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« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2014, 10:43:09 AM »

Would there be only bones after a month? 

According to this, (warning: morbid details) yes, it's possible:
26} Decomposition will continue until body is nothing but skeletal remains, which can take as little as a month in hot climates and two months in cold climates. The teeth are often the only thing left, years and centuries later, because tooth enamel is the strongest substance in the body.
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« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2014, 11:13:13 AM »

http://www.nbc29.com/story/26822378/neighbors-react-to-human-remains-believed-to-be-hannah-graham

Neighbors React to Human Remains Believed to be Hannah Graham
Posted: Oct 18, 2014 6:19 PM PST Updated: Oct 18, 2014 7:54 PM PST



ALBEMARLE COUNTY, Va (WVIR) -

Searchers found what is believed to be the remains of Hannah graham at noon Saturday on an abandoned property off of old Lynchburg road in Albemarle County.

Road blocks are set up along Old Lynchburg Road between Red Hill Road and Plank Road. Dozens of Albemarle County police cruisers set those up at every entrance to the area Saturday afternoon.

Police officers only let through law enforcement vehicles and residents who live in those neighborhoods. Officers checked drivers' IDs to make sure people passing through actually live in the blocked off areas.

Lori Hamilton lives just doorsteps from where police say the remains were found. She tells NBC29 her family noticed something unusual in the area in the past few days.

My husband started smelling things two days ago and saw vultures. And yesterday he was like Lori it really smells bad outside, lets shut the windows,” said Hamilton.

 



IRT your bolded sentence, if there was nothing but skeleton, how would it be putting off such odor. That doesn't make sense. The odor should be gone by now.
Would there be only bones after a month? 

To answer my own questions....maybe


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« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2014, 11:27:58 AM »

Thanks Darla I was thinking the same thing. The first report said she was found in a shallow grave and dogs had hit on the area she was found at. That's way they went back.
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« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2014, 11:34:32 AM »

If you missed yesterday's news conference, it can be found here:

http://www.timesdispatch.com/news/state-regional/search-for-hannah-graham-suspended-after-discovery-saturday/article_a0a745f9-3174-5cbd-be2a-b4330149ec6b.html
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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2014, 11:42:55 AM »


I had speculated that maybe Jesse Matthew had provided the location of Hannah Graham's remains in a plea deal with investigators.  However ... according to the Chesterfield Sheriff’s Department sergeant in the following interview there was no plea deal. I am thankful.  Matthew is evil personified.  He deserves the death penalty.

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Hannah Graham searcher says ‘God wanted’ them to find what they found
OCTOBER 18, 2014


The Chesterfield Sheriff’s Department sergeant who discovered human remains while searching for missing University of Virginia student Hannah Graham said he believed God wanted them to find what they found. Sgt. Dale Terry said his five-person team had finished their search mission near Walnut Creek Park around noon Saturday when something came over him to check nearby properties.

“I don’t know how else to explain it,” he said. “Something inside me just told me to continue to look.”

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http://wtvr.com/2014/10/18/searcher-who-found-hannah-graham-remains-says-god-wanted-them-to-find-what-they-found/
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« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2014, 11:58:45 AM »

HANNAH GRAHAM

Hannah Graham searcher says ‘God wanted’ them to find what they found
OCTOBER 18, 2014


<snipped>

It was behind a vacant home, in a dried-up creek bed, Terry said he found a skull and bones, along with a pair of tight, dark-colored pants.

Terry said the remains were not buried and found not far from the road.

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http://wtvr.com/2014/10/18/searcher-who-found-hannah-graham-remains-says-god-wanted-them-to-find-what-they-found/

MORGAN HARRINGTON

Virginia farmer who found remains of '09 murder victim wonders if next grim discovery awaits
Published October 07, 2014


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On the morning of Jan. 26, 2010, Bass discovered the skeletal remains of 20-year-old college student Morgan Harrington while riding his tractor to inspect fences on his farm. Harrington had disappeared three months earlier, on Oct. 17, 2009, after leaving a Metallica concert on the UVA campus in Charlottesville. Her badly decomposed remains, which Bass first mistook for a deer, were found 200 yards off a public road on his property, 10 miles outside of Charlottesville, he said.

