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« Reply #40 on: April 07, 2018, 10:44:04 PM »

TERRI'S CELL PHONE RECORDS

BLINK ON CRIME - APRIL 2018

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

35. .... April 3, 2018 at 3:55 am

EXCERPT


I say again- anyone suggesting their is/are cell phone pings belonging to any device TH may or may not have had on June 4th 2010 that contradict her travel account for that day is being untruthful. .... B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-100/#comments

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/


THE DISCONNECT

DESIREE - JANUARY 2016

Desiree Young says Terri Horman's interview made 'her heart hurt'
January 21st 2016

EXCERPT


"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day.  She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that.  Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision.  We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline. We know who did this. We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."

http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt


DESIREE AND TONY - JULY 2016

Little Boy Lost
Dateline NBC
July 26, 2016

EXCERPT


KATE SNOW: Tony and Desiree say the biggest question marks revolved around Terri's whereabouts that morning that Kyron went missing.

DESIREE YOUNG: She couldn't explain to them for about two hours worth of time where she was or what she was doing.

SNOW:  And there was something else that gave Desiree and Tony a sinking feeling that something wasn't right. They say Terri's cell phone records apparently didn't match up with where she said she was on the morning of Kyron's disappearance.

TONY YOUNG: That to me is strike two. That's huge… There's starting to be some structural problems with what she's saying at that point. And then it continues to stack up.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38420266/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/little-boy-lost/#.V-lxK_krLX4


REMINDER

MCSO STATEMENT - JUNE 2013

Kaine, MCSO committed to 'bringing Kyron home'
July 30, 2013

EXCERPT


Just minutes before Kaine Horman's news conference, the Multnomah County Sheriff's Office sent out the following statement on the Kyron Horman missing person's case:

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.

"In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."

http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosav

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« Reply #41 on: April 08, 2018, 10:10:33 AM »

Hi Janet,

You are welcome.

A relative of his passed away a few months ago.
His FB is in Spanish (I translated) he was accepting condolences. The relative who passed was either his mom or on her side family, imo.

He is educated and sounds like he has a good job, according to free info under his full given name.  
I have a hunch they dressed as Elvis Presley & Priscilla at the chapel. He has Elvis style side -burns in a photo on her FB page.

http://websites.vivalasvegasweddings.com/index.php/find-a-wedding/14598?view=website

https://clerk.clarkcountynv.gov/AcclaimWeb/search/SearchTypeSimpleSearch


Thank-you for the updated information. The first time I saw the Easter picture of the children together.
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« Reply #42 on: April 08, 2018, 06:18:33 PM »

Hi Seahorse.  It is my prayer on behalf of Desiree, Tony and Kaine that there will be an indictment forthcoming in the near future.  Terri?  There is a measure of justice.  She has not embraced her beautiful little daughter in almost eight years.  That alone must be a literal h--- on Earth.

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/a.462300267193233.1073741826.161645780592018/1645562972200284/?type=3

Anyways ...

A photo of Jesus Vazquez and Terri together was posted on the World Soldiers website in October 2017.  It appears that Terri was going by last name "Vazquez" in October 2017

https://m.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/a.462300267193233.1073741826.161645780592018/1473292419427341/?type=3&source=48&__tn__=EH-R

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1472418676181382&id=161645780592018&__tn__=%2As%2As-R

https://www.facebook.com/jvmtz33/about?lst=1654340617%3A1101712874%3A1508580809

https://m.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/a.462300267193233.1073741826.161645780592018/1472446452845271/?type=3&source=48&__tn__=EHH-R

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« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2018, 06:50:26 AM »

It's a matter of time for legal justice.    

I still believe when both sets of parents pass
someone will eventually  open up simply for
being greedy. There is still a 50,000 reward.
  
My opinion is 007 is slick but not as bright as she thinks she is.  This  is a game to her.

She was asking how to unlock a (certain type) phone on her FB page, this was a few days ago. I wonder if the phone was hers.  I would think her FB would be private. 

Mr. V has a very eerie profile pic of a fortune teller on his FB, it is on the third link that you provided. T.Y.

Have a good day to everyone. 
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« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2018, 11:53:19 AM »

O/T ... sorta

Seahorse

Facebook?  So far ... I choose not to do Facebook or Twitter.  Up to 1 1/2 years ago I chose not to have a cell phone.  In August 2016 hubby had a heart attack and at that time grown kids purchased a cell ... not iphone ... with all their contact numbers as well as other family members, friends and emergency.  Hubby and I renewed the contract one year later and we never go anywhere without it.  We still have our landline so ... the cell is rarely used.  When daughter and I go out for dinner ... I ask her to leave her iphone in her vehicle.  Her need to be "connected" every five minutes implies we would never have a chance to talk.  Twenty and eighteen year old grandsons live with us while they attend the local Christian University.  Their iphones are attached to them at all times.  I have learned to pick my battles and those iphones are not one of them.

Anyways ... one of the upsides of not having an iphone or having a Facebook or Twitter account ... if I were inclined to commit a crime my motivations or movements could not be traced electronically.  I think.  LOL

Seahorse ... have a good day.

