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« Reply #680 on: June 21, 2005, 10:33:21 PM »

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Okay, now I'm confused.

Me too Arubagirl!
Time to go to bed & pick up on this in the morning.
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« Reply #681 on: June 21, 2005, 10:33:21 PM »

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YES!!!! Her friend just confirmed that she had never met him......before that night...he wasn't flirting, Natalee introduced HERSELF to him...


It was just confirmed by Nat's friend that she had NOT met him before that night and that SHE introduced herself to him.

hmmm....very interesting...


Yeah...okay I have come to one conclusion.. no one has one story.. sorry no offense to anyone from MB
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« Reply #682 on: June 21, 2005, 10:33:28 PM »

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5/29 Joran calls dad to be picked up at McDonalds at 11pm
Then Joran sneaks out of house sometime after midnight and went to Carlos and Charlies
Father had no knowledge

Mother in Holland


Kerin,
Seriously. Why would a teacher leave the country before the school year was up, before exams, before her in-service day? You're a teacher. Would you leave school before it ended for the year? Doesn't make sense. I think she was still in Aruba.


I believe the parents.  If she was lying she would have already been in questioned.


Ok. Wait. Did Anita v.d Sloot SAY she was in Holland that night? Or is this just speculation?
sorry, but i've been off the board since yesterday when white lightning zapped ma phone and made my internet access dead as a doorknob.
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« Reply #683 on: June 21, 2005, 10:33:31 PM »

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What else could those young ladies tell.


Where was the Greta question of why were not you worried when she did not come home that night? These were her roomates and best friends, right?


I totally agree, Red.
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« Reply #684 on: June 21, 2005, 10:34:44 PM »

