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« Reply #900 on: June 22, 2005, 03:21:57 PM »

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Teo, I am listening to TOP 95 and would like to make a couple of comments:

1. I really hope the people in Aruba [don't] think this Dee Fine woman speaks for all of us. I live in Birmingham and had NEVER heard of her until she started her own personal campaign against Aruba. I do NOT agree with her, and I would say the vast majority of us don't. I really wish they would quit giving her any air time so maybe she'll just shut up.


Hear hear.  She is a moron.  She had to remove that link to the Ban Aruba petition from her web site 'cause so many signed under such pseudonyms as "DEE FINE IS A BIG FAT IDIOT."  LOL

I really feel that Fox's continual airing of this fool's views are hurting the search effort.  I emailed Dee's web site about that & from the response it's clear she doesn't give a flip.  She's vilified Aruba, the chaperones, the teens, the Holloway Twitty's, and the rest of the parents.  Why not, when it gets her own face on tv?  Such a creep.

Nisxan, as you're in B'ham, too, why don't we all just quietly BOYCOTT all of her show's sponsors?  In a way just big enough to be effective, but quiet enough NOT to distract from Natalee's search.  Hmmmmm...



Here's a link to Dee Fines site w/ links to their advertisers...have at it monkeys  Laughing http://www.voiceofalabama.com/
Where?  Wink

Oh, there it is, thanks Diva.
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« Reply #901 on: June 22, 2005, 03:22:21 PM »

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I'm about ready to throw the remote control at the TV!  Fox keeps telling us in their teasers that they tell us what the story is that Joren is saying today.  Then when they do the update it's just a repeat of what has been reported for at least the last 24hrs.  Aaaarrrgh


Toss out the TV &  computer too....

Yep... the Iraq war was about 5-10 X worse than it actually was if you were not there.

The prospects if NH is never found, and the truth does not emerge,  is a dissappearing legend about as big as DB Cooper.

All the talk of her bags were packed & ready to go....Don't think anyone raised the question of whether she might have been grundging it and wearing the same clothes most of the time, so perhaps the bag pretty much just sat in the same position the whole time anyway. Personally, I would have had all 130 people out searching before anyone leaving the Island. So sad NH did not seem to have like one close buddy there who could have made the save before leaving C/C.
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« Reply #902 on: June 22, 2005, 03:23:14 PM »

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iquitos, these were posted by Dash's mom, known here are "arlee" This was determined earlier and were posted from 5/31 thru 6/2



wouldn't that make her "Mrs.Dash"?

(sorry, couldnt resist)
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« Reply #903 on: June 22, 2005, 03:23:47 PM »

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If anyone is interested, I have been *throwing* around the idea of posting the complete factual things we know etc on a website.

Anyone think that woul dbe helpful so everyone doesn't have to go searching? lol I live in here practically, along with others, maybe it might be helpful to have simple facts we know? Yes no maybe so? lol Trying to be helpful  Wink


Yes, but.....how to agree on the facts.

I can host it if needed.


Agreed absolut. I am willing to help.

I guess all we have is, she met Joran before CnC (I stick with a day or two before), she left with him aprox 1:30 with Joran, they somehow leave in the Kalpoe's car seated in the back.

There was a scuffle (not sure that's important but it's there) between Joran and some of the kids on the trip.

We have Joran and one or possibly two of his friends being questioned.

We have Deepak and Satish and Deepak's friend Steve arrested.

We at least have a one common theme in all stories...the beach (to which one, we can only guess)

We know Joran had be speaking at school about the case to his friends (through his father)

We know Joran and his friends to frequent CnC and casinos. (possibly leading us to more witnesses at CnC and the casino)

Anything else I am forgetting (I am tired lol)


You put it exactly in the order and content you want and I will cut and paste it in. It is ready to go up.
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« Reply #904 on: June 22, 2005, 03:24:07 PM »

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iquitos, these were posted by Dash's mom, known here are "arlee" This was determined earlier and were posted from 5/31 thru 6/2



wouldn't that make her "Mrs.Dash"?

