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« Reply #1460 on: June 22, 2005, 07:20:49 PM »

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2 questions:
1. What was the initials on the white security shirt that was found on that first search? and,
2. Was the other item confirmed to be a piece of foam with teeth marks, or was that just another rumor?


1.  VGB - explored in full somewhere in this forum

2.  That's what it was reported to be - personally, I didn't waste time learning about those items.


I don't know anything about X but would foam keep you from grinding your teeth, I have seen on here that is an issue.


i saw natalee s teeth in a pic, very nice, im sure there is a dental record somewhere and they may have that on hand....
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« Reply #1461 on: June 22, 2005, 07:22:20 PM »

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It just gets curiouser and curiouser, doesn't it Az?


Sure does.  I'm familiar with Casino security/surveillance.  With the ever changing stories and the festivities on the island that night, I've just about turned 180 degrees from my initial gut reaction in this case.
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« Reply #1462 on: June 22, 2005, 07:22:51 PM »

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2 questions:
1. What was the initials on the white security shirt that was found on that first search? and,
2. Was the other item confirmed to be a piece of foam with teeth marks, or was that just another rumor?


1.  VGB - explored in full somewhere in this forum

2.  That's what it was reported to be - personally, I didn't waste time learning about those items.


I don't know anything about X but would foam keep you from grinding your teeth, I have seen on here that is an issue.


I thought it was thought the foam was used to keep from swallowing her tongue, hence the teeth imprints.
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« Reply #1463 on: June 22, 2005, 07:23:17 PM »

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It just gets curiouser and curiouser, doesn't it Az?


Sure does.  I'm familiar with Casino security/surveillance.  With the ever changing stories and the festivities on the island that night, I've just about turned 180 degrees from my initial gut reaction in this case.


what is your feelin now?
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« Reply #1464 on: June 22, 2005, 07:23:37 PM »

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Okay, the security guards in black t-shirts were from the "first concert night," which featured Wyclef. The photos from the beach during the day had guys in what looked like white security t-shirts. But I don't think there was a concert of any type during the day event, so who knows what entity those white t-shirt guys were working for.

I believe it would have been the 2nd "concert night" that took place on Natalee's last night in Aruba. With Lauryn Hill and Boyz II Men. Those photos are here:

http://www.kikotakiko.com/gallery1.php?album=228&item=Photogallery&bekijk=0

I notice that Wyclef is listed as a guest star at that event too. The only security guard I could find in this last set of photos is a guy standing way back from the crowd wearing a white UNIFORM (not t-shirt) and a badge. I think that photo is on page 2, 2/3 of the way down (security guard is in the background).

Maybe the guy(s) in black security t-shirts are part of Wyclef's personal security/entourage?


LMAO Kerin! LArissa was at the concert! Hmmmm wonder if Joran went?
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« Reply #1465 on: June 22, 2005, 07:24:55 PM »

Okay, I'm beating a dead horse, but I did find a photo showing what appears to be a security guard in a full black outfit on the last night of the Soul Music Beach Festival. See the guy standing in front of the stage in the 2nd picture:

http://www.kikotakiko.com/gallery1.php?album=227&item=Photogallery
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« Reply #1466 on: June 22, 2005, 07:25:23 PM »

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It just gets curiouser and curiouser, doesn't it Az?


Sure does.  I'm familiar with Casino security/surveillance.  With the ever changing stories and the festivities on the island that night, I've just about turned 180 degrees from my initial gut reaction in this case.


Noted, not all is as it appears in the moonlight is my feeling.  Even before Jennifer Wilbanks  (Shocked), I am always wary of people who are reportedly reputable beyond reproach.  Not saying she is or isn't, just saying it makes me nervous.  I like balance.
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« Reply #1467 on: June 22, 2005, 07:25:34 PM »

Not sure if this has been posted here yet but transcript and video available for Greta's interview with Natalee's frends from last nights show, "On the Record".

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1175 - posted on main page.

Just in case some thought they heard some things they want to go back over.
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« Reply #1468 on: June 22, 2005, 07:25:55 PM »

Are there any NEW developments?  I just got back from work.  Thanks Shocked
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« Reply #1469 on: June 22, 2005, 07:25:57 PM »

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does he have another shirt??????


No...and we all want to know why  Smile


Does anyone else remember a quote from one of natalee's friends where they said they went to a website and saw joran at carlos and charlies wearing the same clothes?

Btw those photos aren't from the night in question are they?


I've been trying to catch up but am still behind... but in regards to the date, I pulled up the properties for the Joran and Steve photos from C&C.  I noticed the link includes the following:  "Maart2005/ThursdayCC"

Joran:
http://gallery.magic965.com/albums/userpics/Maart2005/ThursdayCC/Pt1%20%287%29.JPG

Steve:
http://gallery.magic965.com/albums/userpics/Maart2005/ThursdayCC/Pt2%20%288%29.JPG
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« Reply #1470 on: June 22, 2005, 07:26:28 PM »

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Not sure if this has been posted here yet but transcript and video available for Greta's interview with Natalee's frends from last nights show, "On the Record".

http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1175 - posted on main page.

Just in case some thought they heard some things they want to go back over.