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How are you i hope you and your family is fine.(NAME DELETED) is better i tell you the truth , before it will be a shock for you later, but i think it will be a shock for you rightnow.
The missing girl natalee hollaway,I spoke to her , sunday she left with me , my brother and a friend from carlos n' charlies , it was my car like the news said she got in to, I am one of the persons of intrest , i am one the the students they've questioned and released as they claimed in the news .
Let see where to start i don't even know where to begin these last days where so crazy for me i'm very tired haven't slept good in days : The story starts sunday night when a friend of mine was playing poker at a local casino (in the holiday inn) after he won the poker at the fourth place he decided to get up and play some blackjack so he went to the blackjack table and there was natalee (they were a lil drunk ) so my friend started playing blackjack and he was winning quite good , so then natalee approached him and introduced herself and said to him'' your a lucky guy , can you help me win some of my money back i lost $ 360 , of my fathers money'' so my friend said ok , why not . so he started playing and he won 100 $ for her back and he said hey thats the best i can do for you because i doubt it i can win more money for you so its better i quit so she said ok but at least let me buy you a drink so they went to the bar (in the casino ). so they took a drink and started talking etc. about school, the vacation etc.etc.afterwards my friend had to go and she said that ''today is my last day i will be in carlos n' charlies will you be there'' and my friend said well i have school tomorrow i don't think so . well she begged him and he still said yes i'll be there.So that was in the casino i was not present , i was at work so my friend called me and said hey i met some girls in the casino and her friends and they want us to meet them in carlos tonight do you have to work tomorrow morning i said no , so he said pick me up later then i said ok. so i got off my shift at 10 pm and went home took a bath had to fix something and then me and my younger brother went to pick up my friend was around 12.10 am so i came to his home and was talked for like 15 min and then left to go to carlos (we all went out without or parents knew) so we arrived like 12.30 am in carlos (carlos is closing 1 pm ) and headed straight for the bar and bought 3 drinks my friend paid for them, so besides the bar there is a stage and people were dancing and there was natalee dancing too (thats the first time i saw her )and she was calling my friend to get on the stage and dance with her  my friend laughed and refused so after the song was finished she came up to my friend and asked why he won't dance with her , i only heared that part because i was talking to someone else so i don't know what he responded(by then natalee was VERY drunk)so as i said i was talking to someone when i turned i had lost my brother , natalee and my friend. well they were announced that they were closing soon so i thought well maybe they' re waiting for me by the car its better i go there so i went to my car and nobody was there so i started playing music and was waiting on my brother and my friend.i waited for like 10 min and then i saw my brother stepping in the car and my friend who was with natalee. so i was surprised but anyways i started the engine and my brother was besides me and my friend and natalee were in the backseet so i started cruising in the area and asked my friend whats going on so natalee responded to me ''hey its no prob let us just drive around and have fun its my last night , she said you can drop me off later at holiday inn anyways right'' i said sure why not so as i was drove out of the carlos road and got on the mainroad there were natalees friends and she , pushed het head out of the window and screamed something i can't recall.so i was driving very slow to make a left to get in the next road and then one of natalees friend screamed for her to get out of the car , and she refused so then i stopped my car and i said natalee if your friends want you to go with them its better you go listen to them and go with them , she said no i will stay with you guys i will get a lift from you anways later, so she said bye to her friends and i drove away, so then we were just talking etc, in the car and then she said she wanted to see sharks ,it was by the lighthouse she saw them before that can we go , my friend said ok ,deepak lets go. so on my my to the lighthouse there was music playing and noone talking for a while when i looked in the backmirror my friend and natalee were kissing and touching (his hands etc was in her blouse but nothing nude or against natalees will ) so my brother siad just leave them for a while untill we get to the lighthouse, when i arrived at the lighthouse i said well here is the lighthouse they did not pay attention to me , so my brother said lets return (i did not stop anywhere not for a min only trafficlights) so after like 10 min my friend is telling me that natalee fell asleep i said you kidding just wake her up and tell ask her if its holiday inn for sure she is staying so my friend woke her up and confirmed with natalee she was staying at the holiday inn, so i drove to the lobby driveway of holiday inn and then we woke her up, she got out of the car and fell on the floor my friend said damn she fell and then rushed out of the same door natalee came out and picked her up immediately, after she stood up she pushed my friend and said leave me alone or something like that i can't recall , my friend offered to help het to her room she said no. she he stepped in the car and while i was driving away i saw natalee walking towards the lobby and a gentleman with a walkie talkie and black clothes approached her and i think they were talking and i had never seen natalee again sinds.(holiday inn has no cameras in the driveway or lobby) it was around 2.15 am .monday i came to work normally 4- 11 pm after work i called my friend i said whats up he said ok i'm at the raddison casino meet me there , i said ok  so i went there we played poker , we had some drinks and chat and then we had enough and decided that this casino was booring lets go to whyndham hotel casino . so i drove to whyndham and as i was parking my friends dad called him and said the police is at his home with some family members its about the girl you guys went out with yesterday , so my friend said wait there i be there, so we rushed at my friends home and there was the police and nataless family and it was a nightmare sinds then. the police asked us if we knew this girl showed us a picture we said yes thats her , they said she was missing and eyewitness say she was the last seen with you guys . so they asked a few more questions and we said we don't understand we left her at holiday inn lobby drive way how could she dissapear and then natalees stepfather jumped and said ''yes thats because after she went with you assholes she lost'' and then my friends father jumped and said thats enough you can't talk to the kids like that this is not the us your out of you juristiction this is not the way i want you people out of my yard i know the law (my friends father is e judge) so afterwards another family member of natalee suggested to the police if we can id the security gard we said ok. we went there there was no suck security working there as we discribed. so then we were just standing in the lobby there were questions etc. asked by other members , and then me and my friend walked to the car natalees mom was sitting and we said mam you have to believe us we did not do anything with you daughter, she was crying and said i don't believe you 2 , i promise you i will make you life a living hell because of this . anwyas we said we were sorry again ans that we will help in any way possible.i went home 7 pm tuesday, i was then called 2 pm by the police for questioning i went gave a statement they said i was a witness no suspect the same went for my brother and my friend they were questionded and had to sign their statement also , the checked my car and i was clear to go , wednesday i was called again to show them how i drove the route that day ( i could refuse was my right i still decided to go , as did my brother and friend ) the drove us one by one and then we were free to go again.thursday morning my friend called me (he goes to aruba international school and his mother is a teacher there and he is a straight A student ) in panic and said there a re family members here at school and they are sharing flyers and the flyers said : GIRL KIDNAPPED ASK JORAN VANDER SLOOT (thats my friends name ) the principle asked them to leave and they did .so thats my part of the story yesterday and today it was quiet no treathen phoncalls what we got before and i won't mention the crazythings the newspapers etc. writes about us its to much to mention. at home my mom is losing it she is cryimg constantly , my dad bloodpressure got high also his hands are red , my friends home is a disaster also ,his mom is crying constantly also his dad is pretty cool he calmes us down and talks to us also not to worry , my brother is preety cool but on his face you see he is worried , my friend is pretty worried also. i'm pretty worried also , we have 2 lawyers one for my friend and one for me in case we get arrested and charched with something his dad can't defend hin he is a judge and he is too emotional attached .my friend has his graduation this thursday he has to go to the states in july he has a full scholarship. i had to go to vacation also end of this month.many politicians find we should be locked up rightnow.We heard a lot of false alarms that she was dead , she was seen with 2 guys , her hair is cut and is red now ,she was in a crackhouse etc, we were arrested and , my car is by the police we confessed to murder and rape, she went in a restaurant to buy food but none of those were true.So (name deleted) that was my part of the story what i said here is the same in my statement,people are saying they are bad guys lock them up , the family is going thru a lot righnow , but what they don't know how the other families feel and how they also have a reputation and carreers etc. because when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had something to do with the kidnap of natalee its a small island.they don't understand the pressure we are having also, if this girl turns up dead we have a problem we were the last seen with her . I lost a lot of friends who think we had to do something with this, many of my friends supported us also brought food etc. for us at home and know we are innocent, we are innocent also we promise i would NEVER hurt anyone in anyway, i would do every everything to help find her thats what we told eveyone also , i would take a bullet to save her and bring her back to her family if i had to so would my friend also.i would never never hurt anyone i'm a very happy and social person who likes to make friends with people and not hurting them
 
