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« Reply #940 on: June 22, 2005, 03:46:29 PM »

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In sumation.. the only thing I am fairly certain of is what occured before Nat left CC.  If JVS and the boys arrived at CC at 12:30.. it is practically impossible for them to have drugged her.  That is of course if she was even drugged, which many of you are leaning towards... if she wasn't my theory is baseless


Don't rufies work almost immediately?  Couldn't she have been given a doctored beer in the car?  That seems a likely scenario to me.  Had she been drugged *in the bar*, she couldn't have been walking & talking after the bar closed, right?


GHB would work practically immediately and would be very easy to administer to someone without their knowledge....a 2 tablespoon serving of GHB alone could easily render someone of Natalees body size unconcious --- add alcohol to the mix and it is that much more dangerous.  a high school girlfriend of mine took a little too much one night at a club and her heart stopped....next thing you know the lights are on (in the middle of a packed club)and the paramedics are taking her away.......she was resucitated and survived with no long term effects but had she been alone or with the wrong people, she surely would have died


--i really hope Natalee is found alive--
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« Reply #941 on: June 22, 2005, 03:46:33 PM »

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absolut, i have a question, why does nt that crime dump, C&C, have series of video cameras? after all i keep hearing that their part of a national chain. i know of no large scale chain without some video....insurance companies make them install em....


I actually have an answer for this.

The even larger conglomerent(sp) they are part of is based in Mexico, not America. So they have just better than 3rd world insurance. The atmosphere in these is also dark to the point of making the cameras useless. Lastly the volume of  people would make it impossilbe to use the footage and there is no monatary gain like the cameras in casino's.
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« Reply #942 on: June 22, 2005, 03:46:46 PM »

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"I think I walked away with the confirmation that we still have some individuals that we need to pursue," she said. (BH)

My Speculation...

1. Any or all the security guards that night present at the Soul Beach Festival.
2. Any or all the security guards @ the Holliday Inn.
3. Previous mentioned Beach bum or choller who pointed to seeing Natalee walking away with Black security guards.
4. The MB boys during the altercation at CnC.
5. Any or all guys that she may have been in contact with during the Soul Beach Festival, Snorkeling trip that day, and if in Casino review all the tapes and any male local or non MB student that may have had a conversation with Nat.


well that boils it down to about 23,000 people....
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« Reply #943 on: June 22, 2005, 03:46:51 PM »

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HUSSY!!! LMAO


ROFLMAO Kerin!
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« Reply #944 on: June 22, 2005, 03:47:05 PM »

Fox continues to run that JVDS is changing his story...again?  any updates on this?? Question  Question  Question  Help   Confused
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« Reply #945 on: June 22, 2005, 03:47:08 PM »

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BTW.  WHERE ARE OUR TWO ARUBA GIRLS TODAY?


Uhm, they have a life? Smile


They have been quiet lately, sure do miss them
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« Reply #946 on: June 22, 2005, 03:47:28 PM »

nancy, actually as far as computer forensics, I do know quite a little bit about what I speak as well.  While you may cover a story and provide an email of sorts with headers to the FBI, literally that isn't the end of it, especially if the email has been forwarded. You're discounting that either the FBI, the Dutch or the Aruban authorities haven't already commandeered the original from the original sender's computer or other accounts, if this is a true scenario.  I'd submit there is a more than 50% chance they already have it, if it's real.   Considering that we have no idea (there's no "facts" just speculation) about what the authorities (I could give a crap about the media, that's just self serving glad-handing to me) have or haven't looked at, all of it is speculation.
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« Reply #947 on: June 22, 2005, 03:48:12 PM »

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Is anyone else havin a hard time stsaying connected...i have been on here since 8 this mornin, but keep gettin kicked off....i know the amount of people on here is the reason...its also the amount of time people are refreshing..we need to limit that....i think that would help a little bit....someone had mentioned that yesterday.


maybe some people should log off!


are you directing that toward me rob  Crying or Very sad

not nessessarily
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« Reply #948 on: June 22, 2005, 03:49:56 PM »

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Is anyone else havin a hard time stsaying connected...i have been on here since 8 this mornin, but keep gettin kicked off....i know the amount of people on here is the reason...its also the amount of time people are refreshing..we need to limit that....i think that would help a little bit....someone had mentioned that yesterday.


maybe some people should log off!


are you directing that toward me rob  Crying or Very sad

not nessessarily


well i hope not, i wasnt tryin to be rude....and remember what i said before, you gotta have my back on here lol...but for real, i was not tryin to insinuate that people should sign off or what not..just didnt know if it was just my computer thats all!!!!!!!!! Embarassed
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« Reply #949 on: June 22, 2005, 03:52:10 PM »

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absolut, i have a question, why does nt that crime dump, C&C, have series of video cameras? after all i keep hearing that their part of a national chain. i know of no large scale chain without some video....insurance companies make them install em....


I actually have an answer for this.

The even larger conglomerent(sp) they are part of is based in Mexico, not America. So they have just better than 3rd world insurance. The atmosphere in these is also dark to the point of making the cameras useless. Lastly the volume of  people would make it impossilbe to use the footage and there is no monatary gain like the cameras in casino's.


