Lively Case Discussion #506 8/4 - 8/6/2006

[cubbeegirl]

Morning nonesy , hopin mr. none has a good day today....

He seems to have a bit more energy since starting supplemental oxygen, and he actually ate some breakfast which was a big improvement. Thanks for asking Cubbee.

You are most welcome. You know I am thinking about ya chicky!

[nonesuche]

HUGS CUBBEE  

[2NJSons_Mom]

Hello, all, I'm back for a few minutes.

When Angelina of the Cyber Cafe was interviewed, was it not said in some way that she was like family, like a daughter to 2K's stepfather?  I seem to recall this.

[nonesuche]

Hugs Lala's and Cubbee-

Yes Deepak slips up and tells the truth, but if you note, he does stick to petty details Paulus-wussy inserted such as the pillar.......notice that?

ALL Paulus-wussy's detail.

Yes, there are many obvious references where Paulus coached the story.  Now I want to see all of Joran's other statements he made while he was in jail.  They can tell us much also.

I think Deepak has rebelled against Paulus-wussy all the while, which is why he can be broken - it would seem so simple too, just detail to Deepak that Paulus-wussy thinks D is stupid? Instant anger........with a little expert pushing I expect he would spill much.

Hey Deepak, Paulus-wussy and Joran-sissy say you are STOOPID!!

[Nut44x4]

TY Klaas 4 the pix....look at them and tell me they are not related. Anyone??

[klaasend]

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 I do not have a link to the pix, but I know klaas has it. I am still not convinced she is a sister, BUT.....they do all resemble each other. So many lies, so many pictures, .. snipped


The Kalpoes have a little sister... step sister.. she was about ten ...

OK, so would her name be Angie Ramirez?

[Lala'sMom]

I remember an interview with Mama K early on in which she relates there is a sister.  I don't have it anymore, maybe it is the Greta one when they surprise her at home with the rooster crowing in the background. Anyone remember?

[Lala'sMom]

Gotta run for a while, bbl.  Keep the fires burning!

[Nut44x4]

Nut 44
I am up for any method, what are your ideas?  How should we approach this with fresh eyes and maybe find soemthing we missed?  TIA

I am not 'fresh eyes' and I have no clue on new ideas. I have been on this since day one and mostly I am just angered by all I see that ALE discarded as 'N/A'. I have maybe 2 thoughts as to what happened to Natalee AFTER her passing (in whatever form or matter by whoever) and those 2 include a trip into the ocean via boat, possible cage to confine body/evidence or incineration......SORRY to have to say that cause I know if that is true then there would be NO BODY, NO CRIME. But I have to say what I feel. In my heart I hope that did not happen for the sake of the family. I am still in limbo here...I just do not know. I wish I did.

[Kat_Gram]

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 I do not have a link to the pix, but I know klaas has it. I am still not convinced she is a sister, BUT.....they do all resemble each other. So many lies, so many pictures, .. snipped


The Kalpoes have a little sister... step sister.. she was about ten ...

OK, so would her name be Angie Ramirez?

Yes...
What is the StepDad's name ? Marcel ?
On the FP, someone is wishing J a Happy Birthday, is it ?

[Kat_Gram]

Crime Scene

The whole island should have yellow tape around it

[klaasend]

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 I do not have a link to the pix, but I know klaas has it. I am still not convinced she is a sister, BUT.....they do all resemble each other. So many lies, so many pictures, .. snipped


The Kalpoes have a little sister... step sister.. she was about ten ...

OK, so would her name be Angie Ramirez?

Yes...
What is the StepDad's name ? Marcel ?
On the FP, someone is wishing J a Happy Birthday, is it ?

Luis Antonio Ramirez, I think.

Yes, today is the goons birthday.

[nonesuche]

very true Kat_gram, just the island of crooks and misfits

eventually if the borders are closed, they will turn on each other and problem solved......