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/10/07/virginia-farmer-who-found-remains-in-0-wonders-if-vast-land-holds-next-grim/
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« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2014, 12:09:22 PM »

Would there be only bones after a month? 

According to this, (warning: morbid details) yes, it's possible:
26} Decomposition will continue until body is nothing but skeletal remains, which can take as little as a month in hot climates and two months in cold climates. The teeth are often the only thing left, years and centuries later, because tooth enamel is the strongest substance in the body.
http://www.anomalies-unlimited.com/Death/Stages.html

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« Reply #27 on: October 19, 2014, 12:10:03 PM »

Human Remains Found in Search for Missing UVA Student Hannah Graham

Posted October 18, 2014 by Scared Monkeys

http://scaredmonkeys.com/2014/10/18/human-remains-found-in-search-for-missing-uva-student-hannah-graham/#comments
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« Reply #28 on: October 19, 2014, 12:43:31 PM »

http://insidecville.com/blog/exclusive-where-hannah-was-found/
EXCLUSIVE: WHERE HANNAH WAS FOUND
POSTED ON OCT 19, 2014 IN BLOG, CITY, NATION, RADIO, STATE, TV, WORLD
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« Reply #29 on: October 19, 2014, 12:48:12 PM »

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Neal Augenstein @AugensteinWTOP  ·  23m 23 minutes ago
This is where remains were found in #HannahGraham search, says @coybarefoot http://insidecville.com/blog/exclusive-where-hannah-was-found/

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« Reply #30 on: October 19, 2014, 01:06:59 PM »

http://insidecville.com/blog/exclusive-where-hannah-was-found/
EXCLUSIVE: WHERE HANNAH WAS FOUND
POSTED ON OCT 19, 2014 IN BLOG, CITY, NATION, RADIO, STATE, TV, WORLD





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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2014, 03:45:42 PM »


Hannah Graham searcher says ‘God wanted’ them to find what they found
OCTOBER 18, 2014


The Chesterfield Sheriff’s Department sergeant who discovered human remains while searching for missing University of Virginia student Hannah Graham said he believed God wanted them to find what they found. Sgt. Dale Terry said his five-person team had finished their search mission near Walnut Creek Park around noon Saturday when something came over him to check nearby properties.

“I don’t know how else to explain it,” he said. “Something inside me just told me to continue to look.”

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Video:
http://wtvr.com/2014/10/18/searcher-who-found-hannah-graham-remains-says-god-wanted-them-to-find-what-they-found/


When the sighting of a flock of buzzards on October 5th at 3193 Old Lynchburg Road is considered ... why was the tip of October 6th not followed up on?  If it were not for Sgt. Dale Terry gut instinct yesterday ....

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EXCLUSIVE: WHERE HANNAH WAS FOUND
POSTED ON OCT 19, 2014

3193 Old Lynchburg Road


The skeletal remains of missing University of Virginia student Hannah Graham are believed to have been found here, at 3193 Old Lynchburg Road— discovered in a dry creek bed behind this empty house, five weeks to the day since she was last seen.

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Another source with whom I have spoken just this morning, confirms that on Sunday October 5, a long-time resident of Albemarle County drove by this residence and noticed an unusual flurry of buzzards behind the home.

Earlier the following morning, Monday October 6, this same man stopped his car at this residence and looked around. The buzzards had gone. This man knew the home to be a rental that was not currently lived in.

He walked the property, but only briefly since he felt odd that he was trespassing. He got back in his car and left.

Later that same morning, at exactly 9:45am October 6, he called the tip line, reported the address— 3193 Old Lynchburg Road— and said he’d noticed the buzzards. He also reported that he was concerned the property had not yet been adequately searched since the home was not currently lived in.

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Jesse Matthew, the 32-year old man last seen with Hannah Graham the night she went missing, was arrested near Galveston, Texas on Wednesday, September 24, and is currently in the Charlottesville-Albemarle Regional Jail. Virginia State Police have confirmed a forensic link between Mr. Matthew and the abduction and murder of Morgan Harrington, the 20-year-old Virginia Tech student who was last seen in Charlottesville on October 17, 2009.

Morgan’s skeletal remains were found 100 days later, on a farm south of Charlottesville— just about five miles from 3193 Old Lynchburg Road.

