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« Reply #680 on: June 22, 2005, 01:45:23 PM »

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Found it.

Someone is lying.

O'REILLY: Now, did you know Van Der Sloot? Did -- how did you know who he was?

KISSEL: I didn't know him, but I had seen -- he had been around the hotel and the casino with her and with her friends, her closer friends, just hanging out around the hotel for the last few days, two or three days.


 Wink So now I am not the only suspicious person looking at all of this.  Wink



i was never able to get past this statement and kinda put it on the back burner...
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« Reply #681 on: June 22, 2005, 01:45:57 PM »

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Thank you both for the information! You're right, they're not likely to tell me anything, but I don't know what else to do. Our city paper finally published the story but with less details than we already know. The rumors are pretty awful. The girl was last seen about 54 hours ago, outside of Carlos and Charlies. Thank you for your prayers. Praying is likely the best we can do.

True, this can happen anywhere, but it seems somehow the kids would use more caution elsewhere. The kids were made to feel it was a completely safe environment, even to walk around while drinking. This girl had no idea she was in danger until it was too late. And we parents back home were assured it was safe.

We are still stunned, grieving, trying to be hopeful.

Thank you for your thoughts.

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?s=0ae475b09470d0273a7ffeeeb57c18ce&t=2244


now I am really confused! Could this poster have meant 4 or 5 hrs instead of 54
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« Reply #682 on: June 22, 2005, 01:46:08 PM »

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Does anyone know what day the kids arrived in Aruba?  I remember Dash or someone saying they were there only 4 days and the first day they were "jet lagged" and just hung by the pool.


SINCE WHEN DOES A NORTH-SOUTH TRIP OVER ONE TIME ZONE CAUSE JET LAG?  JET, LAG JET SCHMAG


Good God, Iquitos, what is your deal?  I have seldom come across anyone so adversarial over even the most trivial of issues.

These kids graduated on 5/24 & so probably stayed up very late celebrating (whether with family or whatever).  The next night Dash's group (& she's the one you're scoffing at here) left for Atlanta at midnight on a bus.  After 3hours on the road, they have a layover of several hours at the Atlanta airport before they even get on the plane to Aruba.  So I guess some of them might be tired, huh.
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« Reply #683 on: June 22, 2005, 01:47:29 PM »

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May not be a good time to mention this but one of my students, on her Mexican senior trip, has been "missing" since last night. I don't want to say a lot more but I ask that you guys maybe say a prayer for her today.


Maybe she can get a separate topic...please let the admin know...


Since this forum is attached to a blog that does reviews and post about MSM news stories it will be automatic if the case gets that far. In order for it to get the coverage it needs it would be far more than a thread on a board but needs some MSM as a drving force.
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« Reply #684 on: June 22, 2005, 01:47:34 PM »

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SWEET. ROXY, GOOD CATCH. SO THE MB BOYS HAVE A GRUDGE AGAINST JORAN AND SO THEY FINGER HIM TO THE TWITTYS BEFORE THEY EVEN GET TO ARUBA AND THEY GO AFTER HIM. JORAN IS PNG BECASUE HE IS HITTIN ON THEIR LITTLE GIRLS? SWEET
 
 Um, are you kidding me?  
Are you forgetting that Joran & the brothers *admit* they left with her, and in the car which matches the description of witnesses?
And that they lied about what happened next?
You're not seriously overlooking that in favor of a theory that boys from a shoving match framed him for a possible murder...?

Aside, not to Iquitos, but about the scuffle...  Didn't it say that happened the 2nd night, not the last?  So that wouldn't be part of a final timeline, right?


If it did happen 2nd nite with Joran, how come it is now being said they didn't meet up with him until Sun nite @ 9:30 PM?
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« Reply #685 on: June 22, 2005, 01:48:33 PM »

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While on the trip.. have any of the MB kids stated at anytime during the trip before NH went missing.. IF she stayed out all night and didnt return any of the other days? Maybe this was asked long ago.. I know when I was younger.. things like that happened.. and friends covered our backs.. I was curious to know ??


I asked that also, Angie. Because at one point we were even being told that she spent the night with Steve Croes?? Bogus I think but I would like to know if she was in her room each and every night before THIS night.
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« Reply #686 on: June 22, 2005, 01:48:40 PM »

Those other kids aren't talking AT ALL..and most here seem to thinks that's OK
that they aren't pitching in to help.
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« Reply #687 on: June 22, 2005, 01:49:11 PM »

One thing I wanted to mention...
There was a report this morning that the search team from Texas is having some problems.  One big problem is getting the Aruban authorities to allow their search dogs to come to the island.  If this is true I think we should write, fax and email anyone and everyone to call for the dogs to help with the search.

Not sure if they are having any other problems.

Right now my gut tells me Beth Twitty wants to find her daughter dead or alive and bring her home.  Justice is secondary for her right now. She wants and deserves closure.  I hope the Aruban government will do everything they can to allow expert searches by the Texas group.
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« Reply #688 on: June 22, 2005, 01:49:43 PM »

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Friends aren't saying anything really, except that it was crowded.