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DESIREE - JANUARY 2016

Desiree Young says Terri Horman's interview made 'her heart hurt'
January 21st 2016

EXCERPT


"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day.  She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that.  Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision.  We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline. We know who did this. We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."

http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt


DESIREE AND TONY - JULY 2010

Little Boy Lost
Dateline NBC
July 26, 2010

EXCERPT


KATE SNOW: Tony and Desiree say the biggest question marks revolved around Terri's whereabouts that morning that Kyron went missing.

DESIREE YOUNG: She couldn't explain to them for about two hours worth of time where she was or what she was doing.

SNOW:  And there was something else that gave Desiree and Tony a sinking feeling that something wasn't right. They say Terri's cell phone records apparently didn't match up with where she said she was on the morning of Kyron's disappearance.

TONY YOUNG: That to me is strike two. That's huge… There's starting to be some structural problems with what she's saying at that point. And then it continues to stack up.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38420266/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/little-boy-lost/#.V-lxK_krLX4
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« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2018, 03:12:38 PM »

HIGHWAY 30

Bottom Line!!!  Terri Horman concedes in a January 2016 ABC Nightline interview that she was driving on Highway 30 on the morning of June 4, 2010 ... the morning Kyron Horman went missing.

Bottom Line!!! A witness observed Terri Horman in her white pickup exiting a side street north of Logie Trail Road onto Highway 30 ... Logie Trail Road which is located across from Sauvie Island.

HWY 30 -2010

Kyron Horman investigation: Transcript of interview with Sheriff Dan Staton
July 02, 2010

EXCERPT


Jung: "There are a couple of other things that we had heard. One: Sauvie Island, that there were cell phone pings from Terri Horman's cell phone that pinpointed her on being Sauvie Island the day of Kyron's disappearance. Can you talk about that at all?"

Staton: "That portion of the investigation I can't talk about. I'm sorry."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/kyron_horman_investigation_tra.html


Complete coverage of the Kyron Horman investigation
Published: 6/04/2010 8:18 pm
Last Update: 10/04/2010 6:53 am


EXCERPT
 
Also Sunday, a man who asked not to be shown on camera, expressed his frustration about the Kyron Horman tipline.

“Chas” said he has called the tip line twice, but hadn’t heard back. He was concerned other people’s tips, like his, were not checked on.

Chas said he saw Terri Horman the day Kyron mysteriously vanished.

“I was on my way to work, driving down Highway 30,” said “Chas.”

It was Friday, June 4th, sometime between 9:15 and 9:45 in the morning. “Chas” was heading south on Highway 30, on his way to work when a white truck pulled out onto the road.

"It came out of one of these side streets, I am not exactly positive which one, but I am pretty much sure that it was north of Logie Trail road.”

Logie Trail Road is right across from Sauvie Island. One of the areas investigators have searched several times.

"I recognize that truck because I have a friend that has a similar truck and I thought it was him.”

But when “Chas” pulled up next to this truck, he saw that it wasn't his friend, it was a red-haired woman, he didn't recognize.

He later realized that “red-haired” woman was Terri Horman.

“I didn't really think anything of it, obviously at that time there was no reason to.”

“Chas” said he’s been following Kyron’s disappearance since day 1, and when police released the flier asking the public to come forward with any information if they had seen Terri Horman or the white truck the day Kyron disappeared. That’s when “Chas” remembered back to June 4th and called the tip line.

“The next day, I called again, and gave a little bit more detailed information because in the back of my mind I was thinking maybe I didn’t give enough information.”

Now 10 days later, “Chas” was left feeling a little frustrated. ....
http://www.koinlocal6.com/mostpopular/story/Terri-wants-money-to-move-out-Kyron-Horman/Dz4uMChK60KCWjy3W5FG4Q.cspx?p=10


Kyron Horman search wraps up as disappearance case now moves to criminal investigation
June 13, 2010

EXCERPT


Searchers also have focused on Sauvie Island, about a 6-mile drive from the rescue base camp on Northwest Quarry Road near the school. ....

Video footage: The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office is seeking video of traffic on 15 Portland roads taken June 3 and June 4, the day Kyron Horman disappeared. Call the search tip line and leave your contact information and the location or street address where you took the footage.

The streets: Northwest Cornelius Pass Road, Northwest Germantown Road, Northwest Logie Trail Road, Northwest Rocky Point Road, Northwest Skyline Road, Northwest 185th Avenue, Northwest West Union Road, Northwest Springville Road, Bethany Boulevard, Northwest Newberry Road, Northwest McNamee Road, U.S. 30 between Northwest Rocky Point Road to Northwest Germantown Road, Northwest Kaiser Road, Northwest Thompson Road, Northwest Laidlaw Road.

Tip line: 503-261-2847
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_search_wraps_up_a.html


HWY 30 - 2016

Terri Horman Details What Happened to Her After Stepson's Disappearance
January 25, 2016

Video: 4:30

EXCEPT


Interviewer:  Much of the media speculation about her whereabouts that day centers here on Sauvie Island where police repeatedly searched.  There were widespread but unconfirmed reports that her cell phone was pinging from that location during that unaccounted time.

