Lively Case Discussion #506 8/4 - 8/6/2006

[Anna]

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Recently someone posted about a friend going to Aruba and that the tour guide on a snorkeling trip indicated a spot the locals claim is the scene of the crime.  Do we still have that post and did it specify where this guide said it happened?

Perhaps this information has some validity?

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[Lala'sMom]

Joran broke down and confessed what had happend to Natalee and then when they realized that Paulus was involved they began the cover up. Why?  Because Paulus knows all the secrets and does all the dirty work for those in power.  He knows every player and what they have done and who is into the porn and drugs and money laundering.  Paulus may seem to be a small wheel, but he weilds a great deal of power.

[MisGivings]

Well, I think I shall go find my 'old ladies' nest now.
It was a good day. My Mom gave me great brothers, and they married wonderful women. "Bless their hearts", the only gag gift was an inside out card. The highlight was when the 5 year old neighbor girl sang 'Happy Birthday' to me during the State Fair's closing fireworks. Now, that was something!
Thanks to all the Monkeys for their kind wishes for me. Just knowing you all are here helps alot.

Sweet Dreams!

[Tylergal]

"Who gave her the drink of Bacchus?"  Hmmm, was that the guy who eviscerated himself and set himself on fire in the cave, or was he the bartender "where Natalee took me ....."  "151..." etc.

[Lala'sMom]

Well, I think I shall go find my 'old ladies' nest now.
It was a good day. My Mom gave me great brothers, and they married wonderful women. "Bless their hearts", the only gag gift was an inside out card. The highlight was when the 5 year old neighbor girl sang 'Happy Birthday' to me during the State Fair's closing fireworks. Now, that was something!
Thanks to all the Monkeys for their kind wishes for me. Just knowing you all are here helps alot.

Sweet Dreams!

Goodnight Misgivings, sweet dreams and Happy Birthday to you.

[klaasend]

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Recently someone posted about a friend going to Aruba and that the tour guide on a snorkeling trip indicated a spot the locals claim is the scene of the crime.  Do we still have that post and did it specify where this guide said it happened?

Perhaps this information has some validity?

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Anna - I don't remember that post.  Was it here or at BFN?  Very interresting.  Didn't Bleachedblack just go to Aruba??  Was it her?

[Tylergal]

Misgivings, I hope this is going to be a great birthday week all week long.

[Tylergal]

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Recently someone posted about a friend going to Aruba and that the tour guide on a snorkeling trip indicated a spot the locals claim is the scene of the crime.  Do we still have that post and did it specify where this guide said it happened?

Perhaps this information has some validity?

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Anna - I don't remember that post.  Was it here or at BFN?  Very interresting.  Didn't Bleachedblack just go to Aruba??  Was it her?

Elaine.

[Lala'sMom]

"Who gave her the drink of Bacchus?"  Hmmm, was that the guy who eviscerated himself and set himself on fire in the cave, or was he the bartender "where Natalee took me ....."  "151..." etc.

Oh boy!!  Shango!  I am awake now.  

[Tylergal]

It was around mid June when the call to the bifrons went out and was heard all the way to Bil's house.  Was Bill GVC's father?  Was it a boat that belonged to the rat patrol.. I mean, Visbility Team?  Why was GVC so nervous on the night of 6/10/05 when he was with the American girl?  Was he afraid someone would know Paulus had used his Visibility Team boat?  Or did he just find out that this boat was used for such a purpose and his mother was calling to tell him to keep quiet about the boat.

[MisGivings]

Misgivings, I hope this is going to be a great birthday week all week long.

Thanks, but I need to go to an Orthepedic specialist about the seperated discs in my back and find out if I will need surgery.
UGH!
Kenny Rogers is going to be at The Ohio State Fair Tuesday night, so I am trying to win tickets so I can go. That would make the week better.
Especially if it reunites me with a long lost friend.

Thanks again everybody.

