Lively Case Discussion #506 8/4 - 8/6/2006

[Tylergal]

Why does he find it necessary to mention that "she took me to another bar."

We are beginnnig to see a picture here that "tries very hard" to lead away from C&C.  Why?

[Lala'sMom]

Is she dead because these three bored her to death?

Why the mention that Natalee "did not have a drink in her hand?  Why?"

At this point they were trying to say she was coherent enough to make the decision to go with them.  And maybe she was, but as we all know that last round of drinks had the drugs in them.  You know, the 151 Joran brought her from the "other" bar.  That sounded fishy to me when I first heard it.

[klaasend]

Ewwwww, just the thought of having Joran's empty cup after he was drinking from it....yuck!! Can you say fumigate!!

I think Joran had the cup or vessel the 'yard' drink was served in and it was a novelty to an American Tourist. You know, one of us dumb cowboys?
He tossed out the little bit of coke, meaning the 151 Bacardi and Coke so he could obliged the American tourist. I just did the same thing myself with a Long Island Ice Tea my neighbors made me to celebrate turning half a century old. I think they doubled up the recipe, because now I think I have hair on my chest from it...

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!

[Tylergal]

She was drugged at C&C and they are afraid of the bartender.  Who was the bartender that night?  Was he someone that we have read about?  Was he perhaps a fill-in bartender who later burned himself in a cave?  Where is the money leading to.

[MisGivings]

Her friend that was printed on the picture.
He won money back for her friend.

Do you not think in all this time if at age 17 you won back $100 for a friend and went with that friend to cash in the chips, you would remember the name?

The friend who was in the picture never came forward.

The friend who shouted at her to get out never came forward.

All lies, all of it.

I think that 'friend' was Katherine somebody, the girl Joran was really attracted to. (source; Joran himself)

[casa]

She was drugged at C&C and they are afraid of the bartender.  Who was the bartender that night?  Was he someone that we have read about?  Was he perhaps a fill-in bartender who later burned himself in a cave?  Where is the money leading to.

I have had a feeling from the beginning that they put something in that last drink she had.  Something that may have killed her.  Some kind of reaction maybe.

[klaasend]

Great work.  You are going where I went when I read this.  She is dead in the car, but we have not been told why.  Why is she dead now?  Why did Joran know at that point her panties were navy blue when it was in the dark?  Are his fingers able to see in color?

She was raped in the car and died.  They dropped Joran and a dead Natalee off somewhere so Joran could decide what to do.  Paulus is the one who took care of it from there.

[Lala'sMom]

She was drugged at C&C and they are afraid of the bartender.  Who was the bartender that night?  Was he someone that we have read about?  Was he perhaps a fill-in bartender who later burned himself in a cave?  Where is the money leading to.

Picked out at the casino and drugged at the bar...a perfect plan that went perfectly at least 20 times before....

[casa]

Great work.  You are going where I went when I read this.  She is dead in the car, but we have not been told why.  Why is she dead now?  Why did Joran know at that point her panties were navy blue when it was in the dark?  Are his fingers able to see in color?

She was raped in the car and died.  They dropped Joran and a dead Natalee off somewhere so Joran could decide what to do.  Paulus is the one who took care of it from there.

Sounds logical to me, klaasend.  Paulus became involved to dispose of her body.

[Kat_Gram]

Hey, where can I read the garbage MR is spewing about her escapade to swamp Aruba? Link PLEASE.
LOL, I saw where she found Boeti to be an intelligent fellow. I guess he would be compared to the losers she interacts with at the garbage dump.
No standards covers alot of ground.

I won't post the link because they are anti Family over at Freedom of Blogs. Klassend won't allow the posting of links to thee types of blogs.

[Tylergal]

Steve Croes accepted a job at a night club as payment in kind.  Someone got off cheap, or did he?  Why is he so obviously always in the public eye?  Is he trying to be out in plain view to lessen his chances of suicide.

[MisGivings]

Anita, Joran is beginning to sound more and more like the sweet boy next door.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08/05/arizona.killings.hausner.ap/index.html

Hmmm, I thought she refered to Joran as 'Delicious'??? (Insert puking smiley icon here)

[Lala'sMom]

Great work.  You are going where I went when I read this.  She is dead in the car, but we have not been told why.  Why is she dead now?  Why did Joran know at that point her panties were navy blue when it was in the dark?  Are his fingers able to see in color?

She was raped in the car and died.  They dropped Joran and a dead Natalee off somewhere so Joran could decide what to do.  Paulus is the one who took care of it from there.

Certainly explains the non existent blood the FBI saw and maybe even the chocolate.  She vomited before she died.  Gosh, I wish I didn't think this way...breaks my heart.  They didn't help her, not Joran or Deepak.  Remember Beth asking Deepak if he did anything to help her?

[Tylergal]

Let's switch quickly to the car conversation.  "Your own father..."  "The people at Automotive Enterprises...."

[MisGivings]

Hi Monkeys. Just a quickie

Klaas I saved the boycott Aruba stamp. I am going to print it out like you suggested and I am going to put it on every piece of mail we send. All the bills etc. Think of all the folks who will see it. All the postal workers, the recipients. I think it is a great idea.

Sam

Thanks Sam but I can't take credit for the stamp idea or the label idea.  I just created the photo for the stamp and the label template.  I think it's a great idea too!

YUP! During Gay Pride Week, folks use a stamp that says something like, "This Money belongs to a Gay American", and they show up in all kinds of businesses.

[Tylergal]

"She was a virgin...she gave me a blow job...."

He admits she is a virgin.  Did he force her to do the other which was what caused her to vomit and die?

[klaasend]

Hey, where can I read the garbage MR is spewing about her escapade to swamp Aruba? Link PLEASE.
LOL, I saw where she found Boeti to be an intelligent fellow. I guess he would be compared to the losers she interacts with at the garbage dump.
No standards covers alot of ground.

I won't post the link because they are anti Family over at Freedom of Blogs. Klassend won't allow the posting of links to thee types of blogs.

The interresting thing about Medleyrelay and Aruba, she has posted very little.  Last time I saw her post it was a 2 liner about nothing.  I REALLY wonder if she's in Aruba.

[Tylergal]

Medleyrelay is a swamp o'possum.  Are they projecting now?

[Lala'sMom]

Let's switch quickly to the car conversation.  "Your own father..."  "The people at Automotive Enterprises...."

Yes. let's do.  They changed that car out for Paulus.

[Tylergal]

They went toward Montaja around 2:00 a.m.  The Kalpoes were washing their car.  Why?  What was wrong that they needed to involve Automotive Enterprises?