We've now heard from 6 different MB students. Am I the only one who has heard 3 different versions of when the realized she was missing (so who was waiting in the lobby?), when NH met J?

Also, if met him at 9:30 Sun nite at BJ table, what about the SBF concert?


Okay I need someone to fill in the missing time frame or adjust it, slide it to accomodate the time line.


May29th Sunday

8am-10pm       Sleep, breakfast?

10am-2pm .      Happy Hour Snorkel Sail with depalm Tours the Afternoon of.
Take in all the pleasures of the sea by enjoying a half-day sail and snorkel experience on Aruba's newest catamaran. Lulled by the rhythm of the sea, lie on the spacious sun deck or enjoy a cocktail under the shaded cabin top. When you are ready to experience the beauty of the sea below the waterline let our friendly crew assist you as you prepare for your snorkeling adventure. Snorkeling stops include the coral-laden Antilla wreck, fish-friendly Boca Catalina and the unique Arashi reef. During your snorkel experience indulge in a delicious lunch prepared by top island chefs or sample a cool tropical drink or beer from the open bar.


2pm-7?pm.        sleep, shower, drink, eat? pack? take pictures?

5pm?         Paul Van Der Sloot Arrives in Beatrix Airport with young son Valentijn? Did Joran pick up his father?

7pm-11pm       MUSIC CONCERT
Havana Beach Club
Amphitheatre (outdoor on the beach) 7-11:00 p.m.
Lauryn Hill,Boyz II Men, Hosted by Doug E. Fresh

8pm-10pm      Joran won 4th place in a Poker Tournament?

11pm         Paul picks up son Joran at McDonalds?.

11.30pm-1.30am    Carlos and Charlies. Approx 40 MB student were there..

12.00am-1.30am    Joran arrives with Kalpoes Bros?

1.30am-2.30am   Cruising at California Lighthouse, Fishermanís Hut/Beach?

2.30am-3.00am   Joraní s house??

If I leave here tomorrow
would you still remember me
For I must be travelling on now
there's too many places I gotta see


I'm confused about the Kalpoe brothers and when they arrived and connected with Joran and Natalee?  Were the brothers ever reported to be in the casino?  How did they connect with the two?  Did Joran call them for a ride?  Or, did Natalee and Joran just run into them when they left? Wonder where the brothers were that evening?  And again, why would the younger brother be out so late?  Lots of questions?


Again 2 different stories, original MB'ers never saw JVDS friends. Clsoe friends say he showed up with him and his friends. They also say the left shortly after he and his friends arrived but she didn't.
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« Reply #689 on: June 22, 2005, 01:50:12 PM »

KISSEL: I didn't know him, but I had seen -- he had been around the hotel and the casino with her and with her friends, her closer friends, just hanging out around the hotel for the last few days, two or three days.

THIS IS ALL WE NEED.  KISSEL SAYS HE HAD BEEN AROUND THE CASINO WITH HER FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS.   NATALEE KNEW JORAN FROM ONE OR MORE ENCOUNTERS AT THE HOTEL WITNESSED BY MD HIGH STUDENTS.  

DID HE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE SCUFFLE AT THE CASINO?  WHERE DID THAT GET INTO MY ADDLED HEAD?
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« Reply #690 on: June 22, 2005, 01:50:19 PM »

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thanks again...and I am hopeful that it is NOTHING.

anyway, Cali, what do you make of all the differing timelines of them meeting?


I am back sticking to my theory of, this is all bigger than we can imagine.

It's almost like, everyone wants everyone to be "thrown off". The more anyone speaks the more confusing it gets.

I still would really believe she was kidnapped, BH knows it and can't tell us anything. It would make sense with all the "stories" etc etc.

Make sense with BH not out right saying "You did something to my daughter" but instead saying "they know where or what happened to Natalee". To me, it screams, something bad happened beyond their control, then have spoke and given the information but don't know where she is or perhaps are withholding the information of who took her etc.

The keeping them in jail etc, could be for protection and/or also to persuade them (with the evidence they collected while they were free) to give up names or a name of the people/person who did this.
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« Reply #691 on: June 22, 2005, 01:50:38 PM »

They left, but did they go back to the hotel, or to the beach?
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« Reply #692 on: June 22, 2005, 01:51:24 PM »

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While on the trip.. have any of the MB kids stated at anytime during the trip before NH went missing.. IF she stayed out all night and didnt return any of the other days? Maybe this was asked long ago.. I know when I was younger.. things like that happened.. and friends covered our backs.. I was curious to know ??


I have asked repeatly and never gotten an answer.
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« Reply #693 on: June 22, 2005, 01:51:45 PM »

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One thing I wanted to mention...
There was a report this morning that the search team from Texas is having some problems.  One big problem is getting the Aruban authorities to allow their search dogs to come to the island.  If this is true I think we should write, fax and email anyone and everyone to call for the dogs to help with the search.

Not sure if they are having any other problems.

Right now my gut tells me Beth Twitty wants to find her daughter dead or alive and bring her home.  Justice is secondary for her right now. She wants and deserves closure.  I hope the Aruban government will do everything they can to allow expert searches by the Texas group.