Jesse Matthew grew up in this rural part of Albemarle County south of Charlottesville. His mom’s house is just up the road, about 4 miles from where the remains of Hannah Graham are believed to have been found.


http://insidecville.com/blog/exclusive-where-hannah-was-found/


Coy Barefoot is a best-selling and award-winning author and investigative journalist. He is the host and producer of Inside Charlottesville, a radio and TV program. He also teaches history at the University of Virginia. You can learn more at coybarefoot.com.
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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2014, 03:48:15 PM »

EXCLUSIVE: WHERE HANNAH WAS FOUND
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Another source with whom I have spoken just this morning, confirms that on Sunday October 5, a long-time resident of Albemarle County drove by this residence and noticed an unusual flurry of buzzards behind the home.

Earlier the following morning, Monday October 6, this same man stopped his car at this residence and looked around. The buzzards had gone. This man knew the home to be a rental that was not currently lived in.

He walked the property, but only briefly since he felt odd that he was trespassing. He got back in his car and left.

Later that same morning, at exactly 9:45am October 6, he called the tip line, reported the address— 3193 Old Lynchburg Road— and said he’d noticed the buzzards. He also reported that he was concerned the property had not yet been adequately searched since the home was not currently lived in.
 
http://insidecville.com/blog/exclusive-where-hannah-was-found/
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« Reply #33 on: October 19, 2014, 03:55:44 PM »

Oops sorry.. While I was posting the same thing must have been posted... Feel free to delete my post.

I think the delay in following up may just be about the large number of tips and weeding through them and following up on all. They may have been sent to this general area because of the tip.

Also, in hindsight it seems obvious but I'm assuming buzzards are also attracted to animal remains. Also pinpointing the area the the birds were going to days later.
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« Reply #34 on: October 19, 2014, 03:58:25 PM »

Samantha

It is said that "Great minds think alike".  It is also said "Fools seldom differ".  Which is it?

I hope you are having a good Sunday.

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« Reply #35 on: October 19, 2014, 04:02:02 PM »

Oops sorry.. While I was posting the same thing must have been posted... Feel free to delete my post.

I think the delay in following up may just be about the large number of tips and weeding through them and following up on all. They may have been sent to this general area because of the tip.

Also, in hindsight it seems obvious but I'm assuming buzzards are also attracted to animal remains. Also pinpointing the area the the birds were going to days later.


The tip was reported one day following the buzzard sighting.  Nevertheless ... your explanation pertaining to why there was no immediate investigative reponse makes sense.  There must have been countless tips phoned in.

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« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2014, 04:36:37 PM »

very sad news, i was holding out hope.......

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Morgan’s skeletal remains were found 100 days later, on a farm south of Charlottesville— just about five miles from 3193 Old Lynchburg Road.
Jesse Matthew grew up in this rural part of Albemarle County south of Charlottesville. His mom’s house is just up the road, about 4 miles from where the remains of Hannah Graham are believed to have been found.
http://insidecville.com/blog/exclusive-where-hannah-was-found/

wonder if the PT addy where JM use to live, is his moms house, its 5mile from
Hannah Graham remains anyone know her name? dont want to post prop owners
name/s, as it might not be his mother
use the 2480 Ponderosa Trl, addy, there is a drop down for streets
http://gisweb.albemarle.org/GISWEB/Welcome.aspx

the prop with the coords (see map) next to the PT prop, (outlined) was
once owned  by the owners of the PT property, where JM use to live
map i hope, Albemarle County GIS map
http://gisweb.albemarle.org/Map/Viewer.aspx?state=899420386975

property once owned by the PT owners is 23 acres
2476 Poplar Dr, Charlottesville, VA 22903
PT addy
2480 Ponderosa Trail, Charlottesville, VA 22903
Gmap
https://goo.gl/maps/u7jrk
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map link showing where the remains were found and the PT addy

Hannah Graham remains
3193 Old Lynchburg Rd, North Garden, VA 22959

DBA Jesse L Matthew Jr
2480 Ponderosa Trl
Charlottesville, Virginia 22903-7829

Morgan Dana Harrington remains
Anchorage Farm Rd
https://goo.gl/maps/VaQ7S
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EXCLUSIVE: WHERE HANNAH WAS FOUND
POSTED ON OCT 19, 2014

3193 Old Lynchburg Road


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Virginia State Police have confirmed a forensic link between Mr. Matthew and the abduction and murder of Morgan Harrington, the 20-year-old Virginia Tech student who was last seen in Charlottesville on October 17, 2009.

