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« Reply #1660 on: June 23, 2005, 12:11:03 PM »

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Well this is really a sad sight to see today.

People, Tom and Red are getting press like there is no tomorrow and membership is skyrocketing and the best the forum's hottest thread can contain is slurs and racial bias. This is the currently the number 1 forum for Natalee Holloway discussions by most accounts. Each opinion can be wrong you don't have to agree but you can be civil and try to think about the greater good.


Seems this is the pot calling the kettle black!


How is that I have never insulted or used slurs to or about anyone on this site or the case. Not even you Nancy.
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« Reply #1661 on: June 23, 2005, 12:11:25 PM »

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ya know, i was thinking..you can get a chip to be implanted to track your pets, why cant someone get something like that for their kids??It doesnt have to be implanted ,per se, but something that has to be worn, etc..I mean, come on..we need to invent SOMETHING that can help us locate kids when they just cannot be found...just my thoughts....


That's something to Ponder


A camp nurse at a prestigious summer camp in the northeast told me last summer that some of the kids at the camp do have implants with gps. They some from extremely wealthy or prominent familie who feel this is necessary.
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« Reply #1662 on: June 23, 2005, 12:11:25 PM »

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He went to anger management too; right? I felt he was angry with her, but not because she got him into a mess by vanishing. JVDS mother said he went to anger management for kicking his brother? Denial[/quote]

I don't believe we have actual confirmation of this anywhere. Just more hearsay and speculation.
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« Reply #1663 on: June 23, 2005, 12:12:17 PM »

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Was it ever explained why BHT didn't show up for the meeting with Greta and the VDS parents?


All Greta said was that when she mentioned their 3 PM appointment with the VdSs', that BHT said she had another appointment. (Maybe her attorney recommended against it?)
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« Reply #1664 on: June 23, 2005, 12:12:33 PM »

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He went to anger management too; right? I felt he was angry with her, but not because she got him into a mess by vanishing. JVDS mother said he went to anger management for kicking his brother? Denial


I don't believe we have actual confirmation of this anywhere. Just more hearsay and speculation.[/quote]

Let me see if I can find it in print. BRB
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« Reply #1665 on: June 23, 2005, 12:12:56 PM »

Quote from: "jane"Speaking of being in the garage with the door shut, why don't you? Leave your car running while you're at it...K?[/quote


Overreacting a little, IMHO.  I just logged in and this is the first post I read.  Hope it's not going to be that kind of day.
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« Reply #1666 on: June 23, 2005, 12:13:58 PM »

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Was it ever explained why BHT didn't show up for the meeting with Greta and the VDS parents?


It wasn't ever officialy explained but I think it might have something with either her lawyer or the police advising her otherwise.


Excuse me - have I missed something - are you speaking of the meeting featured on yesterday's report - therefore a second meeting with the 2 families and Greta was arranged?
I have asked a few times yesterday about the ethics not to mention the legal implications of Greta's tactics - something does not seem quite right about Greta's tactics - albeit I am not questioning her personal good intentions, only her less laudable journalistic ambition and her questionable legal manoeuvring.
 

i get it, arrange a cat fight to raise already obscene ratings.  no ethics here, just greed and vanity.
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« Reply #1667 on: June 23, 2005, 12:15:12 PM »

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who owns the casinos in Aruba?


I recall (but am not positive) that it has been indicated that the American hotel owners own their respective casinos. This is not the case in ST. Maarten where the govt controlls the casinos.
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« Reply #1668 on: June 23, 2005, 12:15:14 PM »

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Well this is really a sad sight to see today.

People, Tom and Red are getting press like there is no tomorrow and membership is skyrocketing and the best the forum's hottest thread can contain is slurs and racial bias. This is the currently the number 1 forum for Natalee Holloway discussions by most accounts. Each opinion can be wrong you don't have to agree but you can be civil and try to think about the greater good.


Seems this is the pot calling the kettle black!


How is that I have never insulted or used slurs to or about anyone on this site or the case. Not even you Nancy.


Sorry, I agree my comment was rather uncalled for...
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« Reply #1669 on: June 23, 2005, 12:15:17 PM »

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i get it, arrange a cat fight to raise already obscene ratings.  no ethics here, just greed and vanity.[/quote]
On the money, Iquitos.
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« Reply #1670 on: June 23, 2005, 12:15:41 PM »

Hey all, had to take the baby to the doctor. Anymore real news happening or just more rumors and speculation?
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« Reply #1671 on: June 23, 2005, 12:15:54 PM »

Earlier someone printed the viewer numbers for the various networks covering this event - with FOX so obviously far out in front why would CNN and the others not immediately deploy more resources in this direction?
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« Reply #1672 on: June 23, 2005, 12:16:14 PM »

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some people are just really mean behind a computer screen.