Terri:  Highway 30 runs parallel to Sauvie Island.  I was on Highway 30.  I was never on Sauvie Island.  Never.
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/terri-horman-details-happened-stepsons-disappearance-36518300


Last Known Person To See 7-Year-Old Kyron Horman – Where Does She Think He Is?
September 22, 2016

Video: .20


Terri:  "One exonerating thing that the public is not aware of is that on June 3rd there was a man in a white pick up truck Ford and it was parked at the 7/11 on Highway 30 near the school.  He was acting very strangely.  He was addressed by one of the employees who asked what he was doing there.  He had been pacing back and forth in front of the 7/11 for about an hour. .... I do know these witnesses this man ask the employee where the nearest school was and that employee told him Skyline.  This is the day before.  After all this happened other employee who was working there that day contacted the police that there was a strange guy there ... there was a tape ... did they want to see it.  The cops went over there and viewed the tape.  They were asked if they wanted the tape but said they "were good".  They didn't even take the tape."  
http://www.drphil.com/videos/last-known-person-to-see-7-year-old-kyron-horman-where-does-she-think-he-is/


Terri Horman tells Dr. Phil Kyron was abducted by man in a white pickup
September 22, 2016

EXCERPT


Terri Horman, whose stepson Kyron has been missing for six years, told Dr. Phillip McGraw on his talk show Thursday that she believes the boy was kidnapped by a man in a white pickup truck.

It's the first time Terri has publicly shared what she believes happened to Kyron on June 4, 2010 after she says she dropped the boy off at Skyline Elementary School. She told McGraw that employees at a 7-Eleven on Highway 30 spotted a suspicious man lurking around.

At one point, Terri Horman said, the man asked where the nearest school was. An employee told him about Skyline.

Terri Horman says a 7-Eleven employee informed police about the suspicious man, but that nobody ever followed up on the tip.
http://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2016/09/terri_horman_tells_dr_phil_kyron_was_abducted.html


Multnomah County Sheriff's Office mum on Terri Horman's claims on Dr. Phil
September 22, 2016

EXCERPT


Alexander did confirm deputies conducted a search over the weekend near the Wildwood Golf Course off of U.S. 30 in connection with the case.

"Details on what investigators were searching for is not available," Alexander said.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/09/multnomah_county_sheriffs_offi_18.html#incart_river_index_topics

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« Reply #46 on: April 19, 2018, 12:47:20 PM »

KYRON'S TEACHER - CHRISTINE PORTER

ACCORDING TO BLINK

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

34.  April 18, 2018 at 1:43 pm

EXCERPT


I have never seen any evidence personally that Porter in any way “facilitated” Kyron’s disappearance- but to be fair- she as well as other adults that were in contact with Kyron after Terri left have never been thoroughly investigated to exclude the possibility- and that is not just my opinion- it is part of the court record. IT IS my opinion that she was negligent in her duties of Kyron’s standard of care on June 4 2010 and I don’t know how anyone could disagree with that-
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-101/#comments

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/


THE DISCONNECT

ACCORDING TO KYRON'S MOTHER

Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015


"Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's."
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&r


Desiree Davidson Young - November, 2015

"It was exactly between 8:45 and 8:55.  He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school."
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/


THINK ABOUT IT

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013
"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.  In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."

http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa


ACCORDING TO OFFICIAL SOURCES

Matt Shelby - June 7, 2010


Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.  He said it was common for parents to pick up kids this way, so no suspicions were raised.
http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=28


Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010

The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. .... However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


Jason Gates - June 21, 2010

There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.
http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


Matt Shelby - June 21, 2010

"Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html

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« Reply #47 on: April 19, 2018, 01:14:42 PM »

THIS IS THE MOMENT

Desiree Davidson Young - May 21, 2015


"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school, down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?"

"I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971


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« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2018, 09:36:34 AM »

TERRI HORMAN REMARRIES

Terri Horman, Kyron Horman's stepmother, remarries in Nevada
Author: Kyle Iboshi
April 20, 2018

EXCERPT


PORTLAND, Ore. – Kyron Horman’s stepmother has remarried.

Court records show Terri Moulton, also known as Terri Horman, married Jose De Jesus Vazquez Martinez in Clark County, Nevada on March 17, 2018.

Moulton’s last marriage, to Kyron Horman’s father, Kaine Horman, ended with a divorce and restraining order shortly after Kyron’s disappearance.
http://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/kyron-horman/terri-horman-kyron-hormans-stepmother-remarries-in-nevada/283-543779185

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2018/04/terri_horman_stepmom_of_missin.html
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« Reply #49 on: April 21, 2018, 09:45:57 AM »

ACCORDING TO DESIREE: SEVERAL MFH PLOTS

Desiree Young - July 11, 2014

"DA's Office will prosecute for all the Murder for Hire plots (Oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first. The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516


REMINDER - THE ALLEGED MFH PLOTS

According to Desiree there are several MFH allegations?  What are the chances?  In 2010, 2009 and 1990 respectively Terri Horman is alleged to have initiated MFH plots against her then husband and her then boyfriend.

1.  THE ALLEGED 1990 MFH PLOT - TERRI'S BOYFRIEND

Kyron Horman's mom wants charges filed against Terri Horman in murder-for-hire plot
April 19, 2017

EXCERPT


The mother of Kyron Horman wants prosecutors in Roseburg to charge Terri Horman for a decades-old murder-for-hire plot.  “I want them to hold her accountable,” said Desiree Young, the missing boy’s biological mother. “I want people to understand what she is capable of.”

