Lively Case Discussion #506 8/4 - 8/6/2006

[klaasend]

My morning has slipped away from me and I have work to do.  I'll be lurking and working but not posting.  

[Ono]

Hello, all, I'm back for a few minutes.

When Angelina of the Cyber Cafe was interviewed, was it not said in some way that she was like family, like a daughter to 2K's stepfather?  I seem to recall this.

Yes...maybe they weren't kidding and it was in the literal sense. That was fishy to me anyway.

[terryd270]

Kat_Gram,

The funny part was that I too kept trying to make her keep clothes on her dolls but it was the first thing she took off.. That and the wet-dry hair look.. She always gave me the ugly barbies to play with and once I had a company family dinner and at the table my daugther had brought one of the ugly barbies and put it on the table and said "Daddy I bought you your barbie to play with"???????  

Then I had a workmate that had two daughters about the same age as mine and I noticed that all her barbies were in their boxes and all had their clothes on.. Well I was too embarrest to aske how he got his two girls to maintain their dolls.. I mention it to a friend of ours and said those are collectible barbies and they aren't to be play with..

td

[mishy]

Does anybody know what nickname JORAN went/goes by? What did his buddies call HIM?

JoJo
The King of Dingiling
Loverboy

       

[Carnut]

I've always felt Angelina was keeping many secrets too.

Me too...she almost glowed with silent gloating on that interview and looked like the cat who swallowed the canary.  She thinks she's hot stuff.

Everyone on the island thinks that way.

They all think Nat got what she deserved for coming to the island in the first place.

If you don't intend to 'play', don't come to the island.

[Kat_Gram]

Kat_Gram,

The funny part was that I too kept trying to make her keep clothes on her dolls but it was the first thing she took off.. That and the wet-dry hair look.. She always gave me the ugly barbies to play with and once I had a company family dinner and at the table my daugther had brought one of the ugly barbies and put it on the table and said "Daddy I bought you your barbie to play with"???????  

Then I had a workmate that had two daughters about the same age as mine and I noticed that all her barbies were in their boxes and all had their clothes on.. Well I was too embarrest to aske how he got his two girls to maintain their dolls.. I mention it to a friend of ours and said those are collectible barbies and they aren't to be play with..

td

Kids, eh ?
GD always liked the boobies on the Barbies too.
GD has some collectible Barbies too, the fairy ones.
The old ones and designer ones are worth lots, but we just have pails of ugly sordid looking ones.

[Ono]

Does anyone want to bet all the new pictures we will see of Joran on the internet celebrating his birthday with all his criminal friends.  Hey maybe Deepak and Satish will join him.

Wonder if Anita is in hotel lobbies as we speak huckstering to young female tourists the chance to pose with Joran? " $100 bucks a smooch snapshot...$200 bonus for a licking pose? Step right up, girlies !! The Joran Bus is parked just off to your left.. Round trip to the Sloot Estate pool and back in just one hour! Ice Cream and cookies too! "

[Kat_Gram]

I've always felt Angelina was keeping many secrets too.

Me too...she almost glowed with silent gloating on that interview and looked like the cat who swallowed the canary.  She thinks she's hot stuff.

Everyone on the island thinks that way.

They all think Nat got what she deserved for coming to the island in the first place.

If you don't intend to 'play', don't come to the island.

G Toad found the link to the businesses registered in Aruba and the StepDad's interest in the business came into being in August of 2005.
Even Dave mentioned it in his book. Like there was some money that changed hands and came into the Kalpoe hands.

[Bearlyhere]

Does anybody know what nickname JORAN went/goes by? What did his buddies call HIM?

JoJo
The King of Dingiling
Loverboy

       

Hi Monkeys.     Mishy, I have been trying to catch you online to ask how your Mom is.

[klaasend]

I've always felt Angelina was keeping many secrets too.

Me too...she almost glowed with silent gloating on that interview and looked like the cat who swallowed the canary.  She thinks she's hot stuff.

Everyone on the island thinks that way.

They all think Nat got what she deserved for coming to the island in the first place.

If you don't intend to 'play', don't come to the island.

G Toad found the link to the businesses registered in Aruba and the StepDad's interest in the business came into being in August of 2005.
Even Dave mentioned it in his book. Like there was some money that changed hands and came into the Kalpoe hands.

Here is the link to the Aruba Chamber - Registry search.  We were told by Arubans that no money exchanged hands...for what it's worth:

http://206.48.100.138/registry/registry_search.afp



Now I really have to get to work!  

[Kat_Gram]

URINE when he was a little goon. That came from Melody.

[Ono]

Who owns that particular Carlos & Charlie's in Aruba ??  I wonder if Paulus is a silent investor ?

[Kat_Gram]

Who owns that particular Carlos & Charlie's in Aruba ??  I wonder if Paulus is a silent investor ?

The Anderson Group of companies are the owners of C & C's. They have lawyers in Aruba. They also have Senor Frogs in Mexico and the Shrimp Bucket. Those two are nothing like C & C's in Aruba.

[Bearlyhere]

Joran says he knew Natalee wanted to have sex with him.  He went all these places knowing he didn't have a condom?  Couldn't he get one from his friends?  If he didn't have any condoms, why didn't he stop for them?  After all, he put down megabucks plying her with alcohol, why not buy condoms?  He had to know he didn't have one.  

This blows a hole in the condom theory to me.

[Bearlyhere]

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Now I really have to get to work!  

Klaas, we have you working 24/7.  Thanks for all the work you do here!  

[Ono]

Who owns that particular Carlos & Charlie's in Aruba ??  I wonder if Paulus is a silent investor ?

The Anderson Group of companies are the owners of C & C's. They have lawyers in Aruba. They also have Senor Frogs in Mexico and the Shrimp Bucket. Those two are nothing like C & C's in Aruba.

I wonder if Paulus himself is financially connected to The Anderson Group ?

[Ono]

Joran says he knew Natalee wanted to have sex with him.  He went all these places knowing he didn't have a condom?  Couldn't he get one from his friends?  If he didn't have any condoms, why didn't he stop for them?  After all, he put down megabucks plying her with alcohol, why not buy condoms?  He had to know he didn't have one.  

This blows a hole in the condom theory to me.

  Yes, his condom is full of holes.

[sb]

Our boycott of Aruba is already working so well, I think we should expand it to include new york and any place where Natalee and her family are scoffed at on an official level. That family HAS to be able to get justice somewhere. Common decency DEMANDS it.

[Anna]

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Alberto Levy has the C&C franchise or is the general manager in Aruba.  Tyler and I raked him over the coals pretty well late last night.  Someone posted once, one of those mystery hit and run posters, that he had been to prison for having sex with a 12 years old girl but think that may be a Rafael Levy who is supposedly related.

Would like to see more information on this Alberto Levy and know if in fact he is some how connected to pornography.  Not that that is illegal or anything in Aruba,    just like to know some background on the cast of characters.

 

[Anna]

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SB,
I don't think I can get too enthusiastic over a boycott of NY because they did allow Joran to be served there and the case filed.  I did not really expect it to go forward, just had a slight hope.

But it did let the Sloots know that they are NOT believed in this country as they seem to think and that they are not welcomed by many.  I think they were totally stunned as this is the first time they have encountered any actual serious law enforcement.

Also cast them as criminals in the MSM with international audience.  For all that alone it was worth the effort.  Just the look of disbelief on the face of Joran as Bo Dietl treated him like the scum that he is was worth a great deal to me.   Just wish he could have talked Jo Jo into taking a swing at him.  Something tells me that Bo doesn't fight back like a little girl.  Could have been another surprise for the Sporter but will take what I can get.