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« Reply #720 on: June 21, 2005, 10:47:03 PM »

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People in hotels do not move room to room.  Girls are pretty particvulat about thier stuff.    Maybe in a dorm, but not a hotel.


Whose to say they went to sleep at all, I wouldn't doubt that a lot of them stayed up the entire night.
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« Reply #721 on: June 21, 2005, 10:47:10 PM »

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"So betty that was my part of the story what i said here is the same in my statement,people are saying they are bad guys lock them up , the family is going thru a lot righnow , but what they don't know how the other families feel and how they also have a reputation and carreers etc. because when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had something to do with the kidnap of natalee its a small island.they don't understand the pressure we are having also, if this girl turns up dead we have a problem we were the last seen with her . I lost a lot of friends who think we had to do something with this, many of my friends supported us also brought food etc. for us at home and know we are innocent, we are innocent also we promise i would NEVER hurt anyone in anyway, i would do every everything to help find her thats what we told eveyone also , i would take a bullet to save her and bring her back to her family if i had to so would my friend also.i would never never hurt anyone i'm a very happy and social person who likes to make friends with people and not hurting them"


Who is betty?


Thanks for repeating it, I tried to delete all names and I apparently forgot one, edited too late!!  Sad
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« Reply #722 on: June 21, 2005, 10:47:32 PM »

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YEAH WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS EMAIL? seriously......someone is stating that they have an email? i read it and understand what is in it, just confused as to what this has to do with anything! I cant imagine how an email from one of the suspets would get out and if it was from one ofo these guys...then why did he stop at the end like that


Isn't that evidence tampering?


That email was written, if you believe it, prior to Deepak's arrest, if it's his. Regardless, no it isn't evidence tampering - I can almost within 100% guarentee the authorities have a copy of it, if it's real.  I must say though, it combined with Greta, does change the story somewhat.
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« Reply #723 on: June 21, 2005, 10:48:10 PM »

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IF the letter is Deepak's, why the hell did their stories change?

Anyway guys, have to go to sleep.

Good night.


Do we actually know their stories changed from a FACTUAL source?
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« Reply #724 on: June 21, 2005, 10:48:20 PM »

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People in hotels do not move room to room.  Girls are pretty particvulat about thier stuff.    Maybe in a dorm, but not a hotel.


I disagree.  From my experience there is alot of movement from room to room. Especially if the roommates were chosen with friends not together.  It was a beach, party, casino atmosphere...not a stuff hotel.
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« Reply #725 on: June 21, 2005, 10:48:30 PM »

Now the question is do you send it to greta?
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« Reply #726 on: June 21, 2005, 10:48:32 PM »

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hey , my friend matt just joined and wants to talk about natalee... give him a real hard time... Twisted Evil


real hard time

we oblige even, Rob
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« Reply #727 on: June 21, 2005, 10:48:44 PM »

Kerin, that's a wise wise question.
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« Reply #728 on: June 21, 2005, 10:49:11 PM »

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IF the letter is Deepak's, why the hell did their stories change?

Anyway guys, have to go to sleep.

Good night.


Do we actually know their stories changed from a FACTUAL source?


Nope but if they did PRESSURE
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« Reply #729 on: June 21, 2005, 10:49:22 PM »

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IF the letter is Deepak's, why the hell did their stories change?

Anyway guys, have to go to sleep.

Good night.

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Where do we actually KNOW that their stories EVER CHANGED?

They could have let the Guards go to watch them, as they did the Boys'
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« Reply #730 on: June 21, 2005, 10:49:39 PM »

Dallas Also
Thank you for the reply, stepped away for a moment...sorry
DO you think this statement has any validity?
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« Reply #731 on: June 21, 2005, 10:49:43 PM »

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Jorans father looks destroyed, not attogant.

To me at least.

So much pain for both families.

Joran supposedly snuck out.


I thought I also understood Greta to say that PVDS "thinks" that he got Joran up that next morning, not sure if he went to school.  Did I hear that?  Did anyone else hear that?  That maybe daddy can't really remember if he woke Joran up for school or if he went to school?


Can't remember because he is protecting his son.



Well, I thought about it at the time Greta said it and I thought about my ex-husband and what he would be like if I were out of town.  My kids are younger, but if they were older he probably wouldn't be real great about making sure they got up and probably wouldn't remember which morning was which and wouldn't be able to seperate one morning from another.  In my experience, and only MINE (not implying that all men are absent minded), men are just not as good at that sort of thing and don't have the memory about that stuff that women do.  I guess I can find his story believable.  Not sure I do believe it, but I can see a man not really knowing for sure.


i think he would remember if a desperate women was at his door looking for her child....