[Anna]

Happy Birthday, Misgivings!  And it sounds as though you did have a very nice one.  I wish you many more, each happier than the one before!

 

[klaasend]

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Recently someone posted about a friend going to Aruba and that the tour guide on a snorkeling trip indicated a spot the locals claim is the scene of the crime.  Do we still have that post and did it specify where this guide said it happened?

Perhaps this information has some validity?

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Anna - I don't remember that post.  Was it here or at BFN?  Very interresting.  Didn't Bleachedblack just go to Aruba??  Was it her?

Elaine.

Our Elaine - the one who was posting earlier today?  Did I miss that post?  Should I go back and look for it?

[igsigs]

Info left out of Joran 6/9 statement but told to Charles Croes...

-Blackjack lucky charm...winning money back for Natalee.
-Virgin
-Lesbian
-Natalee dancing provactively.
-BJ
-Natalee did drugs...maybe drank.
-Natalee acting crazy.
-Joran's decision to take Nat home (not Natalee's).

[Tylergal]

Ah, Kenny is a nice fellow.  I met him once on an occasion where anyone would have had the right to be mad and he was a perfect gentleman.  Traveling all day and having your accommodations all screwed up is reason to make anyone mad, but he was a real sport about it.  

[Tylergal]

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Recently someone posted about a friend going to Aruba and that the tour guide on a snorkeling trip indicated a spot the locals claim is the scene of the crime.  Do we still have that post and did it specify where this guide said it happened?

Perhaps this information has some validity?

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Anna - I don't remember that post.  Was it here or at BFN?  Very interresting.  Didn't Bleachedblack just go to Aruba??  Was it her?

Elaine.

Our Elaine - the one who was posting earlier today?  Did I miss that post?  Should I go back and look for it?

Klaasen, I think she posted it when you were with your sister.

[Kat_Gram]

[Tylergal]

ANITA VANDERSLOOT, your son is not delicious.  He is a puke.  In fact, he is so sorry that he makes people gag, vomit and die, and then your husband disposes of their body.

[Pita]

There are 2 Automotive Enterprises currently doing business in Aruba, as found in the Aruba Chamber of Commerce records:  


Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 5 APRIL 1990 under serial number 9741.0 is the company with the tradename:
 
 
OSMAN AUTOMOTIVE ENTERPRISES N.V.  
 
Business address WAYACA 33, ORANJESTAD OOST  
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY  
Name of the company  OSMAN AUTOMOTIVE ENTERPRISES N.V.  
Statutory seat  ARUBA  
Date of incorporation  4 APRIL 1990  
     
Authorized capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 50,000.00  
Issued capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00  
Paid up capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 10,000.00  
Fiscal year  01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER  
   
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:  
 
OSMAN, FAROUK;  
Residing in  BALSAMOSTRAAT 2-B, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA  
Born in  NETHERLANDS ANTILLES, CURACAO on 11 FEBRUARY 1950  
Nationality  DUTCH  
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR  
Effective  5 APRIL 1990  
Authority  FULL  
   
OSMAN, OSMAN FAROUK;  
Residing in  SABANA BLANCO 18-I, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA  
Born in  NETHERLANDS ANTILLES, CURACAO on 1 OCTOBER 1974  
Nationality  DUTCH  
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR  
Effective  1 APRIL 2004  
Authority  FULL  
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY  
 
1. DE KLEINHANDEL IN AUTO ONDERDELEN, -BENODIGDHEDEN EN -ACCESSOIRES.

2. DE KLEINHANDEL IN MOTORFIETSEN EN -ONDERDELEN.


Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 31 JULY 1995 under serial number 19035.0 is the company with the tradename:
 
 
STERN AUTOMOTIVE ENTERPRISES NV  
 
Business address SABANA BLANCO 35, ORANJESTAD OOST  
Legal form  LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY  
Name of the company  STERN AUTOMOTIVE ENTERPRISES NV  
Statutory seat  ARUBA  
Date of incorporation  28 JULY 1995  
Last amendment in the articles  30 DECEMBER 1999  
     