Young said detectives made her aware of the murder-for-hire allegations several years ago.

“We’ve been waiting patiently for Douglas County DA’s office to do something with this since 2011,” said Young. “I want the DA’s office to do something.”
http://www.krem.com/article/news/local/northwest/kyron-hormans-mom-wants-charges-filed-against-terri-horman-in-murder-for-hire-plot/432593185


2.  THE ALLEGED 2009 MFH PLOT - TERRI'S HUSBAND

Family members respond to questions about Kyron
July 6, 2010

EXCERPT


Police have confirmed a report that Terri Horman tried to pay another as yet unnamed landscaper to kill her husband, Kaine Horman, in 2009. That landscaper reportedly contacted police after the alleged murder for hire offer. ....
http://www.katu.com/news/local/97845894.html

http://idahonews.com/news/local/family-members-respond-to-questions-about-kyron-11-16-2015


3. THE ALLEGED 2010 MFH PLOT - TERRI'S HUSBAND

Kaine Horman - July 8, 2010

"I believe the respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010. I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probably cause to believe the above two statements are true."
http://www.kptv.com/news/24186798/detail.html

http://www.kptv.com/download/2010/0708/24186795.pdf


Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010

19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF


Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to get rid of her husband: court records
December 9, 2013


EXCERPT

Five months before Kyron's disappearance, Terri Horman invited Sanchez to a restaurant. Terri Horman told the landscaper her husband was abusive and asked Sanchez to help her find someone to "get rid" of Kaine Horman, Engel wrote in court papers. .... Sanchez refused to take part.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/12/landscaper_says_terri_horman_w.html


Deposition of Rodolfo Sanchez - Page 6
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/hormancourtdocs12162013.pdf

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html

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« Reply #50 on: April 29, 2018, 05:03:19 PM »

ELECTRONICS

Considering Terri's exposed electronic revelations from the past ... BOC's words in her comment make sense.  Nevertheless ... think about the underlying implication.  It is concerning.

LOGIC DICTATES

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

48.  April 23, 2018 at 12:58 pm


EXCERPT

I think Terri is plenty savvy these days about who can and cant access things on social media. I also think she operates under the auspice that all of her communication devices are likely being monitored by LE- legally or illegally.  B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-101/#comments


FLASHBACK

2010


Kyron Horman's Mother Speaks Out
11/15/2010

VIDEO EXCERPT


On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

Desiree: It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron.
http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247

Transcript - H/T - BeanE - Websleuths


Missing Kyron's Dad Points Finger at Stepmom
11/19/2010

VIDEO EXCERPT


Reporter: Have you seen the emails that are being talked about where Terri allegedly talks about hurting Kyron?

Kaine: Yeah, well, I, I've seen them. Yes.

Reporter: What is in those emails?

Kaine: I'm not gonna talk about it. It's information that's supposed to be confidential to the investigation, and...
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-kyrons-dad-points-finger-stepmom-12189940?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=11128091&page=1

Transcript - H/T - BeanE - Websleuths


Little Boy Lost
Dateline NBC
July 26, 2010

EXCERPT


KATE SNOW: Tony and Desiree say the biggest question marks revolved around Terri's whereabouts that morning that Kyron went missing.

DESIREE YOUNG: She couldn't explain to them for about two hours worth of time where she was or what she was doing.

SNOW:  And there was something else that gave Desiree and Tony a sinking feeling that something wasn't right. They say Terri's cell phone records apparently didn't match up with where she said she was on the morning of Kyron's disappearance.

TONY YOUNG: That to me is strike two. That's huge… There's starting to be some structural problems with what she's saying at that point. And then it continues to stack up.
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/38420266/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/little-boy-lost/#.V-lxK_krLX4


Kaine Horman calls his estranged wife 'severely emotionally disturbed,' releases more texts between Terri Horman and Michael Cook
October 25, 2010

EXCERPT


Kaine Horman argued in court files today that his estranged wife, Terri Moulton Horman, is an "emotionally disturbed individual focused on her own needs rather than the needs of Kiara or my missing Kyron."....

He included as exhibits back-and-forth text messages between Terri Horman and his high school friend, Michael Cook, in which his estranged wife wonders if she's "going to get any ever again....," and sent photos of her breast and of her masturbating.

"It is deeply concerning that while Kyron was missing and the media was trying to assist us, Respondent was engaged in such behavior,'' Kaine Horman wrote in his affidavit.

Kaine Horman said the text messages continued after she was forced out of their home on Northwest Sheltered Nook Road. ....
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/redacted-text-messages.PDF


2011

Entire Desiree Young press conference in Roseburg
Feb 22, 2011

VIDEO EXCERPT (4:00)


Question:  You have said that Terri is responsible.  Could you explain what you base that on.

Desiree Young: Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person.  She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life.
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop


2016

Desiree Young says Terri Horman's interview made 'her heart hurt'
January 21st 2016

EXCERPT


"I feel like she betrayed Kyron's trust that day.  She betrayed his love. I don't think she has a right to call him her son and only because she is responsible for his kidnapping and there's no way around that.  Terri hasn't been the only focus. Law enforcement has been very thorough about ruling people out. They don't have tunnel vision.  We got to Terri because of Terri. We got to Terri because of all of her emails and all of her GPS information on her phone and all of the eyewitness accounts that were conflicting with her timeline. We know who did this. We know who's involved and we know the basic circumstances. I know that fate will step in."
http://katu.com/news/local/desiree-young-kyron-hormans-mom-says-terri-hormans-interview-made-her-heart-hurt


2017

New details in the search for Kyron Horman
May 15, 2017

EXCERPTS


“They are working computer forensic information and evidence that they’ve gotten that’s come to light recently."

