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« Reply #100 on: July 02, 2018, 12:39:09 PM »

O/T

BREAKING!!

Missing youth soccer team found alive in Thai cave
July 2, 2018
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/thailand-cave-rescue/index.html

Miracle in Thailand as rescuers find 12 boys and their soccer coach alive in cave
Jul 2, 2018
https://abcnews.go.com/International/miracle-thailand-rescuers-find-12-boys-soccer-coach/story?id=56313913
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« Reply #101 on: July 03, 2018, 09:14:24 PM »

WE'VE BEEN TALKING PRETTY HEAVILY WITH INVESTIGATORS


Kaine Horman - June 2, 2018
"We believe he's still out there.  We've been talking pretty heavily with investigators. They're still heavily involved... we still believe he's out there .... "

http://www.koin.com/news/missing-persons/monday-marks-8-years-since-kyron-horman-disappeared/1215202541



SOMETHING BIG IS COMING I PROMISE YOU


Desiree Young - June 4, 2018
Stay tuned something big is coming I promise you. Terri isn’t going to get away with staying silent about where Kyron is, and not have to answer for it.

https://www.facebook.com/desiree.davidsonyoung/posts/1819645388057117




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« Reply #102 on: July 08, 2018, 03:07:18 PM »

THINK ABOUT IT


THE EMAILS

Only someone void of a conscience could harbour "a severe hatred"  towards a little boy she had raised since a baby ... "a severe hatred" shared in emails with friends.

Kaine, Desiree and Tony were privy to Terri's emails during ongoing briefings with investigators?


A SEVERE HATRED

Desiree Young - November 15, 2010

EXCERPT


On Friday LE showed Desiree emails Terri had sent to friends describing her marriage to Kaine and her feelings about Kyron.

Desiree: It's very clear from Terri's horrible words that she had a severe hatred for Kyron, and that a lot... she blamed a lot of the marital problems between Kaine and herself on Kyron, that it was a huge point of contention in their marriage, and she had expressed in great detail her hatred for Kyron.

I now believe without a shadow of a doubt that not only is she capable of hurting Kyron, that it's clear that she could have hurt him in the worst possible way.
http://www.today.com/id/26184891/vp/40192247#40192247


CONFIDENTIAL TO THE INVESTIGATION

Kaine Horman - November 19, 2010

EXCERPT


Reporter: Have you seen the emails that are being talked about where Terri allegedly talks about hurting Kyron?

Kaine: Yeah, well, I, I've seen them. Yes.

Reporter: What is in those emails?

Kaine: I'm not gonna talk about it. It's information that's supposed to be confidential to the investigation, and...

Reporter: Did they only solidify your belief that Terri's responsible?

Kaine: Everything that we see moving forward just adds to the pile.
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/missing-kyrons-dad-points-finger-stepmom-12189940?tab=9482930&section=1206852&playlist=11128091&page=1


CLEARLY WANTED HIM OUT OF HER LIFE

Desiree - February 22, 2011


(Video: 4:00)  "Right before the holidays Tony and I received a briefing from LE where they gave us all the evidence on the case.  We're confident from that briefing that we have the right person. She put everything in writing.  She had a severe hatred for Kyron and she made no mystery to how she felt.  She very clearly wanted him out of her life."
http://www.kpic.com/news/116678914.html?t=a&video=pop

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« Reply #103 on: July 09, 2018, 10:53:04 AM »

DEDE SPICHER - THE PROSECUTOR'S STAR WITNESS?

Could it be that since communication with Terri ceased July 2010 ... Dede has been willing to submit to a polygraph ... has been willing to testify before a Grand Jury regarding the happenings encompassing the secreting of Kyron?  However ... could it be that in exchange for submitting to a polygraph ... in exchange for testifying before a Grand Jury ... Dede's attorney was demanding immunity from prosecution for his client?

Could it be that in 2013 ... the prosecutor caved and immunity from prosecution for Dede was afforded?  The outcome?  Dede submitted to a polygraph and passed.  She then testified before the Grand Jury.  She did not plead the Fifth.

Could it be that Dede will be the prosecutor's star witness when Terri is eventually indicted for her participation in the secreting of Kyron on the morning of June 4, 2010?

When the MFH allegations, the theft of a firearm allegation as well as the threat encompassing the DV allegation against Terri are considered ... could it be that an immunity deal with prosecutors implies that Dede is at risk?

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1.  The 2010 Grand Jury

Attorney: Spicher shared Terri Horman emails, texts with cops
July 26, 2010

EXCERPT


Spicher's attorney told NBC Dateline that he would be "surprised" if Terri was not arrested in the case.

Grand jury proceedings are not open to the public or the media. However, SPICER'S ATTORNEY DID CONFIRM THAT HIS CLIENT WAS SUBPOENAED TO TESTIFY BUT DID NOT GIVE ANY TESTIMONY UNDER OATH MONDAY.  HE SAID SHE COULD BE CALLED BACK TO TESTIFY IN THE FUTURE. ....

