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« Reply #80 on: June 05, 2018, 10:08:39 AM »

CHIEF DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY DON REES

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff |  Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

47.  June 4, 2018 at 4:59 pm

EXCERPT


Completely incredulous when you also consider that the only public reference to Kyron’s case I have ever heard from Rees was in his online introduction of Balizan- like its a highlight. .... B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-105/#comments

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/#comments


THE DISCONNECT

2013

Kyron Horman's stepmom trying to force investigator, estranged husband to testify
Jul 25, 2013

EXCERPT


But Multnomah County prosecutors, the county's attorneys, Kaine Horman's lawyer, and O'Donnell have moved to quash the subpoenas, arguing that any testimony by investigators or disclosure of evidence would jeopardize an ongoing criminal inquiry.
A grand jury convened in the case has been extended several times, most recently for another six months, Multnomah County's Chief Deputy District Attorney Don Rees wrote in court records last week.

The DA's office "continues to actively pursue this investigation and has in no way foreclosed the possibility of initiating criminal prosecutions arising from the disappearance of Kyron Horman," Rees said.

"While the case has yet to be resolved, the investigation is currently active and the grand jury continues to receive evidence and consider the testimony of witnesses presented by the Multnomah County District Attorney's Office," Rees wrote.

"While the case has yet to be resolved, the investigation is currently active and the grand jury continues to receive evidence and consider the testimony of witnesses presented by the Multnomah County District Attorney's Office," Rees wrote.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/07/kyron_hormans_stepmom_trying_t.html


Attorneys for Kaine Horman and Terri Horman continue to argue over who can ask what in depositions
October 8, 2013


EXCERPT

Chief Deputy District Attorney Don Rees has filed a separate motion to limit Terri Horman's deposition of Kaine Horman.

Because Kaine Horman is the victim of "an apparent crime against his own child,'' he has a legal right to information about his missing son, Rees argued.

"The fact that law enforcement has necessarily conveyed this information to Kaine Horman does not waive the longstanding and well-recognized privileged and confidential nature of information relating to a pending criminal investigation,'' Rees wrote.

Kaine Horman should be prohibited from answering any questions about law enforcement methods used to investigate his son's disappearance, physical evidence gathered, witness statements or questions asked by law enforcement, or whether he has testified before a grand jury, Rees wrote.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/10/attorneys_for_kaine_horman_and.html


Horman child custody case: Landscaper can testify, but won't be cross-examined about his work with law enforcement
December 13, 2013

EXCERPT


The judge asked Multnomah County Chief Deputy District Attorney Don Rees what the statute of limitations is for attempted murder-for-hire. Rees said it's at least six years.  State law says there's no statute of limitation for solicitation to commit murder.

"Nothing said this morning changes where we were a month ago, two months ago. Nothing has changed. The state, to the extent possible, has sought to keep in its control the details of the criminal investigation surrounding the disappearance of this little boy, Kyron Horman,'' Rees said. That would include further information from Sanchez, he said.
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/12/post_389.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/hormancourtdocs12162013.pdf


2015

Family, friends hold vigil for Kyron Horman 5 years after disappearance
June 04, 2015

EXCERPT


Desiree's still convinced Terri is the one who took Kyron.

"Absolutely, without a doubt. With all my heart I know she did it. I think she was working with one, or possibly two people. But absolutely she did it," said Desiree.

Local parents who've been following the case showed up to pay their respects, along with officials from the sheriff and DA's office.

"The Multnomah County District Attorney's Office was on scene at Skyline 5 years ago and we continue to be involved in the case so tonight we wanted to come out and show our support for everyone," said Don Rees from the Multnomah Co. District Attorney's Office.
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance



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« Reply #81 on: June 05, 2018, 11:58:58 AM »

THINK ABOUT IT

When Desiree's statements to the media are considered ... statements discredited by some ... think about the above article pertaining to the fifth anniversary of Kyron's disappearance. Would Kyron's mother have targeted Terri with "officials from the sheriff and DA's office" present at the gathering if her words did not have an official foundation?


