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« Reply #500 on: June 22, 2005, 12:32:29 PM »

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I've always wondered about this myself. Here's a little scenario I came up with.

Natalee was an attractive girl, and even if she didn't date much Im sure she still had plenty of people interested in her.  This person from MB liked Natalee and when he saw her flirting with Joran he was probably jealous. This might be the explanation for the scuffle. Later that night at C&C's he sees Natalee dancing with Joran and gets really jealous.  The marriott where they say they dropped her off at is pretty close to the HI and is on the same beach I believe.  Maybe this said person was walking around and saw natalee their sleeping on the beach and thinking something must have happened between her and joran killed her in a fit of rage.  Their are some serious problems with this, like how he could have hid a body on an island he barely knew, but I still think its an interesting idea.


I like it as an idea but it violates Occam's Razor. Not saying it couldn't happen, but it's a bit too convoluted and complex to be likely.  Didn't BHT say the FBI fully questioned all kids and chaperones?  They're no Keystone Kops; if something looked hinky in any of the stories, they'd be on it.


Yeah I know, I still think we are looking at some sort of overdose and coverup, but it's interesting to think about.  I think it is more likely than the white slavery theories that have been so popular.
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« Reply #501 on: June 22, 2005, 12:32:32 PM »

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the hysterical on the beach rumor has been floating for a few days.  story was she became hysterical on the beach and joran left her there.  now anita has modified it to sleeping on the beach (after she became hysterical she went to sleep?).  same beach, marriott, where they searched and where deepak says he left them (unconfirmed)  there is a subsequent hysterical woman taken from the front of the HI by two men rumor.  don't discard them but don't take them as fact either.  now we know from mother's mouth that joran told her he left natalee sleeping on the beach.  is that right?


Is anything known of who Natalee was dancing/drinking with before Joran arrived at C&C?  They arrived there shortly before closing and soon after Natalee left with them.  Maybe someone else at C&C 's had an ulterior motive and Joran arrived and  cut them off at the pass.  Might explain her histerical/sleeping behaviour if she ws slipped a drug shortly before he arrived.


MELROSE, THAT IS WHAT I  AM THINKING TOO.


I agree with the retired poiceman Nicollas{?] that Nataless friends and family need to take a polygraph.
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« Reply #502 on: June 22, 2005, 12:33:22 PM »

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BHT just said (FOX) she knows more individuals need to be persued if I heard it correctly.


I heard that too Cancun which makes me wonder if she knows more she can't tell us and perhaps the "threat of lawsuit" (which has not been confimed) is to know where her daughter is.
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« Reply #503 on: June 22, 2005, 12:33:27 PM »

With a new timeline of 12-12:30 JVDS and friends getting to CNC when did the scuffle happen? And if it did happen as MBHS'ers say wouldn't that be a reason Natalee keep JVDS away from her friends and why they left her there?
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« Reply #504 on: June 22, 2005, 12:33:46 PM »

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BHT just said (FOX) she knows more individuals need to be persued if I heard it correctly.


I wonder if she was referring to the family?
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« Reply #505 on: June 22, 2005, 12:34:35 PM »

WE HAVE HEARD THAT NATALEE DANCED WITH JORAN AFTER HE ARRIVED VERY LATE IN THE GAME.  DAD SAYS HE PICKED HIM UP AT MIKKIE DEE AFTER HE MET NATALEE AT THE POKER TABLE AT HI.    WHERE DID WE HEAR SHE WAS ON THE STAGE DRUNK (EMAIL?)  WHO WAS SHE DANCING AND DRINKING WITH BEFORE THEY ARRIVED?
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« Reply #506 on: June 22, 2005, 12:35:14 PM »

I have a hard time imagining that a 17-yr old guy would think to dispose of her body if the girl died while with him.  I could see panic, but unless he's a lot worse an individual than he seems to be, I would think he would just either leave her wherever she died or call someone.
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« Reply #507 on: June 22, 2005, 12:35:21 PM »

If any one is interested, TOP 95 is transmitting now part of Fox news where they are talking about the 2 mothers, Holloway and van der Sloot

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« Reply #508 on: June 22, 2005, 12:35:23 PM »

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BHT just said (FOX) she knows more individuals need to be persued if I heard it correctly.