Stavley also told NBC Dateline Monday that Spicher had been, and planned to keep, cooperating with investigators. He said that she had already shared text messages and emails sent to and from Terri with detectives.

"I WOULD BE, FRANKLY, SURPRISED IF TERRI HORMAN DID NOT EVENTUALLY FACE CHARGES IN THIS CASE," STAVLEY SAID.  "I'D BE SURPRISED IF THE INDICTMENT DIDN'T COME DOWN." ....
http://www.kgw.com/home/DeDe-Spicher-testifies-before-grand-jury-99252004-kyron-horman-missing-portland.html


Friend of missing boy's stepmom appears before grand jury
July 26, 2010

EXCERPT


Stavley disputed those comments Monday, saying Spicher has been "extremely cooperative" with police as they executed search warrants on her home and car. He said she also met with the lead investigator in the case last week for more than three hours.

HE ADDED THAT SPICHER IS NOT SPEAKING TO TERRI HORMAN. ....
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/26/oregon.missing.boy/


2.  The 2012 Deposition

Terri Horman's friend DeDe Spicher declines to answer any questions about Terri Horman in deposition
November 09, 2012

EXCERPT


Rosenthal noted in the motion that the Fifth Amendment provides that "no person...shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself..."

"The privilege is personal; it cannot be used to protect another person...Otherwise, the privilege could be used as a shield to protect a witness' friends, and to deny a civil litigant probative evidence."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2012/10/terri_hormans_friend_dede_spic.html


The Deposition

EXCERPTS


Did you see Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Did you talk to Terri Horman at any time on June 4, 2010?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever been to Skyline Elementary School?
Dede: Going to assert my Fifth Amendment right.

Have you ever purchased a disposable phone?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know where Kyron Horman is?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

Do you know whether Kyron Horman is alive?
Dede: I'm asserting my Fifth Amendment right.

H/T - Criminal Mindz

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/DeDe-watermarked-1.pdf


3.  The 2013 Grand Jury

Kyron Horman's mom drops civil suit, criminal investigation continues
July 30, 2013

EXCERPT


A key witness was now cooperating with investigators, according to Young's attorney Elden Rosenthal.

DEDE SPICHER TESTIFIED BEFORE THE GRAND JURY FOR THE CRIMINAL CASE WITHIN THE PAST TWO WEEKS, ACCORDING TO ROSENTHAL.  Spicher was friends with Terri and her whereabouts were in question the day Kyron vanished.  SHE HAD PREVIOUSLY DECLINED TO SPEAK WITH INVESTIGATORS OR TESTIFY. ....
http://www.kgw.com/news/Kyron-Horman-civil-suit--217621031.html


Lawsuit dropped, criminal investigation continues in Kyron Horman case
Jul 30, 2013

EXCERPT


As part of Young's lawsuit, one of Terri Horman's friends, DeDe Spicher, was called in for a deposition in 2012, and she refused to answer 142 questions regarding the case. She cited her Fifth Amendment right. ....

Young said she was hopeful Spicher provided good information to the grand jury, but did not speculate on what information that could be. Spicher appeared before the grand jury at least one other time, in July 2010.

"We don't know. But I think everything's a possibility," she said. "The fact that she hadn't talked up to now. We just don't know." ....
http://www.kptv.com/story/22967375/mom-of-kyron-horman-gives-up-on-civil-case


Mother of Kyron Horman dropping civil suit
July 30, 2013

EXCERPT


Meanwhile, there was a huge breakthrough in the criminal investigation. Horman's good friend, DEDE SPICHER -- WHO PREVIOUSLY REFUSED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS IN COURT -- TESTIFIED BEFORE AN INVESTIGATIVE GRAND JURY IN THE PAST WEEK OR TWO. ....
http://www.katu.com/news/local/Mother-of-Kyron-Horman-dropping-civil-suit-217632621.html


Desiree Young drops suit against Terri Horman
July 30, 2013

EXCERPT


Rosenthal did reveal that Terri Horman's friend, DeDe Spicher, testified this month before a grand jury.  In October of 2012, Spicher invoked her Fifth Amendment rights during a sworn deposition, refusing to answer any questions regarding Horman. However, according to Rosenthal, she changed her mind.