I KNOW SHE DID IT

Desiree:
 "Absolutely, without a doubt. With all my heart I know she did it. ..."
http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance

The above quote reflects MANY statements to the media throughout the past eight years  by Kyron's mother that more than speculate.  If innocent ... why has Terri's attorney at some point in time not filed a huge defamation lawsuit against Desiree?
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Kaine Horman - June 2, 2018
"We believe he's still out there.  We've been talking pretty heavily with investigators. They're still heavily involved... we still believe he's out there .... "

http://www.koin.com/news/missing-persons/monday-marks-8-years-since-kyron-horman-disappeared/1215202541




Desiree Young - June 4, 2018
Stay tuned something big is coming I promise you. Terri isn’t going to get away with staying silent about where Kyron is, and not have to answer for it.

https://www.facebook.com/desiree.davidsonyoung/posts/1819645388057117



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« Reply #83 on: June 05, 2018, 01:58:23 PM »

DEDE SPICHER

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

3.  Rose says:
May 28, 2018 at 7:09 pm

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My opinion is if what you say is true Blink (depos that he left w/a man out Mathews’ door) Desiree is a lunatic or egosyntonic liar.

Well, you noticed she has never said another word about Dede.  On that I am 1000% certain she has been told by LE, DA and attorneys that Spcicher was eliminated of any knowledge or involvement via her grand jury testimony and required polygraph. .... B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-105/#comments


THE DISCONNECT

2015

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


Video 2:30:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


FOOD FOR THOUGHT

If Dede received immunity from prosecution for testifying truthfully in the 2013 Grand Jury ... could it be that at this point in time it is necessary for Desiree to shout out to only Terri to come clean regarding her participation in the happenings encompassing the morning of June 4, 2010 ... the morning Kyron went missing.

Think about it.  One must be guilty of wrongdoing in the first place to be afforded immunity from prosecution in exchange for the truth and one must be guilty of wrongdoing if he/she were to plead the fifth in a 2012 deposition 142 times.

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« Reply #85 on: June 05, 2018, 04:51:01 PM »

DEDE SPICHER - WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION?

Could it be that in 2013 ... the prosecutor finally caved to the terms of Dede Spicher's attorney?

Could it be that immunity from prosecution for his client was afforded in exchange for Dede's full co-operation regarding her involvement as well as knowledge of the happenings encompassing the disappearance of Kyron Horman?

Could it be that after three years Dede finally submitted to a polygraph and ... truthfully testified regarding the happenings of June 20, 2010 and she passed?

Could it be that it Dede also testified before the 2013 Grand Jury without citing the Fifth Amendment?

Could it be that Dede will be the prosecutor's star witness when Terri is eventually indicted for her involvement in the secreting of Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010?


1.  The 2010 Grand Jury

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
July 26, 2010


Spicher's attorney told NBC Dateline that he would be "surprised" if Terri was not arrested in the case.

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, Spicer's attorney did confirm that his client was subpoenaed to testify but did not give any testimony under oath Monday. He said she could be called back to testify in the future. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I would be, frankly, surprised if Terri Horman did not eventually face charges in this case," Stavley said. "I'd be surprised if the indictment didn't come down.
http://www.kgw.com/home/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html


Friend of missing boy's stepmom appears before grand jury
July 26, 2010


Stavley disputed those comments Monday, saying Spicher has been "extremely cooperative" with police as they executed search warrants on her home and car.  He said she also met with the lead investigator in the case last week for more than three hours.

He added that Spicher is not speaking to Terri Horman. ....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/26/oregon.missing.boy/


2.  The 2012 Deposition

Attorney: Terri Horman's friend refused to answer 142 questions in Kyron case
Oct 23, 2012


EXCERPT

Young's lawyer said Spicher was called in for a deposition earlier this month as part of the lawsuit against Terri Horman. Elden Rosenthal said Spicher refused to answer 142 of his questions, citing her Fifth Amendment rights not to incriminate herself.
http://www.kptv.com/story/19894510/terri-hormans-friend-refused-to-answer-142-questions-in-kyron-case


Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
November 09, 2012

EXCERPT


Rosenthal noted in the motion that the Fifth Amendment provides that "no person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself..."

"The privilege is personal; it cannot be used to protect another person...Otherwise, the privilege could be used as a shield to protect a witness' friends, and to deny a civil litigant probative evidence."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html


The Deposition

Excerpts:


Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

H/T - Criminal Mindz
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


3.  The 2013 Grand Jury

Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit, criminal investigation continues
July 30, 2013


A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney Elden Rosenthal.

