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« Reply #1480 on: June 22, 2005, 03:53:43 AM »

Hmmm... I just noticed Greta seemed to be wearing a wireless mic when she went into the VDS' house.  What do you bet that they actually got the conversation on tape?
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« Reply #1481 on: June 22, 2005, 03:53:57 AM »

like i said earlier when i said goodnight (and nobody responded), i hope the full moon will give us some answers
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« Reply #1482 on: June 22, 2005, 03:54:48 AM »

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Natalee's best friend's and roomates made the following statements:

Natalee met Joran the same day she disappeared at the casino where introduced herself. (Not true) (Was first established and backed by her mother that Natalee had met him a couple days prior) (She could not have met him at the casino the same day because she was verified to be at the festival) (The reported scuffle could have not tkaen place then and the kid who did the interview about the scuffle would have to be lying which I doubt)

They stated they left at 12:30 before the club closed. (Already been verified that Natalee was last seen at 1:30 am)

They did not see her with Joran outside of the club. (Already verified because if she wasn't seen outside the club with Joran then Joran was not the last person seen with her)

They made a faux pax and stated they saw her leave in a taxi, then about 30 seconds later you heard, I mean car.

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I think calling them liars is stretching it.  It's not like they couldn't remember where they dropped someone off.  

I doubt they looked at there watch when they left C&C.  Taxi/car, there hard to tell apart there.  They didn't see Joran?  Maybe they didn't but others did.  Same for when they met.


How can you not remember when she met Joran? These were her best friends... in every picture. She was always with them.

She's been more than once over and over said to be shy. Now she walks up to strangers and introduces herself out the blue?

The scuffle happened between Joran and the friend 2 days with Joran present, before she disppeared.

To my understanding, where the festival was verses the casino, CnC the time of the festival etc etc, conclude, she could not and did not meet him that same night.

I also believe her mother would not put out and keep with a totally opposite story.

If indeed, they got their facts wrong, forgot etc, is quite sad to be honest. They should have not gone on TV then but then again the questions are given in advance, therefore I would think one to be able to know the facts. Not to mention, the greatest fact of all, they are her "best friends" I would think (as I would) remember everything regarding that night because I can't forget it and I wasn't there.


CaliGirl...this is someone who, by all accounts, was a person that "school seemed to be easy."   I read it somewhere.  The peeps that wre interviewed didn't seem like National Merit Scholars.  Apparently, Natalee was either a NMS or there's a problem if she wasn't with a 4 point.

My classmates who were NSM and/or 4 points were distinguishing...and Natalee was one of those givers...she's a reputed "volunteer" and she was a flag girl...(see that picture of her carrying the pike charging the opposition Alabama team with a smile on her face...she was into military manuevers...LOL)

My point is in response to your posting...this girl didn't exactly "tell" her colleagues and maybe even her mother what was on her mind...you hear people tell us about Natalee...but it now sounds so ONE dimensional....I know you know what I mean...she was secretive/kept to herself/that's not all bad...


Oh agreed Whitney!

Most young kids don't. They aren't totally perfect and even when you think you know everything, you find out something new.  Very Happy
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« Reply #1483 on: June 22, 2005, 03:55:24 AM »

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like i said earlier when i said goodnight (and nobody responded), i hope the full moon will give us some answers


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« Reply #1484 on: June 22, 2005, 03:56:24 AM »

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Hmmm... I just noticed Greta seemed to be wearing a wireless mic when she went into the VDS' house.  What do you bet that they actually got the conversation on tape?


very good point.....i cant count many number of times that i have either caught unsuspecting conversations on wireless's left on (not to mention bathroom breaks) Embarassed  --- gotta hope the batteries were fresh and the room they spoke in was not on the opposite side of the house from the camera and receiver
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« Reply #1485 on: June 22, 2005, 03:56:52 AM »

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That just really pisses me off because of everything that has happened, that was, as I stated before, the most beautiful moment I can remember on th news. Something positive and heartfelt. Putting down differences and emotions to build a bridge and be, human.

I bet you, and I really mean it, Anita will ask Joran those questions if permitted!


i hear ya Cali, but unfortunatley i was focused more on the fact that the goodbye kiss was almost forced on BHT - did you notice she went for the handshake?  and being a southerner myself, i know for sure that if BHT was happy truly feeling good about it, she would have at least given her a hug goodbye

--just my thoughts on that


Well, I know in defense of Anita, that was a respect move. Dutch people do that and we are raised to do that.
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« Reply #1486 on: June 22, 2005, 03:56:54 AM »

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like i said earlier when i said goodnight (and nobody responded), i hope the full moon will give us some answers


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« Reply #1487 on: June 22, 2005, 03:57:07 AM »

Since I'm up and I am interested in this...does anyone recognize my Avatar?  I got mine because of the littletxlady's avatar....well, and then I have to say that weeks ago, I saw your CaliGirl one and like an american inquisitive person...actually like anyone who said, "How did she do that?"...

I got mine...