(sorry, couldnt resist)


Good one Tube  Laughing
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« Reply #905 on: June 22, 2005, 03:25:22 PM »

Kerin,
I think you're doing a great job (as well as all of you others who are investigating the facts so deeply)!  Thank you for all of your hard work!....I love to catch up on all that's going on when my little guy is sleeping...
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« Reply #906 on: June 22, 2005, 03:25:58 PM »

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iquitos, these were posted by Dash's mom, known here are "arlee" This was determined earlier and were posted from 5/31 thru 6/2



wouldn't that make her "Mrs.Dash"?

(sorry, couldnt resist)


Good one Tube  Laughing
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« Reply #907 on: June 22, 2005, 03:26:00 PM »

(please no bashing...I am too tired) wanted to say that the issue I brought up in the forum earlier has had a happy ending.
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« Reply #908 on: June 22, 2005, 03:26:02 PM »

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If anyone is interested, I have been *throwing* around the idea of posting the complete factual things we know etc on a website.

Anyone think that woul dbe helpful so everyone doesn't have to go searching? lol I live in here practically, along with others, maybe it might be helpful to have simple facts we know? Yes no maybe so? lol Trying to be helpful  Wink


Yes, but.....how to agree on the facts.

I can host it if needed.


Agreed absolut. I am willing to help.

I guess all we have is, she met Joran before CnC (I stick with a day or two before), she left with him aprox 1:30 with Joran, they somehow leave in the Kalpoe's car seated in the back.

There was a scuffle (not sure that's important but it's there) between Joran and some of the kids on the trip.

We have Joran and one or possibly two of his friends being questioned.

We have Deepak and Satish and Deepak's friend Steve arrested.

We at least have a one common theme in all stories...the beach (to which one, we can only guess)

We know Joran had be speaking at school about the case to his friends (through his father)

We know Joran and his friends to frequent CnC and casinos. (possibly leading us to more witnesses at CnC and the casino)

Anything else I am forgetting (I am tired lol)


You put it exactly in the order and content you want and I will cut and paste it in. It is ready to go up.


Okay all..(Kerin lol) Anyone have anything to change add etc? Please let us know  Wink

As you know, I am a fanatic about getting things straight lol
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« Reply #909 on: June 22, 2005, 03:27:04 PM »

BTW.  WHERE ARE OUR TWO ARUBA GIRLS TODAY?
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« Reply #910 on: June 22, 2005, 03:27:09 PM »

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(please no bashing...I am too tired) wanted to say that the issue I brought up in the forum earlier has had a happy ending.


She's okay Kerin???
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« Reply #911 on: June 22, 2005, 03:28:44 PM »

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In sumation.. the only thing I am fairly certain of is what occured before Nat left CC.  If JVS and the boys arrived at CC at 12:30.. it is practically impossible for them to have drugged her.  That is of course if she was even drugged, which many of you are leaning towards... if she wasn't my theory is baseless


Don't rufies work almost immediately?  Couldn't she have been given a doctored beer in the car?  That seems a likely scenario to me.  Had she been drugged *in the bar*, she couldn't have been walking & talking after the bar closed, right?
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« Reply #912 on: June 22, 2005, 03:28:55 PM »

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2. Is there any way to communicate to the DJ's at TOP 95 that neither NH's father or stepfather have ANYTHING to do with the U.S. government? That seems like a pretty simple thing to verify and clear up. In a case with so many question marks, any absolutes would be a welcome change.


Top 95's website is: http://www.top95fm.aw/

All types of contact info there including phone numbers, e-mail, and MSN Chat.


Only hope their website has been repaired. They made a mistak last time they updated it, now it looks like a mess.


No, it still looks like crap.  But the information is all there and readable!
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« Reply #913 on: June 22, 2005, 03:29:02 PM »

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BTW.  WHERE ARE OUR TWO ARUBA GIRLS TODAY?


Uhm, they have a life? Smile
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« Reply #914 on: June 22, 2005, 03:29:29 PM »

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This is for whom I consider head MONKEY SLEUTHS..Cali and Kerin...have either one of you guys tried to contact media, authorities, etc reagrding the wonder woman email?


I emailed it to Greta



DIVA? No chit??? YOU GO WOMAN......<bowing down> I have underestimated you....lol


As soon as WW posted, I was waiting. Told Greta to see what she thought of it, she's REALLY good at getting down to the truth!


Girl, if you hear back, YOU HAD BETTER TELL US...lolol


Hope they do get back to you.