DeDe Spicher testified before the grand jury for the criminal case within the past two weeks, according to Rosenthal.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  She had previously declined to speak with investigators or testify. ....
http://www.kgw.com/news/Kyron-Horman-civil-suit--217621031.html


Lawsuit dropped, criminal investigation continues in Kyron Horman case
Jul 30, 2013


As part of Young's lawsuit, one of Terri Horman's friends, DeDe Spicher, was called in for a deposition in 2012, and she refused to answer 142 questions regarding the case. She cited her Fifth Amendment right. ....

Young said she was hopeful Spicher provided good information to the grand jury, but did not speculate on what information that could be. Spicher appeared before the grand jury at least one other time, in July 2010.

"We don't know. But I think everything's a possibility," she said. "The fact that she hadn't talked up to now. We just don't know." ....
http://www.kptv.com/story/22967375/mom-of-kyron-horman-gives-up-on-civil-case


Mother of Kyron Horman dropping civil suit
Jul 30, 2013


Meanwhile, there was a huge breakthrough in the criminal investigation. Horman's good friend, Dede Spicher -- who previously refused to answer questions in court -- testified before an investigative Grand Jury in the past week or two. ....
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mother-of-Kyron-Horman-dropping-civil-suit-217632621.html


Desiree Young drops suit against Terri Horman
July 30, 2013


Rosenthal did reveal that Terri Horman's friend, DeDe Spicher, testified this month before a grand jury.  In October of 2012, Spicher invoked her Fifth Amendment rights during a sworn deposition, refusing to answer any questions regarding Horman. However, according to Rosenthal, she changed her mind.

“We recently learned that Dede Spicher did appear in front of the Grand Jury a week or two ago; we don't know what she said," Rosenthal stated. ....
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/


Kaine - July 30, 2013

“We still have extreme confidence that they’re going to drive resolution to the case. Law enforcement is again asking us to help protect the information as much as we can, so it doesn’t interfere with the integrity of what they’re doing. And we’re doing our best in the civil arena to do that."
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


Desiree - July 30, 2013

“I don’t want anything to compromise the ongoing investigation for Kyron. For these reasons, I have instructed my attorneys to dismiss the civil case.”
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/31700-autosave/


MCSO Statement - July 30, 2013

"The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office remains in close contact with the parents of Kyron regarding the course of the investigation."

"In addition, Sheriff Staton has met regularly with Kaine Horman concerning the investigation and to ensure they are fully aware of the current course of action being taken by investigators."
http://www.koin.com/news/31700-autosa


FOOD FOR THOUGHT

2015

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015


Video 2:30:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance


BUMPED

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« Reply #86 on: June 09, 2018, 11:39:04 AM »

Peter Bunch - Terri's Attorney - October 7, 2010
"There is no doubt that she's in the crosshairs of the state's investigation."

http://www.kptv.com/story/14803256/horman-divorce-case-delayed-until-2011-10-07-2010?clienttype=printable



Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010
“Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron’s disappearance and in the murder for hire plot. Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this.”

http://www.kptv.com/story/14805736/battle-in-horman-custody-case-continues-10-25-2010



Circuit Court Judge Kantor - August 22, 2012
"The defendant is a prime suspect in the investigation."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/kyron-hormans-stepmother-called-prime-suspect-judge/story?id=17056358



THE HORMAN PROPERTY SEARCH

It's the story of my life but what am I not getting?  When it is considered that the person who according to her own attorney is in the "crosshairs" of the Kyron Horman investigation lived at the Northwest Sheltered Nook Road residence ... it makes sense that an official search warrant implies that a search of the property ... an official search with and without cadaver dogs ... would not require Kaine's permission.


2013 - KYRON FATHER

Still Missing - Where is 7-Year-Old Kyron?
September 13, 2013

EXCERPT

Video Clip - 2:05


Dr. Phil:  Recently there was a request to dig up ... excavation your property and you said "no.  Why would you not?"