Nancy they have been cleared to arrive on Friday.
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« Reply #694 on: June 22, 2005, 01:52:10 PM »

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One thing I wanted to mention...
There was a report this morning that the search team from Texas is having some problems.  One big problem is getting the Aruban authorities to allow their search dogs to come to the island.  If this is true I think we should write, fax and email anyone and everyone to call for the dogs to help with the search.

Not sure if they are having any other problems.

Right now my gut tells me Beth Twitty wants to find her daughter dead or alive and bring her home.  Justice is secondary for her right now. She wants and deserves closure.  I hope the Aruban government will do everything they can to allow expert searches by the Texas group.


I agree Nancy
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« Reply #695 on: June 22, 2005, 01:52:30 PM »

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You will all probably think I am nuts, but just go with me for a min. Think simple and under your nose so to speak.
Suppose JVD is telling the truth as far as leaving Natalee sleeping on the beach (In a drugged sleep)
Suppose someone had been watching them and knew he could not waken her which is why he left her.
Or someone stumbles on her whatever anyway they take she is not resisting, she is passed out.
She could be hold up in some drug addicts house away from the tourist area that they would never even think of looking.


I am not going to argue with your speculation (partly because I am too tired) but I wonder just how many cases of "beach abduction by drug addicts" there are in Aruba? Iquitos?


I AM SURE THERE IS PLENTY OF TAKING ADVANTAGE OF DRUNK OR DRUGGED WOMEN GOING ON AT ANY TOURIST RESORT WHETHER BY LOCALS OR OTHER TOURISTS.  AT A LATE HOUR MORE LIKELY TO BE A LURKING LOCAL   I THINK A FATAL DRUG REACTION IS IN THE CARDS.  THIS DOES NOT EXPLAIN THE MISSING BODY.


Of course it does.  If joran or one of his friends gave her the drugs or drugged her then they would be in big trouble. Hence the motivation to hide the body.


There is seem to be too many mission impossible timing, the meeting at the Casino, the sneaking out at night, the coordinating after work of Deepak, the taking of his lil brother on this so called kidnapping, the sudden scuffle, that may throw the timing off.  The fact that Natalee may or may not have gone with them. The idea that they had plan b in place if such a victime died...No, I just seem too many variables.
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« Reply #696 on: June 22, 2005, 01:52:36 PM »

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Thank you both for the information! You're right, they're not likely to tell me anything, but I don't know what else to do. Our city paper finally published the story but with less details than we already know. The rumors are pretty awful. The girl was last seen about 54 hours ago, outside of Carlos and Charlies. Thank you for your prayers. Praying is likely the best we can do.

True, this can happen anywhere, but it seems somehow the kids would use more caution elsewhere. The kids were made to feel it was a completely safe environment, even to walk around while drinking. This girl had no idea she was in danger until it was too late. And we parents back home were assured it was safe.

We are still stunned, grieving, trying to be hopeful.

Thank you for your thoughts.

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?s=0ae475b09470d0273a7ffeeeb57c18ce&t=2244


now I am really confused! Could this poster have meant 4 or 5 hrs instead of 54


This was posted later... on June 1 or 2 I believe
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« Reply #697 on: June 22, 2005, 01:52:41 PM »

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While on the trip.. have any of the MB kids stated at anytime during the trip before NH went missing.. IF she stayed out all night and didnt return any of the other days? Maybe this was asked long ago.. I know when I was younger.. things like that happened.. and friends covered our backs.. I was curious to know ??


I asked that also, Angie. Because at one point we were even being told that she spent the night with Steve Croes?? Bogus I think but I would like to know if she was in her room each and every night before THIS night.

Thanks Karin.. Sometimes Im afraid to ask things ESP if they were discussed at one point or another. Made me wonder since they thought maybe she slept in etc... and as you said if she was in her room each and everynight also.
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« Reply #698 on: June 22, 2005, 01:53:28 PM »

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in Veracruz. I don't have a lot of details. I am trying to reach some of the chaperones. all I know is she did not return to her hotel last night and her roommate (1) reported it to the adults this morning about 5 am.


I am so sorry to hear that. I will say a prayer for her.
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« Reply #699 on: June 22, 2005, 01:53:32 PM »

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Thank you both for the information! You're right, they're not likely to tell me anything, but I don't know what else to do. Our city paper finally published the story but with less details than we already know. The rumors are pretty awful. The girl was last seen about 54 hours ago, outside of Carlos and Charlies. Thank you for your prayers. Praying is likely the best we can do.

True, this can happen anywhere, but it seems somehow the kids would use more caution elsewhere. The kids were made to feel it was a completely safe environment, even to walk around while drinking. This girl had no idea she was in danger until it was too late. And we parents back home were assured it was safe.

We are still stunned, grieving, trying to be hopeful.

Thank you for your thoughts.

http://bb.visitaruba.com/showthread.php?s=0ae475b09470d0273a7ffeeeb57c18ce&t=2244


now I am really confused! Could this poster have meant 4 or 5 hrs instead of 54

If I'm not mistaken, this poster is DASH's mom.  54 hours would be correct as the time of this post was 11:46pm on 5/31.
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