[nonesuche]

Klaas-

Don't you have a special card/photo for the goon today?  

[Kat_Gram]

http://www.aruba.com/pages/regionalmap.htm
here's a link. this has been posted before but it is a good map

[San]

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 I do not have a link to the pix, but I know klaas has it. I am still not convinced she is a sister, BUT.....they do all resemble each other. So many lies, so many pictures, .. snipped


The Kalpoes have a little sister... step sister.. she was about ten ...

OK, so would her name be Angie Ramirez?

Yes...
What is the StepDad's name ? Marcel ?
On the FP, someone is wishing J a Happy Birthday, is it ?

Luis Antonio Ramirez, I think.

Yes, today is the goons birthday.

I hope he doesn't see another one.

[cubbeegirl]

Unfortunately I have work to do today . So much was put off when I had no air conditioning. I am seriously considering throwing my husband out or the a/c  man. JOKING!

Catch up with y'all later!

[Nut44x4]

I sure would like to think happier thoughts that she is still alive.......perhaps on another Island. If I did that, then I would have to believe in the 'human trafficking' agenda and I am not sure I do. I KNOW it exists and it is horrible to think about, but as far as Natalee goes....I am not sure it is that complicated. I do however wonder a lot about WHY this girl (Natalee). I have many questions re: that and IF her demise was simply an accident, why not report it as such. The fact that it was not reported as an 'accidental death' still weighs heavy on my mind. WHY the cover-up. ACCIDENTS HAPPEN all over the world, every day of our lives and people die from that. IF this was not a planned murder, why cover it? Surely accidental deaths happen on that one happy island as do so many here in the USA. What is the problem?? Tourism should not be affected by an accident....no? Sorry...I am rambling on and on. My mind sometimes extends to my fingers, lol.

[klaasend]

Klaas-

Don't you have a special card/photo for the goon today?  

Not yet but I could, lol  

[Pita]

Angelina from the Cyberzone Internet Cafe was born April 23, 1976.  That would make her 30 years old.  
Appearing in the Trade Register of the Chamber of Commerce and Industry in ARUBA since 29 AUGUST 2005 under serial number 33827.0 is the company with the tradename:
 
 
CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ  
 
Business address L.G. SMITH BLVD. 82, ORANJESTAD WEST  
Legal form  SOLE OWNERSHIP  
Name of the company  CYBERZONE INTERNET CAFÉ  
Date of commencement  29 AUGUST 2005  
     
   
OWNERS/PARTNERS  
 
RAMIREZ, LUIS ANTONIO;  
Residing in  HOOIBERG 91-B, SANTA CRUZ, ARUBA  
Born in  ARUBA on 2 MAY 1960  
Nationality  DUTCH  
Position  OWNER  
Effective  29 AUGUST 2005  
Authority  FULL  
   
REPPAS, ANGELINA;  
Residing in  RUBY 72, NOORD, ARUBA  
Born in  THE NETHERLANDS, NIJMEGEN on 23 APRIL 1976  
Nationality  DUTCH  
Position  PROXY  
Effective  29 AUGUST 2005  
Authority  FULL  
   
OBJECTIVE(S) OF THE COMPANY  
 
A. HET EXPOITEREN VAN DE TOEGANG TOT DE WORLD WIDE WEB EN ANDERE MULTIMEDIA NETWERKEN EN ACTIVITEITEN;

B. HET VERLENEN VAN DIENSTEN VOOR WAT BETREFT HET MAKEN VAN FOTOCOPIEEN, DRUKWERK EN FAXEN;

C. HET EXPLOITEREN VAN EEN GRAFISCHE, ADVERTENTIE-, RECLAMEBUREAU;

D. DE KLEINHANDEL IN KANTOORBEHOEFTEN;

E. DE KLEINHANDEL IN KLEINE ETENSWAREN, HAPJES, KOFFIE, THEE EN ALCOHOLVRIJE DRANKEN.
 
   
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