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« Reply #1500 on: June 22, 2005, 04:07:24 AM »

You're the one dangling bait out there Kerin.....tell me tell me tell me what was on the moms school site
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« Reply #1501 on: June 22, 2005, 04:08:13 AM »

I did dear....previous page  Cool
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« Reply #1502 on: June 22, 2005, 04:08:23 AM »

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OK OK....here is what she said...

Her goal in life was to become a SPIRITUAL LEADER



hmmmm...like david koresh?
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« Reply #1503 on: June 22, 2005, 04:08:47 AM »

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That just really pisses me off because of everything that has happened, that was, as I stated before, the most beautiful moment I can remember on th news. Something positive and heartfelt. Putting down differences and emotions to build a bridge and be, human.

I bet you, and I really mean it, Anita will ask Joran those questions if permitted!


i hear ya Cali, but unfortunatley i was focused more on the fact that the goodbye kiss was almost forced on BHT - did you notice she went for the handshake?  and being a southerner myself, i know for sure that if BHT was happy truly feeling good about it, she would have at least given her a hug goodbye

--just my thoughts on that


Well, I know in defense of Anita, that was a respect move. Dutch people do that and we are raised to do that.


I guess them "original Netherlanders" are plenty stoic...


Anyone here an F1 fan?  Know a driver named Kikki Raikonen (sic)?...the guy's won formula One races in a McClaren by Huge distances...he's backed by Mercedes and McClaren...his competitor is Ferrari...driven by the the german who's only been, in history, the best and keenest driver on F1 in the world...(and to you who think driving Indy 500 or whatever its equivalent is...Formulae 1 is doing video games precisely in real-time-in-real-life....If you mess up...you're out of the race....In Indy 500...if you mess up...you could be dead...and that's a whole different story.

for me, I'm FAR mor willing to give Paulus and Mrs VDS some slack in this matter having seen Greta's film...I know...I'm a communitst.
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« Reply #1504 on: June 22, 2005, 04:08:55 AM »

just thought it tells us a lot about who she is as a person...for those who say she is faking it or something
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« Reply #1505 on: June 22, 2005, 04:09:21 AM »

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Could going to the lighthouse to watch the sharks be kinda like going there to watch the submarine races ??


This is where I HATED to see this thing go. Absolutely.

But bear in mind that any of the date rape drugs would cause this shy girl to go off on a tangent like that. That's really my implication here.
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« Reply #1506 on: June 22, 2005, 04:09:32 AM »

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OK OK....here is what she said...

Her goal in life was to become a SPIRITUAL LEADER



hmmmm...like david koresh?


TUBE....you need to be spanked!!!!
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« Reply #1507 on: June 22, 2005, 04:10:48 AM »

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My mind just keeps going back to what Anita VDS had posted on her school website....which was before any of this...does anyone remember??


damn, i thought it was going to be quiet for a while and i could log off for bed....then here you come with a tease


so Tube....lay it on me  Very Happy


My personal mission in life is to be a spiritual leader

That is her statement
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« Reply #1508 on: June 22, 2005, 04:11:34 AM »

exactly, Cali.
speaks volumes for me as far as her being a fake
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« Reply #1509 on: June 22, 2005, 04:14:01 AM »

well, honestly, i feel that AVDS is probably a good, Dutch, woman and mother but possibly"overlooks" alot of shortcomings with her husband....i mean who knows really, but if there is specualtion of an affair/child with another woman, then possibly he is like many Dutch/germans/and others from all over the world who dont really have great moral values regarding sex/drugs/women/life

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« Reply #1510 on: June 22, 2005, 04:14:40 AM »

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That just really pisses me off because of everything that has happened, that was, as I stated before, the most beautiful moment I can remember on th news. Something positive and heartfelt. Putting down differences and emotions to build a bridge and be, human.

I bet you, and I really mean it, Anita will ask Joran those questions if permitted!


i hear ya Cali, but unfortunatley i was focused more on the fact that the goodbye kiss was almost forced on BHT - did you notice she went for the handshake?  and being a southerner myself, i know for sure that if BHT was happy truly feeling good about it, she would have at least given her a hug goodbye

--just my thoughts on that


Well, I know in defense of Anita, that was a respect move. Dutch people do that and we are raised to do that.