“WE RECENTLY LEARNED THAT DEDE SPICHER DID APPEAR IN FRONT OF THE GRAND JURY A WEEK OR TWO AGO; WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE SAID," ROSENTHAL STATED.
http://koin.com/2013/07/30/desiree-young-drops-suit-against-terri-horman/


THE SEALED IMMUNITY DEAL

ACCORDING TO BLINK

Blink On Crime Kyron Horman Investigation EXCLUSIVE: Terri Horman Friend DeDe Spicher Breaks Her Silence After Passing Polygraph- Requests DA Clear Her Publicly
Posted by Christina Stoy | Wednesday 4 September 2013 12:28 pm

EXCERPT


It was only a few weeks ago, during a meeting with MCSO detectives Mark Herron and Keith Krafve , INVESTIGATORS UNOFFICIALLY CLEARED DEDE SPICHER OF ANY INVOLVEMENT IN KYRON'S DISAPPEARANCE OR OF HAVING ANY KNOWLEDGE OF ANYONE ELSES.  SHE IS HOPEFUL THAT MULTONOMAH COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY ROD UNDERHILL WILL ISSUE A PUBLIC STATEMENT FROM HIS OFFICE CLEARING HER OFFICIALLY. ....

The Capone tactic for a woman that took the job with the understanding that it was not a paid endeavor and when Ms. Hockensmith told Spicher she wanted to compensate her she declined.  Hockensmith insisted.

On this basis, DEDE WAS ADVISED TO AND AGREED TO AN IMMUNITY DEAL. The terms of which are under seal and Spicher nixed discussing citing a verbal agreement she made until such time as it is unsealed.

A source inside the investigation who does not wish to be identified as they are not authorized to speak publicly on the case- has confirmed that Spicher’s agreement includes provisions that she continue to cooperate with law enforcement as needed, be available to testify in any proceedings, and to take a polygraph.
http://blinkoncrime.com/2013/09/04/blink-on-crime-kyron-horman-investigation-exclusive-terri-horman-friend-dede-spicher-breaks-her-silence-after-passing-polygraph-requests-da-clear-her-publicly/


DeDe Spicher breaks silence in interview with crime blog
Sep 04, 2013

EXCERPT


The Multnomah County Sheriff's Office issued a "no comment" when FOX 12 inquired about the blog's report that Spicher had been "unofficially" cleared.

The district attorney's office also issued a "no comment."
http://www.kptv.com/story/23343156/dede-spicher-breaks-silence-with-interview-on-crime-blog


Food for Thought

Logic dictates that one must be guilty of wrongdoing in the first place to be afforded immunity from prosecution in exchange for the truth and logic also dictates that one must be guilty of wrongdoing if he/she were to plead the fifth in a 2012 deposition 142 times.


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« Reply #104 on: July 10, 2018, 12:53:12 PM »

ACCORDING TO DEDE'S FORMER BOYFRIEND

THE LETTER - AUGUST 18, 2010


EXCERPT

"I suspect that sometime after we broke-up on August 1st, 2009, DeDe reconnected with Terri and Terri found DeDe to be a good listener, provided sound feedback and possibly provided each other with emotional respite. This cultivated to gaining DeDe’s trust and support."

"Terri may have told DeDe some story that Kyron was in danger and that Kaine was a bad dad and husband and that she needed to find a safe place for Kyron for a few days while she was dealing with Kaine in some way that would produce a long term solution."

"If DeDe is indeed involved, she probably thought she was helping protect Kyron and that she was somehow doing an act of child advocacy as well as helping a friend get out of a bad and unsafe situation."

"I believe in my heart that Kyron is still alive and stashed at a safe house. The DeDe that I knew very well for 10 months would have no part of harm to a child or getting rid of abody, no way."

"I am a child advocate who has more volunteer time helping endangered and displaced Multnomah county children than any other man out there. I care more than anyone can realize and pray hard for Kyron’s safe return."

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/dede_spichers_former_boyfriend.html


REALITY CHATTER - INTERNET POSTINGS - AUGUST 2010

"I have learned that she is waiting for the DA to offer her immunity to testify about what she knows and her involvement."

"I am convinced that Kyron is at a safe house somewhere far away.

"I am not giving anyone false hope by saying this, Kyron is alive and we will remember the day he is united with his family like the people of the sixties remember the day of the Kennedy assassination. I pray everyday without interruption for God to guide and direct the investigators to Kyron's location."

"I possess no inside information from investigators, rather I am reading the cards on the table from what I know of DeDe and the investigation and what has been reported in the media and internet. It takes a special kind of evil to kill an innocent child and I feel that at least DeDe would never do such a thing, rather cooperate with a good friend if the story she was told was plausable enough."

"DeDe presented to be a trusting person and just didnt hang out with "the wrong crowd" so to speak."

"How would a kidnapping scenario play out??? They would have a network of people taking Kyron out of state for unknown reasons, but a well thought out explanation for Kyron and the others involved."

"It was depriving Kane of his precious son that was the motivation here, not killing Kyron."