Kaine Horman : I have an open invitation with Law Enforcement and certified Search and Rescue Teams to search my property ... any day ... any time.  When I was called ... I SAID "NO" TO THE PRIVATE SEARCH but I immediately said and ... I will continue to say ... any-time the Sheriff's Office and the Search and Rescue teams want to come with their dogs it's all-right.  My property has been search more than the school has probably.  My invitation is open ... always open.
https://www.drphil.com/shows/2069/


2015 - KYRON'S AUNT

Kelly Davidson Ramirez - December 3, 2015


"I just want to clarify there was a search done Kaine’s property the first couple of days after Kyron went missing. These were search and rescue dogs with a scent article looking for a LIVE child. Cadaver dogs have never set foot on his property. Not once! While Desiree, Me and my family pray everyday this is not our outcome we need answers. Kyron deserves for us to have these answers. He deserves to be found. Why would a father deny any mother the piece of mind knowing he is not there? Why can’t he do that for her for Kyron? Not only has he denied us the opportunity to search his property but he is denying law enforcement the access to do so as well. Hmmmm"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=907642962658959

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« Reply #87 on: June 09, 2018, 07:25:46 PM »

WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT


Kyron's Mother - March 5, 2011
"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."

https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD/photos/a.149091225123584.27207.145821285450578/
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« Reply #88 on: June 09, 2018, 07:32:42 PM »

THE TIME IS RIGHT - SOMETHING BIG IS COMING


Kaine Horman - June 2, 2018
"We believe he's still out there.  We've been talking pretty heavily with investigators. They're still heavily involved... we still believe he's out there .... "

http://www.koin.com/news/missing-persons/monday-marks-8-years-since-kyron-horman-disappeared/1215202541



Desiree Young - June 4, 2018
Stay tuned something big is coming I promise you. Terri isn’t going to get away with staying silent about where Kyron is, and not have to answer for it.

https://www.facebook.com/desiree.davidsonyoung/posts/1819645388057117


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Desiree Young - June 4, 2018
Stay tuned something big is coming I promise you. Terri isn’t going to get away with staying silent about where Kyron is, and not have to answer for it.

https://www.facebook.com/desiree.davidsonyoung/posts/1819645388057117



SOMEBODY'S GOING TO GET HURT

When all the alleged MFH plots and restraining orders as well as a judge's order forbidding Terri from possessing a firearm are considered and now Desiree's words implying that "something big is about to happened" ... could it be that any prosecution witness who may be called upon to testify under oath in an upcoming trial should be watching his/her back? 

ON THE SAME PAGE

Kaine Horman - October 25, 2010


"I believe that Respondent is severely emotionally disturbed and unfit to parent Kiara. Her actions are horrifying and unexplainable.  Kiara's physical and emotional safety are now at extreme risk.''
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


Kaine Horman - July 10, 2010

"I have no idea what she's capable of, because she's obviously done some horrible things or tried to do some horrible things that took us all by surprise," Kaine Horman said.
http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-976-kyrons_parents_describe_web_of_deception_from_step.html


BOC - Blink - October 29, 2010

I would not let this woman near my child without a licensed professional recommending it was in KIARA’s best interests to see her Mother, of course in a controlled setting.
Analysis aside, she is batshit to behave that way.  I was reading those, throwing up in my mouth a little, and thinking, how freaking sad is this woman talking about how much she can bench. My ass she can bench that much right now anyway.  If someone comes away from those exchanges, given the situation, and thinks this woman does not need major psych help, you also believe everything in STAR magazine. ... B"
http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/29/kyron-horman-case-update-blinkoncrime-com-legal-analyst-lea-conner-weighs-in/comment-page-1/#comments


Desiree Young - July 11, 2014

"DA's Office will prosecute for all the Murder for Hire plots (Oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first. The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."
https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516


BOC - Sandi Lessman/thatkewlgirl - Terri's Former Friend - December 9,  2016

"There is something not quite right in her interpersonal relationship department psyche … it’s like riding a roller coaster… whatever it is, it’s not healthy. My family had major turmoil because of it. It’s certainly been a life lesson for my family, only now mending over time. .... and apparently karma is catching up with her now."
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-25/#commentst