"We’re pretty excited about the work that they are doing, the level of work and the amount that’s been going  on,” said Kaine Horman, Kyron’s father.  “It’s still extremely busy.”

Multnomah County investigators declined to provide details about the new evidence. A source with knowledge of the investigation said police recently examined a laptop computer that used to belong to Kyron’s stepmother, Terri Horman.
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/new-details-in-the-search-for-kyron-horman/439863859




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« Reply #51 on: April 30, 2018, 04:09:49 PM »

Desiree ... waiting on God's timing is sometimes sooo difficult.  Faith is tested.  I am not privy to what investigators have shared with you and Kaine regarding the happenings that are known encompassing that fateful morning but the implication from your words is that you both have been assured in ongoing briefings that in all probability you will once again embrace your son.  With love, Janet

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013
"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.  In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."
http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa



WILL TODAY BE THE DAY?

Desiree Young - June 29, 2010
"I believe that he s stashed I believe it's the investigation that's going to lead us [to him]."
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11755380/


Desiree Young - March 5, 2011
"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, He will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when He feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home."
https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD/photos/a.149091225123584.27207.145821285450578


Desiree Young - September 2013
"I am 150 percent confident that Terri Horman should be charged in the case.  Maybe we haven't found Kyron yet but we have a lot of circumstantial evidence tying Terri to Kyron's disappearance."
http://ijpr.org/post/kyron-horman-search-his-mother-continues


Kaine Horman - June 2, 2015
Kaine Horman thinks about his missing son every day. "We need to find him," said Kaine. "We need to bring him home."
http://legacy.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/


Kaine Horman - June 4, 2015
"He’s potentially either in the area with someone or even outside our area with someone else. ....  I’d almost call it a belief.  Hope to me is good, but it’s also kind of uncertain.”
http://koin.com/2015/06/04/kaine-horman-on-kyron-terri-life-after-5-years/


Desiree Young - June 4, 2016
"What is it like now that Kyron has been missing for 6 years?  Each year I reflect on where we are and how I can change it, I try to think of at least one more thing I can do. I can tell you of all of the things that we have done to bring Kyron home, but you have all been here with us to see it. And still, we don’t have Kyron home. Each day I still expect to get that phone call that I am waiting for, you know the one, “Desiree, this is the police, we have found Kyron!” I want that phone call more than anything, I want to see the police standing on my doorstep waiting to tell me they’ve found him. I have dreamt of the day I get to hold onto Kyron again, and hug him until he says I can’t breathe Momma. I have gone over that moment and planned it out in every detail, in my head. I have dreamt of it so many times that it feels real, until I realize it’s a dream and I have just woken up."  UPDATE 122
https://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


Desiree Young - May 25, 2017
"My son is the reason I get up everyday and fight to bring him home.  I want to see him smile again.  I want to hear his laugh and most of all I want to feel his hug. I will never give up. Some days the hope that our child will come home is all that keeps us going''
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2017/05/fbi_places_billboards_across_s.html

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/26/fbi-runs-digital-billboards-in-case-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman.html


Desiree Young - August 19, 2017
"My sweet Ky, this pic was your birthday and we worked hard to make all of your cake ice cream cones for the party. I remember everything about this day, down to the way the dinosaur's fabric feels on your pajamas. Your birthday is soon and I miss making new memories with you. I'm mad that was taken from me and from you. Your voice might be changing by now, you'd be able to drive a car with supervision of course, but all of the things that change for you at 15 and we don't get to see it or be with you. I love you and I'm praying super hard for you lately. Justice is coming for you and answers will be revealed."
https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/a.462300267193233.1073741826.161645780592018/1426353860787864/?type=3&theater\





      


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« Reply #52 on: May 03, 2018, 11:27:36 AM »

Kyron's parents' ongoing belief that Kyron lives (See above post.) goes beyond their knowledge that Terri had the ability to hurt Kyron.  Could it be that in their briefings with investigators Desiree and Kaine have been privy to happenings that support the probability that they will once again embrace their precious son?

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013
"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.  In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators.  "
http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa



THEY KNOW IN THEIR HEART OF HEARTS??

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

18. ... April 30, 2018 at 7:42 pm

EXCERPT


It is my firm belief that Desiree and Kaine stay rooted in their belief Terri was involved in some capacity (there are other reasons but I think this is priority) because they know in their heart of hearts she would never physically harm a child, let alone the son she raised as her own for over 7 years.  This concept allows them (as stated) to avoid the thought/discussion that Kyron is deceased at the hands of suspect zero. B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/


THE DISCONNECT

2010


Kyron Horman's Mother Speaks Out
11/15/2010

VIDEO EXCERPT


On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

Desiree: It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron.

