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« Reply #360 on: June 22, 2005, 11:34:30 AM »

I think it is ridiculous that people keep making a big deal out of breaking the law in regards to drinking etc - teens all over U. S. are drinking in highschool at parties - many of these parties are done even with the parents full knowledge - and all of these kids are underage - since our drinking age is 21! Have you people not heard of the problem on college campuses - underage drinking is all over! Why do you think this group from Alabama went to Aruba! I think it is crazy to come down on Joran for what kids in the U.S. do all the time - as for the gambling - well that seems to be a way of life there with the casinos and all - and plenty of the U.S. young people ingage in this thru Vegas, and on line gambling - betting on sports etc - we should not be so judgemental about the Aruban way of life in regards to these kids.
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« Reply #361 on: June 22, 2005, 11:34:44 AM »

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If the statement that he left her on the beach, asleep or hysterical, is true, then maybe that is all he knows.  Even if he had given her a date rape drug or she was upset about something else.  

Perhaps, in order to cover the fact that he sneeked out and was last seen with this missing girl, he tried to present the story in the most favorable light.  Thinking that she would show up.  Now she hasn't, and he's having to fess up to things he'd rather keep hidden.


They wouldnt have made up the holiday Inn story if that story about leavin her at the beach was in fact true...there would have ben no need too...


They might have.  Just to not come off sounding like jerks that left some girl alone on the beach in the middle of the night.


Good points, UGAMom.
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« Reply #362 on: June 22, 2005, 11:35:48 AM »

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hey hannie...
have u had your coffee??? Rolling Eyes
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« Reply #363 on: June 22, 2005, 11:35:50 AM »

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Just an observation. Paulus van der Sloot HAD to invite Natalee's mom inside the house, since it was BEFORE 10 pm. (After all, everyone made such a big deal that the first time she showed up was in the wee hours of the morning, and that explains why he would have been so confrontational.)


Plus, you know -- cameras.  He took such a beating in the court of public opinion for running away the last time, if he had been rude, dismissive or ran away from her, it would only have been more incriminating. He was put on the spot. Handled it well, but that doesn't mean much, IMO.

I agree. I mean he was running from cameras after being questioned. He knew this last time they saw him hiding in the bushes. He still didnt come forward right away, it wasnt until he KNEW they saw him he came to the gate. He then had two choices. Either invite them in and disspell any rumors they are hiding something, or turn them away and keep the rumor burning. Plus she said she was natalees mom, cameras rolling. Come on, common sense is you talk to her mother.


Not when the law has your son and wont even talk to you about it.  He was REALLY nice.  She even appreciated it.  If Greata and someone came to my yard screaming out, I would be hesitant to talk, just for sake of the investigation.  I beleive he did that because they are both in the dark from le.
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« Reply #364 on: June 22, 2005, 11:36:04 AM »

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Joran was unsupervised 17 yr old. His father was away working on his career. His mother could not control him and dismissed his bad behavior as boys will be boys. Both parents allowed him to drive, drink, gamble all illegal activities for a 17 yr old. Why was he never charged or fined for breaking these laws. And the Dad wants to be a judge!!! He also had his own apt he could come an go as he liked.
Who are they sorry for Joran or themselves as this will probably harm the father's career.


It seems he may have been on the island with no parents on the 27th and 28th.


On GVS last night it was reported the Dad was there, it was the Mom who was in Holland. The Dad picked him up at 11pm and brought him home.


The dad came back to aruba on the at 5pm on the 29th. The mother was not home on the 29th, 30th. I believe they were both away 27th and 28th.


I rest my case...the kid was under no supervision at all!


When I was a junior and senior in high school, my parents went to Europe and left me at home. During my senior year, they gave me increasing freedom, knowing I would soon be off to college. Joran was about to finish his senior year and leave for the States, so I don't think it's that big of a deal that they were a little lax or that they left him home alone.

Did your parents allow you to drink and go to Casinos? Did they knowingly allow you to break laws?
 

DID NATALEES PARENTS LET HER GO TO ARUBA DO THINGS ILLEGAL IN HER OWN GREAT STATE OF ALABAMA AND MOST OF THE OTHER STATES AT THE AGE OF 18?   WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?  NATALEE IS TWO OR THREE YEARS SHORT OF LEGAL DRINKING AND GAMBLING AGE IN THE US WHILE JORAN IS ONLY A MONTH SHORT IN ARUBA.  FOR GENERAL PURPOSES NATAEE AND JORAN ARE THE SAME AGE EDUCATIONALLY AND OTHERWISE.  TWO HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS ABOUT TO GO OUR IN THE WORLD ON THEIR OWN.  DOES DOING SOMETHING WE DON'T ALLOW IN THE US IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY MAKE IT BETTER?  I RESPECTFULLY SUGGEST WE START A SECOND GUESS OTHER PEOPLE'S PARENTING SKILLS BOARD FOR THIS DRIVEL.


