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« Reply #940 on: June 21, 2005, 11:48:56 PM »

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OK. Now I KNOW he's lying. Networks like ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, etc. DON'T PAY FOR INTERVIEWS. Maybe the tabloids do, but not networks. He said NBC offered to pay him for an interview. LYING!


Not for the news. . . but there are plenty of other tabloid type shows that probably would,indeed, pay for interviews.


Uhm.  A Current Affair?[/quote]Without a doubt
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« Reply #941 on: June 21, 2005, 11:49:20 PM »

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ok, so WW is in aruba, correct?
 And, she is not betty, correct?
AND, her friend is betty, correct?
OK...so, where is betty? wonder if she'd be willing to come log on and post her thoights....


We shouldn't even know betty.


Can we advise Betty that she might want to 'lawyer up' soon?
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« Reply #942 on: June 21, 2005, 11:50:12 PM »

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maybe daddy can't really remember if he woke Joran up for school or if he went to school?...
Can't remember because he is protecting his son.


Or maybe because daddy tends to be the more lenient one, and maybe because daddy had a nightcap or two more than he usually would, since Anita was out of town...
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« Reply #943 on: June 21, 2005, 11:50:13 PM »

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ok, so WW is in aruba, correct?
 And, she is not betty, correct?
AND, her friend is betty, correct?
OK...so, where is betty? wonder if she'd be willing to come log on and post her thoights....


We shouldn't even know betty.


i am wodering if we really know shit.
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« Reply #944 on: June 21, 2005, 11:50:15 PM »

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i notice that jorans father is said to be a judge ....i thought we est. he is not a judge... why would this be included???


I wondered the same thing.  Deepak knows Paul and has been around him--why would he think that Paul is a judge, when he's not?


I'm a legal assistant and my kids have told their friends I was an attorney...completely by mistake when they were young and didn't know better.  Judge-in-training/Judge...to kids, what's the difference?


Exactly. I believe this was explained on FOX already. He does hear limited cases. To me that's a judge either way.

That's like telling a Deputy District Attorney they aren't an "DA" because they are a deputy DA..so on and so on



I understand that! I was working with the coroners office here..just as a nurse.. but, was called in at all hours, was in autopsies, at scenes, at the hospital pulling tubes out of dead people...telling families their child was dead...but i was not considered a "coroner"....LOL...
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« Reply #945 on: June 21, 2005, 11:51:08 PM »

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Isn't it wierd that Papa VDS doesn't care that his 17 year old frequents the casinos?  Doesn't the law say you must be 18?  Isn't he supposed to uphold the laws of his country?????


Why does it matter? I haven't seen any info that indicates it was an everyday happening, anyway.

Just like even if Natalee was drunk and taking drugs by choice and picking up guys it doesn't make murder right.

I'm glad some of this information is coming out, I have been sceptical about all the demonization of Joran and bros, I live in a tacky tourist town and local guys who just want to get laid have no problem picking up hot tourist women, they don't have to kidnapp and force them.


I guess Americans never break the law????


No, we just make up the laws as we go along!  Laughing

The problem with taking drugs especially while you are drinking alcohol is that the interaction can kill a person. With Natalee's small size 110lb's? It wouldnt take very much to overdose, which is probably what happened.
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« Reply #946 on: June 21, 2005, 11:51:36 PM »

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If the email is sent to you directly, yes.  Please note the use of forwarded emails in my description.  Those emails, forwarded, lose their header information from the prior person the email was sent to.

Yes but WonderWoman would have the original email and would be able to view and forward the header information. You can easily do a address to name lookup using whois or one of the European name lookup services to verify the validity.


Not if it's been forwarded 6 times or more before it got to her:)  You'd be tracing from computer to computer, and frankly some email servers and routers block the echo back with an "unknown" attribute.


So obviously we need WonderWoman to answer, was this email sent directly to you or was it forwarded? WonderWoman???


TO ALL: These emails were forwarded. WW is not the only person who got them. But they were all forwarded. There is no usuable header info in them. The facts of them are the dates and the content. Judge these based soley on that.


I can't do that.  I've been at this a long time...AND, believe me in a case like this it's not rare to receive odd emails like this...unless the header info can be found...these aren't worth spending time on.  Sure there's a chance they are real...but, I highly doubt it.  Without verification this was emailed from Aruba and the dates,etc. it's worthless as a possible piece of evidence.


That makes 2 of us and I am telling you the facts of the piece of evidence. You have decided to discount based on those facts and that is fine. I cannot squeeze blood out of this turnip, even if it did just fall off the truck.
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« Reply #947 on: June 21, 2005, 11:51:44 PM »

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OK. Now I KNOW he's lying. Networks like ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, etc. DON'T PAY FOR INTERVIEWS. Maybe the tabloids do, but not networks. He said NBC offered to pay him for an interview. LYING!


Not for the news. . . but there are plenty of other tabloid type shows that probably would,indeed, pay for interviews.[/quote]

You're right they don't pay.
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« Reply #948 on: June 21, 2005, 11:51:52 PM »

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ok, so WW is in aruba, correct?
 And, she is not betty, correct?
AND, her friend is betty, correct?
OK...so, where is betty? wonder if she'd be willing to come log on and post her thoights....


We shouldn't even know betty.


i am wodering if we really know shit.


I can say for a fact....and this is CONFIRMED....I DON'T know shit!  This case is so effin frustrating.  I'm having another drink!
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« Reply #949 on: June 21, 2005, 11:51:59 PM »

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ok, so WW is in aruba, correct?
 And, she is not betty, correct?
AND, her friend is betty, correct?
OK...so, where is betty? wonder if she'd be willing to come log on and post her thoights....


