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« Reply #100 on: June 22, 2005, 09:38:32 AM »

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Hey Absolut, thank you for finding and posting the other two emails on the thread...THat'll be a big help for those who want to read them!


I think is great if people want them to debate them, but if they need the backstory how they got here and the context in which they were posted, those 20 pages can't really be summarized objectively by anyone. It would be best to read the backstory for yourself and draw your own conclusions.


definitelt absolut....no one wants to wake up rehashing all of what was
already picked apart for hours....read it, right, and come back with questions.IMHFO
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« Reply #101 on: June 22, 2005, 09:38:56 AM »

I would think that out of all of them that croes is going to tel them authorities the deal..cause he would not be charged with the murder/kidnappin etc...he would get aiding and abedding for going along with the story and prob get 2 years or something........ so he has more of a life to save here..................
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« Reply #102 on: June 22, 2005, 09:39:08 AM »

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Hey Absolut, thank you for finding and posting the other two emails on the thread...THat'll be a big help for those who want to read them!


I think is great if people want them to debate them, but if they need the backstory how they got here and the context in which they were posted, those 20 pages can't really be summarized objectively by anyone. It would be best to read the backstory for yourself and draw your own conclusions.


I agree, should we post which threads and which page it originally started on that separate thread?  Do you happen to know?  I thought it was somewhere in the 30's... Confused
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« Reply #103 on: June 22, 2005, 09:39:30 AM »

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I would think that out of all of them that croes is going to tel them authorities the deal..cause he would not be charged with the murder/kidnappin etc...he would get aiding and abedding for going along with the story and prob get 2 years or something........ so he has more of a life to save here..................


That is if croes did not assist in that........i should have siad that in the beginnin..........i just think that croes knew about it
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« Reply #104 on: June 22, 2005, 09:39:52 AM »

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New to posts here but have been following for some time. After reading Wonderwomans email post, some issues came to mind re the authenticity of the email. I have noticed the following and wonder what your thoughts are: 1) police was spelled with the American spelling. Isn't it spelled polis in Aruba? Why would an Arubian spell it differently? 2). Van der Sloot is spelled VANDER SLOOT in the email. If this was your friend, wouldn't you spell his name right? 3) References to "God". Don't the Surinam practice Winti, Hindu and Muslim religions in most cases.  
Just a thought. Sorry if I'm off base


Hmmmm I believe the email was from Deepak. I also believe that was his "made up" story from the beginning. He told the security guard in jail that he LIED about the Holiday Inn drop off. As I read the email, I could tell that it was a West Indian that wrote it. lol It was certain things that he said.


But Deepak is not a West Indian.


What is a west indian?

Deepak is a surinamer.  Suriname was a colony of the Dutch West Indische Matschaapij (sp).  That is about as West and Indian as you get.  He is a native Dutch speaker and English is his second language.  He is more likely to have a Dutch lilt than an English one but he is a west indian of east indian ethnic origin.


A West Indians are people from the West Indies....
 

Not that it matters that much but where is this list from and why does it include Guyana which is just next to Suriname and not Suriname or for that matter French Guyana.  Is it because nobody knows Suriname exists?  Do you have to speak English to be a west indian.  If so why are aruba and curacao and puerto rico and martinique on this list and why are Honduras and Belize on this list but not Venezuela and Panama or Colombia the country where Cartagena de las Indias is located?  I think you list is inaccurate.  we have the east indies and the west indies.  the west and east part are as viewed from europe, which colonized these areas and named them.


Guyana is located in the South America, however they speak with a caribbean accent and they cook caribbean food. They also listen to Caribbean music (soca). The is from http://www.caribbeantravel.com/map_full.html   ....YES Cubans, Dominicans, and Puerto Ricans ARE from the caribeen/west indies. My family is from Panama, Trinidad, Barbados and Costa Rica oh and America. In my family, we have west indian accents and some also speak Spanish. Panama is in Central America. We call people from the Caribbean "West Indians" The Caribbean is full of what we call EAST INDIANS.