So...Do you know that avatar?...mine just happens to be a waving flag....what is it?
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« Reply #1488 on: June 22, 2005, 03:57:31 AM »

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Deepak or whoever wrote the email didn't make it up, it was reported a while ago actually, towards the beginning of the case.


I remember reading that, but do you know where that came from??  Did her friends really say that or did it originate with the three??
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« Reply #1489 on: June 22, 2005, 03:58:08 AM »

whitney...exactly. I posted my feelings on that. I think Natalee met Joran and DID have plans to hook up or however you want to say it but she did not share that info with her friends. Not unusual as I can tell you from being responsible for 40 teens girls,,,they may have best friends but they DO withhold details for fear that the other girls will then become interested in that boy too. Anyway, NO OFFENSE to anyone who knows Natalee, but it is very normal, no matter what age, to only reveal certain details of your thinking and it appears maybe Natalee had some normal hormone raging teen thoughts about Joran that she did not share with her friends.
With that said, why did they leave her at a club to go with strangers? WHY is she the only one we have heard went with strangers? I guarantee more girls did...we just haven't heard about them.
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« Reply #1490 on: June 22, 2005, 03:58:27 AM »

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OK WAIT...I TAKE THAT BACK. SOMEONE I KNOW MOONED SOMEONE...

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Cali, she said that during those 11 hour interrogations they repeatedly show Joran Natalee's photo...

Man, he's a minor too. Hmm my next mission in life.. attack my country's legal system lol
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« Reply #1491 on: June 22, 2005, 03:58:28 AM »

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like i said earlier when i said goodnight (and nobody responded), i hope the full moon will give us some answers


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ahh..finally i feel the love - thanks...goodnight girls
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« Reply #1492 on: June 22, 2005, 03:58:53 AM »

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like i said earlier when i said goodnight (and nobody responded), i hope the full moon will give us some answers


{{{{TUBE}}}}
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« Reply #1493 on: June 22, 2005, 03:59:59 AM »

OK, just ONE MORE ...

CaliGirl I wish I could believe like you do that Mama VDS was being sincere in all that. I am afraid that she and Papa are just playing for the cameras though. Had there been no TV crew there I just don't feel so sure that the reception would have been so cordial.

I have a friend who is Dutch and she is quite friendly, yet decorous. I understand how that is... but I think the vds bunch all know that they are under the microscope and are looking for a touch of sympathy. We gotta keep in mind that we have not ruled out Papa as a possible collaborator in a murder/manslaughter/kidnap/body disposal here. He acted just a little too ham-handed, in my skeptical mind!

I would liked to have seen what Jug Twitty and him would have said to each other Very Happy  after the "obnoxious slimeball" quote.

I GOTTA GO TO BED!!!!!!!!! Enough already! Night all!
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« Reply #1494 on: June 22, 2005, 04:03:34 AM »

My mind just keeps going back to what Anita VDS had posted on her school website....which was before any of this...does anyone remember??
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« Reply #1495 on: June 22, 2005, 04:04:36 AM »

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To sum it up FAST, Natalee had been to see the lighthouse already and had seen the sharks there IN THE DAYTIME, which makes it a little suspicious that she would want to go there at night when she couldn't see anything.

I'm leavin' it there and headin' to bed folks!

Pray for Natalee and that family. It just gets deeper and deeper.


It might have just been something stupid she said as a joke.


That's true, that and the shouting out the window part makes it sound like she is getting rowdy drunk... or under the drug influence.

Another little detail to check on... y'all may want to see if anyone has said what she hollered out the window. I have a feeling based on stuff that I have seen here and elsewhere that the shout could have been "Aruba Arriba!" which is a catch phrase down there and would be delivered in the same spirit as a Bama gal goin' to T-town next year would holler "Roll Tide!" Sounds like she is losing inhibitions.... hint, hint.

NOW I'm done. Good night all!


I had heard she shouted Yeah aruba but I that isn't confirmed.


:::raising hand:::

I think we have said some odd things when drunk. I could buy someone saying they wanted to see sharks at night. When drunk, at times you make no sense.


Could going to the lighthouse to watch the sharks be kinda like going there to watch the submarine races ??
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« Reply #1496 on: June 22, 2005, 04:04:56 AM »

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My mind just keeps going back to what Anita VDS had posted on her school website....which was before any of this...does anyone remember??


damn, i thought it was going to be quiet for a while and i could log off for bed....then here you come with a tease
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« Reply #1497 on: June 22, 2005, 04:06:11 AM »

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My mind just keeps going back to what Anita VDS had posted on her school website....which was before any of this...does anyone remember??


damn, i thought it was going to be quiet for a while and i could log off for bed....then here you come with a tease


so Tube....lay it on me  Very Happy
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« Reply #1498 on: June 22, 2005, 04:06:13 AM »

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My mind just keeps going back to what Anita VDS had posted on her school website....which was before any of this...does anyone remember??


Whitney what is the flag? lol Maybe I am too tired to guess lol

Kerin, yes.. lemme get my notes LMAO I am so tired I can't remember
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« Reply #1499 on: June 22, 2005, 04:07:08 AM »

OK OK....here is what she said...

Her goal in life was to become a SPIRITUAL LEADER
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