I now believe without a shadow of a doubt that not only is she capable of hurting Kyron, that it's clear that she could have hurt him in the worst possible way.

http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247

Transcript - H/T - BeanE - Websleuths


Missing Kyron's Dad Points Finger at Stepmom
11/19/2010

VIDEO EXCERPT


Reporter: Have you seen the emails that are being talked about where Terri allegedly talks about hurting Kyron?

Kaine: Yeah, well, I, I've seen them. Yes.

Reporter: What is in those emails?

Kaine: I'm not gonna talk about it. It's information that's supposed to be confidential to the investigation, and...

Reporter: Did they only solidify your belief that Terri's responsible?

Kaine: Everything that we see moving forward just adds to the pile.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-kyrons-dad-points-finger-stepmom-12189940?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=11128091&page=1

Transcript - H/T - BeanE - Websleuths


2011

Entire Desiree Young press conference in Roseburg
Feb 22, 2011

VIDEO EXCERPT (4:00)


Question:  You have said that Terri is responsible.  Could you explain what you base that on.

Desiree Young: Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person. She put everything in writing.  She had a severe severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life.
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop
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« Reply #53 on: May 03, 2018, 01:36:56 PM »

Could it be that briefings with investigators have convinced Kyron's parents that Terri was the last known person to be seen with their son.  In other words ... there is no "suspect zero".

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013
"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.  In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators.  "
http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa



SUSPECT ZERO??

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

18. ... April 30, 2018 at 7:42 pm

EXCERPT


It is my firm belief that Desiree and Kaine stay rooted in their belief Terri was involved in some capacity (there are other reasons but I think this is priority) because they know in their heart of hearts she would never physically harm a child, let alone the son she raised as her own for over 7 years.  This concept allows them (as stated) to avoid the thought/discussion that Kyron is deceased at the hands of suspect zero. B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/


THE DISCONNECT

2010


Matt Shelby - June 7, 2010

Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.  He said it was common for parents to pick up kids this way, so no suspicions were raised.
http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=28


Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010
The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. .... However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html


Jason Gates - June 21, 2010
There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.
http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624


Matt Shelby - June 21, 2010
"Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html


2011

Desiree Young - March 5, 2011

"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I KNOW AND ALL THAT THE POLICE KNOW when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."
https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD/photos/a.149091225123584.27207.145821285450578/


2015

Desiree - May 21, 2015

"Yes this is the moment just before he walked out of the school,down the sidewalk with Terri and Kiara right next to him and then he disappeared. Well Terri and Kiara made it back to the house, why didn't Kyron? Where's Kyron?  I have studied this photo so many times to try to reach in and take him out of the moment that he will never return from....the moment his life was changed forever, I wish I could go into that photo to protect him from her. Terri, where's Kyron?"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=821922851230971




Desiree Young - June 4, 2015
"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it.  WE KNOW AT LEAST DEDE SPICHER.  YEAH ... SHE IS ONE OF THEM." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


Kyron's Parents - June 4, 2015

"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him.  It was someone we knew in our trusted circle," said Young.

Kyron's parents believe someone else may have also been involved.

"We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact," Young said.

"We need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who that person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.
https://kobi5.com/news/local-news/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong-7444/


Desiree Young - November 25, 2015
"It was exactly between 8:45 and 8:55.  He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school." (Video Excerpt 1:25)
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/


2017

Desiree Young - June 4, 2017

"It was not a stranger abduction.  This was someone who was known to Kyron who was with him that day at the school." (Video Excerpt 2:24)
https://www.facebook.com/missingkyronhorman/

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« Reply #54 on: May 06, 2018, 04:58:12 PM »

DEDE SPICHER


FOOD FOR THOUGHT

Terri Horman and Dede Spicher have not been in contact since July, 2010.  Why?

Something tells me that in exchange for an immunity deal that protects her from wrongdoing encompassing Kyron's disappearance ... Dede threw Terri under the bus.

Friend of missing boy's stepmom appears before grand jury
July 26, 2010

EXCERPT


Stavley disputed those comments Monday, saying Spicher has been "extremely cooperative" with police as they executed search warrants on her home and car. He said she also met with the lead investigator in the case last week for more than three hours.

He added that Spicher is not speaking to Terri Horman.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/26/oregon.missing.boy/


'He is my son,' Terri Horman tells Dr. Phil of Kyron, who's been missing since 2010
September 22, 2016

EXCERPT


McGraw then asked Terri why she hadn't spoken with DeDe Spicher -- a close friend of hers who had consoled Terri in the days following Kyron's disappearance -- since 2010.

"We were advised by our attorneys not to see each other," Terri said. "You have two people together who look like there's something hinky going on. The last thing you're going to do is put those people together."

McGraw shook his head.

"If there are two friends who do nothing wrong and there's one who did nothing wrong and the other is supporting her, that's just bizarre," McGraw said.

"You can't make this stuff up," Terri then said, to which McGraw responded: "Oh, yes you can."
http://www.oregonlive.com/trending/2016/09/he_is_my_son_terri_horman_tells_dr_phil_of_kyron.html

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Desiree Young - June 4, 2015
"Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it.  WE KNOW AT LEAST DEDE SPICHER.  YEAH ... SHE IS ONE OF THEM." (Video Excerpt - 2:15)
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance



DEDE SPICHER - A WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION?