"I suspect that everyone involved knows know that they are in such huge trouble, facing multiple felonies and decades in prison, they are trying to save their tails and allowing LE to prove that they are involved."

http://www.realitychatter.com/t2666-jw-name-removed-initials-only-please

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« Reply #105 on: July 10, 2018, 03:23:45 PM »


YEAH ... SHE IS ONE OF THEM

Desiree Young - June 4, 2015

Video 2:30:  "Absolutely without a doubt, with all my heart I know that she (Terri) did it. I think she was working with one or two possible people but absolutely she did it. We know at least Dede Spicher. Yeah ... she is one of them."

http://www.kptv.com/story/29245636/family-friends-hold-vigil-for-kyron-horman-5-years-after-disappearance
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« Reply #106 on: July 11, 2018, 01:26:33 PM »

KYRON LIVES!!

Could it be that a 2013 immunity plea deal with Dede revealed all the happenings on the morning of June 4, 2010 leading up to moment when Kyron was passed to an unknown child advocate at a predetermined Sauvie Island location?  In other words ... neither Dede nor Terri are privy to the whereabouts of Kyron.


Desiree Young - June 29, 2010

"I believe that he s stashed I believe it's the investigation that's going to lead us to him."
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11755380/


Dede's Former Child Advocate Boyfriend - August 2010

"I have learned that she is waiting for the DA to offer her immunity to testify about what she knows and her involvement."
http://www.realitychatter.com/t2666-jw-name-removed-initials-only-please


Dede's Former Child Advocate Boyfriend - August 19, 2010

"I believe in my heart that Kyron is still alive and stashed at a safe house. The DeDe that I knew very well for 10 months would have no part of harm to a child or getting rid of a body, no way."
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/08/dede_spichers_former_boyfriend.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/jasonw.pdf


Kaine Horman - June 4, 2015

"He’s potentially either in the area with someone or even outside our area with someone else.  I’d almost call it a belief.  Hope to me is good, but it’s also kind of uncertain.”
http://koin.com/2015/06/04/kaine-horman-on-kyron-terri-life-after-5-years/


Desiree Young - June 4, 2016

EXCERPT

What is it like now that Kyron has been missing for 6 years?

Each year I reflect on where we are and how I can change it, I try to think of at least one more thing I can do. I can tell you of all of the things that we have done to bring Kyron home, but you have all been here with us to see it. And still, we don’t have Kyron home. Each day I still expect to get that phone call that I am waiting for, you know the one, “Desiree, this is the police, we have found Kyron!” I want that phone call more than anything, I want to see the police standing on my doorstep waiting to tell me they’ve found him. I have dreamt of the day I get to hold onto Kyron again, and hug him until he says I can’t breathe Momma. I have gone over that moment and planned it out in every detail, in my head. I have dreamt of it so many times that it feels real, until I realize it’s a dream and I have just woken up.

UPDATE 122
https://www.gofundme.com/kyronhorman


Kaine Horman - June 2, 2018

"We believe he's still out there.  We've been talking pretty heavily with investigators. They're still heavily involved... we still believe he's out there .... "
http://www.koin.com/news/missing-persons/monday-marks-8-years-since-kyron-horman-disappeared/1215202541

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« Reply #107 on: July 11, 2018, 02:34:54 PM »

According to Desiree "something big is coming"?  This wannabe detective suspects that Kyron's mother has learned in briefings with investigators that Terri's attorney is negotiating a plea deal with the prosecutor?  The whereabouts of Kyron may yet to be determined but could it be that his parents will be afforded a measure of closure nevertheless?


JUST A MATTER OF KYRON BEING FOUND FIRST

Desiree Young - July 11, 2014

"DA's Office will prosecute for all the Murder for Hire plots (Oh yeah, there are several) as well as Kyron's kidnapping and subsequent charges for that, when we find Kyron. They want to hit her with both barrels, so it sticks, and she can't get off easy. Terri is going down and so are the people who have helped her along the way.  Just a matter of Kyron being found first. The one and only person in the way of that is Terri."

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Kyron-Horman-Case-Turning-of-The-Tide/1428477140699516


SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO GET HURT

Desiree Young - December 6, 2016

"Come on everyone ... ask Kyron's law enforcement team for an arrest.  The DA's office needs to charge her for all the murder for hire plots, for Kyron, and for the stolen gun. Why does she get away with this?  Someone else is going to get hurt before we put her in prison."

https://www.facebook.com/161645780592018/photos/pb.161645780592018.-2207520000.1481041254./1177433929013193/?type=3&theater



SOMETHING BIG IS COMING I PROMISE YOU

Desiree Young - June 4, 2018

Stay tuned something big is coming I promise you. Terri isn’t going to get away with staying silent about where Kyron is, and not have to answer for it
.

https://www.facebook.com/desiree.davidsonyoung/posts/1819645388057117



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« Reply #109 on: July 15, 2018, 10:58:04 AM »

THE CALM BEFORE A STORM?

I sincerely hope so.  Desiree afforded a glimpse into a storm that is just on the horizon. When the ongoing investigative briefings with Kyron's parents are considered ... I believe with all my heart that the glimpse has an official foundation.

