, 03:53:21 AM »

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Yo peeps!

I have to say I was a bit troubled by Nat's friends' interview.  My impression is that they're just trying to protect themselves and Natalee's image, but it's still bothersome.

Okay, we know one MB student said he saw a shoving match with Jaron the second day they were there (Friday?), but have we heard that Natalee personally met him then?  Meeting him that night seems unlikely since she was supposedly at the festival, but maybe they meant it was that day.

The girls interviewed said they didn't see Natalee get in the taxi... car, and that none of her good friends would have allowed her.  Obviously, someone saw her get in the car.  Also, let's assume for a second the Deepak email is legit.  Why would he make up that some of her friends yelled out to her to get out?  Obviously, he knew it would be checked with them, so it would be stupid to make that up.  My thoughts are that some of the students saw her get in the car, but nobody wants to say that on the record because they know there will be a blame game.  If Natalee did tell passing friends that she was fine in the car, they're afraid it will make Natalee look bad.

We have to keep in mind, also, that these are girls just out of high school.  They're not used to doing TV interviews where over a million people will be watching, and they appeared pretty nervous.  Not everyone can be as poised as Dash!


Has it been confirmed that some of the teens tried to get her to come with them, I've been hearing that a lot but dont know where it came from.
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