Morgan’s skeletal remains were found 100 days later, on a farm south of Charlottesville— just about five miles from 3193 Old Lynchburg Road.

Jesse Matthew grew up in this rural part of Albemarle County south of Charlottesville. His mom’s house is just up the road, about 4 miles from where the remains of Hannah Graham are believed to have been found.

http://insidecville.com/blog/exclusive-where-hannah-was-found/


Connect the dots.  Jesse Matthew is busted on so many levels.

Janet

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Cops Say Whoever Killed Morgan Harrington Knew Tricky Farm Area
Feb. 4, 2010


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Anchorage Farm is in Albemarie County about 10 miles south of where Harrington was last seen a a Metallica concert.

Virginia State Police Lt. Joe Rader asked at a press conference today for people who live in the area to alert investigators to whoever was familiar with the roads and terrain there.

Rader said investigators believe the person or persons responsibile for Harrington's murder was familiar with the area on Anchorage Farm where the 20-year-old's body was found.

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/morgan-harringtons-killer-knew-obstacles-farm-area/story?id=9749253


Neighbors React to Human Remains Believed to be Hannah Graham
October 19, 2014


Searchers found what is believed to be the remains of Hannah Graham at noon Saturday on an abandoned property off of old Lynchburg Road in Albemarle County.

Road blocks were set up along Old Lynchburg Road between Red Hill Road and Plank Road. Dozens of Albemarle County police cruisers set those up at every entrance to the area Saturday afternoon.

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A neighbor who requested not to go on camera told NBC29 that Jesse Matthew lived in the old Lynchburg Road area about six years ago and was familiar with the roads and rural stretches of that part of Albemarle County.

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http://www.nbc29.com/story/26822378/neighbors-react-to-human-remains-believed-to-be-hannah-graham
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« Reply #38 on: October 19, 2014, 05:15:05 PM »


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map link showing where the remains were found and the PT addy

Hannah Graham remains
3193 Old Lynchburg Rd, North Garden, VA 22959

DBA Jesse L Matthew Jr
2480 Ponderosa Trl
Charlottesville, Virginia 22903-7829

Morgan Dana Harrington remains
Anchorage Farm Rd
https://goo.gl/maps/VaQ7S


Thanks cw618.  I love the map.  It's simple but says it all.  Simple is where it is at.  I must be getting old.

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« Reply #39 on: October 19, 2014, 05:20:16 PM »

very sad news, i was holding out hope.......

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Morgan’s skeletal remains were found 100 days later, on a farm south of Charlottesville— just about five miles from 3193 Old Lynchburg Road.
Jesse Matthew grew up in this rural part of Albemarle County south of Charlottesville. His mom’s house is just up the road, about 4 miles from where the remains of Hannah Graham are believed to have been found.
http://insidecville.com/blog/exclusive-where-hannah-was-found/

wonder if the PT addy where JM use to live, is his moms house, its 5mile from
Hannah Graham remains anyone know her name? dont want to post prop owners
name/s, as it might not be his mother
use the 2480 Ponderosa Trl, addy, there is a drop down for streets
http://gisweb.albemarle.org/GISWEB/Welcome.aspx

the prop with the coords (see map) next to the PT prop, (outlined) was
once owned  by the owners of the PT property, where JM use to live
map i hope, Albemarle County GIS map
http://gisweb.albemarle.org/Map/Viewer.aspx?state=899420386975

property once owned by the PT owners is 23 acres
2476 Poplar Dr, Charlottesville, VA 22903
PT addy
2480 Ponderosa Trail, Charlottesville, VA 22903
Gmap
https://goo.gl/maps/u7jrk
-------------------------   
map link showing where the remains were found and the PT addy

Hannah Graham remains
3193 Old Lynchburg Rd, North Garden, VA 22959

DBA Jesse L Matthew Jr
2480 Ponderosa Trl
Charlottesville, Virginia 22903-7829

Morgan Dana Harrington remains
Anchorage Farm Rd
https://goo.gl/maps/VaQ7S


Thanks CW for the maps.  They always said the person who killed Morgan had to know the area. 

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