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SOMETHING BIG IS COMING I PROMISE YOU

Desiree Young - June 4, 2018

Stay tuned something big is coming I promise you. Terri isn’t going to get away with staying silent about where Kyron is, and not have to answer for it
.

https://www.facebook.com/desiree.davidsonyoung/posts/1819645388057117


"WE'VE" BEEN TALKING PRETTY HEAVILY WITH INVESTIGATORS

Kaine Horman - June 2, 2018

"We believe he's still out there.  We've been talking pretty heavily with investigators. They're still heavily involved... we still believe he's out there .... "

http://www.koin.com/news/missing-persons/monday-marks-8-years-since-kyron-horman-disappeared/1215202541
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« Reply #110 on: July 16, 2018, 12:19:41 PM »

FAMILY ABUSE PREVENTION ACT (FAPA) RESTRAINING ORDER

EASILY?

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

23.  .... July 13, 2018 at 10:57 pm

EXCERPT


It continues to irk me how easily that FAPA order was granted and renewed, effectively terminating Kiara’s right to be with her Mother. Once again, it is an element to this case I had not seen before nor have I seen again.  B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/#comments

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Easily?  Logic dictates that a FAPA Restraining Order would require investigative justification ... investigative justification that would require judicial approval.

Kyron's father stated respectively in July 2010 and October 2010 that both investigators and circuit court judges determined that probable cause existed that Terri was involved in the disappearance of Kiara's brother and probable cause existed that Terri was involved in a MFH plot against their father.  I cannot comprehend ANY parent in Kaine's position not seeking a FADA restraining order.

THE POLICE

Kaine Horman - July 8, 2010


"I believe the respondent is involved in the disappearance of my son Kyron who has been missing since June 4, 2010. I also recently learned that respondent attempted to hire someone to murder me. The police have provided me with probably cause to believe the above two statements are true."
http://www.kptv.com/news/24186798/detail.html

http://www.kptv.com/download/2010/0708/24186795.pdf


CIRCUIT COURT JUDGES

Kaine Horman - Affidavit - October 25, 2010


19. "... Law enforcement officials have informed me that more than one circuit court judge has determined probable cause exists to implicate Respondent in Kyron's disappearance and in the murder for hire plot.   Respondent and her lawyers are also aware of this. ..."
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/petition.PDF

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/10/kaine_horman_calls_his_estrang.html


THE FAPA STATUTE

Custody and Parenting Time (Visitation) with Children in Dissolution of Marriage Proceedings

EXCERPT


"There is a presumption (which can be rebutted) that it is not in the best interest and welfare of a child to award custody of a child to a parent who has committed abuse against the other parent or child (as defined in the FAPA Restraining Order statutes)."
https://www.osbar.org/public/legalinfo/1133_ChildCustody.htm
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« Reply #111 on: July 16, 2018, 02:57:03 PM »

CUSTODY OF KIARA

It has been eight years since Kaine served the June 2010 FAPA restraining order which has denied Terri any contact with Kiara and ... in that same time period Terri's attorneys have failed to FOLLOW THROUGH with any legal challenge to the status quo.  If Terri is innocent of all wrongdoing encompassing the disappearance of Kyron ... why is the status quo still in effect?  Why is she not moving Heaven and Earth in a mission to obtain custody/visitation of her daughter?

Terri's 2010 and 2013 custody motions were withdrawn when she was faced with depositions. Her attorney claimed the Fifth Amendment ... his client's right not to incriminate herself.

The 2014 Custody Agreement?  Terri has yet complied with reunification requirements. Why?  Consequently ... she has yet to have any contact with her daughter.

Also ... think about it ... there has never been any legal motion filed by Terri's attorney that challenges the well-being of Kiara under her father's care.

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2010

The Disconnect

Kyron Horman Missing: Kaine And Terri Horman Face Off In Family Court
Posted by Christina Stoy | Thursday 7 October 2010 11:24 pm


Following this afternoon’s legal melee, blinkoncrime.com Editor In Chief asked prominent Washington State Family Law Attorney, Lea Conner, to weigh in:

EXCERPT

There’s a disconnect between Mr. Bunch’s argument that Ms. Horman cannot defend herself because she would incriminate herself in the disappearance of her stepson, and his statement that “If Mr. Horman is really interested in what‘s best for the child, then Mr. Horman wouldn’t object to any visitation by this child’s mother.”

The apparent logic is that Ms. Horman admits that if she speaks, she will incriminate herself in some as-yet-to-be-named crime related to Kyron’s disappearance, yet Mr. Horman is now supposed to trust her to care for his other child, because that’s so obviously in their daughter’s best interest.

http://blinkoncrime.com/2010/10/07/kyron-horman-missing-kaine-and-terri-horman-face-off-in-family-court/


Parenting Time Request Motion Dropped

Terri Moulton Horman drops motion seeking parenting time with Kiara
November 03, 2010

EXCERPT


Terri Moulton Horman's attorneys have withdrawn their motion seeking parenting time for their client with her daughter after her estranged husband's lawyer informed them that they would face extensive discovery, "multiple depositions" and subpoenas for their client's medical records. ....