Yes you did Cancunmole. I heard the same thing from her mouth.
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« Reply #509 on: June 22, 2005, 12:35:40 PM »

i think tthat the mbhs ers, have little to do with this, how could anyone with little knowledge of the island hide a body so well, i ve been there 8 times and have nt seen everything....
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« Reply #510 on: June 22, 2005, 12:35:56 PM »

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With a new timeline of 12-12:30 JVDS and friends getting to CNC when did the scuffle happen? And if it did happen as MBHS'ers say wouldn't that be a reason Natalee keep JVDS away from her friends and why they left her there?


I think they said the fight happened at the casino, which would have been sometime before C&C.
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« Reply #511 on: June 22, 2005, 12:36:12 PM »

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BHT just said (FOX) she knows more individuals need to be persued if I heard it correctly.


I wonder if she was referring to the family?


or either some of the kids on the trip.  i mean, how many aruban people does she think are "in" on this?
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« Reply #512 on: June 22, 2005, 12:37:28 PM »

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WE HAVE HEARD THAT NATALEE DANCED WITH JORAN AFTER HE ARRIVED VERY LATE IN THE GAME.  DAD SAYS HE PICKED HIM UP AT MIKKIE DEE AFTER HE MET NATALEE AT THE POKER TABLE AT HI.    WHERE DID WE HEAR SHE WAS ON THE STAGE DRUNK (EMAIL?)  WHO WAS SHE DANCING AND DRINKING WITH BEFORE THEY ARRIVED?


It was from the email, so Im skeptical of it.  ANd no one has said anything about your last question, and I doubt that they will.
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« Reply #513 on: June 22, 2005, 12:37:33 PM »

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With a new timeline of 12-12:30 JVDS and friends getting to CNC when did the scuffle happen? And if it did happen as MBHS'ers say wouldn't that be a reason Natalee keep JVDS away from her friends and why they left her there?


I think they said the fight happened at the casino, which would have been sometime before C&C.


Cali? Help Casinio or CNC's for the scuffle?
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« Reply #514 on: June 22, 2005, 12:37:36 PM »

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With a new timeline of 12-12:30 JVDS and friends getting to CNC when did the scuffle happen? And if it did happen as MBHS'ers say wouldn't that be a reason Natalee keep JVDS away from her friends and why they left her there?


We need to know the reason for the scuffle.
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« Reply #515 on: June 22, 2005, 12:37:49 PM »

in order for the mbhs ers to be involved the HI front door camera has to be defective....
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« Reply #516 on: June 22, 2005, 12:38:31 PM »

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i think tthat the mbhs ers, have little to do with this, how could anyone with little knowledge of the island hide a body so well, i ve been there 8 times and have nt seen everything....


Yeah that was my problem as well. Still if they had been there for a few days they might have noticed a spot to where they could dispose of it.
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« Reply #517 on: June 22, 2005, 12:38:47 PM »

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WE HAVE HEARD THAT NATALEE DANCED WITH JORAN AFTER HE ARRIVED VERY LATE IN THE GAME.  DAD SAYS HE PICKED HIM UP AT MIKKIE DEE AFTER HE MET NATALEE AT THE POKER TABLE AT HI.    WHERE DID WE HEAR SHE WAS ON THE STAGE DRUNK (EMAIL?)  WHO WAS SHE DANCING AND DRINKING WITH BEFORE THEY ARRIVED?


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« Reply #518 on: June 22, 2005, 12:38:51 PM »

Not very likely someone in her own group would harm her.... 1. they don't know the island   2. if a guy was jealous,  she was going away to college anyway this year so chance of getting together was slim 3. still doesn't answer why the 3 guys have a need to change stories and lie.
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« Reply #519 on: June 22, 2005, 12:39:09 PM »

THAT COP ELIO WAS IMPRESSIVE.  HE HAD BEEN CUT OFF FOX D B YESTERDAY.  HE IS A ADVOCATE AND SAYS US PROCEDURE IN MISSING CASES ID TO POLYGRAPH EVERYBODY AROUND THE MISSING PERSON  INCLUDING THE PARENTS.  IT IS A WAY OF WINNOWING OUR SUSPECTS.  HE WAS ON RADIO FM 95.1 YESTERDAY FOR A PROLONGED PERIOD.  LISTEN TO THE ARUBANS.  LET THEM BE YOUR GUIDE.  GRETA IS.  THERE ARE NO SECRETS ON A SMALL ISLAND.
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