Authorized capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 1,000,000.00  
Issued capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 600,000.00  
Paid up capital  ARUBAN FLORINS 600,000.00  
Fiscal year  01 JANUARY thru 31 DECEMBER  
   
DIRECTORS - AUTHORIZED PERSONS AND CORPORATE BODIES - SUPERVISORY BOARD:  
 
HOLLANDER, LEENDERT;  
Residing in  SOESTDIJKSEWEG NOORD 140, 3723 HM BILTHOVEN, THE NETHERLANDS  
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, UTRECHT on 2 OCTOBER 1937  
Nationality  DUTCH  
Position  SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR  
Effective  28 JULY 1995  
   
RICHARDS, VINCENT ARNOLD;  
Residing in  500 FRIERS HILL ROAD, P.O. BOX 1816, ST. JOHN'S, ANTIGUA  
Born in  ANTIGUA, SWEETES on 16 NOVEMBER 1945  
Nationality  BRITISH  
Position  SUPERVISORY DIRECTOR  
Effective  28 JULY 1995  
   
JOLLEY HOLDING ARUBA N.V.  
Established at  CROESSTRAAT 3, ORANJESTAD, ARUBA  
Position  MANAGING DIRECTOR  
Since  16 JULY 1999  
Authority  RESTRICTED  
   
VAN DER WINDT, HENDRIK, GERARDUS;  
Residing in  ROTTERDAMSTRAAT 5-C, SAN NICOLAS, ARUBA  
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, ROTTERDAM on 12 AUGUST 1953  
Nationality  DUTCH  
Position  PROXY  
Effective  26 OCTOBER 1999  
Authority  RESTRICTED  
   
THEYSEN, DAVID ALEXANDER;  
Residing in  SAVANETA 311-A, SAVANETA, ARUBA  
Born in  ARUBA on 4 OCTOBER 1963  
Nationality  DUTCH  
Position  PROXY  
Effective  26 OCTOBER 1999  
Authority  RESTRICTED  
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY  
 
A. DE KLEIN-, DOORVOER-, AGENTUREN- EN COMMISSIEHANDEL IN AUTOMOBIELEN EN ANDERE GEMOTORISEERDE VOERTUIGEN, ALSMEDE DE ONDERDELEN EN ACCESSOIRES DAARVOOR;
B. HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN GARAGEBEDRIJF ANNEX UITDEUKERIJ EN SPUITERIJ;
C. HET INSTALLEREN, ONDERHOUDEN EN REPAREREN VAN ALLE SOORTEN LUCHTKOELINGS- EN LUCHTBEHANDELINGSAPPARATUUR, MEER IN HET BIJZONDER MAAR NIET DAARTOE BEPERKT LUCHTKOELINGSAPPARATUUR VOOR AUTOMOBIELEN;
D. HET LEASEN EN EXPLOITEREN VAN RIJDEND MATERIEEL ZOALS AUTOMOBIELEN, BUSSEN EN VRACHTWAGEN.  
   
Only valid if accordingly signed by the Chamber.

[klaasend]

Elaine wrote:

Hello monkeys!! A lightning strike three weeks ago blew me offline, just now back on YEAH!!! Phew, withdrawel is a bad thing! While I was offline, I went to a reunion. While there, I talked to a woman...her and her hubby, just back from Aruba. She said that the majority of the locals she spoke with told her that ..Joran is as guilty as sin! And, that Paulus covered the whole thing up for the boy, they hate The VDS family (most of the locals do).....also, when they went on a snorkeling adventure, another local who is a tour guide pointed to a part of the island and said "That is where they gang raped the girl"...."Then she was thrown into the ocean over there." So, in my opinion, the locals may say what they have to say to feel safe over there, but in reality, they know the truth!!!