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« Reply #800 on: June 23, 2005, 12:04:04 AM »

-mbhs05- Can I ask you a question? Why did you not go on the trip? Everyone I know that has children would NEVER had let their kids go on that trip, especially without Chaperones. Since it was NOT school sponsored. Was there a school sponsored trip planned for the seniors? Just questions, nothing insinuated by them. I hope Schrushy pays for his theft....he put lots of people out of work....and what about the Charlie's Angel ? Have you fogotten about her and her home town, take a look around she is NEAR-BY....

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« Reply #801 on: June 23, 2005, 12:04:44 AM »

I'm so sick of the rumors and misinformation I can't stand it.  I'm saying a prayer for Nat at 12:10 EST and going to bed.  Please join me in a prayer if you'd like.  See you all in the AM.
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« Reply #802 on: June 23, 2005, 12:04:57 AM »

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Sleuths and sleuthettes! How's it going tonight?!

OK, been reading for hours trying to catch up, but to sum it up (in no particular order) we have:

1. The prison is not like mid. ex. and a new shiny one is about to open
2. They serve tea at the prison (so bizarre)
3. All 3 amigos are going to be put together and questioned
4. Last time all 3 were together was when they were first arrested
5. Joran wanted to talk to Beth and step dad 24 hours after Natalee last seen. dad there. mom not. joran gets snippy with beth.
6. joran wants to look for natalee with rest of island. dad says no.
7. there is a dump near or in back of the v.d. sloot house and a pond which hasn't been searched near the kalpoe home
8. there's a feud going on between the v.d. sloots and kalpoe family
9. we think deepak deals X and roofies
10. men in black (guards) from the soul after party may have kidnapped natalee and put her in a trunk to ship her to another island
11. Natalee meets Joran one or two days before end of trip -- at the casino in the H.I.
12. Joran gets in scuffle with Mnt. Brook. kids outside CnC on that last night
13. mamma sloot in denial about son. thinks he doesn't drink but may be she thinks he doesn't do drugs (greta interview unclear)
14. Aruban bloggers say Croes supplied Deepak with roofies which killed Natalee -- possible gang rape
15. Joran had sex with natalee and left her sleeping on the beach but didn't want to tell anyone he had sex with her because even though the dutch don't think having sex all the time is a bad thing, joran picks this time to feel embarrassed about it (?!)
16. dad holloway thinks papa v.d. sloot is involved
17. Deepak email letter is getting a big following

Have I missed anything?


Maybe you and Cali and Dallas could get together and write one of these in this format like twice a day. We could put it several places.
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« Reply #803 on: June 23, 2005, 12:04:58 AM »

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I am new to this board and this is my first post.  I found the following information  from an Aruban  newspaper dated June 4th stating that the 3 boys admitting having sex with NH. I was wondering if anyone knows how reliable this newspaper might be, trying to determine if the information is credible. The link is provided.
Thanks.

   http://www.arubaam.com/~victor/am04jun05.pdf

"Police officers in a helicopter and in all terrain vehicles combed the area behind the lighthouse from Arashi to Westpunt in search for Natalee Holloway....Authorities decided to comb the above mentioned area after interrogating the three young men that were last seen with Natalee. The three young men declared that the took Natalee to that area, had sex with her, and then dropped her at the Holiday Inn Resort. The security cameras of the resort however do not show her entering the hotel at any time that evening. As a result of this the three witnesses who saw her last now become suspects."


This is a post that explains the bold above. Please keep in mind that the info above was from the original account.

Posted on: 11:38 pm, Jun 12, 2005 on TripAdvisor

This is interesting and I believe it has been a translation thing:
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                June 12th, 2005 at 11:09 pm
               
                Before the boys dropped allegedly dropped off Holloway at her hotel, they went to Arashi. At the beach Van der Sloot and Holloway were allegdly fooling* around in the backseat [*���vrijen��� cover a multitude of ---ual acts, from kissing to having ---.], while the brothers Kalpe were sitting in the front seat of the car. Van der Sloot already knew Natalee from the day before when they would have met in the casino of the Holiday Inn.
               
                ���������������
               
                This was from Riehl WOrld View, I think it explains the different reports regarding what happened in the car. If this was the word in the report from the suspects then we might not no the extent of the contact for some time.
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« Reply #804 on: June 23, 2005, 12:05:07 AM »

Guys, I'm going to bed, as I've got work to do in the morning.

It was cool talking with everyone and MBH05, hang in there.
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« Reply #805 on: June 23, 2005, 12:06:11 AM »

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Guys, I'm going to bed, as I've got work to do in the morning.