You don't have to yell. Natalee did not break any laws. She was in Aruba and abiding by their laws.


This whole 'quote' thing is neet-o.
I wonder how many quotes of quotes of quotes of quotes I can have on one post!
Some of you people are little more than well-wishing sob-sisters.
I love wading through 57 pages of you jagbags discussing what your children had for breakfast and what they are allowed to watch on tv before I can find some useful info.
Thanks loads.

BTW: Anyone remember the missing girl?
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« Reply #365 on: June 22, 2005, 11:36:32 AM »

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Casinos and Drinking are not a big problem in Aruba and its not viewed the same as here in the states


NO I did not let my children drink or drive before the law said they could. Call me old fashion! I obey the laws!![/quote]  

not what i heard!!!  why are aruban residence only allowed to go there a certain # of times per year???   Anyone who has been to FOXWOODS has gone thru the impoverished area along the way to the big glamorous casinoes...if RI resricted locals from blowing all their $ there perhaps things be different around that area / in the state too[/quote]

Odd I never found foxwoods to be that way, the area all the way down to rebecca's steakhouse is almost resort town like. Almost gives off an ambiance like the Pocono's.
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« Reply #366 on: June 22, 2005, 11:36:45 AM »

Now comes the part where someone calls me a troll.
Sound the alert, idiots.
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« Reply #367 on: June 22, 2005, 11:37:03 AM »

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Just an observation. Paulus van der Sloot HAD to invite Natalee's mom inside the house, since it was BEFORE 10 pm. (After all, everyone made such a big deal that the first time she showed up was in the wee hours of the morning, and that since everyone was using that as an excuse for why he was so confrontational.)


And poor paulus took a while to come to the correct decision to get them in the house and away from the cameras.  He hid behind a bush for a long moment trying to decide what to do then took the bull by the horns.  very awkward, and very dutch.  maybe he had to tell his wife to put her clothes on and tidy up the living room.  dutch don't like surprise and go all deer in the headlights when in such situations.  they are very orderly and private.  and maybe he thought beth was a jehovah's witness.
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« Reply #368 on: June 22, 2005, 11:37:07 AM »

Paul Reynolds.. NH Uncle will be on FOX at noon..
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« Reply #369 on: June 22, 2005, 11:37:14 AM »

Yes just now, a very strong one Laughing
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« Reply #370 on: June 22, 2005, 11:38:08 AM »

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Just an observation. Paulus van der Sloot HAD to invite Natalee's mom inside the house, since it was BEFORE 10 pm. (After all, everyone made such a big deal that the first time she showed up was in the wee hours of the morning, and that explains why he would have been so confrontational.)


Plus, you know -- cameras.  He took such a beating in the court of public opinion for running away the last time, if he had been rude, dismissive or ran away from her, it would only have been more incriminating. He was put on the spot. Handled it well, but that doesn't mean much, IMO.

I agree. I mean he was running from cameras after being questioned. He knew this last time they saw him hiding in the bushes. He still didnt come forward right away, it wasnt until he KNEW they saw him he came to the gate. He then had two choices. Either invite them in and disspell any rumors they are hiding something, or turn them away and keep the rumor burning. Plus she said she was natalees mom, cameras rolling. Come on, common sense is you talk to her mother.


Not when the law has your son and wont even talk to you about it.  He was REALLY nice.  She even appreciated it.  If Greata and someone came to my yard screaming out, I would be hesitant to talk, just for sake of the investigation.  I beleive he did that because they are both in the dark from le.

Thats also possible. i think though I would have spoken to her also. They had the opportinity to have a "mediator" of sorts with Greta there. It doesnt matter at this point, it seems to have been a win win situation for them both.
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« Reply #371 on: June 22, 2005, 11:38:21 AM »

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Casinos and Drinking are not a big problem in Aruba and its not viewed the same as here in the states


NO I did not let my children drink or drive before the law said they could. Call me old fashion! I obey the laws!!
 

not what i heard!!!  why are aruban residence only allowed to go there a certain # of times per year???   Anyone who has been to FOXWOODS has gone thru the impoverished area along the way to the big glamorous casinoes...if RI resricted locals from blowing all their $ there perhaps things be different around that area / in the state too[/quote]

Odd I never found foxwoods to be that way, the area all the way down to rebecca's steakhouse is almost resort town like. Almost gives off an ambiance like the Pocono's.[/quote]

well then we have gone there different ways guy.
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« Reply #372 on: June 22, 2005, 11:38:27 AM »

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Yes just now, a very strong one Laughing


I know I cant eat much today, especially fatty foods, and I am so ill because I WANT MY PANCAKES!!!  It sucks!
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« Reply #373 on: June 22, 2005, 11:39:46 AM »

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Just an observation. Paulus van der Sloot HAD to invite Natalee's mom inside the house, since it was BEFORE 10 pm. (After all, everyone made such a big deal that the first time she showed up was in the wee hours of the morning, and that explains why he would have been so confrontational.)