You have a point, he may remember waking Joran up, but may really have no clue when and if Joran left for school.  And maybe he didn't even wake him up but doesn't want to say that he didn't wake him up and make sure he got to school because momma VDS might get upset or whole world will think "what kind of father forgets to wake up their son and get them off to school?"  He may have no idea if Joran was home in the AM or whether or not he went to school.
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« Reply #732 on: June 21, 2005, 10:50:23 PM »

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DT- wrote-"Whose to say they went to sleep at all, I wouldn't doubt that a lot of them stayed up the entire night."


 and Not 1 KID asked "WHERE is Natalee?" If she was so popular then someone certainly would have known about her where-abouts. Or was concnerned when someone asked about her. Or would they ?

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« Reply #733 on: June 21, 2005, 10:50:48 PM »

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Jorans father looks destroyed, not attogant.

To me at least.

So much pain for both families.

Joran supposedly snuck out.


I thought I also understood Greta to say that PVDS "thinks" that he got Joran up that next morning, not sure if he went to school.  Did I hear that?  Did anyone else hear that?  That maybe daddy can't really remember if he woke Joran up for school or if he went to school?


Can't remember because he is protecting his son.



Well, I thought about it at the time Greta said it and I thought about my ex-husband and what he would be like if I were out of town.  My kids are younger, but if they were older he probably wouldn't be real great about making sure they got up and probably wouldn't remember which morning was which and wouldn't be able to seperate one morning from another.  In my experience, and only MINE (not implying that all men are absent minded), men are just not as good at that sort of thing and don't have the memory about that stuff that women do.  I guess I can find his story believable.  Not sure I do believe it, but I can see a man not really knowing for sure.


i think he would remember if a desperate women was at his door looking for her child....


You have a point, he may remember waking Joran up, but may really have no clue when and if Joran left for school.  And maybe he didn't even wake him up but doesn't want to say that he didn't wake him up and make sure he got to school because momma VDS might get upset or whole world will think "what kind of father forgets to wake up their son and get them off to school?"  He may have no idea if Joran was home in the AM or whether or not he went to school.


Dutch time.
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« Reply #734 on: June 21, 2005, 10:51:11 PM »

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IF the letter is Deepak's, why the hell did their stories change?

Anyway guys, have to go to sleep.

Good night.


Do we actually know their stories changed from a FACTUAL source?


Aruban newspapers, American newspapers and BHT herself have stated it repeatedly.  Even Jossey (sp) and other Aruban authorities have alluded to it.
The first mention was within a day of them being taken into custody when their stories didn't match Joran's and then Joran changed his back to them both being dropped off alone at the Lighthouse.  No amount of pressure should be able to make an honest detailed account change, IMO.
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« Reply #735 on: June 21, 2005, 10:51:12 PM »

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didn't Natalee and joran know each other before that night according to her friends?

and if this email is to be believed, then what happened after the cars leave each other?  Very convienent that is the end of the email



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Help I'm lost.  I had to go to a dinner meeting.  I can see that there has been speculation about NH being at the VDS.  I know that someone else has probably come up with this but its what about forensics from the search.


there was a CNN report this mgn that forensic evidnce was sent to the netherlands from the two cars..
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« Reply #736 on: June 21, 2005, 10:51:14 PM »

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The one thing I find interesting about wonderwoman's/Depack email is this - until tonite on Greta - we did not know that Joran snuk out, and we also heard from Natalee's friend tonite that Nat introduced herself - this email does seem to support those two facts - and this email appeared before Greta's show - that to me is rather interesting!


 Agreed. But doesn't later testimony that they dropped Joran and Nat off at the beach and went home completely contradict that email? Also the alleged apology he gave to the security guard, etc?


How do we know that the testimony changed? From blogs and unnamed sources or the police? I don't remember. ANd as far as the security guard story -- how do we know he's telling the truth. It's my turn to take a pull from the excedrin bottle. Pass it around please.
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« Reply #737 on: June 21, 2005, 10:51:17 PM »

Greta...she seems like the only TV journalist who can deliver any clear info about this crime.

Greta for President!
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« Reply #738 on: June 21, 2005, 10:51:21 PM »

I don't know...I'm just not buying the e-mail account...just before broadcast of Greta's show and dis-crediting NH...can you say dis-information??? It's an old trick...known to many...

I still would like to see full internet mail headers showing IP and e-mail addresses and domains. Without that data it's ONLY HEARSAY!!!
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« Reply #739 on: June 21, 2005, 10:52:05 PM »

Sad  Geez, I must have been ghosted....
I'm outty.
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