Bunch has argued earlier that a parallel civil divorce case, while the criminal investigation proceeds into Kyron Horman's disappearance, would jeopardize Terri Horman's Fifth Amendment rights not to incriminate herself. ....
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/11/terri_moulton_horman_withdraws.


2013

Motion for Visitation Rights


Hearing examines details of Horman divorce case
Friday, September 13, 2013

EXCERPT


Also under review Friday was a motion by Terri to have visitation rights with her daughter. In June, a judge renewed a restraining order original filed by Kaine in June 2010 against his estranged wife that does not allow her contact with him or their now 4-year-old daughter Kiara. On July 8, the same day that Terri subpoenaed O’Donnell, Terri also filed a motion contesting the restraining order.

In its response, on July 13 Kaine’s attorney Peter Engel issued a motion for protective order. In it he wrote:

“Ms. Horman has been in seclusion for three years. She refuses to cooperate with law enforcement.  She intends to exercise her privilege against self-incrimination. She has not contested the FAPA Order since it was originally issued in June of 2010. She has chosen to forego a relationship with the parties’ daughter Kiara, now four years old. Yet, she now expects to conduct one-sided discovery in a single day of depositions, and have a hearing, all while the case is stayed.” ....
http://www.koin.com/2013/09/13/hearing-over-horman-divorce-proceedings/


Withdrawal of Visitation Request

Terri Horman withdraws visitation request for daughter
October 30, 2013

EXCERPT


An attorney for Terri Moulton Horman has filed a motion to withdraw her request for visitation of her young daughter.Judge Meisenheimer s office confirms the motion was filed on Tuesday. ....

In Monday's filing, Terri's attorney states the withdrawl of the motion for visitation is in no way an agreement to maintain the status quo regarding the estranged couple's daughter, and that Terri does not, and will not, give up her right to seek legal custody of their daughter. ....

According to Terri's attorney, the motion to withdraw was being filed to avoid litigation that is destructive to the parties and their daughter, despite very deep and great reluctance, and with grave concern about their daughter's short-term development and long-term well-being. ....

Under a restraining order filed by Kaine Horman, Terri Moulton-Horman has been denied visitation with their daughter. The estranged couple has filed a series of inflammatory motions in the ensuing battle over whether to permit Terri to have some kind of visitation. ....
http://legacy.kgw.com/story/news/2014/07/20/11781062/


2014

Terri Evokes the Fifth Amendment


BRETT E. ENGEL - LEGAL BRIEFING - FEBRUARY 10, 2014


Court Documents for 2-14-14

Page 3


" ... There is a trial scheduled for June 11, 2014 on the issue of what parenting schedule is in the best interests of Kiara Horman, age 5.  Father will ask the court to deny parenting time between Kiara and her Mother because Mother presents a credible threat to the health and safety of Kiara.  Father will offer testimony from Rodolfo Sanchez that (a) Mother solicited Sanchez's help to kill Father several months before the disappearance of Father's non joint child Kyron and (b) Mother sought to kill Father so she would not lose custody of joint child Kiara. ...."  

Page 8-9

" ...Mother would have this court believe that she has no options, and having Sanchez testify regarding the "meeting" is the only way she can show parenting time with Kiara is appropriate. Nothing could be further from the truth. There were apparently two people present at the "meeting". Mother and Mr. Sanchez. Sanchez is precluded from testifying about the meeting because the meeting is privileged. Mother is not prevented from testifying about the meeting and could so if she did not choose her right against self-incrimination over her right to explain what may have transpired at the meeting. Father's right should not be impacted because Mother is choosing her right to remain silent over her ability to present testimony that rebuts the Sanchez testimony.  A litigant's decision to invoke the Fifth Amendment again self-incrimination is not without adverse consequences for the litigant. ...."

Dated this 10th Day of February
Brett E. Engel
.....
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.578520868904505.1073741831.161645780592018&type=1


The Plan? Keeping My Daughter Safe and Bringing Kyron Home

Kaine Horman - February 20, 2014


"There is nothing more important to me than keeping my daughter safe and bringing him [Kyron] home.  We have work to do. A lot of it is happening outside the courtroom, so we have a lot of things that need to get done. We are continuing to work with investigators and we're continuing to drive closure to his [Kyron's] case."
http://www.kgw.com/news/Terri-Horman-fights-To-Question-Landscaper-242247221.html


A Settlement - A Reintegration Plan

Kaine Horman awarded custody of daughter; Terri Horman to have strictly-supervised visits eventually
June 4, 2014

EXCERPT


Kaine Horman has been awarded the custody of his daughter, Kiara, and ex-wife Terri Moulton Horman will have strictly supervised visits with the girl under a detailed "reintegration plan,'' according to a settlement signed Tuesday. ....