The branch of CnC in my town in Mexico has video cams in the bathrooms. (drug surveillence)
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« Reply #950 on: June 22, 2005, 03:52:34 PM »

A couple of pages ago someone was talking about sharks around Aruba and I believe everyone said there are sharks around the island.  Now to my part that I cannot remember - wasn't it somewhere that it was said that Natalee wanted to go look at sharks?  Didn't one of the boys say that?  Isn't that a bit odd?
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« Reply #951 on: June 22, 2005, 03:52:43 PM »

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Is anyone else havin a hard time stsaying connected...i have been on here since 8 this mornin, but keep gettin kicked off....i know the amount of people on here is the reason...its also the amount of time people are refreshing..we need to limit that....i think that would help a little bit....someone had mentioned that yesterday.


maybe some people should log off!


are you directing that toward me rob  Crying or Very sad

not nessessarily


well i hope not, i wasnt tryin to be rude....and remember what i said before, you gotta have my back on here lol...but for real, i was not tryin to insinuate that people should sign off or what not..just didnt know if it was just my computer thats all!!!!!!!!! Embarassed

Kelly, according to Cali it is because I haven't slipped Red a large enough check.  Smile
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« Reply #952 on: June 22, 2005, 03:52:50 PM »

looks like all dat figurrin' and cypherrin'  we s been doin' has dun blow'd up da servrerrr Shocked
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« Reply #953 on: June 22, 2005, 03:53:54 PM »

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Is anyone else havin a hard time stsaying connected...i have been on here since 8 this mornin, but keep gettin kicked off....i know the amount of people on here is the reason...its also the amount of time people are refreshing..we need to limit that....i think that would help a little bit....someone had mentioned that yesterday.


maybe some people should log off!


are you directing that toward me rob  Crying or Very sad

not nessessarily


well i hope not, i wasnt tryin to be rude....and remember what i said before, you gotta have my back on here lol...but for real, i was not tryin to insinuate that people should sign off or what not..just didnt know if it was just my computer thats all!!!!!!!!! Embarassed

Kelly, according to Cali it is because I haven't slipped Red a large enough check.  Smile


hahahhah  Razz  Maybe thats it lol
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« Reply #954 on: June 22, 2005, 03:54:13 PM »

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You guys are blaming Aruba for their laws on not letting the dogs arrive there before proper proceedure is done? Heck, this is done in EVERY single country. And it's just the way it is.


Hawaii has a 6 month quarantine even coming from the mainland US.


But Aruba doesn't.


You are a member of the Gezondheid Dienst in Aruba?


Oh, come on, get off my case. I know because I have taken my poodle there three times, it was easy, and I know others who have taken theirs. The only restriction are on the airplanes. I am just frustrated because I see know harm in this rescue team going to Aruba, it will cost Aruba nothing, and who knows, could help get some closure on this case. It just looks like another roadblock.
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« Reply #955 on: June 22, 2005, 03:54:27 PM »

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Quote from: "Kelly"
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Quote from: "Kelly"
Is anyone else havin a hard time stsaying connected...i have been on here since 8 this mornin, but keep gettin kicked off....i know the amount of people on here is the reason...its also the amount of time people are refreshing..we need to limit that....i think that would help a little bit....someone had mentioned that yesterday.


maybe some people should log off!


are you directing that toward me rob  Crying or Very sad

not nessessarily


well i hope not, i wasnt tryin to be rude....and remember what i said before, you gotta have my back on here lol...but for real, i was not tryin to insinuate that people should sign off or what not..just didnt know if it was just my computer thats all!!!!!!!!! Embarassed

Kelly, according to Cali it is because I haven't slipped Red a large enough check.  Smile


LMAO Kerin..it goes for me too! I need to hit the donation page again since I live on here.. gotta pay some rent! jk lol  Wink
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« Reply #956 on: June 22, 2005, 03:55:10 PM »

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absolut, i have a question, why does nt that crime dump, C&C, have series of video cameras? after all i keep hearing that their part of a national chain. i know of no large scale chain without some video....insurance companies make them install em....


I actually have an answer for this.

The even larger conglomerent(sp) they are part of is based in Mexico, not America. So they have just better than 3rd world insurance. The atmosphere in these is also dark to the point of making the cameras useless. Lastly the volume of  people would make it impossilbe to use the footage and there is no monatary gain like the cameras in casino's.

The branch of CnC in my town in Mexico has video cams in the bathrooms. (drug surveillence)


wonder if they know that the aruba branch our their syndicate is .. shall we say.. a little on the darker side....see no evil , hear no evil, speak no evil
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« Reply #957 on: June 22, 2005, 03:55:14 PM »

Rob, I always figured you to have an accent like maybe...hmmm...Robert DeNiro, not Gomer Pyle.
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« Reply #958 on: June 22, 2005, 03:55:18 PM »

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nancy, actually as far as computer forensics, I do know quite a little bit about what I speak as well.  While you may cover a story and provide an email of sorts with headers to the FBI, literally that isn't the end of it, especially if the email has been forwarded. You're discounting that either the FBI, the Dutch or the Aruban authorities haven't already commandeered the original from the original sender's computer or other accounts, if this is a true scenario.  I'd submit there is a more than 50% chance they already have it, if it's real.   Considering that we have no idea (there's no "facts" just speculation) about what the authorities (I could give a crap about the media, that's just self serving glad-handing to me) have or haven't looked at, all of it is speculation.


O.K. live in your delusions.  I'm just not willing to go along for the ride.
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« Reply #959 on: June 22, 2005, 03:55:30 PM »

Just an FYI number of people on the forum is no where near the record, dont know about the main site. But the majority of the ones on the forum are guest. 3:1 margin.
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