It was cool talking with everyone and MBH05, hang in there.


nite arubagirl.
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« Reply #806 on: June 23, 2005, 12:06:13 AM »

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Sleuths and sleuthettes! How's it going tonight?!


I would avoid that tag here Smile


I have a lisp so when I say "sleuths and sleuthettes" it sounds like sluts and slutettes.  Shocked
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« Reply #807 on: June 23, 2005, 12:06:28 AM »

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Writenow - thanks for the great recap.


good news....dr phil is on jay leno....
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« Reply #808 on: June 23, 2005, 12:06:29 AM »

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-mbhs05- Can I ask you a question? Why did you not go on the trip? Everyone I know that has children would NEVER had let their kids go on that trip, especially without Chaperones. Since it was NOT school sponsored. Was there a school sponsored trip planned for the seniors? Just questions, nothing insinuated by them. I hope Schrushy pays for his theft....he put lots of people out of work....and what about the Charlie's Angel ? Have you fogotten about her and her home town, take a look around she is NEAR-BY....

GuyWdog


I didn't go for financial reasons, but my parents probably would've said no anyway. It's been going on for 3 years, so they didn't say no immediately, but they were wary...they're very protective, 'cause I'm oldest and I'm a girl...the guinea pig child. There wasn't a school sponsored trip...our school does NOT do overnight trips. And I hope he does too...greed is a really bad vice.
Charlie's Angel? Huh?
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« Reply #809 on: June 23, 2005, 12:06:38 AM »

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“But they are reading it all check out the lurker numbers.”

You caught me and yes, I have been lurking most of the day, with my jaw on the floor I might add, for a number of reasons.

1.   I won’t post for fear of being attacked.
2.   I have no desire to get into the flaming going on tonight.  What began as such a fine group and support forum has quickly turned into a complete nightmare.
3.   FYI – the talk and “chat” on this board far surpasses ANYTHING I have heard here in town.  You have 2 scenarios – Natalee is alive or she’s not.  That really about sums it up and the only, and I mean only, thing we can do is support her family.

Another thing I find interesting is that I posted a couple of days ago offering to purchase the blue “Hope for Natalee” bracelets (the entire proceeds of which are going to help offset the family’s expenses) for anyone that wanted one.  One person asked me to do so.

I won’t leave.  I am just waiting for things to calm down.  If you saw Beth on Greta tonight, you may understand what a kind, compassionate and graceful woman she is.  I don’t know Natalee, but how could the apple NOT fall far from that tree?

I am speaking only for myself (not for anybody else in this community, her classmates or her family) in what I stated above.


Thanks for posting that.  Are YOU the guy that I thought mbhs05 was, lol?  Also a Dash neighbor?  Bless your heart about the bracelets.  I didn't know the response was so little.

Can you get Scared-Tom or Red to make you a sticky note for the top of the forum, with BIG LETTERS?

I can't buy anything or donate anything to anyone or from anyone and I'm very sorry about that, because any other time in my life I'd have been helping you out a bunch.  {{{Hugss}}}
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« Reply #810 on: June 23, 2005, 12:06:54 AM »

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Guys, I'm going to bed, as I've got work to do in the morning.

It was cool talking with everyone and MBH05, hang in there.


Night!
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« Reply #811 on: June 23, 2005, 12:07:55 AM »

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Sleuths and sleuthettes! How's it going tonight?!

OK, been reading for hours trying to catch up, but to sum it up (in no particular order) we have:

1. The prison is not like mid. ex. and a new shiny one is about to open
2. They serve tea at the prison (so bizarre)
3. All 3 amigos are going to be put together and questioned
4. Last time all 3 were together was when they were first arrested
5. Joran wanted to talk to Beth and step dad 24 hours after Natalee last seen. dad there. mom not. joran gets snippy with beth.
6. joran wants to look for natalee with rest of island. dad says no.
7. there is a dump near or in back of the v.d. sloot house and a pond which hasn't been searched near the kalpoe home
8. there's a feud going on between the v.d. sloots and kalpoe family
9. we think deepak deals X and roofies
10. men in black (guards) from the soul after party may have kidnapped natalee and put her in a trunk to ship her to another island
11. Natalee meets Joran one or two days before end of trip -- at the casino in the H.I.
12. Joran gets in scuffle with Mnt. Brook. kids outside CnC on that last night
13. mamma sloot in denial about son. thinks he doesn't drink but may be she thinks he doesn't do drugs (greta interview unclear)
14. Aruban bloggers say Croes supplied Deepak with roofies which killed Natalee -- possible gang rape
15. Joran had sex with natalee and left her sleeping on the beach but didn't want to tell anyone he had sex with her because even though the dutch don't think having sex all the time is a bad thing, joran picks this time to feel embarrassed about it (?!)
16. dad holloway thinks papa v.d. sloot is involved
17. Deepak email letter is getting a big following

Have I missed anything?


