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« Reply #180 on: June 22, 2005, 10:38:26 AM »

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Morning all.. Quick question.. sorry if it was asked already.. I too watched Greta last night...the 2 girls that were on with her from MBHS.. was one of them DASH?? If so.. which one??  Nice girls they were!  Thanks!
Oh..I'll buy beer too...lol


Neither were dash, and some have found that their accounts do not match dash or previously held "truths"


Thank you Absolut..!!


no problem the questions i can handle. It's the how,what, when, where why this post that post, that I am trying to stay calm over. I need a drink already.


I missed these interviews last night. If it isnt a big ordeal - what were the discrepancies between these two girls and what was previously "known"? if its a big deal, forget it, Im sure someone will go over it during the course of the day. Thanks.


It was a previous held belief Natalee had met JVDS on a previous day in the casino in HI. It has also been believed that Natalee was at the Beach concert from roughly 7-11pm.

The MBHS on Greta last night said that she met JVDS on the 29th in the casino and that other accounts were false. They then saw JVDS and his friends at CNC later that night. This was the first time JVDS was placed at CNC with friends.


Many thanks..
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« Reply #181 on: June 22, 2005, 10:38:44 AM »

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Joran was unsupervised 17 yr old. His father was away working on his career. His mother could not control him and dismissed his bad behavior as boys will be boys. Both parents allowed him to drive, drink, gamble all illegal activities for a 17 yr old. Why was he never charged or fined for breaking these laws. And the Dad wants to be a judge!!! He also had his own apt he could come an go as he liked.
Who are they sorry for Joran or themselves as this will probably harm the father's career.


It seems he may have been on the island with no parents on the 27th and 28th.


On GVS last night it was reported the Dad was there, it was the Mom who was in Holland. The Dad picked him up at 11pm and brought him home.
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« Reply #182 on: June 22, 2005, 10:39:04 AM »

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ar least one fact was cleared up last night .. it was mama vd sloot in holland and not papa... i get the impression that mama vd sloot keeps joran in line and when she is gone... its party time.. and papa, does nt reallly care what joran does.... anyone else?


I got that same impression Rob..! Moms seems to be a little more over protective with sons then dads do.. IMO..lol


I thought Paul was the one that needed to travel for his studies to become a judge.
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« Reply #183 on: June 22, 2005, 10:39:13 AM »

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The email has its own thread.

Yay!

I also think I noticed  that the two girls interviewed on GVS made a small, insistent point that her 'real friends' wouldn't have let her get in that car.  Anyone else pick up on that inflection?

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« Reply #184 on: June 22, 2005, 10:39:33 AM »

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<<Let the judicial process (as flawed as we think it may be) down there, do its job.>>

I have discussed the Aruban procedures with my roomie.  We have decided the Aruban way may be a good way, re: not giving out ANY information until they have an iron clad case.  Maybe we should do this in USA?  We are still trying to decide. It drives the media and public mad however.  At least they are not "trying the case in the media" as so often happens in the states.


I'm no lawyer, but I think there are admirable qualities to both systems (US and Aruban).  Those same qualities also conflict with what make us (some of us) American.  Open and transparent systems are the norm here in the US because we place individual right over those of the population.  It is the reverse in Aruba (and much of the rest of the world for that matter).  

Again, they are just different.  Both have good and bad aspects.
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« Reply #185 on: June 22, 2005, 10:40:59 AM »

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ar least one fact was cleared up last night .. it was mama vd sloot in holland and not papa... i get the impression that mama vd sloot keeps joran in line and when she is gone... its party time.. and papa, does nt reallly care what joran does.... anyone else?


I got that same impression Rob..! Moms seems to be a little more over protective with sons then dads do.. IMO..lol


I thought Paul was the one that needed to travel for his studies to become a judge.


maybe she went to see family.. bc the flight is so far.. ppl tend to stay at aleast 2 weeks....
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« Reply #186 on: June 22, 2005, 10:41:04 AM »

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I did a search on the tickle website with Deepak and it came back as Lorenzo Frankle, a 15 y/o male from Aruba. I wonder if that could be the same one?