The fact that Kaine Horman has been awarded sole custody of their daughter does not prevent Terri Horman from inspecting and consulting with staff of the school Kiara attends, "to inspect and receive governmental agency and law enforcement records concerning the child,'' consult with her doctors or authorize health care for the child, or apply to be the girl's "conservator, guardian ad litem or both,'' the court records say. ....
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2014/06/kaine_horman_awarded_custody_o.html

http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf


The Status Quo is Maintained

Kaine Horman - June 4, 2014


"I believe where we are today is still keeping my daughter safe, that status quo is still maintained, so I think we are doing what we need to be doing." ....
http://www.kgw.com/news/Kaine-Horman-awarded-full-custody-of-daughter--261867341.html


2015

No Contact of Any Kind


Father of Kyron Horman: 'We need to bring him home'
June 2, 2015

EXCERPT


Kaine Horman believes Kyron's stepmother Terri is responsible for the boy's disappearance. He thinks she may not have acted alone.  "Somebody else is involved with his disappearance and we need investigators to continue to focus on other avenues that might reveal who those person or persons are," said Kaine Horman.  ... Kaine Horman says Terri has had "no contact of any kind" with their six-year old daughter after a lengthy divorce and custody battle. ....
http://www.kgw.com/story/news/2015/06/02/kyron-horman-father-kaine-horman/28385267/


2016

Plan on Hold - Logistics


Terri Horman, stepmom of missing Kyron Horman, moved to California, state records show
January 9, 2016

EXCERPT


In June 2014, a Multnomah County judge granted custody of the daughter to Kaine Horman, but approved a plan to help reunite the mother and child and allow visitation.

Terri Horman had started meeting with an assigned "parent coordinator'' as required, but the logistics and costs of having a psychological assessment done proved challenging, according to sources familiar with the case. The plan is now on hold ....
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2016/01/terri_horman_stepmom_of_missin.html

Custody Agreement
http://media.oregonlive.com/portland_impact/other/Horman-custody.pdf


Desiree and Kaine - The Same Page

KTVL CBS 10 News, Medford
January 21, 2016

 
DESIREE: (Video 3:55) I am grateful.  I am glad we have been able to keep Kiara away from her. I am glad that Kiara has a stable life ... stable as it can be considering the circumstances.
https://www.facebook.com/180780400322/videos/10156473491155323/?fref=nf


       


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SO MANY MISSED MEMORIES MY LOVE

Desiree Davidson Young

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Ky-I miss you so....I went out to Kyron’s Pad tonight and picked the first batch of plums this year, it’s so hard without you. I miss you sitting on my shoulders to pick the ones that I cannot reach, I miss your smiles as we just laugh and talk about how many you are going to eat. So many missed memories my love. I hope you heard me as I spoke to you tonight. I love you and pray for the day I get to see you again. — in Medford, Oregon.


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« Reply #113 on: July 30, 2018, 12:12:38 PM »

THE CALM BEFORE A STORM?

I sincerely hope so.  Desiree afforded a glimpse into a storm that is just on the horizon. When the ongoing investigative briefings with Kyron's parents are considered ... I believe with all my heart that the glimpse has an official foundation.

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SOMETHING BIG IS COMING I PROMISE YOU

Desiree Young - June 4, 2018

Stay tuned something big is coming I promise you. Terri isn’t going to get away with staying silent about where Kyron is, and not have to answer for it
.

https://www.facebook.com/desiree.davidsonyoung/posts/1819645388057117


"WE'VE" BEEN TALKING PRETTY HEAVILY WITH INVESTIGATORS

Kaine Horman - June 2, 2018

"We believe he's still out there.  We've been talking pretty heavily with investigators. They're still heavily involved... we still believe he's out there .... "

http://www.koin.com/news/missing-persons/monday-marks-8-years-since-kyron-horman-disappeared/1215202541


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« Reply #114 on: August 05, 2018, 04:04:17 PM »

Kyron's Car Show

Sunday August 5, 2018


**NEW LOCATION**

Golden Valley Brewery

1520 NW Bethany Blvd, Beaverton, OR 97006

10am-3pm for families & spectators


Participant Schedule

8am registration opens, free donuts & coffee

10am-12:30pm judging & voting

12:30pm voting closes

~3:00pm awards start

$20 day-of-show registration

**patches and dash plaques for the first 200

Free to Spectators

Free Spectator Parking


About the Show

Kyron's Car Show is an annual community event held the first Sunday in August.

Goal of the show: to bring everyone together for some good, old fashioned fun while continuing to promote awareness for missing children and child safety.

100% of all fees/donations and show proceeds go to the Kyron Horman Foundation. The Kyron Horman Foundation is a 100% volunteer 501c3 non-profit public charity with a mission to build awareness campaigns that help bring missing children home.