I guess them "original Netherlanders" are plenty stoic...


Anyone here an F1 fan?  Know a driver named Kikki Raikonen (sic)?...the guy's won formula One races in a McClaren by Huge distances...he's backed by Mercedes and McClaren...his competitor is Ferrari...driven by the the german who's only been, in history, the best and keenest driver on F1 in the world...(and to you who think driving Indy 500 or whatever its equivalent is...Formulae 1 is doing video games precisely in real-time-in-real-life....If you mess up...you're out of the race....In Indy 500...if you mess up...you could be dead...and that's a whole different story.

for me, I'm FAR mor willing to give Paulus and Mrs VDS some slack in this matter having seen Greta's film...I know...I'm a communitst.

I can vouch that at least my family and the people I have been around are stoic.

My parents were not affectionate in as how I have seen american parents. My grandparents were the same way, uncles, aunts,,you get the picture lol
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« Reply #1511 on: June 22, 2005, 04:14:52 AM »

another spanking coming your way!!!
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« Reply #1512 on: June 22, 2005, 04:15:50 AM »

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another spanking coming your way!!!


sweet, glad i brought my a-game
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« Reply #1513 on: June 22, 2005, 04:16:56 AM »

same here, Cali My in-laws still live in Germany and you would never know they are happy to have us fly halfway around the world. I mean they are very sweet but it is just a different "feeling". I mean I hug and kiss everyone I see. That is NOT how anyone in Germany is.
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« Reply #1514 on: June 22, 2005, 04:17:15 AM »

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Natalee's best friend's and roomates made the following statements:

Natalee met Joran the same day she disappeared at the casino where introduced herself. (Not true) (Was first established and backed by her mother that Natalee had met him a couple days prior) (She could not have met him at the casino the same day because she was verified to be at the festival) (The reported scuffle could have not tkaen place then and the kid who did the interview about the scuffle would have to be lying which I doubt)

They stated they left at 12:30 before the club closed. (Already been verified that Natalee was last seen at 1:30 am)

They did not see her with Joran outside of the club. (Already verified because if she wasn't seen outside the club with Joran then Joran was not the last person seen with her)

They made a faux pax and stated they saw her leave in a taxi, then about 30 seconds later you heard, I mean car.

Anyone else wanna add?


Why would they lie about any of that, seems more likely to me that their is just some misinformation.


Well, after tonite, I don't know anything anymore except facts embeded in my brain like an endless filing cabinet.

I would think the people who went to CnC with her would have facts. They stated they stayed with the chaperones etc and helped give information.

Now, I don't know about you but if I am going on national TV to help find my best friend since childhood, I would forget nothing about the last nite I saw, just as I being an active supporters in finding her can not forget every detial, post, information, rumor etc etc

Some of us were just speechless to say the least. In no way is it blaming the victim, but we all complain about not having straight answers from the suspects and in turn we now can't get straight ones broadcast to every TV tuned into FOX.


What she also said...her friend...was that there were many people there...tryijng to get a taxi...it was a swarm of cars and people trying to get a car to transport them...THINK THE ENTRYWAY TO ANY AIRPORT IN AMERICA....C & C was closing...and all the cab drivers swarmed upon the potential fares....AND WE've heard several threads earlier...the TAXI CABS in ARUBA LOOK LIKE REGULAR CARS...they probably were regular cars...in fact, if you wanted to make a few bucks...I bet you could drive down to C and C and would be able to pick up a "Potential Natalee" and make whatever to drive the 10 blocks to the HI....


There


True Whitney. I just can't fathom how they could see her get in a taxi but not have seen her outside the club with Joran.


It was probably a large crowd, I can see how they could be ahead and then turn back around looking for her and see her get into a car.


Yuppers...that's what you said, we've all said...I do believe...even though I hate to speak for all that sandwich, above...but it's a testament and puhleeze...those in the future who quote the primary source without the affirmations...will you just make your argument specific to all the supportees of the original argument?  