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
I do not mean to laugh, but some how I get the feeling if the email gets talked about by Greta we will be seeing it tonight on Fox with no reference of where it came from or attribution. Call it a hunch. I would like to think not, but its a hunch.


There is NO WAY Greta or any good journalist will give an email like this any serious look without verification.  It's the same thing many of us asked for here.  Journalists receive all kinds of emails from people claiming to be someone, they are used to doing a full check on the emails validity.  Without header and IP tracking info, this will never get attention.

The best thing you can do is to find the person who received the email, have them send the full email, including header to the authorities and media too...

Edited to add:  The FBI is the LE agency who handles email and Internet transmissions as they are sent across state and country borders.
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« Reply #915 on: June 22, 2005, 03:29:58 PM »

That's great news, Kerin!   What a relief...a happy ending!
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« Reply #916 on: June 22, 2005, 03:32:26 PM »

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my daughter didn't see, but was told by her friends: That Natalie passed them on the road a short while later, and that she was a passenger in a taxi with another person. She clearly did not know she was in danger; she leaned out the window and shouted something like "Aruba!!! WOOHOO!" ... I have read and heard other versions since then -- that she was actually seen getting in a car with three men; that she was alone with the guy in his car...


It is for this reason that I don't think there is much to be gained from endlessly grilling the kids who were on the trip. As I said last night, they were not expecting to be called upon to provide an accurate minute by minute accounting of their friend Natalee's every movement on the last night of their big trip, the grande finale bash. I would not be surprised if none of them actually went to their rooms and went to sleep that night.

Short of Natalee telling one of them on May 30th, hey no way am I going to that sucky U of Alabama, no sir! I'm dying my hair red and starting a new life in Lagos, the only relevant thing that they can tell us is that she is missing and that (in the case of those who did) that they saw her with Joran, the Kalpoe brothers, or all 3 some time prior to the time she was supposed to be present for the trip to the airport.

This leaves us with for all practical purposes, no actual facts other than that Natalee is missing and the US government is involved.

The congressman's remarks were very intriguing, and if it would not jeopardize the successful return of Natalee to her family, this might be a good time for him to offer some elaboration.

It is my impression that the people of Aruba have bent over backwards to be culturally sensitive, but I also think, as a public relations gesture, that the Aruba Polis should hold a American-style joint press conference with the FBI, meaning a dozen or so officials with impressive-sounding titles, and each one should make a statement to the effect that they are doing everything possible to find Natalee and thank the various other agencies, introduce the next guy, who makes a similar statement, thanks some other people, thanks the next guy, and so on down the line, FBI included. Then they should announce that they will take questions from the media and to 99% of the questions acknowledge that everyone is eager to learn all they can, and thank the public for their understanding that they cannot comment on that particular issue at this time.

This is what Americans are used to, I mean no disrespect, but I think that such an event would go a long way toward calming some of the upset feelings on the part of many. There is an old saying, that it is not so much what you say as how you say it, and Americans have refined the art of saying " the sky does indeed appear to be blue to some very knowledgeable people, but I cannot comment further on these reports at this time" into an art form.
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« Reply #917 on: June 22, 2005, 03:33:22 PM »

The little toddler in Washington has been identified by his grandmother, she says the boy and his dad (her son) had been staying in a shelter. She does not know where her son is now. Hopefully this will have a happy ending for this baby
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« Reply #918 on: June 22, 2005, 03:33:39 PM »

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wouldn't that make her "Mrs.Dash"?

(sorry, couldnt resist)


I would reference my spicy attributes but it would be wholly inappropriate.    Embarassed
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« Reply #919 on: June 22, 2005, 03:34:39 PM »

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In sumation.. the only thing I am fairly certain of is what occured before Nat left CC.  If JVS and the boys arrived at CC at 12:30.. it is practically impossible for them to have drugged her.  That is of course if she was even drugged, which many of you are leaning towards... if she wasn't my theory is baseless


Don't rufies work almost immediately?  Couldn't she have been given a doctored beer in the car?  That seems a likely scenario to me.  Had she been drugged *in the bar*, she couldn't have been walking & talking after the bar closed, right?


i've been told 30 to 60 min but amount of alcohol consumed and other medications, perscription or otherwise, will affect this timeframe
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