Thank you for participating!!

Kaine Horman

Foundation CEO and Founder


http://www.kyronscarshow.org/
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Kyron's Car Show - Sunday, August 5, 2018 (Continued)

Dr. Phil Show Hosts Missing Portland Child Kyron Horman’s Step Mom Terri Horman Over Two Episodes
Posted by BOC Staff | Wednesday 21 September 2016 3:18 pm

42. .... August 3, 2018 at 2:00 pm

EXCERPT


.... I hope the foundation achieves its goals but I certainly wish one of them was to progress the investigation into the disappearance of Kyron Horman over 8 years ago.
B
http://blinkoncrime.com/2016/09/21/dr-phil-show-hosts-missing-portland-child-kyron-hormans-step-mom-terri-horman-over-two-episodes/#comments


THE DISCONNECT

Kaine Horman - June 2, 2018


"We believe he's still out there.  We've been talking pretty heavily with investigators. They're still heavily involved... we still believe he's out there .... "
http://www.koin.com/news/missing-persons/monday-marks-8-years-since-kyron-horman-disappeared/1215202541


Desiree Young - June 4, 2018

Stay tuned something big is coming I promise you. Terri isn’t going to get away with staying silent about where Kyron is, and not have to answer for it.
https://www.facebook.com/desiree.davidsonyoung/posts/1819645388057117


Kaine Horman - August 5, 2018

“Still live investigation, multiple investigators. We're still getting updates pretty regularly, lots of searches are planned that I know of.”
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/kyron-horman/hundreds-gather-at-kyrons-car-show-to-support-search-for-kyron-horman/283-580788413


Kaine Horman - August 5, 2018

"We still have multiple detectives, I still get a briefing at least once a month, the sheriff's office, the FBI is still involved."
https://pamplinmedia.com/ht/117-hillsboro-tribune-news/402688-299482-annual-kyrons-car-show-keeps-missing-son-in-public-eye
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THE KYRON HORMAN FOUNDATION

Hundreds gather at Kyron's Car Show to support search for Kyron Horman
August 5, 2018

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PORTLAND, Ore. — On Sunday, hundreds of people came together for a special cause: to help families with missing children and to find Kyron Horman. He’s the little boy missing since 2010.

Kyron disappeared from Skyline Elementary. But the search for him is still going strong.

“Still live investigation, multiple investigators. We're still getting updates pretty regularly, lots of searches are planned that I know of,” said Kyron’s father, Kaine Horman.

He hasn't given up hope and neither have all the people who came together at Golden Valley Brewery in Beaverton for Kyron's Car Show. Horman said more than 300 cars showed up and many have a flier on the dash asking for information on Kyron’s whereabouts.

“Let's say they go to a show like ours every week, and maybe they do five or 10 of them. That's another 300-400 people that are going to see the flier every weekend for the entire summer. So what better way to spread awareness and help get those tips for Kyron,” Horman said.  ....

“Keep looking," Horman said. "If you see anything, email it and call it in. Just takes one tip to find him and bring him home and that's what we need."

All proceeds from the event go to the Kyron Horman Foundation. It's a nonprofit dedicated to building awareness campaigns and bringing missing kids home.

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/kyron-horman/hundreds-gather-at-kyrons-car-show-to-support-search-for-kyron-horman/283-580788413


Annual car show keeps Kyron Horman's voice, story alive
Aug 05, 2018


EXCERPT

Kaine Horman, Kyron’s dad, told FOX 12 that he will never give up hope that his son will come home and car shows were something they shared together.

“His fifth birthday was at Seaside with the car show down there, so it was kind of our first experience and every year after that it's like, ‘Dad let's go do it again, let's go do it again’ so I think it's a fitting event in his image and I can't wait till he gets back. He's going to be getting an awful lot of rides in some really cool cars when he does,” Horman said. ....

Horman said there were hundreds of cars at the show Sunday, which is indicative of the continued support to find Kyron.

He still believes his son will be coming home.

“I think just being able to see how many people are behind him, you know, looking for him and helping to get the awareness out about his case and somebody getting those tips in for us, you know, I think we would be overwhelmed,” Horman said.

Entry fees for the car show all go toward the Kyron Horman Foundation, which focuses on child and community safety and reuniting families with their missing children.

http://www.kptv.com/story/38816235/annual-car-show-keeps-kyron-hormans-voice-story-alive
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« Reply #117 on: August 13, 2018, 01:44:38 PM »

I CAN'T WAIT TILL HE GETS BACK

Kaine Horman - August 5, 2018

“His fifth birthday was at Seaside with the car show down there, so it was kind of our first experience and every year after that it's like, ‘Dad let's go do it again, let's go do it again’ so I think it's a fitting event in his image and I can't wait till he gets back. He's going to be getting an awful lot of rides in some really cool cars when he does.”

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