Joseph Cristobal - December 9, 2016

“I’m fearing for my life.  I don’t even know what she is capable of doing."  “She was trying to put a knife – a kitchen knife to my face and then she was telling me that if I talked to law enforcement that something is going to happen to me or my family.”
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-stepmother-accused-of-domestic-violence/366720210

http://koin.com/2017/02/25/terri-horman-a-no-show-in-domestic-violence-case/


Desiree Young - December 6, 2016

"Come on everyone ... ask Kyron's law enforcement team for an arrest.  The DA's office needs to charge her for all the murder for hire plots, for Kyron, and for the stolen gun. Why does she get away with this?  Someone else is going to get hurt before we put her in prison."
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« Reply #90 on: June 13, 2018, 09:44:06 PM »

CUSTODY OF KIARA

It has been eight years since Kaine served the June 2010 restraining order which has denied Terri any contact with Kiara and ... in that same time period Terri's attorneys have failed to FOLLOW THROUGH with any legal challenge to the status quo.  If Terri is innocent of all wrongdoing encompassing the disappearance of Kyron ... why is the "status quo" still in effect?

The 2010 and 2013 custody motions were withdrawn when Terri was faced with depositions. Her attorney claimed the Fifth Amendment ... his client's right not to incriminate herself.

The 2014 Custody Agreement?  Terri has yet complied with reunification requirements.  Why?  Consequently ... she has yet to have any contact with her daughter.

Also ... think about it ... there has never been any legal motion filed by Terri's attorney that challenges the well-being of Kiara under her father's care.

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2010

The Disconnect

Kyron Horman Missing: Kaine And Terri Horman Face Off In Family Court
Posted by Christina Stoy | Thursday 7 October 2010 11:24 pm


Following this afternoon’s legal melee, blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief asked prominent Washington State Family Law Attorney, Lea Conner, to weigh in:

EXCERPT

There’s a disconnect between Mr. Bunch’s argument that Ms. Horman cannot defend herself because she would incriminate herself in the disappearance of her stepson, and his statement that “If Mr. Horman is really interested in what‘s best for the child, then Mr. Horman wouldn’t object to any visitation by this child’s mother.”

The apparent logic is that Ms. Horman admits that if she speaks, she will incriminate herself in some as-yet-to-be-named crime related to Kyron’s disappearance, yet Mr. Horman is now supposed to trust her to care for his other child, because that’s so obviously in their daughter’s best interest.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/


Parenting Time Request Motion Dropped

Terri Moulton Horman drops motion seeking parenting time with Kiara
November 03, 2010

EXCERPT


Terri Moulton Horman's attorneys have withdrawn their motion seeking parenting time for their client with her daughter after her estranged husband's lawyer informed them that they would face extensive discovery, "multiple depositions" and subpoenas for their client's medical records. ....

Bunch has argued earlier that a parallel civil divorce case, while the criminal investigation proceeds into Kyron Horman's disappearance, would jeopardize Terri Horman's Fifth Amendment rights not to incriminate herself. ....
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/terri_moulton_horman_withdraws.


2013

Motion for Visitation Rights


Hearing examines details of Horman divorce case
Friday, September 13, 2013

EXCERPT


Also under review Friday was a motion by Terri to have visitation rights with her daughter. In June, a judge renewed a restraining order original filed by Kaine in June 2010 against his estranged wife that does not allow her contact with him or their now 4-year-old daughter Kiara. On July 8, the same day that Terri subpoenaed O’Donnell, Terri also filed a motion contesting the restraining order.

In its response, on July 13 Kaine’s attorney Peter Engel issued a motion for protective order. In it he wrote:

“Ms. Horman has been in seclusion for three years. She refuses to cooperate with law enforcement.  She intends to exercise her privilege against self-incrimination. She has not contested the FAPA Order since it was originally issued in June of 2010. She has chosen to forego a relationship with the parties’ daughter Kiara, now four years old. Yet, she now expects to conduct one-sided discovery in a single day of depositions, and have a hearing, all while the case is stayed.” ....
http://www.koin.com/2013/09/13/hearing-over-horman-divorce-proceedings/


Withdrawal of Visitation Request

Terri Horman withdraws visitation request for daughter
October 30, 2013

EXCERPT


An attorney for Terri Moulton Horman has filed a motion to withdraw her request for visitation of her young daughter.Judge Meisenheimer s office confirms the motion was filed on Tuesday. ....