I'm sure this is going to be lost in the Wednesday morning fog...but just wanted to go on the record...

Lovies,

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« Reply #1515 on: June 22, 2005, 04:17:54 AM »

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whitney...exactly. I posted my feelings on that. I think Natalee met Joran and DID have plans to hook up or however you want to say it but she did not share that info with her friends. Not unusual as I can tell you from being responsible for 40 teens girls,,,they may have best friends but they DO withhold details for fear that the other girls will then become interested in that boy too. Anyway, NO OFFENSE to anyone who knows Natalee, but it is very normal, no matter what age, to only reveal certain details of your thinking and it appears maybe Natalee had some normal hormone raging teen thoughts about Joran that she did not share with her friends.
With that said, why did they leave her at a club to go with strangers? WHY is she the only one we have heard went with strangers? I guarantee more girls did...we just haven't heard about them.


I don;t know about the hooking up part. She could have just wanted to spend sometime with someone she liked, I could be wrong though.  I tend to think that if she did want something like that she would go somewhere with joran privately, not with 2 other guys.
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« Reply #1516 on: June 22, 2005, 04:19:44 AM »

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well, honestly, i feel that AVDS is probably a good, Dutch, woman and mother but possibly"overlooks" alot of shortcomings with her husband....i mean who knows really, but if there is specualtion of an affair/child with another woman, then possibly he is like many Dutch/germans/and others from all over the world who dont really have great moral values regarding sex/drugs/women/life

please dont attack me


I won't attack you, not at all! I would not say they have a lack of morals. They have different beliefs. They are very open sexually etc. whereas we in america put a huge value on sexually morals.

Hence, why the mayflower came over...we had wars, we have the declaration of independance, the constitution...etc etc The country was built on many different disagreed upon belief where people could live free to choose their valvues, morals, religion etc.. but this will turn out to be another whole discussion LOL sowwy!
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« Reply #1517 on: June 22, 2005, 04:21:17 AM »

Nite whitney!
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« Reply #1518 on: June 22, 2005, 04:21:55 AM »

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That just really pisses me off because of everything that has happened, that was, as I stated before, the most beautiful moment I can remember on th news. Something positive and heartfelt. Putting down differences and emotions to build a bridge and be, human.

I bet you, and I really mean it, Anita will ask Joran those questions if permitted!


i hear ya Cali, but unfortunatley i was focused more on the fact that the goodbye kiss was almost forced on BHT - did you notice she went for the handshake?  and being a southerner myself, i know for sure that if BHT was happy truly feeling good about it, she would have at least given her a hug goodbye

--just my thoughts on that


Well, I know in defense of Anita, that was a respect move. Dutch people do that and we are raised to do that.


I guess them "original Netherlanders" are plenty stoic...


Anyone here an F1 fan?  Know a driver named Kikki Raikonen (sic)?...the guy's won formula One races in a McClaren by Huge distances...he's backed by Mercedes and McClaren...his competitor is Ferrari...driven by the the german who's only been, in history, the best and keenest driver on F1 in the world...(and to you who think driving Indy 500 or whatever its equivalent is...Formulae 1 is doing video games precisely in real-time-in-real-life....If you mess up...you're out of the race....In Indy 500...if you mess up...you could be dead...and that's a whole different story.

for me, I'm FAR mor willing to give Paulus and Mrs VDS some slack in this matter having seen Greta's film...I know...I'm a communitst.

I can vouch that at least my family and the people I have been around are stoic.

My parents were not affectionate in as how I have seen american parents. My grandparents were the same way, uncles, aunts,,you get the picture lol


It's, I think even true in Far Eastern cultures AND those eastern cultures that we're at "DISCUSSION WITH"..LOL like Iran...maybe Pakistand on a bad day...and until recently...India...

Now...let's just conquer China and all will be well
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« Reply #1519 on: June 22, 2005, 04:22:08 AM »

when I say hooking up I meant more that she DID make plans to meet Joran at the club but did not reveal that to her friends. I would never say she planned to meet to make out or anything worse as I do not know this young girl.
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