 
So (NAME DELETED) i will say goodbye now hope you believe me and i pray to god that they find natalee soon and find her well so that this nightmare ends  for all of us and they we prove we had nothing to do with this, i hope you pray for all of us say hi to everyone there hope to hear from you soon and may god bless.........
 
bye bye
 
Deepak.
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« Reply #685 on: June 21, 2005, 10:34:56 PM »

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Okay, now I'm confused.


How is this for a theory. You are with hot guy and your close friends leave you at the bar an hour before it closes because you are having the time of your life.


Forgive my ignorance, but I don't see how anything they did prior to Natalee leaving with three guys who admit leaving with her has any bearing on what happened after that point. Am I missing something?
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« Reply #686 on: June 21, 2005, 10:34:58 PM »

arubagirl, do you remember someone posting that there was a sighting of VDS's dad at Mc Donalds at 3am?  Or know how i could search the forum for it?
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« Reply #687 on: June 21, 2005, 10:35:47 PM »

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Okay, hold on. Jv/dS and NH met the first time in C&C? Is that what the friends are saying?


That's what I gathered......


Then one of them contradicted herself and said they'd met that DAY and that Joran told them the island was dead on a Sunday night, so they were surprised to see him at C&C.


No contradiction...they said they met for the first time in the hotel casino. It was that night that they met again at C&Cs.
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« Reply #688 on: June 21, 2005, 10:35:57 PM »

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What else could those young ladies tell.


Where was the Greta question of why were not you worried when she did not come home that night? These were her roomates and best friends, right?


EXACTLY, Red. 2 different Natalee's have emerged here

ONE Natalee is the responsible person who is never missing or late to ANYTHING (that has been repeated by Dash and her mom)

SECOND Natalee now being told by her friends...saying they were not worried about her when she did not come home all night??

WHICH one is she?
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« Reply #689 on: June 21, 2005, 10:35:57 PM »

I had already heard before that natalee met him the night before at the casino and not earlier, this was something that was being said long before tonight in the MSM? Or am I crazy?
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« Reply #690 on: June 21, 2005, 10:36:32 PM »

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Okay, now I'm confused.


How is this for a theory. You are with hot guy and your close friends leave you at the bar an hour before it closes because you are having the time of your life.


I hate to say for this, but it says I am looking for a hook up.
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« Reply #691 on: June 21, 2005, 10:37:53 PM »

For those of you that may have missed it or had to run back & forth to the TV, a great friend of Scared Monkey, the Political Teen ...

Greta on Fox with Beth at the VDS's ...

http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/06/21/1758/
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« Reply #692 on: June 21, 2005, 10:38:22 PM »

"So betty that was my part of the story what i said here is the same in my statement,people are saying they are bad guys lock them up , the family is going thru a lot righnow , but what they don't know how the other families feel and how they also have a reputation and carreers etc. because when this all is over they will still be talks that were the 3 guys that had something to do with the kidnap of natalee its a small island.they don't understand the pressure we are having also, if this girl turns up dead we have a problem we were the last seen with her . I lost a lot of friends who think we had to do something with this, many of my friends supported us also brought food etc. for us at home and know we are innocent, we are innocent also we promise i would NEVER hurt anyone in anyway, i would do every everything to help find her thats what we told eveyone also , i would take a bullet to save her and bring her back to her family if i had to so would my friend also.i would never never hurt anyone i'm a very happy and social person who likes to make friends with people and not hurting them"


Who is betty?
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« Reply #693 on: June 21, 2005, 10:38:49 PM »

It seems that Urine Va Der Sloot runs his household.  He has his own car before the legal driving age.  Gambles and drinks underage.  Has an apartment outside the main home.  Either from lax parents, or parents who are afraid of him.  