In Monday's filing, Terri's attorney states the withdrawl of the motion for visitation is in no way an agreement to maintain the status quo regarding the estranged couple's daughter, and that Terri does not, and will not, give up her right to seek legal custody of their daughter. ....

According to Terri's attorney, the motion to withdraw was being filed to avoid litigation that is destructive to the parties and their daughter, despite very deep and great reluctance, and with grave concern about their daughter's short-term development and long-term well-being. ....

Under a restraining order filed by Kaine Horman, Terri Moulton-Horman has been denied visitation with their daughter. The estranged couple has filed a series of inflammatory motions in the ensuing battle over whether to permit Terri to have some kind of visitation. ....
http://legacy.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11781062/


2014

Terri Evokes the Fifth Amendment


BRETT E. ENGEL - LEGAL BRIEFING - FEBRUARY 10, 2014


Court Documents for 2-14-14

Page 3


" ... There is a trial scheduled for June 11, 2014 on the issue of what parenting schedule is in the best interests of Kiara Horman, age 5.  Father will ask the court to deny parenting time between Kiara and her Mother because Mother presents a credible threat to the health and safety of Kiara.  Father will offer testimony from Rodolfo Sanchez that (a) Mother solicited Sanchez's help to kill Father several months before the disappearance of Father's non joint child Kyron and (b) Mother sought to kill Father so she would not lose custody of joint child Kiara. ...."  

Page 8-9

" ...Mother would have this court believe that she has no options, and having Sanchez testify regarding the "meeting" is the only way she can show parenting time with Kiara is appropriate. Nothing could be further from the truth. There were apparently two people present at the "meeting". Mother and Mr. Sanchez. Sanchez is precluded from testifying about the meeting because the meeting is privileged. Mother is not prevented from testifying about the meeting and could so if she did not choose her right against self-incrimination over her right to explain what may have transpired at the meeting. Father's right should not be impacted because Mother is choosing her right to remain silent over her ability to present testimony that rebuts the Sanchez testimony.  A litigant's decision to invoke the Fifth Amendment again self-incrimination is not without adverse consequences for the litigant. ...."

Dated this 10th Day of February
Brett E. Engel
.....
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.578520868904505.1073741831.161645780592018&type=1


The Plan? Keeping My Daughter Safe and Bringing Kyron Home

Kaine Horman - February 20, 2014


"There is nothing more important to me than keeping my daughter safe and bringing him [Kyron] home.  We have work to do. A lot of it is happening outside the courtroom, so we have a lot of things that need to get done. We are continuing to work with investigators and we're continuing to drive closure to his [Kyron's] case."
http://www.kgw.com/news/Terri-Horman-fights-To-Question-Landscaper-242247221.html


A Settlement - A Reintegration Plan

Kaine Horman awarded custody of daughter; Terri Horman to have strictly-supervised visits eventually
June 4, 2014

EXCERPT


Kaine Horman has been awarded the custody of his daughter, Kiara, and ex-wife Terri Moulton Horman will have strictly supervised visits with the girl under a detailed "reintegration plan,'' according to a settlement signed Tuesday. ....

The fact that Kaine Horman has been awarded sole custody of their daughter does not prevent Terri Horman from inspecting and consulting with staff of the school Kiara attends, "to inspect and receive governmental agency and law enforcement records concerning the child,'' consult with her doctors or authorize health care for the child, or apply to be the girl's "conservator, guardian ad litem or both,'' the court records say. ....
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/06/kaine_horman_awarded_custody_o.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf


The Status Quo is Maintained

Kaine Horman - June 4, 2014


"I believe where we are today is still keeping my daughter safe, that status quo is still maintained, so I think we are doing what we need to be doing." ....
http://www.kgw.com/news/Kaine-Horman-awarded-full-custody-of-daughter--261867341.html


2015

No Contact of Any Kind


Father of Kyron Horman: 'We need to bring him home'
June 2, 2015

EXCERPT


Kaine Horman believes Kyron's stepmother Terri is responsible for the boy's disappearance. He thinks she may not have acted alone.  "Somebody else is involved with his disappearance and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.  ... Kaine Horman says Terri has had "no contact of any kind" with their six-year old daughter after a lengthy divorce and custody battle. ....
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/


2016

Plan on Hold - Logistics


Terri Horman, stepmom of missing Kyron Horman, moved to California, state records show
January 9, 2016

EXCERPT


In June 2014, a Multnomah County judge granted custody of the daughter to Kaine Horman, but approved a plan to help reunite the mother and child and allow visitation.