Thank you RED!
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« Reply #1471 on: June 22, 2005, 07:27:27 PM »

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I wonder whatever happened to Natalee's key to her room....and one would assume she carried what all girls carry; a purse of some sort. Maybe?


I have been curious about the room key issue as well.  It has been my experience when traveling with similar groups that 2 keys are issued per room.  After seeing the roommates on TV yesterday, if this is the case, the girl that left C&C's at 12:00 would most likely have had a key, so who would have had the other?


Every time I've stayed anywhere, I've found you can request an extra key, if they didn't already give a key to each adult.  I assume that's the case here:  They either each had a key or requested an extra.  

The key would have fit in the pocket of her jeans skirt, as would a few dollars cash.  I was surprised also that she didn't take her purse, but it was found in her room with all her stuff in it -- even the bulk of her money.

I imagine she didn't take much money with her to C&C's.  As Dash told me, no one planned to purchase many drinks at C&C's because it was free at the hotel.
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« Reply #1472 on: June 22, 2005, 07:29:09 PM »

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I wonder whatever happened to Natalee's key to her room....and one would assume she carried what all girls carry; a purse of some sort. Maybe?


I have been curious about the room key issue as well.  It has been my experience when traveling with similar groups that 2 keys are issued per room.  After seeing the roommates on TV yesterday, if this is the case, the girl that left C&C's at 12:00 would most likely have had a key, so who would have had the other?


Every time I've stayed anywhere, I've found you can request an extra key, if they didn't already give a key to each adult.  I assume that's the case here:  They either each had a key or requested an extra.  

The key would have fit in the pocket of her jeans skirt, as would a few dollars cash.  I was surprised also that she didn't take her purse, but it was found in her room with all her stuff in it -- even the bulk of her money.

I imagine she didn't take much money with her to C&C's.  As Dash told me, no one planned to purchase many drinks at C&C's because it was free at the hotel.


But her ID and room key were not in her stuff?
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« Reply #1473 on: June 22, 2005, 07:29:12 PM »

More photos of possible security in black: 2nd to last photo here -

http://www.kikotakiko.com/gallery1.php?album=227&item=Photogallery&bekijk=5
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« Reply #1474 on: June 22, 2005, 07:29:39 PM »

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Okay, the security guards in black t-shirts were from the "first concert night," which featured Wyclef. The photos from the beach during the day had guys in what looked like white security t-shirts. But I don't think there was a concert of any type during the day event, so who knows what entity those white t-shirt guys were working for.

I believe it would have been the 2nd "concert night" that took place on Natalee's last night in Aruba. With Lauryn Hill and Boyz II Men. Those photos are here:

http://www.kikotakiko.com/gallery1.php?album=228&item=Photogallery&bekijk=0

I notice that Wyclef is listed as a guest star at that event too. The only security guard I could find in this last set of photos is a guy standing way back from the crowd wearing a white UNIFORM (not t-shirt) and a badge. I think that photo is on page 2, 2/3 of the way down (security guard is in the background).

Maybe the guy(s) in black security t-shirts are part of Wyclef's personal security/entourage?


LMAO Kerin! LArissa was at the concert! Hmmmm wonder if Joran went?

Yeah I am wondering that too! Don't you feel like you almost know Larissa we have seen her so much??
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« Reply #1475 on: June 22, 2005, 07:29:49 PM »

guys/gals i`m off  G`night all see you later byeee Wink
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« Reply #1476 on: June 22, 2005, 07:30:46 PM »

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guys/gals i`m off  G`night all see you later byeee Wink


Night Hannie
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« Reply #1477 on: June 22, 2005, 07:31:06 PM »

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2 questions:
1. What was the initials on the white security shirt that was found on that first search? and,
2. Was the other item confirmed to be a piece of foam with teeth marks, or was that just another rumor?


1.  VGB - explored in full somewhere in this forum

2.  That's what it was reported to be - personally, I didn't waste time learning about those items.


I don't know anything about X but would foam keep you from grinding your teeth, I have seen on here that is an issue.


i saw natalee s teeth in a pic, very nice, im sure there is a dental record somewhere and they may have that on hand....


Is perhaps what JVS said true, that the brother's dropped  him off at home, maybe due to the fact that he had school and exams the next day.  The brothers would take Natalee back to her hotel?  And JVS doesn't know what happened after they dropped him off at home.

Why is Natalee's mother saying there will be more arrested or questioned?  And if she knows that so does Greta.

I think that email is a farce come on...all those facts are known, nothing that the monkey's don't know already.
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« Reply #1478 on: June 22, 2005, 07:31:08 PM »

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Don't most hotels just use those cards with a strip now? And they just print them up with a particular code for that guests' stay, if multiple people in the room, everybody gets one?


Ting.  Not necessarily.  Some do and some don't.  Depending on the property, especially with Casino, some may issue only 2 per room.  The more keys to a particular room floating around in this environment the less secure the room would be.  I could very well be wrong in this particular instance, however.
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« Reply #1479 on: June 22, 2005, 07:31:26 PM »

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guys/gals i`m off  G`night all see you later byeee Wink


sweet dreams, Hannie
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