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June 21, 2005, 11:54:21 PM »
Quote from: "WonderWoman"
I believe he meant formally.....as in a conversation....
WonderWoman, was the email you recieved from Betty forwarded to Betty from someone else?
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Sometimes, in some circumstances, legitimate news organizations do pay for interviews. It depends on what type of show it is. The BBC paid Monics Lewinsky for an interview about her relationship with Bill Clinton.
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Quote from: "nikkibnurse"
ok, so WW is in aruba, correct?
And, she is not betty, correct?
AND, her friend is betty, correct?
OK...so, where is betty? wonder if she'd be willing to come log on and post her thoights....
We shouldn't even know betty.
i am wodering if we really know shit.
Probably not, because our sources are the fricken MEDIA!!! LOL
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Quote from: "Professor"
Keep this philosophy in mind the next time you either hear, or are
about to repeat a rumor.
In ancient Greece (469 - 399 BC) Socrates was widely lauded for his
wisdom. One day the great philosopher came upon an acquaintance who ran up to him excitedly and said, "Socrates, do you know what I just heard about one of your students?"
"Wait a moment," Socrates replied. "Before you tell me I'd like you to
pass a little test. It's called the Triple Filter Test."
"Triple filter?"
"That's right," Socrates continued. "Before you talk to me about my
student let's take a moment to filter what you're going to say. The first
filter is Truth. Have you made absolutely sure that what you are about to tell me is true?"
"No," the man said, "actually I just heard about it and..."
"All right," said Socrates. "So you don't really know if it's true or
not. Now let's try the second filter, the filter of Goodness. Is what you
are about to tell me about my student something good?"
"No, on the contrary..."
"So," Socrates continued, "you want to tell me something bad about him,
even though you're not certain it's true?"
The man shrugged, a little embarrassed.
Socrates continued. "You may still pass the test though, because there
is a third filter - the filter of Usefulness. Is what you want to tell me
about my student going to be useful to me?"
"No, not really"
Well," concluded Socrates, "if what you want to tell me is neither True
nor Good nor even Useful, why tell it to me at all?"
The man was defeated and ashamed. This is the reason Socrates was a
great philosopher and held in such high esteem. It also explains why he never found out that Plato was banging his wife
THat was priceless . Thank you
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June 21, 2005, 11:54:40 PM »
Quote from: "nitjus4fun"
Is there any part in the e-mail that any person couldn't write if they have been following this board..... I'm Calling BS!!!
your choice - but i tend to believe that perhaps there's a possibility those are real.
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Quote from: "absolut"
Quote from: "LilOrphan"
Quote from: "absolut"
Quote from: "nikkibnurse"
ok, so WW is in aruba, correct?
And, she is not betty, correct?
AND, her friend is betty, correct?
OK...so, where is betty? wonder if she'd be willing to come log on and post her thoights....
We shouldn't even know betty.
Can we advise Betty that she might want to 'lawyer up' soon?
Should be easy since she is an american. Read the facts.
She could be Peruvian for all I care. At this point, it seems there's a question as to whether or not she provided this as evidence to responsible parties and now there's a question as to posting it in a public place. Is it a stretch to think that with all this "vee cannot comment because zee integrity of zee case" stuff that latter bit might be a problem for Betty, and others?
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June 21, 2005, 11:54:52 PM »
Quote from: "Ting"
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maybe daddy can't really remember if he woke Joran up for school or if he went to school?...
Can't remember because he is protecting his son.
Or maybe because daddy tends to be the more lenient one, and maybe because daddy had a nightcap or two more than he usually would, since Anita was out of town...
...and he had, after all, just arrived from a long transatlantic flight. I've made the route from Amstrdam to Atlanta and it takes at least 36 hours to remember who I am, drinks or none.
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Quote from: "RB"
Quote from: "Perforator"
Quote from: "columbo"
If these emails are real, they should be turned over immediately to the FBI (not Aruban police).
Who is to say they haven't already been forwarded to the FBI?
Yep. Or better yet, the Aruban police already have them due to FBI involvement.
If they are half way intelligent and I think they are, they are still laughing at this garbage.
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June 21, 2005, 11:55:14 PM »
That was a great joke!
Interesting comment someone just made about the editor of El Diario. He had a very different attitude tonight than he had last night. Last night he seem neutral and objective. Tonight he was eager to keep the attention on JVDS. Maybe it's just about selling papers and being on TV.
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June 21, 2005, 11:56:13 PM »
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Quote from: "writenow"
[.
OK. Now I KNOW he's lying. Networks like ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, etc. DON'T PAY FOR INTERVIEWS. Maybe the tabloids do, but not networks. He said NBC offered to pay him for an interview. LYING!
Not for the news. . . but there are plenty of other tabloid type shows that probably would,indeed, pay for interviews.[/quote]
On a story like this.........they will pay. Trust me.
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June 21, 2005, 11:56:27 PM »
Quote from: "Perforator"
Quote from: "WonderWoman"
I believe he meant formally.....as in a conversation....
WonderWoman, was the email you recieved from Betty forwarded to Betty from someone else?
It was sent to Betty, WW has recieved it though unspecified means and fwds.
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Quote from: "Whodunit?"
Isn't it wierd that Papa VDS doesn't care that his 17 year old frequents the casinos? Doesn't the law say you must be 18? Isn't he supposed to uphold the laws of his country?????
Why does it matter? I haven't seen any info that indicates it was an everyday happening, anyway.
Just like even if Natalee was drunk and taking drugs by choice and picking up guys it doesn't make murder right.
I'm glad some of this information is coming out, I have been sceptical about all the demonization of Joran and bros, I live in a tacky tourist town and local guys who just want to get laid have no problem picking up hot tourist women, they don't have to kidnapp and force them.