Maybe you and Cali and Dallas could get together and write one of these in this format like twice a day. We could put it several places.


I second that.  you could save me hours of catching up each day, I would be eternally grateful, and so would my family.
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« Reply #812 on: June 23, 2005, 12:08:09 AM »

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Sleuths and sleuthettes! How's it going tonight?!


I would avoid that tag here Smile


I have a lisp so when I say "sleuths and sleuthettes" it sounds like sluts and slutettes.  Shocked


Sweet Smile
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« Reply #813 on: June 23, 2005, 12:08:09 AM »

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Quote from: "martin connahey"
KackyLacky, Perforator, and Red:

RED:Yes, MM's post contains some points that I don't agree with, but also many others that are enlightening, from numerous sources. Also has lots of links to other sites that discuss case. We aren't the only game in town.

Kacky:
If you've read the book, I'll accept that opinion as an informed one. I've read it, I've lived in Japan ( long-term ), studied the topic widely, and realize she has a point. But, let's all remember that FDR was the architect of the Jap internment, ag the (nearly) sole dissent of a young Barry Goldwater.

Perforator:
There could be TONS of valuable info in what the MBHS kiddies know. It goes to her intentions, state-of-mind, etc. Definitely COULD help in finding her. Suppose nh confided in a classmate that she had a secret dream to go caving, or was pregnant, or was heavily into one or another drug. This would be predictive of her movements, conversations, malleability, and turn the search to some more specific locations, suspects, and theories. ALL info in a situ like this is good, mainly because we don't know its value until it has aged a bit. To cut off a productive avenue is silly and senseless, unless of course one is not interested in finding the missing person.

--MC


MM is far from what other have disparaged her as. She has always been a friend of the Monkey. However, you may want to take a look at the tone of her article. "We aren't the only game in town." You mean Scared Monkeys? We live in the blog world of MM and have linked and had stories linked by her. Trust me on this one ... when MM writes ..."If you are interested" that is not a positive comment.

No one claimed to be the only gig in town, this site has thrown out more names of blogs covering the story here, on radio & TV pieces. We link to many of them all the time on a daily basis.

We report on this to some how help in what ever way we can even if its to keep the story visible to the MSM does not move on without having this solved. Trust me when I say there are many that do not deem this a worthy story. Luckily Scared Monkeys (Tom & Red) thought enough to devote the time, energy and resources to do so.


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« Reply #814 on: June 23, 2005, 12:08:23 AM »

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NOT Everyone in Mountain Brook is BEAUTIFUL. There is also GreyStone, Liberty Park, so the Beautiful people are spread out over the WEALTHY Map....of the "B'Ham"....Wasn't there a Song "beautiful people" ????



well you know, the wealthier you are, the better looking you are, right?


Um...


i thought you wanted to joke around?sheesh...
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« Reply #815 on: June 23, 2005, 12:09:21 AM »

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Just got this from the Ian, our buddy who posts videos

Hey Guys:
 
You may be interested in this video:
 
http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/06/22/1767/
 
Tito Lacle, a reporter from Aruba Today tells us what Joran changed.


TOM PRETTY INCREDIBLE!!!


Whoa -- this says Satish is the older brother?!
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« Reply #816 on: June 23, 2005, 12:09:28 AM »

Sorry to hear about your lost sandy...

And you are absolutly right, you can`t judge people on how they behave if you`re never been in there situation.
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« Reply #817 on: June 23, 2005, 12:09:42 AM »

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So Absolut is your husband/significant other/child/parent...whoa...maybe we shouldn't hide; now I am really confused ConfusedHusband.  And a damned fine one at that, even if he just a young buck Wink


what a hoot!
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« Reply #818 on: June 23, 2005, 12:09:54 AM »

Thanks, think about it the Original Charlies Angel, she lives in-town her sister is in crestline, looks EXACTLY like her, now she's Kewl....take care and keep the faith...

nighty night

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« Reply #819 on: June 23, 2005, 12:10:58 AM »

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Thanks, think about it the Original Charlies Angel, she lives in-town her sister is in crestline, looks EXACTLY like her, now she's Kewl....take care and keep the faith...

nighty night

GuyWdog


I don't know what the originals look like...sigh...how sad is that? I need to be pop culture educated.

Gernight!
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