Terri Horman had started meeting with an assigned "parent coordinator'' as required, but the logistics and costs of having a psychological assessment done proved challenging, according to sources familiar with the case. The plan is now on hold ....
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/01/terri_horman_stepmom_of_missin.html

Custody Agreement
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf


Desiree and Kaine - The Same Page

KTVL CBS 10 News, Medford
January 21, 2016

 
DESIREE: (Video 3:55) I am grateful.  I am glad we have been able to keep Kiara away from her. I am glad that Kiara has a stable life ... stable as it can be considering the circumstances.
https://www.facebook.com/180780400322/videos/10156473491155323/?fref=nf


       


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Kaine Horman - June 2, 2018
"We believe he's still out there.  We've been talking pretty heavily with investigators. They're still heavily involved... we still believe he's out there .... "

http://www.koin.com/news/missing-persons/monday-marks-8-years-since-kyron-horman-disappeared/1215202541



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« Reply #92 on: June 23, 2018, 06:28:37 PM »

Scripture tells us that patience is a virtue.  It is a virtue that I fail to possess naturally but I am working on it.  Waiting on God's perfect timing is sometimes soooo difficult.


WHEN HE FEELS IT IS TIME


Desiree Young - March 5, 2011
"I have full confidence in the truth and in God, he will reveal all that I know and all that the police know when he feels it is time for everyone to see and when he can bring my Kyron home. That is when people will see the true Terri Horman and you will be disappointed and sickened to point of throwing up."

https://www.facebook.com/KHOnlineD/photos/a.149091225123584.27207.145821285450578/



I AM TIRED OF WAITING


Desiree Young - December 13, 2016
"I feel very optimistic this year.  I'm feeling those butterfly feelings in my stomach and I feel like we are getting somewhere and I am really hoping for answers.  I am tired of waiting."

https://crimewatchdaily.com/2016/12/13/missing-boys-stepmom-heading-to-court-on-separate-charges/



SOMETHING BIG IS COMING


Desiree Young - June 4, 2018
Stay tuned something big is coming I promise you. Terri isn’t going to get away with staying silent about where Kyron is, and not have to answer for it.

https://www.facebook.com/desiree.davidsonyoung/posts/1819645388057117


 
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« Reply #93 on: June 27, 2018, 09:42:33 AM »

2018 - RESTRAINING ORDER - MOULTON VS WILLIAMS


MARCH 12, 2018 - THE FILING




http://sonoma.courts.ca.gov/online-services/recent-cases?v=SFL12_03122018


MAY 24, 2018 - THE DISMISSAL




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2018 - SMALL CLAIMS - WILLIAMS VS MOULTON


MAY 23, 2018 - THE FILING






JUNE 21, 2018 - THE DISMISSAL


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Good morning Janet, Monkey's, and guest:

I gleaned a little insight, (not mine).


 
Kyron Horman's World Soldiers

 It looks like they may have reached an agreement. I looked up "dismissal with prejudice"

If it is a "voluntary dismissal with prejudice", it is the result of an out of court agreement or settlement between parties that they agree is final.

 If the case is dismissed "without prejudice" the lawsuit can be filed again by the plaintiff.

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Good morning Janet, Monkey's, and guest:

I gleaned a little insight, (not mine).


 
Kyron Horman's World Soldiers

 It looks like they may have reached an agreement. I looked up "dismissal with prejudice"

If it is a "voluntary dismissal with prejudice", it is the result of an out of court agreement or settlement between parties that they agree is final.

 If the case is dismissed "without prejudice" the lawsuit can be filed again by the plaintiff.

https://www.facebook.com/Kyron-Hormans-World-Soldiers-161645780592018/


Thanks seahorse.

This wannabe detective suspects that the small claims filing by Scott was all about collecting legal expenses incurred by him in the process of challenging Terri's restraining order lawsuit ... Terri's restraining order lawsuit that was dismissed.  Akin to the words of WS in your comment ... I also believe that there was a settlement or agreement.  I could be wrong. Story of my life.