And the wheel of a car.  Do the same you do to them:  leave them in the dust and forget them.  Btw we all apprecate your input and sorry you and others are swept up in this..


HEREZ a thought::

what if JVDS  did pick up Joran at 11 at McD"S...the two bro's picked him up to sneak over to C&CS there are gonna be hot chicks there...Natallee and Joran hook up...He says he
will take her back to hotel...NH may have at first
thought it was a cab but too late...Joran assures they are his friends...on the way the bro's mention stopping by a hot underground party...there are drugs involved...then something bad happens =
why they said they all had sex with her and Thought sh'ed show up at a crackhouse?


This is confusing, I thought the word 'had fun' was first mentioned.  Or 'vrijen' in dutch.  When and where specifically did the physical sex   come in?   I used to have a Honda accord, number 1. the backseat is fricken small, 2 as an owner of your car no one will be permitted to mess up my car.    Is it possible that fun is just kissing and neckin?


I can't imagine that they did more than that with his FRIENDS in the front seat. She wouldn't have sex with him willingly, but I'm sure it was making out, and that's all. I just can't see him being like...hey...I think I'll rape her...in front of my friends....doesn't make sense.


No it doesn't.  I think the story is true as far as it goes; they may have been smooching in the back of the car.  Then we get the sex claims.  The only way this makes sense is if all three somehow expect their dna to by on her IF she's found:  the rape scenario.   It also means they aren't 100% sure that she won't be found.


Ok the sex claims to my knowledge have no foundation as of yet.  Their were a few reports to that effect early on, but they basically disappeared about a week into the case and were replaced, with kissing and fondling.  No credible source to my knowledge is saying that their was any romantic activity between the natalee and the two brothers.
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« Reply #1673 on: June 23, 2005, 12:16:34 PM »

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Was it ever explained why BHT didn't show up for the meeting with Greta and the VDS parents?


All Greta said was that when she mentioned their 3 PM appointment with the VdSs', that BHT said she had another appointment. (Maybe her attorney recommended against it?)


Greta did add that she got the feeling Beth may have been counseled not to attend the meeting.
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« Reply #1674 on: June 23, 2005, 12:18:19 PM »

[He went to anger management too; right? I felt he was angry with her, but not because she got him into a mess by vanishing. JVDS mother said he went to anger management for kicking his brother? Denial[/quote]

What she said was he had a confrontation with one of his school mates that was resolved by talking to the parents of the boy.  I didn't hear any confirmation of his attending anger management, that was the question from Greta....did I miss something here?
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« Reply #1675 on: June 23, 2005, 12:18:54 PM »

Hello everyone.. Anything new? I have been away from the tv and pc this morning..I did watch greta last night with JVS parents.. aside form that then I fell asleep..lol  Havnt had the tv on today at all.. and I did kind of feel bad for JVS mom.. she looked rough..and very upset..truly upset IMO...  thanks!
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« Reply #1676 on: June 23, 2005, 12:19:34 PM »

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[He went to anger management too; right? I felt he was angry with her, but not because she got him into a mess by vanishing. JVDS mother said he went to anger management for kicking his brother? Denial
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What she said was he had a confrontation with one of his school mates that was resolved by talking to the parents of the boy.  I didn't hear any confirmation of his attending anger management, that was the question from Greta....did I miss something here?[/quote]

Their was confirmation of the anger managment thing the night before I believe. Mrs. VDS said that mr Vds was gone and that joran had become obnoxious so he was sent their.
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« Reply #1677 on: June 23, 2005, 12:19:38 PM »

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Earlier someone printed the viewer numbers for the various networks covering this event - with FOX so obviously far out in front why would CNN and the others not immediately deploy more resources in this direction?


Because CNN and MSNBC both have healthier more well rounded news reports!!!  Even Fox had Marvin Kalb on with a commentary indicating the same thing.  While we love the intense coverage done by Fox, a good news editor would never approve devoting this amount of time to this one story.  Yes, it's very important...but, given the huge stories going on around the world this was in a ways down the list.

We're in a war where kids are dying everyday...
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« Reply #1678 on: June 23, 2005, 12:19:43 PM »

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Was it ever explained why BHT didn't show up for the meeting with Greta and the VDS parents?


I heard yesterday-Greta asked BHT to go--but she had prior engagements at 3 or 3:30--they waited (i think) for a call from the VDS to come over-when they called it was too late and would interfere with her prior engagement so she told Greta she was unable to go!

I believe Greta said that BHT's lawyer recommended that she not go back to the VDS residence
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« Reply #1679 on: June 23, 2005, 12:19:47 PM »

I said last week that it seems that Aruba gets a slow start in the week news wise. Does anyone else think that starting this afternoon that the weekly ramp up we have seen 3 weeks in a row will happen for what we get out of there?
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