Could it be that in 2013 ... Dede Spicher was afforded immunity from prosecution in exchange for her testimony regarding the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Kyron Horman on the morning of June 4, 2010.  Could it be when Terri Horman is indicted ... Dede will be a prosecution witness?


1.  The 2010 Grand Jury

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
July 26, 2010


EXCERPT

Spicher's attorney told NBC Dateline that he would be "surprised" if Terri was not arrested in the case.

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday.  He said she could be called back to testify in the future.
Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavely said.  "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down.
http://www.kgw.com/home/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html


Friend of missing boy's stepmom appears before grand jury
July 26, 2010

EXCERPT


Stavley disputed those comments Monday, saying Spicher has been "extremely cooperative" with police as they executed search warrants on her home and car. He said she also met with the lead investigator in the case last week for more than three hours.

He added that Spicher is not speaking to Terri Horman.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/26/oregon.missing.boy/


2.  The 2012 Deposition

Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
November 09, 2012

EXCERPT


Rosenthal noted in the motion that the Fifth Amendment provides that "no person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself..."

"The privilege is personal; it cannot be used to protect another person...Otherwise, the privilege could be used as a shield to protect a witness' friends, and to deny a civil litigant probative evidence."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html


The Deposition

Excerpts:


Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

H/T - Criminal Mindz

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


3.  The 2013 Grand Jury

Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit, criminal investigation continues
July 30, 2013

EXCERPT


A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney Elden Rosenthal.

Dede Spicher testified before the Grand Jury for the criminal case within the past two weeks, according to Rosenthal.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined t speak with investigators or testify.
http://www.kgw.com/news/Kyron-Horman-civil-suit--217621031.html


Lawsuit dropped, criminal investigation continues in Kyron Horman case
Jul 30, 2013

EXCERPT


As part of Young's lawsuit, one of Terri Horman's friends, DeDe Spicher, was called in for a deposition in 2012, and she refused to answer 142 questions regarding the case. She cited her Fifth Amendment right. ....

Young said she was hopeful Spicher provided good information to the grand jury, but did not speculate on what information that could be. Spicher appeared before the grand jury at least one other time, in July 2010.

"We don't know. But I think everything's a possibility," she said. "The fact that she hadn't talked up to now. We just don't know." ....
http://www.kptv.com/story/22967375/mom-of-kyron-horman-gives-up-on-civil-case


Mother of Kyron Horman dropping civil suit
Jul 30, 2013

EXCERPT


Meanwhile, there was a huge breakthrough in the criminal investigation. Horman's good friend, Dede Spicher -- who previously refused to answer questions in court -- testified before an investigative Grand Jury in the past week or two. .
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mother-of-Kyron-Horman-dropping-civil-suit-217632621.html


Desiree Young drops suit against Terri Horman
July 30, 2013

EXCERPT


Rosenthal did reveal that Terri Horman's friend, DeDe Spicher, testified this month before a grand jury.  In October of 2012, Spicher invoked her Fifth Amendment rights during a sworn deposition, refusing to answer any questions regarding Horman. However, according to Rosenthal, she changed her mind.

“We recently learned that Dede Spicher did appear in front of the Grand Jury a week or two ago; we don't know what she said," Rosenthal stated.
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/


AN IMMUNITY DEAL?  OFFICIALLY CLEARED?

An "immunity deal" does not imply that Dede is "officially clear".  It implies the contrary.

DeDe Spicher breaks silence in interview with crime blog
Sep 04, 2013

EXCERPT


The blog claimed Spicher said she has been unofficially cleared and given immunity in Kyron's disappearance. ....

The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office issued a "no comment" when FOX 12 inquired about the blog's report that Spicher had been "unofficially" cleared.

The district attorney's office also issued a "no comment."

http://www.kptv.com/story/23343156/dede-spicher-breaks-silence-with-interview-on-crime-blog

http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/
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THESE DAYS?

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

48.  April 23, 2018 at 12:58 pm

EXCERPT


I think Terri is plenty savvy these days about who can and cant access things on social media. I also think she operates under the auspice that all of her communication devices are likely being monitored by LE- legally or illegally.  B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-101/#comments


FLASHBACK

DeDe Spicher: I Was 'Very Worried' for Terri Horman's Life
August 18, 2010

EXCERPT


The pair also assumed they were under surveillance. "Any conversations that we wanted to have, we'd go out into the yard," Spicher says. "When we were in the house, we'd talk about the kids, we'd talk about her marriage, talked about her family."
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20413793,00.html


Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Grand Jury Meets, Indictment Imminent
Posted by Christina Stoy | Monday 26 July 2010 3:16 pm

44. August 7, 2010 at 5:14 am


EXCERPT

Is everyone aware that the LE agencies involved in this case, have the capability to listen to both sides of the conversation on those bat phones within 100 yards of TH, which is probably how they learned about them in the first place? The deputy inside the home, and undoubtedly trailing TH in the following weeks was also wired. Point is, this little brain trust of hers, who now find themselves in the middle of a criminal investigation, are not masterminds. ....  B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-27/#comments

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=12958.msg1582395;topicseen#msg1582395


BOTTOM LINE

Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Grand Jury Meets, Indictment Imminent
Posted by Christina Stoy | Monday 26 July 2010 3:16 pm

44. August 7, 2010 at 5:14 am

EXCERPT


What kind of conversations do you need to have outside of LE monitoring when their is a 7 year old missing would be my question.  B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/07/26/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-grand-jury-meets-indictment-imminent/comment-page-27/#comments
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A MOTHER'S ONGOING HEARTBREAK


 


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SKYLINE'S LIABILITY?