Aruba Facts:
The island of Aruba is part of the West  Indies in the Caribbean Sea, and lies about 12 degrees north of  the equator, approximately 29km (18 miles) off the Paraguanį Peninsula of Venezuela. One  of the Lesser Antilles islands, Aruba is about 30 km (19 miles) long and

about 8 km (5 miles)  wide with an area of 193 sq km (75 sq miles). The island's  population is about 89,000. The capital is Oranjestad named  after the Dutch House of Orange.
http://www.visitaruba.com/facts/general/geography.html
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« Reply #105 on: June 22, 2005, 09:42:26 AM »

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Yes Mrs. Twitty and the stepmother (a much more genuine person) and  were all sweetness and smiles yesterday, no demanding, no tantrums, no name calling, everybody cooperating.   Do they know something or have they changed antidepressants?


Thank you Dr. Iquitos for that Prozac moment. That was my first laugh of the day.
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« Reply #106 on: June 22, 2005, 09:43:26 AM »

Use search people.  If you tell it to search by POST it will pull up all of them that way and you don't have to look for page numbers.  It really is faster.
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« Reply #107 on: June 22, 2005, 09:44:10 AM »

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Hey Absolut, thank you for finding and posting the other two emails on the thread...THat'll be a big help for those who want to read them!


I think is great if people want them to debate them, but if they need the backstory how they got here and the context in which they were posted, those 20 pages can't really be summarized objectively by anyone. It would be best to read the backstory for yourself and draw your own conclusions.


I agree, should we post which threads and which page it originally started on that separate thread?  Do you happen to know?  I thought it was somewhere in the 30's... Confused


Because of the way it came out in pieces at first. I found the best way to track it was to to go to memberlist, then go to wonderwomans profile and view all post. Then trackback from there were the first snippet was posted.
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« Reply #108 on: June 22, 2005, 09:45:32 AM »

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Sorry - misquote - the Aunt said JVD and his father were the last to see her - (I shouldn't have included "alive" - she didn't say that), but I honestly think she said JDV's father saw her.  I know there was conversation last night about Natalee coming to JDV's house or something - couldn't follow all of it.  Anyone with information?


We had been led to beleive here, before the greta extravaganza, that joran had taken natale home that night.  that was not confirmed by the greta show, not even implied.  in fact the old man said he did not know joran left that night, and did not "recall" whether he had awakend him the next morning or if he went to school the next day.  the dad must have had one heineken too many after he picked joran up at mikkie dee at 11 (if joran was at the casino why did he meet dad at mikkie dee?}. The elder v/d s He did not to notice when Deepak? came for him and he snuck out.  One of the problems with the email is that it mention stuff we did not know for sure until last night like eyewitness accounts of how/where Joran (at the casino, that same night), the rumoured sighting of Joran's dad at the parking lot of mikkie dee (at wrong hour),  etc.  So it is almost as if the email and the greta show are coordinated.   whoever wrote it, it is a peice of work.  

Does anybody recall if we know if Joran went to school that day after?  I remember rumors that he came to school with scratches and bruises on his face.  Did he even go home first?  Was he on the schoolbus.  This is important to the timeline.
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« Reply #109 on: June 22, 2005, 09:45:47 AM »

good morning all!  just got here.  i've been scanning and notice something about eamils?  can you tell me where i can find them so i can read the "backstory" or someone can pm me with a rundown?   thanks bunches!   Very Happy
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« Reply #110 on: June 22, 2005, 09:46:27 AM »

Prof. and Absolut,
the first time the full lenght email was published was on page 35.  Do you think I should list any earlier pages to start on?  I will revise my post on the other thread with what page you guys think I should direct the readers to start....
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« Reply #111 on: June 22, 2005, 09:46:37 AM »

Tim Miller from the Texas group is being interviewed on CNN. He said they are organizing and making plans to start the "big search" on Friday. They are working with the authorities.
They are bringing 4 of the nations best dogs 'trained for this kind of search'.
They are bringing divers and side sonar, and implied the Aruban divers haven't gotten wet yet.
His first plans when he lands in Aruba is to give Beth a big understanding hug, since he knows what she is going through.
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« Reply #112 on: June 22, 2005, 09:47:21 AM »

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Prof. and Absolut,
the first time the full lenght email was published was on page 35.  Do you think I should list any earlier pages to start on?  I will revise my post on the other thread with what page you guys think I should direct the readers to start....