I guess Americans never break the law????
Agreed wholly.
I would hate to see what people wonder about me?
All I know is since day one, I watched people pick apart (literally parts) Jorans life etc. Who are we to judge him and his parents. We have enough problems in our country with our own children.
People sat around labeling him because of his clothes, pictures, that unbelievable story that he was a drug pusher or pimp because he was holding money up with a goofy smile (it was only 70 bucks by the way).
I can speak ont he differences of our culture and other counties as well as some other Dtuch posters here. We are different.
I can speak to the truth that if you saw me in my work clothes, you would find me to be an innocently angelic career minded looking woman. But if you saw me in my off hours, all most people would do is label me "white trash" "wild girl" "insert any comment you like" because I have tattoos and piercings and I dress in midruff shirts and jeans and on and on and on.
Can not judge a book by it's cover. I am living proof and I always try to open peoples mind to not pass judgement until you know them, have met them or have all the facts about them.
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OK..I am desperately trying to decipher if WW's emails are made up and she's just trying to stir the big ole steaming pot 'o chit that has been brewing..OR if they actually have some creedence..I am torn and on the fence with this one and it is making my head hurt...
If by chance they are real, i am sure they have been turned over...BUT, if they havent, then i feel reaaally strange seeing them and knowing what they say...
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Quote from: "WonderWoman"
6/6/2005
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:26:12 +0000
Thank you for your wonderfull email you send me I really appreciate it.
Things are going better with me now , as you you know there has been 2 arrests i don't know if it comes because the information we gave or just another tip.They were 2 security guards for a hotel nearby the holiday inn where natalee was staying , but we don't have any further information . I would be willing to try making an Id by the police for the 2 suspects i only saw one of them in the news.My parents are doing better now , my friends parents are doing well as well. Although we are almost of the hook we still don't walk much on the streets a lot of fingers are being pointed etc. But the press Is like trying to locate us or something i don't know this morning my friend got a letter for nbc if we were willing to give an intervieuw for a very good price we did not respond to them yet , we don't know if we will give interview as yet. The local press however we won't give any interview they sad a lot of bad things about us they should be ashamed of theirselves.But for now its just from home to work for me , and in the afternoons i go by my friends house we order pizza etc. and watch the news whats going.
Anyways i have to go now , if i have any ipdates i will let you know asap. the press is all over it so i don't think you will be missing any part of it .
As for for natalees parents we did not hear or see them personally yet , the police chief askes us if we would be willing to talk to them if they wanted to talk to us . We accepted that as long they would not talk aggressive to us as they did before.
Take care , Say hi to the others and I will mail you again
I thought her mother was crying and the step father cursed at them that night they came to Jorans house
bye bye
Deepak.
Notice the contridiction (in bold)
I believe he meant formally.....as in a conversation....
this is b/s or mostly b/s to cover his ass for whatever something bad happened...he says they/both bro's had not met twittys...and what was
the something bad??? NH falling down???
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absolut - You seem to know quite a bit yourself regarding this email/letter.
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June 21, 2005, 11:57:20 PM »
Quote from: "absolut"
Quote from: "Perforator"
Quote from: "WonderWoman"
I believe he meant formally.....as in a conversation....
WonderWoman, was the email you recieved from Betty forwarded to Betty from someone else?
It was sent to Betty, WW has recieved it though unspecified means and fwds.
I think the email is legit, if it is real.
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It was sent to Betty, WW has recieved it though unspecified means and fwds.
Are you WonderWoman's spoke person?
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Quote from: "CaliGirl"
Quote from: "nancy_drew"
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All I care about at this moment homestly, is I truly believe that was probabaly the most beautiful moment I have ever seen on TV....I have always said there are many victims and have had feelings for all involved...As far as someone saying Anita did a fake or staged kiss, it is or at least I was raised in the dutch culture with giving a respectful kiss on the cheek. That was the ULTIMATE show of respect to Beth on Anita's part.
Cali, this has me weeping. Don't get FOX, the web video didn't show the kiss part. I too have been saying all along that all the parents are victims.
You captured it beautifully. I think these are ALL loving parents in a heart breaking situation. They have both lost their children. No matter what the reason that has to be the most devastating thing to happen to a parent.
I got chills when the met at the gate.
It's too damn bad warring countries can't do the same.
Thank you Nancy.
I do not cry. I am a tuff as nails kind of girl but this still has me in tears. How many people (none I can think of) come together and treat each other with so much respect and realize, they both have feelings and hurt.
If nothing ever get solved, I can at least remember the first moment of two truly classy people being human. One positive things has come about out of so many negatives.
Cali,
I was really touched by anitas genuine look of caring tonight..i thought that was exactly what i needed to see....
no matter what has happened, who is to blame, etc etc...you cannot deny, from that piece, that there are two families in pain....
Now with that said, where is kerin??
I hate to be the one to spoil a Kodak moment, but it would be really nice if Anita would take the next step and tell Joran to spill the beans.
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Quote from: "wantsanswers"
Quote from: "RB"
Quote from: "Perforator"
Quote from: "columbo"
If these emails are real, they should be turned over immediately to the FBI (not Aruban police).
Who is to say they haven't already been forwarded to the FBI?
Yep. Or better yet, the Aruban police already have them due to FBI involvement.
If they are half way intelligent and I think they are, they are still laughing at this garbage.
I don't know, wantanswers. It appears to me that there is a possibilty they are real, and what I find funny is that we really don't have verifiable fact about any of these people involved in this (other than some general information): and that includes the Holloways. All we're doing here is speculation for both sides.
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Quote from: "RichinTx"
That email is a bunch of bullcrap.
Agreed....
Who is Wonder Woman and why is she receiving emails from one of the suspects? .
Alot of you did'nt believe Dash when she first started posting....
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