Who knows what to believe from any info Greta or anyone else gets from these parents.  

Sounds to me like it is worthless to talk to the VDS parents.
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« Reply #694 on: June 21, 2005, 10:38:49 PM »

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Quote from: "Red"
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What else could those young ladies tell.


Where was the Greta question of why were not you worried when she did not come home that night? These were her roomates and best friends, right?


EXACTLY, Red. 2 different Natalee's have emerged here

ONE Natalee is the responsible person who is never missing or late to ANYTHING (that has been repeated by Dash and her mom)

SECOND Natalee now being told by her friends...saying they were not worried about her when she did not come home all night??

WHICH one is she?


I heard them say she was level headed, didn't hear them say the second part.  Do you remember the exact quote? Regardless it seems that someone could be responsible and not come back to her room, like someone had said before she was popular and her friends might have thought she was in someone elses room.
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« Reply #695 on: June 21, 2005, 10:38:49 PM »

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arubagirl, do you remember someone posting that there was a sighting of VDS's dad at Mc Donalds at 3am?  Or know how i could search the forum for it?


inquisitive - here ya go:

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i saw this on riehl world view



Posted on "The Troubling Puzzle" blog:

I'm in Mountain Brook and from the people who have recently returned from Aruba is that Van der Sloot's dad was seen at a McDonald's at 3 a.m. the night Natalee disappeared.

I don't think this has been reported in the mainstream media so hopefully this will help those of of you who are following this closely. This is my first post here and I'm posting something I think all of you might find significant.

Natalee goes missing at about 1 to 1:30 a.m. and the Van der Sloot's dad is seen at a McDonalds at 3a.m. I assume the dad has a job and would have to be at work the next day. There to me it is very suspicious.......

Posted by: samthebam | June 19, 2005 03:35 PM

interesting might explain why dad is being questioned
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« Reply #696 on: June 21, 2005, 10:39:01 PM »

Natalee's mom on CNN with Nancy Grace.  She is supporting the Aruban search.  She will not divulge the information discussed earlier with JVDS's parents.  She feels that the answers as to where her daughter is lies with those boys...as well as others.

Maybe you guys saw this, but I thought I'd post it... Confused
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« Reply #697 on: June 21, 2005, 10:39:27 PM »

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but there is a difference in the facts about whether Nat and VDS made plans to meet at C&C. E-mail says they did...friends said no.

BUT...girls do not always tell their GF's when they have made plans to "hook up" with a guy later.


Hello! Sure do! Spill all!

Can somebody tell us what they're talking about on Greta? Some of us don't have cable!!! Did she ask them about the e-mail WonderWoman posted??? I'm confused!!
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« Reply #698 on: June 21, 2005, 10:39:29 PM »

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Jorans father looks destroyed, not attogant.

To me at least.

So much pain for both families.

Joran supposedly snuck out.


I thought I also understood Greta to say that PVDS "thinks" that he got Joran up that next morning, not sure if he went to school.  Did I hear that?  Did anyone else hear that?  That maybe daddy can't really remember if he woke Joran up for school or if he went to school?


Can't remember because he is protecting his son.



Well, I thought about it at the time Greta said it and I thought about my ex-husband and what he would be like if I were out of town.  My kids are younger, but if they were older he probably wouldn't be real great about making sure they got up and probably wouldn't remember which morning was which and wouldn't be able to seperate one morning from another.  In my experience, and only MINE (not implying that all men are absent minded), men are just not as good at that sort of thing and don't have the memory about that stuff that women do.  I guess I can find his story believable.  Not sure I do believe it, but I can see a man not really knowing for sure.


i think he would remember if a desperate women was at his door looking for her child....
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« Reply #699 on: June 21, 2005, 10:39:57 PM »

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but there is a difference in the facts about whether Nat and VDS made plans to meet at C&C. E-mail says they did...friends said no.

BUT...girls do not always tell their GF's when they have made plans to "hook up" with a guy later.


Wow, IMHO, I don't think that was a good interview...raises even more questions!

We were alreadu told in statements that she had been reported meeting him 2 days earlier...even by BH.

I need excedrin!!
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