Have a good day!   Janet


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SIX YEARS LATER - JUSTICE FOR DYLAN

Mark Redwine pleads not guilty to killing son Dylan in 2012
June 29, 2018
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Mark Redwine’s trial is set to begin on Nov. 26 and last for four weeks.  Redwine was indicted last July, arrested in Bellingham, Washington and remains jailed with his bail set at $750,000.
http://mynorthwest.com/1035908/mark-redwine-pleads-not-guilty-to-killing-son-dylan-in-2012/?

http://scaredmonkeys.net/index.php?topic=14459.new#new





EIGHT YEARS LATER - JUSTICE FOR KYRON

Desiree Young - June 4, 2018
Stay tuned something big is coming I promise you. Terri isn’t going to get away with staying silent about where Kyron is, and not have to answer for it.

https://www.facebook.com/desiree.davidsonyoung/posts/1819645388057117





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« Reply #98 on: June 30, 2018, 06:59:12 PM »

THINK ABOUT IT

Could Blink's speculation in her June 30, 2010 post be right? Was Terri told by her attorney to "zip it" ... not to cooperate with MCSO or the DA?

Could it be that on or about June 30, 2010 Stephen Houze drew a line in the sand? Could it be that Terri's attorney informed law enforcement that his client would no longer be co-operating with investigators?


NO MCSO OR DA INTERVIEW REQUEST?

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

8. .... October 13, 2016 at 8:33 pm

EXCERPT


Let me repeat this part- MCSO nor the DA has requested an interview with Terri Horman since June 30th 2010.  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/comment-page-11/#comments


Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

32. ...June 26, 2018 at 10:28 pm

EXCERPT


Lastly, to this day, Terri Horman has never been requested to participate in a MCSO interview since July 2010. Not once.
Who does that make sense to?   B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/#comments


THE DISCONNECT

ADVISED BY COUNSEL TO ZIP IT?

Kyron Horman Missing and Endangered: Kaine Horman Files For Restraining Order And Divorce From Terri Horman
Posted by Christina Stoy | Tuesday 29 June 2010 7:39 am

42.  .... June 30, 2010 at 6:35 pm

EXCERPT


And then, I will speculate that she has a level of culpability and has been advised by counsel to zip it, as they are looking to mount a mental defense. ....  B

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/06/29/kyron-horman-missing-and-endangered-kaine-horman-files-for-restraining-order-and-divorce-from-terri-horman/comment-page-5/

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« Reply #99 on: June 30, 2018, 07:22:13 PM »

(Continued)

THE DISCONNECT

Contrary to Blink's position (see above) that MSCO and the DA have never requested an interview with Terri since June 2010 ... the following would imply otherwise.

It makes sense that Blink's speculation at the end of June 2010 that Terri's attorney may have instructed his client to "ZIP IT" reflects the truth


MCSO AND FBI STILL WAITING

Kaine Horman - January 20, 2016


"We have a HOST of MCSO and FBI investigators STILL standing by with interviews and polygraphs when someone actually wants to cooperate. FEEL FREE TO STOP BY THEY ARE WAITING!! STILL!!"
http://www.kptv.com/story/31013062/kaine-horman-investigators-still-waiting-to-talk-to-kyrons-stepmom


IF YOU ARE INNOCENT

Desiree Young - January 21, 2016


“My first reaction is if you’re innocent and you want to fix this, then call the Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office and sit down and interview.  I think she needs to sit down with law enforcement as many times as it takes to clear herself.”
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/kyron-horman/kyron-hormans-mom-to-terri-lets-clear-you/20099859


MR. HOUZE REQUESTS

Capt. Steve Alexander - MCSO Spokesperson - September 21, 2016


Alexander provided a statement from the offices of the county district attorney and sheriff, as well. It reads, in full:

"Kyron Horman's parents and members of the public should know that the investigation into Kyron's disappearance is active, ongoing and includes a recent search effort.  Ms. Horman has an open invitation to speak with MCSO.
    
"The Multnomah County District Attorney's was in contact with defense attorney Stephen Houze earlier this week and was advised that he continues to represent Terri Horman. Mr. Houze requests no contact with Ms. Horman by law enforcement absent his authorization and her consent."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/09/authorities_conduct_investigat.html

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