Plus, you know -- cameras.  He took such a beating in the court of public opinion for running away the last time, if he had been rude, dismissive or ran away from her, it would only have been more incriminating. He was put on the spot. Handled it well, but that doesn't mean much, IMO.

I agree. I mean he was running from cameras after being questioned. He knew this last time they saw him hiding in the bushes. He still didnt come forward right away, it wasnt until he KNEW they saw him he came to the gate. He then had two choices. Either invite them in and disspell any rumors they are hiding something, or turn them away and keep the rumor burning. Plus she said she was natalees mom, cameras rolling. Come on, common sense is you talk to her mother.


Not when the law has your son and wont even talk to you about it.  He was REALLY nice.  She even appreciated it.  If Greata and someone came to my yard screaming out, I would be hesitant to talk, just for sake of the investigation.  I beleive he did that because they are both in the dark from le.

Thats also possible. i think though I would have spoken to her also. They had the opportinity to have a "mediator" of sorts with Greta there. It doesnt matter at this point, it seems to have been a win win situation for them both.



Yeah, Jorans mother seemed really touched by Beth, and Beth looked like she had just saw a ghost.  Bless her heart.
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« Reply #374 on: June 22, 2005, 11:40:06 AM »

In fact UGA, the key to this mystery is that perhaps we need to think like teenagers--not adults and not criminals.

Chances really are that this was just a typical teenage meeting that went horribly wrong some how.  Joran sees a cute girl at the casino and knows (even if not specifically invited) that she will be at the club later that night.  They meet, dance, and decide to keep visiting after closing time.

It is her last night on the island, so they can't just say see you tomorrow.  

I don't think he needed drugs to get her to leave with him.

Yes they might have been involved.  Maybe not.

One minute they are leaving the club to spend time together--two young kids on the way to bright, bright futures.

By the time the group was to leave the hotel, something bad happened.


Such a tragedy.
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« Reply #375 on: June 22, 2005, 11:40:15 AM »

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Did your parents allow you to drink and go to Casinos? Did they knowingly allow you to break laws?


Thats quite a bit different!  Are you/Did you let your kids drive before they turned 16?  My parents let me drink before I was 21, hell I spend a few years in college before I turned 21 and I when I came home I had beers with my dad.

Casinos and Drinking are not a big problem in Aruba and its not viewed the same as here in the states


NO I did not let my children drink or drive before the law said they could. Call me old fashion! I obey the laws!!
 

do you send your kids offshore to do things that are illegal where you live?


Who said they sent her there to do illegal things? YOu are being a bit presumptous there dont you think?  They might have just let her go because everyone else was going and they didn't want her to miss out.  No parent I know would send their child to a foreign country for the sole purpose of drinking and gambling.


It was an all inclusive trip, with no *real* supervision. They knew this stuff was going to be available to them and unfortunatley for some it was probably their first experience with drinking and freedom. I know this is a wake up call for me because I probably would have let my child go too!!
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« Reply #376 on: June 22, 2005, 11:40:49 AM »

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Oh please.  You're not a troll, you're just a little, shall we say, abrupt?
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« Reply #378 on: June 22, 2005, 11:41:03 AM »

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« Reply #379 on: June 22, 2005, 11:41:52 AM »

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Just an observation. Paulus van der Sloot HAD to invite Natalee's mom inside the house, since it was BEFORE 10 pm. (After all, everyone made such a big deal that the first time she showed up was in the wee hours of the morning, and that explains why he would have been so confrontational.)


Plus, you know -- cameras.  He took such a beating in the court of public opinion for running away the last time, if he had been rude, dismissive or ran away from her, it would only have been more incriminating. He was put on the spot. Handled it well, but that doesn't mean much, IMO.

I agree. I mean he was running from cameras after being questioned. He knew this last time they saw him hiding in the bushes. He still didnt come forward right away, it wasnt until he KNEW they saw him he came to the gate. He then had two choices. Either invite them in and disspell any rumors they are hiding something, or turn them away and keep the rumor burning. Plus she said she was natalees mom, cameras rolling. Come on, common sense is you talk to her mother.


Not when the law has your son and wont even talk to you about it.  He was REALLY nice.  She even appreciated it.  If Greata and someone came to my yard screaming out, I would be hesitant to talk, just for sake of the investigation.  I beleive he did that because they are both in the dark from le.

Thats also possible. i think though I would have spoken to her also. They had the opportinity to have a "mediator" of sorts with Greta there. It doesnt matter at this point, it seems to have been a win win situation for them both.



Yeah, Jorans mother seemed really touched by Beth, and Beth looked like she had just saw a ghost.  Bless her heart.


I also found it very nice of JVS mom to have hugged BHT and kissed her cheek.. shows compassion.
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