I think in fairness it has to start at the snippet and the conversation to get the rest out.
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« Reply #113 on: June 22, 2005, 09:47:28 AM »

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good morning all!  just got here.  i've been scanning and notice something about eamils?  can you tell me where i can find them so i can read the "backstory" or someone can pm me with a rundown?   thanks bunches!   Very Happy


check the wonder woman thread.
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« Reply #114 on: June 22, 2005, 09:47:46 AM »

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and th mother slipped with some more infomation about joran saying that he left nat on the beach hysterical/sleeping so now that is actually confirmed...so the story yet, changes again, so where do they go from there ya know..........


I thought that Anita VDS wasn't allowed to discuss the case with Joran, when she visited him. So, this is clear proof that she violated that rule. I wonder if he discussions with Joran in prison were monitored. If not, then this is an opportunity to cook up a believable story and to pass information along to him on the progress of the investigation.


Joran could have told Anita that prior to him being detained.


Yes, but this version of the story came about AFTER he was detained and after the old story started to fall apart.


Since we have never learned officially what the story is and what has been said, you have no way of knowing that. I suspect that the visits between Mrs. VDS and Joran are strictly monitored.
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« Reply #115 on: June 22, 2005, 09:48:17 AM »

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good morning all!  just got here.  i've been scanning and notice something about eamils?  can you tell me where i can find them so i can read the "backstory" or someone can pm me with a rundown?   thanks bunches!   Very Happy


Go to search.  Type in wonderwoman for the user.  I put the * just in case I mispelled it.

Then for forum say Natalee hollowy

In the lower left corner click on POSTS.  and it will brink hers up.  

If you want to read a specific post it takes you directly to the page and the post and you don't lose any time.

It really, really does work.
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« Reply #116 on: June 22, 2005, 09:50:03 AM »

Morning all.. Quick question.. sorry if it was asked already.. I too watched Greta last night...the 2 girls that were on with her from MBHS.. was one of them DASH?? If so.. which one??  Nice girls they were!  Thanks!
Oh..I'll buy beer too...lol
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« Reply #117 on: June 22, 2005, 09:50:55 AM »

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Morning all.. Quick question.. sorry if it was asked already.. I too watched Greta last night...the 2 girls that were on with her from MBHS.. was one of them DASH?? If so.. which one??  Nice girls they were!  Thanks!
Oh..I'll buy beer too...lol


Neither were dash, and some have found that their accounts do not match dash or previously held "truths"
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« Reply #118 on: June 22, 2005, 09:51:33 AM »

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New to posts here but have been following for some time. After reading Wonderwomans email post, some issues came to mind re the authenticity of the email. I have noticed the following and wonder what your thoughts are: 1) police was spelled with the American spelling. Isn't it spelled polis in Aruba? Why would an Arubian spell it differently? 2). Van der Sloot is spelled VANDER SLOOT in the email. If this was your friend, wouldn't you spell his name right? 3) References to "God". Don't the Surinam practice Winti, Hindu and Muslim religions in most cases.  
Just a thought. Sorry if I'm off base


Hmmmm I believe the email was from Deepak. I also believe that was his "made up" story from the beginning. He told the security guard in jail that he LIED about the Holiday Inn drop off. As I read the email, I could tell that it was a West Indian that wrote it. lol It was certain things that he said.


But Deepak is not a West Indian.


What is a west indian?

Deepak is a surinamer.  Suriname was a colony of the Dutch West Indische Matschaapij (sp).  That is about as West and Indian as you get.  He is a native Dutch speaker and English is his second language.  He is more likely to have a Dutch lilt than an English one but he is a west indian of east indian ethnic origin.

Point taken.  Sorry to have implied anything, but I'd have considered Surinam South American before it being West Indian.

In the context of the original post, it was said that the hoax e-mail might be authentic because it contains things only a "West Indian" would say.  In retrospect, I cannot dispute that Deepak would have been in the Carribean (all his life?) to have picked up these subtle traits.

I stand corrected.
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« Reply #119 on: June 22, 2005, 09:51:45 AM »

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Morning all.. Quick question.. sorry if it was asked already.. I too watched Greta last night...the 2 girls that were on with her from MBHS.. was one of them DASH?? If so.. which one??  Nice girls they were!  Thanks!
Oh..I'll buy beer too...lol


Neither were dash, and some have found that their accounts do not match dash or previously held "truths"


Thank you Absolut..!!
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