No.  It's Lorenzo Van Rijn, it was established a couple days ago.  He's a crazy guy who's father committed suicide by hanging 3 years ago.  There is also a RUMOR in Aruba that he is Paulus Van Der Sloots illigitimate child.
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« Reply #187 on: June 22, 2005, 10:41:23 AM »

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The email has its own thread.

Yay!

I also think I noticed  that the two girls interviewed on GVS made a small, insistent point that her 'real friends' wouldn't have let her get in that car.  Anyone else pick up on that inflection?

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Yes I noticed that too! I guess they're reading alot of messageboards! lol
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« Reply #188 on: June 22, 2005, 10:41:28 AM »

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I did a search on the tickle website with Deepak and it came back as Lorenzo Frankle, a 15 y/o male from Aruba. I wonder if that could be the same one?


The Lorenzo I'm referring to is Lorenzo Van Rijn, a local person (not sure of his age but I think he's in his late 20's, like Steve Croes) whose father owned a Volkswagon dealership and committed suicide around 3 years ago. Ever since the suicide, Lorenzo has purportedly not cared about anything. He has two houses on different sides of the island, as I understand it. One is covered with crazy spraypaint and is the site of underground parties; the police usually break up underground parties, but since his house is out-of-the-way the police don't usually break those up.

That's what I've gathered about him from the boards; nothing came up when I Googled him. I'm still not sure how he's connected, but I know his name was thrown around the same day as the Steve Croes arrest--maybe they know each other.
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« Reply #189 on: June 22, 2005, 10:41:36 AM »

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ar least one fact was cleared up last night .. it was mama vd sloot in holland and not papa... i get the impression that mama vd sloot keeps joran in line and when she is gone... its party time.. and papa, does nt reallly care what joran does.... anyone else?


I don't think either one of them had a handle on that kid. But I suspect the Father was the easiest of the two! Great judge material for Aruba!


Rob,
I agree with your assessment, the mom keeps them all in line.  I will however, give Papa VDS cudos for being gentlemanly and inviting the two guests into his home. This was the best thing that could happen to calm the case down quickly.  He seems like he reallly cares about what is going on right now.  He probably wishes he hadnt given his kid so much latitude., IMHO
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« Reply #190 on: June 22, 2005, 10:41:41 AM »

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The email has its own thread.

Yay!

I also think I noticed  that the two girls interviewed on GVS made a small, insistent point that her 'real friends' wouldn't have let her get in that car.  Anyone else pick up on that inflection?

Fluff


i heard that.. ouch! Shocked
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« Reply #191 on: June 22, 2005, 10:42:02 AM »

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Joran was unsupervised 17 yr old. His father was away working on his career. His mother could not control him and dismissed his bad behavior as boys will be boys. Both parents allowed him to drive, drink, gamble all illegal activities for a 17 yr old. Why was he never charged or fined for breaking these laws. And the Dad wants to be a judge!!! He also had his own apt he could come an go as he liked.
Who are they sorry for Joran or themselves as this will probably harm the father's career.


It seems he may have been on the island with no parents on the 27th and 28th.


On GVS last night it was reported the Dad was there, it was the Mom who was in Holland. The Dad picked him up at 11pm and brought him home.


The dad came back to aruba on the at 5pm on the 29th. The mother was not home on the 29th, 30th. I believe they were both away 27th and 28th.
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« Reply #192 on: June 22, 2005, 10:43:02 AM »

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I couldn't agree with Cherry more. That's it in a nutshell. Kid has no limits...so there are no linmits to his behavior.


hello.. there must have been some limits.. or how did he have such high grade average and a offer for school in the us......?

By cheating?? Shocked


pretty hard to cheat your way to the high gpa he had....


How do you know his GPA? I be suspect of that. He does not have a good reputation on the island.

You know if it walks like a duck....
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« Reply #193 on: June 22, 2005, 10:43:02 AM »

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I couldn't agree with Cherry more. That's it in a nutshell. Kid has no limits...so there are no linmits to his behavior.


hello.. there must have been some limits.. or how did he have such high grade average and a offer for school in the us......?