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff |Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

45.  .... May 12, 2018 at 10:30 am

EXCERPT


Imo, and it calls for some speculation on my part, the reason that DY did not target Skyline School as a defendant in her short-lived civil case against Terri is because doing so would technically have given Terri “standing” for a cross complaint against the school she would not have had otherwise. I do not have any doubt in my mind that suit would have been successful because there was and is overwhelming direct witness evidence that Kyron disappeared while in the school’s care, and he did not leave with Terri Horman. .... B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/


THE DISCONNECT

Matt Shelby - June 7, 2010

Portland Public Schools spokesman Matt Shelby said two teachers saw Kyron with his stepmother and thought the two left school together.  He said it was common for parents to pick up kids this way, so no suspicions were raised.
http://origin.ksdk.com/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=203651&catid=28

Sheriff Office Release - June 18, 2010
The stepmother said she last saw Kyron at about 8:45 a.m. walking down the hallway toward his classroom, according to a sheriff's office news release. .... However, the sheriff's office news release says school staff did not see Kyron after 8:45 a.m. and that he did not make it to his classroom.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/search_for_missing_portland_bo.html

Jason Gates - June 21, 2010
There was one new piece of information: “Terri is the last-known person to have seen him before he disappeared” Multnomah County Sheriff’s Capt. Jason Gates said, contrary to previous reports of someone else who might have seen the boy afterward.
http://portlandtribune.com/component/content/article?id=31624

Matt Shelby - June 21, 2010
"Two teachers were the last school staff to see Kyron at Skyline. His own teacher and another teacher saw him inside the school with his stepmother, and there didn't appear to be anything out of the ordinary.”
http://www.katu.com/news/local/98981009.html

Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015
"Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's."
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&r

Kyron's Parents - June 4, 2015

"It wasn't a stranger that came into Kyron's school and took him.  It was someone we knew in our trusted circle," said Young.

Kyron's parents believe someone else may have also been involved.

"We firmly believe that Terri has worked with people on this, had help after the fact," Young said.

"We need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who that person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.
https://kobi5.com/news/local-news/5-years-since-kyron-horman-disappearance-search-still-going-strong-7444/

Desiree Davidson Young - November, 2015
"It was exactly between 8:45 and 8:55.  He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school."
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/


THINK ABOUT IT

MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013
"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation.  In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."
http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa
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Considering that for almost eight years there has been no lawsuit filed against Skyline by either of Kyron's parents ... logic dictates that Desiree and Kaine have been convinced in briefings with investigators that the school was not negligent for the disappearance their son.  Think about it.  The $10,000,000 lawsuit Desiree filed was against Terri ... not the school district.

JUNE 4, 2010 - THE SCIENCE FAIR - THE TALENT SHOW

Kyron Horman's family tells of day boy disappeared, presses stepmother to cooperate
July 5, 2010

EXCERPT


The last time Kaine Horman saw his little boy was 7:45 a.m. on June 4. Kyron had just come back to the house after feeding the family cat, Bootsie, and his Dad was heading into work.

"I walked over to him, told him I was extremely proud of him for the effort he put into his red-eyed tree frog project, and for him to have a great and fun day at the science fair," his dad recalled this evening.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_timeline_of_event.html


Kaine Horman answers KATU's questions
July 17th 2010

EXCERPT


KATU: Kaine, why did you and Terri switch cars the day Kyron disappeared? Did you typically drive the white truck, and Terri the red mustang? Did she request to have the truck that day?

Kaine: I typically drive the truck and Terri drives the car. She wanted to use the truck to bring Kyron's science fair project home, easier done with the truck than the car, although she did not stay for the duration of the science fair - per her statements that the media has reported.
http://katu.com/news/local/kaine-horman-answers-katus-questions


Kyron Horman: Timeline of events since boy's disappearance
May 28, 2015

EXCERPT

2010

Friday, June 4


8 a.m. Skyline Elementary, 11536 N.W. Skyline Blvd., opens early so students and parents can tour the science fair. A billboard outside reads: "June 4, I.B. Inquiry Expo, 8-10, Talent show, 1-2:45." Kyron was to take part in both the expo/science fair and the talent show.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/05/kyron_horman_timeline_of_event.html

      


THE DISCONNECT

Desiree Davidson Young - May 29, 2015

"Ms Porter had an email that excused Kyron, email was from Terri herself. That's why the school didn't question it further. It's Terri's fault that Ky is missing today not Skyline's."
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=982294721802125&id=125336750831264&comment_id=982299921801605&r

Desiree Davidson Young - November, 2015
"It was exactly between 8:45 and 8:55.  He was in his classroom.  He got the photo taken by Terri and he according to eyewitness accounts ... multiple adults ... that can vouch for the fact that Terri walked out the side entrance of the school with Kyron in tow and we know this because Kyron's friend even saw him with her right outside the school."
http://crimewatchdaily.com/2015/11/25/the-search-for-missing-oregon-boy-kyron-horman/
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