We shouldn't even know betty.


Can we advise Betty that she might want to 'lawyer up' soon?


ROFLMAO!!!!
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« Reply #950 on: June 21, 2005, 11:52:10 PM »

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Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:26:12 +0000


 
Thank you for your wonderfull email you send me I really appreciate it.
Things are going better with me now , as you you know there has been 2 arrests i don't know if it comes because the information we gave or just another tip.They were 2 security guards for a hotel nearby the holiday inn where natalee was staying , but we don't have any further information . I would be willing to try making an Id by the police for the 2 suspects i only saw one of them in the news.My parents are doing better now , my friends parents are doing well as well. Although we are almost of the hook we still don't walk much on the streets a lot of fingers are being pointed etc. But the press Is like trying to locate us or something i don't know this morning my friend got a letter for nbc if we were willing to give an intervieuw for a very good price we did not respond to them yet , we don't know if we will give interview as yet. The local press however we won't give any interview they sad a lot of bad things about us they should be ashamed of theirselves.But for now its just from home to work for me , and in the afternoons i go by my friends house we order pizza etc. and watch the news whats going.
Anyways  i have to go now , if i have any ipdates i will let you know asap. the press is all over it so i don't think you will be missing any part of it .
As for for natalees parents we did not hear or see them personally yet , the police chief askes us if we would be willing to talk to them if they wanted to talk to us . We accepted that as long they would not talk aggressive to us as they did before.
 
Take care , Say hi to the others and I will mail you again
 


I thought her mother was crying and the step father cursed at them that night they came to Jorans house
 
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Deepak.


Notice the contridiction  (in bold)



I believe he meant formally.....as in a conversation....
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« Reply #951 on: June 21, 2005, 11:52:15 PM »

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If these emails are real, they should be turned over immediately to the FBI (not Aruban police).


Who is to say they haven't already been forwarded to the FBI?
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« Reply #952 on: June 21, 2005, 11:52:33 PM »

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ok, so WW is in aruba, correct?
 And, she is not betty, correct?
AND, her friend is betty, correct?
OK...so, where is betty? wonder if she'd be willing to come log on and post her thoights....


We shouldn't even know betty.


Can we advise Betty that she might want to 'lawyer up' soon?


Should be easy since she is an american. Read the facts.
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« Reply #953 on: June 21, 2005, 11:53:06 PM »

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...wodering if we really know shit.


Sure! here's the shit we know.

A young girl has gone missing in Aruba.

The US government has taken a very unusual interest in the case.
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« Reply #954 on: June 21, 2005, 11:53:08 PM »

Is there any part in the e-mail that any person couldn't write if they have been following this board..... I'm Calling BS!!!
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« Reply #955 on: June 21, 2005, 11:53:39 PM »

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I found it strange that the Joran's parents agreed to an interview.  I do not think its a PR thing, but just a folksy, small town mentality saying sure why not.


I'm not sure the father even knew it was an "interview" of sorts. It seems Greta and Beth just showed up at the property and were surprised that the father asked them in. I think the father HIMSELF was surprised that he did.
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« Reply #956 on: June 21, 2005, 11:53:40 PM »

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i notice that jorans father is said to be a judge ....i thought we est. he is not a judge... why would this be included???


I wondered the same thing.  Deepak knows Paul and has been around him--why would he think that Paul is a judge, when he's not?


Because kids exaggerate? Joron seems like a boastful kind of kid; we really don't know how much contact the brothers had with  the VDS family. If J had told him "Hey my dads important, he's a judge" wouldn't D have believed him?
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« Reply #957 on: June 21, 2005, 11:53:53 PM »

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If these emails are real, they should be turned over immediately to the FBI (not Aruban police).


Who is to say they haven't already been forwarded to the FBI?


Yep.  Or better yet, the Aruban police already have them due to FBI involvement.
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« Reply #958 on: June 21, 2005, 11:54:01 PM »

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If the email is sent to you directly, yes.  Please note the use of forwarded emails in my description.  Those emails, forwarded, lose their header information from the prior person the email was sent to.

Yes but WonderWoman would have the original email and would be able to view and forward the header information. You can easily do a address to name lookup using whois or one of the European name lookup services to verify the validity.


Not if it's been forwarded 6 times or more before it got to her:)  You'd be tracing from computer to computer, and frankly some email servers and routers block the echo back with an "unknown" attribute.


So obviously we need WonderWoman to answer, was this email sent directly to you or was it forwarded? WonderWoman???


TO ALL: These emails were forwarded. WW is not the only person who got them. But they were all forwarded. There is no usuable header info in them. The facts of them are the dates and the content. Judge these based soley on that.


I can't do that.  I've been at this a long time...AND, believe me in a case like this it's not rare to receive odd emails like this...unless the header info can be found...these aren't worth spending time on.  Sure there's a chance they are real...but, I highly doubt it.  Without verification this was emailed from Aruba and the dates,etc. it's worthless as a possible piece of evidence.


That makes 2 of us and I am telling you the facts of the piece of evidence. You have decided to discount based on those facts and that is fine. I cannot squeeze blood out of this turnip, even if it did just fall off the truck.

Love it!! He should be an actor!
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« Reply #959 on: June 21, 2005, 11:54:13 PM »

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If these emails are real, they should be turned over immediately to the FBI (not Aruban police).


Who is to say they haven't already been forwarded to the FBI?


My bet is all LE involved has them, and has for several days.
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