By cheating?? Shocked


pretty hard to cheat your way to the high gpa he had....


I watched it happen all the way through college.
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« Reply #194 on: June 22, 2005, 10:43:08 AM »

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I did a search on the tickle website with Deepak and it came back as Lorenzo Frankle, a 15 y/o male from Aruba. I wonder if that could be the same one?

No.  It's Lorenzo Van Rijn, it was established a couple days ago.  He's a crazy guy who's father committed suicide by hanging 3 years ago.  There is also a RUMOR in Aruba that he is Paulus Van Der Sloots illigitimate child.


so is this the guy that is missing?
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« Reply #195 on: June 22, 2005, 10:44:07 AM »

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I did a search on the tickle website with Deepak and it came back as Lorenzo Frankle, a 15 y/o male from Aruba. I wonder if that could be the same one?

No.  It's Lorenzo Van Rijn, it was established a couple days ago.  He's a crazy guy who's father committed suicide by hanging 3 years ago.  There is also a RUMOR in Aruba that he is Paulus Van Der Sloots illigitimate child.


so is this the guy that is missing?


I didn't know there was anyone missing...that must have slipped by me.
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« Reply #196 on: June 22, 2005, 10:44:16 AM »

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Joran was unsupervised 17 yr old. His father was away working on his career. His mother could not control him and dismissed his bad behavior as boys will be boys. Both parents allowed him to drive, drink, gamble all illegal activities for a 17 yr old. Why was he never charged or fined for breaking these laws. And the Dad wants to be a judge!!! He also had his own apt he could come an go as he liked.
Who are they sorry for Joran or themselves as this will probably harm the father's career.


It seems he may have been on the island with no parents on the 27th and 28th.


On GVS last night it was reported the Dad was there, it was the Mom who was in Holland. The Dad picked him up at 11pm and brought him home.


The dad came back to aruba on the at 5pm on the 29th. The mother was not home on the 29th, 30th. I believe they were both away 27th and 28th.


I rest my case...the kid was under no supervision at all!
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« Reply #197 on: June 22, 2005, 10:44:18 AM »

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ar least one fact was cleared up last night .. it was mama vd sloot in holland and not papa... i get the impression that mama vd sloot keeps joran in line and when she is gone... its party time.. and papa, does nt reallly care what joran does.... anyone else?


I don't think either one of them had a handle on that kid. But I suspect the Father was the easiest of the two! Great judge material for Aruba!


Rob,
I agree with your assessment, the mom keeps them all in line.  I will however, give Papa VDS cudos for being gentlemanly and inviting the two guests into his home. This was the best thing that could happen to calm the case down quickly.  He seems like he reallly cares about what is going on right now.  He probably wishes he hadnt given his kid so much latitude., IMHO


as opposed to having major confortation on the front lawn with the cameras rolling.. i loved the way he hid in the bushes...fast as O.J. and unseen like the invisible man....
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« Reply #198 on: June 22, 2005, 10:45:21 AM »

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I couldn't agree with Cherry more. That's it in a nutshell. Kid has no limits...so there are no linmits to his behavior.


hello.. there must have been some limits.. or how did he have such high grade average and a offer for school in the us......?

By cheating?? Shocked


pretty hard to cheat your way to the high gpa he had....


How do you know his GPA? I be suspect of that. He does not have a good reputation on the island.

You know if it walks like a duck....


his gpa is like 3.5 i remember reading in the beginning...
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« Reply #199 on: June 22, 2005, 10:45:22 AM »

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I couldn't agree with Cherry more. That's it in a nutshell. Kid has no limits...so there are no linmits to his behavior.


hello.. there must have been some limits.. or how did he have such high grade average and a offer for school in the us......?

By cheating?? Shocked


pretty hard to cheat your way to the high gpa he had....


I wonder if Joran is really the bad a** that some of us think.  Some of the things that he had on his tickle site and my spaces are some of the things I see my students doing....to make them look cool.  I wonder if we are not reading too much into those images and not actually seeing him as the boy that he is Question  Question  Perhaps he doesn't "think" he is a pimp, but it is "cool" to say that he is.  Anyone agree?
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